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http://www.aahistoricsitesva.org/items/show/57

http://truthseeker2473.blogspot.ca/2016/01/winter-2016-part-5.html

http://fusion.net/story/383581/trump-muslim-ban-travel/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fusion&utm_content=link

https://www.scribd.com/document/81314279/the-Modern-World-Volume-1-Civilizations-of-Africa

https://www.scribd.com/document/126283685/President-Barack-Obama-The-Second-Term

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I know the history and culture of my people better than you do. The progressivism of the majority of Black America--surveys continually show a social democratic inclination among at least 70%--80% of Blacks, and historical records show that progressive tendency at least as far back as Reconstruction--re flects a more intelligent understanding of social reality. Moreover, the most militant and aggressive forms of racism have always been found on the Right. (Liberals, socialists, anarchists and others don't bomb black churches, didn't lynch Blacks, and are not he ones currently involved in suppressing the black vote. But leftists have lead anti-slavery movements, labor, civil rights and other righteous causes). Also, there is no "democratic capitalist" society, only a plutocratic corporate capitalist autocracy. And more Blacks are aware of this than are whites, and hence are less likely to support their own enemies.

-Savant


Black women or men--NEITHER of whom get much acceptance outside their own ethnicity--are entitled to mate and marry whom they please. That's their right. What I will NOT accept is their demeaning of men and women of their own group while virtually worshipping virtually any non-Black man or woman who walks the earth. Negro males and females who do that are rightly to be regarded as toms, coons and buffoons. There were IR Blacks in the 1960s (though far fewer than today) who supported the Struggle and did not demean men and women of their own ethnicity. Merely having a non-Black significant other doesn't make you a traitor. Demeaning your own people does.

Instead of our next president, we need another thread: "Donald Trump: America's First Fascist Dictator.

-Savant

I do recall a book called Islam's Black Slaves which estimated the Muslim and Christians each took about 14,000,000--roughl y equal. Of course, there's something obscene about crunching numbers of human devastation. And I am not sure how estimations are done since I see different figures. Either way, both Christian and Muslim powers have some colossal crimes to answer for. And Africans were even the only ones they preyed upon.

-Savant

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My views in refuting people who want to red bait Dr. King:

Paul Robeson and Claudia Jones were Communists and heroes for black people. The FBI is known for lying and fear mongering. Hoover slandered Dr. King as a Communist when Dr. King publicly denounced Communism. The Highlander school wasn't a Communist training school. It was a school which promoted racial justice and labor rights. White segregationists slandered that school as a Communist school. Levinson left the communist party before the 1960's. I have noticed that the views of white supremacists are very similar to those who hate social justice. Hoover was a notorious violator of people's civil liberties. Also, Dr. King is not perfect and I don't agree with his imperfections, but Dr. King was right to oppose the Vietnam War, he was right to oppose racism, and he was right to fight poverty. I'm not a red baiter and I'm not in support of reactionary propaganda at all. There is nothing wrong with revolutionary change too. I heard of this red baiting stuff over 10 years ago, and I reject red baiting. On this Black History Month, I certainly honor black heroes which includes non-communists, socialists, communists, and other black people from a diversity of political views.

-By Timothy (Me)

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More often than that, the disrupters are probably police and FBI agents. SOME riots (not all or most) that broke out in Black communities during the 1960s we now know to have been provoked by agents of COINTELPR. In particular, I learned during my research on Dr. King that the riot that broke out in a March 1968 demonstration intended to be led by Dr. King was provoked by police agents who had infiltrated a militant community group called "The Invaders." One book that talks about this is Michael K. honey's GOING DOWN JERICHO ROAD: THE MEMPHIS STRIKE, MARTIN LUTHER KING'S LAST CAMPAIGN. A nice documentary depiction of this situation (though it doesn't speak of FBI infiltration) is called "At the River I Stand." In another lengthier documentary (by a Baltimore film maker whose name I forget) called CITIZEN KING, Andrew Young says that some young dudes actually admitted to him that they were PAID to provoke the riotous disruption of the demonstration in order to discredit King and obstruct the Movement. So, while some-even most--riots are spontaneous outbursts of undisciplined popular anger, others are actually instigated, and very often by police and FBI agent provocateurs.



 -Savant

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Some people live more online than in REAL LIFE. But all the OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE in the world will not change some people's negative minds. Whether it be AAM2000A or Drilling for the Nerve", Cigar Face or SadbutTrue, that are some people who are simply obssessionally attached to their delusions. And a person unfamiliar with AA life in the USA as a whole would probably get the impression that all or most Black men and women hate each other, and that Black Love is nonexistent.. Yet for about 90% of Blacks, black love is actually assume almost as a matter of course and hardly even an issue of debate. Indeed, not even all IR Blacks are motivated by hatred of other Blacks, though some clearly are. People don't REASON in Topix, they mere vent. The person who started this thread ought to know that it's simply FALSE that there are "no more BM/BW couples." About 90% of the time that's ALL there are. And when AAM2000 claims that "black love is officially dead" one wonders where she gets the official authority to declare that the love lives of the VAST MAJORITY of Black people are dead. And one other thing: Those Negro males and females who are promoting this jibberish tend to be Blacks with the LOWEST level of social and political consciousness. They're dumb as rocks. There's a notorious negro male hater of Black women called "Tommy Sotomayor"--- I call him Uncle Tom Sotos--who when he's not vilifying Black women (and Black men he calls "simps" for supporting Black women), actually PRAISES the police for shooting down our men, women and children. He's a black fascist. AAM2000 is willing to reject the Black struggle because of her attitudes toward Black men. (That fascist pig cops kills sisters and children is obviously aside from the point) Notice that you don't find these attitudes among Black men and women who are committed to the liberation of their people. It's not that they aren't aware issues between Black men and women. But they don't see each other as the enemy. They realize that these and many other issues outgrowth of systemic oppression; that oppression breeds dysfunction, and that Struggle and solidarity are the only sources of any possible solution. And the more politically and socially evolved members of our community actually LOVE our people, love our people with all our strengths and weaknesses, with all our human beauty and ugliness. It involves a love and understanding that surpasses the limited comprehension of people like "Drilling, " SBT, AAM2000 and other shallow personalities.

-Savant

Here's the killer. The only reason why blacks, whites, Latins or anyone else needs welfare is because CAPITALISM isn't working--except in the interest of the rich. But instead of getting mad at the capitalists, at th 1%, some people prefer to be angry with Blacks, Mexicans, immigrants in general, women, gays or whomever---anyone except the ruling class! The class whose irrational and repressive system makes welfare necessary. I know people on contractual employment who voted for Il Duce Don Trump (or didn't vote) who have health care coverage ONLY because of Obamacare. But they voted for a man who intends to take away their coverage. Folk need to lay off the Kool-Aid, man. Even at the university level, many of my contractually employed colleague--unlike "regular faculty"--wou ld have no health coverage without Obama care. (However, I don't know of contractual faculty who voted for Obama, probably because they're better informed). Hey, I'm a TENURED faculty person, and at least for some time needn't worry about my health care or job. But most people are not so fortunate. The less fortunate who voted for Trump (or didn't vote) really got DUPED big time.


-Savant
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Actually, that's quite RARE and more often than one suspects the work of agent provocateurs, often in the pay of police and/or FBI. And am talking about NOW, not 50 or 300 years ago. I've seen that often enough myself. And some of my studies of history indicate that violent disruptions are at likely to be the work of undercover pigs as of undisciplined elements within a demonstration. Oh, and Barros was RIGHT when he spoke of provocateurs provoking violent confrontations with police after infiltrating Black or Native American demonstrations. As for violence in general, right wing violence--includin g terrorism--is much more common than such violence from the left or even (at least in the USA) extremist Muslims. Dylan Roof was not a liberal, socialist, anarchist or Muslim. But he is much more common that the occasional Anarchist rioter or Muslim terrorist

-Savant
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/04/09/6-scientific-theories-and-facts-about-the-origin-of-europeans-that-contradicts-the-white-supremacy-narrative/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=kw&kwp_0=314667

Dan neeah18 hours ago (edited)
Your Logic is lacking a bit.
At the time of X, The Democratic Party was more of a Racist Old Confederacy sympathizing Based party.X died in 65, just as the Voteing Rights Act was passed 1965.(((AFTER))) this, the "StatesRights" Dems became todays GOP.and the Norths repubs became todays Democrats.
Let me put it like this .......
If Dylan Roof would have  Voted in this election ,he would  have voted for trump. and if  he was alive during the 60s hed be calling for the head of X and King.
+ If king was alive he wouldnt be flying the Confederate flag again like a good number of trump supporters

i left out its not enuff to read we have to relate the past  w/whats happening in the present.
but Wow, u are on point .
 Trump is preying on the stupid/ppl who like to be entertained.That mfer went to Gettysburg and said ...."People may not know this but the republican party is the party of Lincoln".Now lincoln really wasnt perfect.But the false narrative trump is painting,"the poorly educated" will fall 4 it.Lincolns party didnt fly the Southern Flag,Trumps "StatesRights" base is.
i never heard of that book,im seeing some stuff by Greg Palast about Chris Kobach on trumps transition.Hes the creator of a Crosscheck Vote purge problem where they throw people off the ballot w/o the voter even knowing.And u r right this came after the gop lead supreme court tore apart the VRA.
+Did u hear the comment from trump where he actually((( Thanked Black people for Not Voteing)))?
Trumps people even set up fake black accounts after  facebook cracked down on fake sites.

http://www.topix.com/member/profile/savant

http://educationpost.org/ed-reformers-heres-the-one-important-voice-youre-ignoring/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Betcon&utm_content=FBBetconEdReformersHeresOneImportantVoiceLd

Savant on Politics in 2016

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/322500023295735161/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannie_Helen_Burroughs

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/364932376034531448/

Anti Trump Riots Spread.
Trump clearly is a racist and has SHOWN this by racist demonizing of racial minorities. And that'sot his only flaw. Also, it is a myth that people were commonly regarded as racist for disagreeing with Obama. It depended on whether opposition to Obama was based on racism. A lot of ANTI-RACIST people had sharp differences with Barack Obama. On the other hand, Trump is appointing racists to posts in is cabinet. And his racist campaign has energized racists all over America. There have been a rash of racist incidents against Latinos, Blacks and Muslims (who are often racialized even though Islam is a religion). Your analogy doesn't work. Or is at least isn't plausible to honest and rational people in touch with the real world.  (Thursday | post #418)


Anti Trump Riots Spread.
Only problem is that my statements are factually correct. White supremacists and Nazis are not galvanizing behind Trump for no reason. And his appointment of white supremacist inclined Bannon is no coincidence. The facts are as I stated them. Of course, you operate by a different "logic": "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts". Typical right wing obtuseness.  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #364)

Anti Trump Riots Spread.
Obama was not a Fascist and racist hatemonger. Trump is, and has a long record of racist bigotry and misogynist disdain for women. Actually, Trump has dumb white people by the nose. He's playing your dumb a_______ and you're too retarded to know it. You voted for a billionaire fascist who will enslave you, though you are mentally at least half enslaved already And by the way, there are PROTESTS all over the country, not riots all over the country. If Trump tries to shove his white supremacist and fascist agenda down our throats there may very well be riots, or perhaps IRA style guerilla warfare.  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #363)






Anti Trump Riots Spread.
Actually, it's people on the right who have lost their minds. The xenophobia, racism and misogyny spewed by Trump and his supporters is insanity. And all the white supremacist and alt-rights kooks are not exactly exemplars of sanity and reason.  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #360)



Anti Trump Riots Spread.
What makes you think they're Clinton advocates? Some were for Bernie Sanders and even Jill Stein. I know for a fact that some protestors I saw here in Baltimore I met at Jill Stein events  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #359)



Anti Trump Riots Spread.
And the  fits of the Tea Party during the Obama administration? Did those right wingers have jobs? Oh, and some of them even showed up in demonstrations with guns. Regardless of what you believe, the anti-Trump protests were mainly peaceful even though things got out of hand in Oregon. Now is the time to oppose Trumpist fascism and racism, and that's what they're doing.  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #358)



Is America now the new Fourth Reich?
If Il Duce Don Trump isn't a Fascist already, he's leading in that direction. As an AA man I do find this alarming, and must prepare for self-defense  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #36)


Anti Trump Riots Spread.
There are mass protests in the country, mostly peace, against fascist President-elect Il Duce Don Trump and what stands for. These are not "anti-Trump riots" as the title of this thread dishonestly says.  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #353)



Trump does seem to be worse than GW. Bush seem to me to be simpleminded, not mean spirited. An incompetent conservative. Trump strikes me as being mean spirited and fascistic.  (Tuesday Nov 15 | post #63)


Are white liberals truly friends of black people?
Your comment suggest you've not studied the women's movement very well if this is your interpretation. The women's movement like every other liberation movement sprung up from within the aggrieved community.  (Monday Nov 14 | post #562)




It turns out that 90% of Blacks voted for Hillary, even if they had to hold their noses to oppose that fascist buffoon Il Duce Don Trump. (Hillary the pits, but most inferred that Trump's even worse). About two thirds of Latinos voted for Hillary. And Clinton actually won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college. Mainly voters had two bad choices, and they took again what they thought to be the lesser evil  (Monday Nov 14 | post #57)



Who Will They Blame When Clinton Wins?
Keep in mind the election isn't over yet  (Tuesday Nov 8 | post #28)



Are white liberals truly friends of black people?
A What Jan overlooks is that Malcolm X also regarded conservatives and right wingers as the enemy. He even pondered forming a Black guerilla unit to deal with the extreme right who were lynching us, and bombing our homes and churches. When asked whether ANY white man would be allowed in his Organization of Afro-American Unity, he suggested John Brown if any like him are around. But John Brown was a REVOLUTIONARY. Not a liberal or conservative. REVOLUTIONARY. If you want to tell a story be sure to tell it fully.  (Tuesday Nov 1 | post #266)



49er QB Colin Kaepernick is WAKING UP
What makes you a fool as well as a bigot is that you are not even aware of the numerous critiques o those stats which you think to be inscrutable facts. But you never were much good at thinking, were you? Strange that when you racists look up these "facts" and stats you seem never to notice critiques which indicate that the data is highly questionable. You mainly cherry pick facts or alleged facts which reinforce your racist prejudices. Better "political correctness" than political stupidity  (Tuesday Nov 1 | post #387)

Denver and the Civil Rights Movement

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/colin-kaepernick-black-panther-youth-camp_us_5818b31ee4b0390e69d2935f?slideshow=true#gallery/55a5ae2be4b04740a3de5952/0

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Savant's New Words

A What Jan overlooks is that Malcolm X also regarded conservatives and right wingers as the enemy. He even pondered forming a Black guerilla unit to deal with the extreme right who were lynching us, and bombing our homes and churches. When asked whether ANY white man would be allowed in his Organization of Afro-American Unity, he suggested John Brown if any like him are around. But John Brown was a REVOLUTIONARY. Not a liberal or conservative. REVOLUTIONARY. If you want to tell a story be sure to tell it fully.
-Savant


What makes you a fool as well as a bigot is that you are not even aware of the numerous critiques o those stats which you think to be inscrutable facts. But you never were much good at thinking, were you? Strange that when you racists look up these "facts" and stats you seem never to notice critiques which indicate that the data is highly questionable. You mainly cherry pick facts or alleged facts which reinforce your racist prejudices. Better "political correctness" than political stupidity. White women gathered with their children in their Sunday best watch black men being hanged, castrated and burned alive. A white female cop just blew a brother away recently. KKK have always had many female members. Man, what have you been smoking.
-Savant

I am studying the BLM platform in preparation for a meeting in January.
-Savant


 Most Black will vote for Clinton not because thinks she's so great, but because Il Duce Don is much worst. Clinton is a centrist opportunist, but Il Duce Don Trump is a scary Fascist buffoon and demogague
-Savant



Recently, I discovered FROM BLACK LIVES MATTER TO BLACK LIBERATION by Keeanga-Yamahtta Taylor. A very good read.
-Savant

I must look for that thread on the original Black Panther Party. As brother Marshall Eddy Conway reminds me, this month--October 15 to be exact--is the fiftieth anniversary of the founding of the Black Panther Party. I'm working with a group of young people here in Baltimore who are rediscovering the legacy of the Panthers. (If you're ever in Baltimore, Red Emma's Café/Bookstore has many books on the Panthers and other left tendencies and ideas). One of the young brothers I'm trying to work with was involved in the April 2015 uprising. I won't mention names, of course. Yeah, it isn't easy to disguise who you are even with a new name once your style of thinking and writing becomes well known. That's why it didn't take me long to figure out you were not the real Frenchman. Your styles of thinking (though both "left") and writing are simply too different. That's also why I thought it so laughably ridiculous when some people surmised that I must be Attai. Have those persons NO capacity for discernment? LOL!

-Savant

Humans are capable of being violent and also of being peaceful. By the way, I think I know who you posted this to. Michel (which is masculine, unlike MicheLLe) is not a female, nor is he French. I was wondering at first if he wasn't a French person from AA Forum whom I met once. But his posts, the shape of his logic marked by a social scientific education (Anthropology), is actually the inveterate enemy of a certain French person who occasionally posts here. Michel, is very American--of left persuasion. Are you really Polish as your avatar suggests? With regard to feminism, there are many different kinds of it. Insofar as feminism advocates for the end of patriarchy and the full emancipation of women, I find nothing objectionable about it. However, some forms of feminism has shown tendencies towards racism and elite class prejudice. Black feminists in the USA like bell hooks and Angela Y. Davis (in WOMEN: RACE AND CLASS) have themselves critiqued these tendencies.
-Savant


Natural law theory has a much older lineage than the thought of Thomas Aquinas. Natural law theory has a much older lineage than the thought of Aquinas. And modern thinkers reworked natural law ideas into a different synthesis than what Aquinas offered. Trust me on this: Aquinas would not likely defend Locke, Voltaire or myself. He wouldn't read natural law in the same way as did the men of the Enlightenment.
-Savant

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