crammasters
Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted August 31, 2010
@ nodoubt
brother, no self-respecting JEWISH man (or woman) would tolerate that behavior, they wouldn't even tolerate a jewish Dave Chappelle making a comedy skit about the Holocaust, the way the black Dave Chappelle did about black civil rights marchers being bitten by dogs.
that' was the LAST time I watched that brother's show. Couldn't believe that s___. (i'm gonna see if I can find that d____ video...and post it to make an example of how far black comedy should NOT go...)
Like Dr. Frances Welsing once said
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT RESPECT THEMSELVES WILL NOT PROTECT THEMSELVES
and when you look at the black community, at the violence, you can understand why.
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT RESPECT THEMSELVES WILL NOT PROTECT THEMSELVES...
brother, no self-respecting JEWISH man (or woman) would tolerate that behavior, they wouldn't even tolerate a jewish Dave Chappelle making a comedy skit about the Holocaust, the way the black Dave Chappelle did about black civil rights marchers being bitten by dogs.
that' was the LAST time I watched that brother's show. Couldn't believe that s___. (i'm gonna see if I can find that d____ video...and post it to make an example of how far black comedy should NOT go...)
Like Dr. Frances Welsing once said
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT RESPECT THEMSELVES WILL NOT PROTECT THEMSELVES
and when you look at the black community, at the violence, you can understand why.
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT RESPECT THEMSELVES WILL NOT PROTECT THEMSELVES...
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Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted September 07, 2010
@ sistersu...
sis, i'm only SAYING what black folk already know
deep down underneath the layer of bull S programming
we got to wake up that WISE AFRICAN SPIRIT in our DNA
we were the first people, GOD gave us something special
which is why some folks work so hard to kill that spirit
and imitate that spirit
the time is coming
our time is coming
the first shall come last
the last shall come first
sis, i'm only SAYING what black folk already know
deep down underneath the layer of bull S programming
we got to wake up that WISE AFRICAN SPIRIT in our DNA
we were the first people, GOD gave us something special
which is why some folks work so hard to kill that spirit
and imitate that spirit
the time is coming
our time is coming
the first shall come last
the last shall come first
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Were Obama REALLY committed to King's dream of social justice, and acted on it, you reactionaries would be screaming bloody murder even more than now.
After all, Dr. King called for a "radical REDISTRIBUTION of political and economic power."
Check out his 1967 address in Chicago at the "National Conference for a New Politics."
Or read Professor Thomas Jackson's book FROM CIVIL RIGHTS TO HUMAN RIGHTS:MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR AND THE STRUGGLE FOR ECONOMIC JUSTICE.
-Savant
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He did screw himself. However, my point is that Whites in America won't let a "Herman Cain Black man" into the White house. A mulatto? Yes. Whites have a long history of promoting mulattoes over Blacks. Herman Cain was "too Black" to win, and that is why "they" dug up some dirt on him so they could sink him.
-Kashta Bureh (Note by Me: I don't agree with all of his views like calling people the M word. There are biracial brothers and sisters that are down for the cause (of justice), but he is right on this point. This point being is that white supremacists prop up some biracial people as a means to falsely assume that these human beings are superior to black people culturally, which is false. The truth is that all humans are created equal regardless of the color of somebody's skin color. All people should be treated equally, but we should have more Black Unity in the world in order to defeat white supremacy period. Black is Beautiful and Strong. Black people are the first humans on Earth. -by Timothy)
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The problem that Zaius refuses to see is that concentration of wealth doesn't so much deny government so much as it denies the COMMON PEOPLE. And the wealth of the nation was created by the common people, not the robber barons Zaius wants to defend. At any rate numerous historians and philosophers--left, righjt and center-have pointed out for the past 2400 years, the gross inequality of wealth is the downfall of civilized polities and ultimately the death of civil freedoms. Men as varied as Aristotle, Jefferson, Rousseau, Hegel, Tom Paine and numerous others have come to a similar conclusion on that matter. At least moderate equality is necessary for a humane and civilized social order.
Savant obviously believes Apple, Google and Microsoft are a threat to the USA since they have 'stolen' and concentrated so much wealth, thus denying the government revenue they need to enforce the social justice the nation actually needs to succeed on a long term basis.....lol
We should have the government seize money from the robber barons to redistribute for all of the enslaved workers, that think they are free, but are forced to enrich aristocrats because the unenlightened government does not provide free housing and food yet.
Income equality is a fact of life just like intelligence inequality and physical prowess inequality.
I understand fellows like you that have received the short end of the stick on all of these traits might be angry about it, but that is on evolution, not racism.
-Savant
The last sentence is either a right wing talking point, or perhaps an oversimplification . Not even Karl Marx thought you could have total equality of outcome. But a reasonable equality is an idea of most progressives whether liberal or far left. How much is reasonable is open to debate. Even even non-left thinkers like Aristotle or Hegel, while not egalitarians, recognized that great inequality was dangerous to any civilized social order. Aristotle thought that the best arrangement would be one in which there were very few rich or poor, but that most were in a middle class situation. Tom Paine, Jefferson (despite being slaveowner) and Rousseau thought a measure of equality (how much being debatable), though not absolute equality is a NECESSARY CONDITION for the maintaining of a free society. Radical inequality leads to politial tyranny, and is a form of tyranny. The current concenration of wealth in America today is a serious thread to the future of democracy. Actually, just about EVERYONE in America is pro-individual freedom. But conservatives fail to realize that the individula him/herself is social. Even individual frreedom is a social condition. As for the buying and selling of labor--which is really a buying and selling of human beings--that is no exactly what one can honestly call freedom. People sell themselves in the form of their labor because they MUST. Thi sounds more like necessity than freedom
-Savant
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I have heard and read that parts of the Jewish community in America--I think it is the Orthodox--are quite critical of Israel, if not simly anti-Israel. But that is also a religiously based opposition. Most American Jews who are severely critical of Israel, or even (in few cases) anti-Israel, seem to be quite secular. Or maybe it only seems so to me because I, like your compatrot philosopher Sartre, have most of my associations in the Jewish community with secular Jews, usually liberal or left of liberal. I'm not sure what the picture looks like in Europe itself. Are European Jews like Stephane Hessel, author of INDIGNEZ-VOUS! representative of French or European Jewish sentiments? Or perhaps Jewish opinion (religious or secular) is divided on Israel? (Come to think of it, I would like to become familiar with Jewish publications over there. I fairly well familiar with American ones, especially Tikkun, to which I had a subscription)
-Savant
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Point of suspician wrote:
Since his presidency half the workers in California are living out in the streets and have lost their homes, and that is working sixteen hours a day , and six days a week.
Oh, I hope you have some EVIDENCE that half of California workers are living on the streets, and that ths is due to Obama.
CAPITALISM,as it's evolving in the contemporary era, may very well lead to half of us living on the streets. And to protect the the 1% that creates this disaster, coercive measures will be used.
What some Americans are learning, is that the plutocracy rules whether under a Republican or Democratic administraiion.
-Savant
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The Revolutionist wrote:
The thing about rich black kids is they are rich and have mummy and daddy to take care of them if they fail school whereas the poor kids do not have that option.... Also, the rich kids are unlikely to ever need to rob people or sell drugs for money they are already rich... So for me, they are not much of a problem. It is the poor kids who are going to suffer more from having bad grades or living in poverty which will or may cause them to do evil to survive. You are right when you say that hip hop doesn't encourage education, but no music does! the purpose of music is the same as the purpose of films which is to entertain us, we can't expect anything else from it... The strange thing is, I was doing some studying way back concerning rappers and found out that there are a lot of them who are actually educated, such as:
Lupe Fiasco, Tupac, Immortal Technique, Slug, Eyedea, J Cole, Talib Kweli, Ludacris, David Banner, Common, Lil Wayne, Ice Cube, Flavor Flav, Chuck D, Rah Digga, E-40, Stat Quo, Young MC, Chino XL, Q-Tip, Roxanne Shante has a PhD, Defari has a Master's degree, Canibus and the list goes on, not forgetting famous dropouts like Kanye and Diddy. Educated men rapping about robbery, selling drugs and gangsterism = fantasy, plus real gangsters and killers wouldn't normally record confessions of their crimes on a rap song, that would be incredibly "STUPID". So the problem is with the listener rather than the material they listen to, so if the problem is the listener even if you ban rap it wouldn't stop the underlying issue which in my opinion is about survival in the hood... If you take away rap it would need to be replaced with something else because folks will still be poor still sell drugs!
It's sick isn't it? Educated black men and woman promoting miseducation and lowered value of education to young black men and woman. All for the MONEY. Sell-outs at the very core, nothing but modern day coonery buffoonery like the old minstrel shows. This is nothing to take part in, we must boycott their trash they call music, it is not to our advantage. I know that music is more than entertainment, because we see how it affects what people wear, the slang the use, and how they see themselves. It is a very powerful medium and blacks need to make more positive listening choices.
-Near Future
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Well you do have a point, these rappers don't care about the influence they can cause with their words simply because they are not held accountable.
It's sick isn't it? Educated black men and woman promoting miseducation and lowered value of education to young black men and woman. All for the MONEY. Sell-outs at the very core, nothing but modern day coonery buffoonery like the old minstrel shows. This is nothing to take part in, we must boycott their trash they call music, it is not to our advantage. I know that music is more than entertainment, because we see how it affects what people wear, the slang the use, and how they see themselves. It is a very powerful medium and blacks need to make more positive listening choices.
As long as they get "laid and paid" that is all that matters to these rappers, they have long sold their souls for the trappings of success, but we cannot really do much about it as they are exercising their freedom of speech, it is down to us to teach our kids that the behaviour promoted on these rappers are at best just fantasists and at worse, low life scum.
You are partly right about music, at the end of the day music "to whites" or white society is just entertainment, but to black people music has always been used in a very different way and always featured more as part of our cultures, like Reggae also had its own culture as well as hip-hop, Ska, and so on..
The only way around it is to either ban it,(which I doubt they ever will do because white kids love hip hop while going through their rebellious phases and will forever by the albums)... Or we have to teach our children that it is all fake or at least teach these kids that many of these rappers are educated so they shouldn't take their gangster talk too seriously!...Lol.
-The Revolutionist
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The Revolutionist wrote:
Well you do have a point, these rappers don't care about the influence they can cause with their words simply because they are not held accountable. As long as they get "laid and paid" that is all that matters to these rappers, they have long sold their souls for the trappings of success, but we cannot really do much about it as they are exercising their freedom of speech, it is down to us to teach our kids that the behaviour promoted on these rappers are at best just fantasists and at worse, low life scum.You are partly right about music, at the end of the day music "to whites" or white society is just entertainment, but to black people music has always been used in a very different way and always featured more as part of our cultures, like Reggae also had its own culture as well as hip-hop, Ska, and so on..
The only way around it is to either ban it,(which I doubt they ever will do because white kids love hip hop while going through their rebellious phases and will forever by the albums)... Or we have to teach our children that it is all fake or at least teach these kids that many of these rappers are educated so they shouldn't take their gangster talk too seriously!...Lol.
-Near Future
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hiwhatisyourname wrote:
I never understood in my YOUNGER years, but my mom made it a point to NEVER purchase 'white' dolls for me to play with. I remember going through a faze when I was upset about it, saying things like "Those dolls are pretty though". She stood stern, and strong at her position. "YOU WILL NOT PLAY WITH WHITE DOLLS IN MY HOUSE".
My parent were NOI members. There were a lot of things that I was confused about when growing up with muslim parents. As an adult I thought back at all the tactics, hardships, and trial they put me through as a youngster. I realize how much of a blessing it was to be rtaised by strong AA parents who trully cared about me, and knew what was best for me. THANK gawd for those trials. I thank him every chance I get.
Till today, I will still say there is no other man I trully long for more than a stern AA man. An AA man can understand an AA women more than other men. I agree that rasicm is a STUPID route to choose. So I don't! The fact still remains, I would prefer/want an AA man more than any other kind of man in the world. Is it worth going through heyl for a Hispanic man to understand? Is it worth going through heyl for an Indian/Native American man to understand?White/Asian, etc?
My parent were NOI members. There were a lot of things that I was confused about when growing up with muslim parents. As an adult I thought back at all the tactics, hardships, and trial they put me through as a youngster. I realize how much of a blessing it was to be rtaised by strong AA parents who trully cared about me, and knew what was best for me. THANK gawd for those trials. I thank him every chance I get.
Till today, I will still say there is no other man I trully long for more than a stern AA man. An AA man can understand an AA women more than other men. I agree that rasicm is a STUPID route to choose. So I don't! The fact still remains, I would prefer/want an AA man more than any other kind of man in the world. Is it worth going through heyl for a Hispanic man to understand? Is it worth going through heyl for an Indian/Native American man to understand?White/Asian, etc?
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True, our kids need to see more positive images of blacks in the media which would help combat the negative stereotype, part of the problem is I think whites are obsessed with the black stereotypes and will pay good money to see them on films and on TV so we will have a battle on our hands with getting positive images of our folks in the media!.. Where do we start?
-The Revolutionist
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The Revolutionist wrote:
True, you must keep this thread going for as long as possible, as it is a positive thread you will have to be around a while before you get much traffic because black people tend to be quicker to respond to negativity than positivity, but I am sure that there are brothers and sisters out there who have some priceless knowledge of our past which would benefit us all 6827to know about.
-Near Future
http://www.topix.net/forum/afam/TIPTG77UL0LFSU80B/p46
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*I have been married to my wife for well over ten years....we have three handsome,highly intelligent,repsectful,proud,p roductive and ambitious sons....
Who just love and adore my wife....who is a fantastic wife and an even better mother to our children...
We have both been on vacation since the Friday before X-mas....we have had a blast....we've been courting and carrying on like college students again....
We fall head over heels in love with each other over and over again....with the change of each new season and each new period of our lives!
SO NO I DON'T SEE MYSELF DUMPING BW!
-Moorspeaks
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Herudagod wrote:
Yes, whites are the biggest hypocrites,wife beaters/killers and drug abusers to walk this planet. It kills me our own kind want to tear her down and Chris brown and bobby brown as well. They are so hell bent on destroying CB career and looking in every angle to find something to ruin him.
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The Revolutionist wrote:
It's true, white supremacy effects our kids from a very early age. They can see that black is portrayed as "bad and ugly" even when we cannot see it ourselves as we have become anesthetized to most of it by now!
-Refined
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqrdv67dtvs&feature=related
Sir,
i'm using this word as a reference to the movie "The Matrix" where a virtual predefined world is there like a smokescreen and people are really thinking what they see is reality.
Most whites are acting like the majority of people in this movie, living in an artificial mental world.
The racist groups - the kind of Zaius, oh'really, Englisman, Sadbutrue and all these aliases - are the officers tracking those who want to go out of this mental prison.
Some Black people like H. Cain are also voluntary victim of this collective illusion.
It took me years to become a rebel trying to break up with this nasty white matrix. Shaking down the matrix is setting Black people free and giving a new oxygen to human kind.
a whiteboi
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When Men and Women of color love each other unconditionally in it's puriest form, that is the most powerful force in the universe and known to mankind. Fam. Love is as strong as death is! Hotep.
M1Awakened 1 month ago 5 
But really though you have to look at it deeper than that, because thats how deep and malicious this attack is.....when the sister stated that it was interesting and telling that whites don't give a d___ whether your children are slayed in the streets,or whether or not you have a job, yet show strange concern over who black women are marrying,dating ect....ect....then you know they have a plan up their sleeves, and its the same plan they used to destroy black people in the past.
Thats REAL fam.....don't worry, many are learning, some the hard way, others coming into their own, may take some time, we'll lose some of the ignorant, but catch many more before its too late!
MA'AT
22 hours ago"Santorum told the GOP crowd, ”I don’t want to make Black people’s lives better by giving them other people’s money..." Oh, really? What abt the 250 years of free slave labor blacks gave whites without a penny of recompense? Republicans simply don't get it. They're not even the least bit politically sensitive abt our sordid American history nor care abt their gross ignorance.
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