Thursday, June 21, 2012

More Facts


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Taking this moment to wish you a Happy Father’s Day because you are appreciated!

You are the strength that bonds us. You are the provider who has to struggle more to enrich your family. You are the warrior who has to protect the family and home. 

We really don’t understand the battles you encounter from the naysayers of the world. You feel you constantly have to prove them wrong. Many have tried to jump ahead to plant the seed of doubt that you are not worthy of praise. Many have tried to say good black men who are great loving fathers doesn’t exist. We all know they are incorrect. We all know they thought they could bring you down. 

There are some that has to provide in separate residents, but have no doubt we know you love your children and there is nothing in the world you won’t do for them to show them they are loved. 

There are some who are distant who has to fight wars here and abroad. You are missed, loved and we are grateful for all that you do. 

No matter what type of negativity that might come today, remember you are loved, you are needed and you are appreciated. 

Happy Father's Day my Brotha's!


-MsNewNew




http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TVPD15G358MHVALOS


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Downunderbrutha wrote:
Oh hear we go a lecture from a "white privileged" position. Like we haven’t heard this tired out old crap 20 millions times.

The fact is that anybody who has "white skin" is the direct benefactor over 400 years of wealth that was generated from the slavery & the forceful accusation of non-white lands. Not only this but whites then restricted via "institutional racism" fair & equal access to these gains all the way up until the 1970s.

As for "whites" tilling their own land, don’t you think that’s a mute point because?

a/ The land was often stolen from a Native either directly or given to whites for free to own.
b/ That this represented an opportunity self-advancement not afforded the Natives or the Africans.
c/ It actually validates my point about how the initial inequality has lead to generational disadvantage of non-whites.

Despite your negative propaganda; blacks in America have done very well, in less than 50 years (when legal segragation was ended) they have become very productive contributors to modern America. Yet we have racist whites like yourself who only want to focus on people who aren’t doing well by your standard, so you can somehow feel superior. Something that whites have excelled at is finding ways to look & feel superior (white supremacy), and this is where your kind of thinking originates from & it is easy to dissect in a second.

I pointed you to some well researched & even government run sites that point out, that black babies die more in countries run by whites. & you avoid comment on these & go on to slavery revisionism WHY?. Now when you speak of RESPONSABILITY if a social system is run by one group & it’s clear that it dose not benefit the other, who is responsible for that inequality.

As for your crap about slavery I wont spend long on it because its mostly apologist myths cooked up to exonerate the so called "white race", and its also irrelevant as the wealth generated from SLAVERY & colonialism benefited all whites every where by funding progress which you all shared. The Irish where held as indentured servants during & after conquest by the British & where only held for a set period of time, when they where allowed to go free they where often GIVEN FREE LAND after the indenture period. If the Irish where so persecuted in the colonies why are they major owners of property in most of the American cities?.

This is not the same thing as chattel slavery of Africans which meant you where owned as live stock until death as where your offspring, so please don’t try & use the Irish as an example. Nor did they endure another 200 years of institutional racism designed to limit access to progress, as did blacks & Natives in America.

AND BTW WAY: IT WAS YOU WHO CAME HERE TO BLAME BLACKS FOR THIS YOUNG BOY BEING MURDERED BY A WHITE PERSON SO WHO ARE YOU ACCUSING OF BLAMING?


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Downunderbrutha wrote:
"Blacks in Africa still own slaves today."

And the so called civilised white man still runs the world’s largest people & children trafficking rings globally. They also the biggest users of child sex services in Asia & Africa, and run & profit from global rings of child pornography- What’s your point?

I am not going bother answering you any further as its clear you simply came here to absolve the "white race", we arent interested as you have no idea what we are talking about & you wont look at the information you where offered.

BTW its you living in the past, the one where you position of white privilege gives you the right to dictate to colored person how to think. I’m real sorry for you but that time is long gone & you won’t escape the results of wielding 400 years of advantage over non-whites for much longer.


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Kushite Prince Says: 
June 10, 2012 at 9:52 am
@TrojanPam Yes,I know a few black people like that as well. Why do you think they can’t see the evidence? Do you think it’s denial? Or do they really not see it? I think we’ve been trained in this society to always have hope. And to look for a better tomorrow. To just look past the obvious evidence and be hopeful that one day whites will see us as equals. And just give us justice without demanding it. Looking at the history of white folks,I don’t think they would do this on their own. I don’t think it’s in their nature to be fair and just. All that “Truth,justice and the American way” crap,never applied to us in the first place. We came here as free labor and to build up this country and to a large extent–that’s what we still are.




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TrojanPam Says: 
June 9, 2012 at 3:11 pm
@ Kushite Prince


There does seem to be a collective white conscious and subconscious that has allowed them to sustain their system by doing and saying the same things no matter where they are on the planet


which explains why they have been so successful in dominating the non-white majority on the planet


Sadly, most of the black people I know would think this is an exaggeration,


and totally resist the notion that they — we — are living under a white-controlled system that totally dominates us — despite all the hard evidence.


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TrojanPam Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 3:55 pm
@ Kushite Prince


you mean reviews like this:


“I am encouraged that my grandson, now 15, has been raised on the Lord of the Ring stories. He loved those movies, and when the time comes, he will identify with his people, and fight with everything in his power to preserve them and their way of life. He and others like him, will be formidable indeed.”


AND


“They picked rather ugly actors to play Snow White and the Huntsman. They have broad noses and the huntsman looks brutish. I have personal friends that are much more attractive than these people! Compare the appearance of White performers from a few decades ago. In the old days you could also take as a given that the Evil Queen would have black hair.”


AND


“Great article! What can be more moral than defending a people from extermination and extinction? Whites are worth defending and they WILL survive. We should do everything in our power, spiritually, morally, financially, socially to wake our people.”


AND


“Beautiful article! May Whites awaken in such a way that they build strength and strategy, so as wisely to fight for what is theirs!”


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When I was reading this, I couldn’t stop thinking about Dr. Welsing and her theory about FEAR OF WHITE GENETIC ANNIHILATION. Only extreme paranoia could account for this sociopathic ABILITY to see themselves as victims instead of victimizers./>


http://cree7.wordpress.com/2012/06/07/counter-racist-film-review-snow-white-the-huntsman-oh-yeah-and-star-trek-and-ray/




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Kushite Prince Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 2:23 pm
Have any of you read the comments from the review? Those white folks are something else!lol They’re really going at the Jews pretty hard! Many if them feel that the Jewish-controlled Hollywood is too anti-white.lol. How funny is that? It’s always been interesting to me how blacks and whites can see the same films–but see them totally different . Whites definitely see things through a “white scope”. I don’t know how they can claim Hollywood is anti-white. I’m sorry,I just don’t see it. Maybe I’m just not looking hard enough I guess.lol


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TrojanPam Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@ Cree


Only repeating what you, Gus, Josh, Dr. Welsing, Mr. Fuller, and so many others have said in multiple ways and multiple times.


I know how potent that white crack is cause I have caught myself smiling at the idiot box as I got my first white crack high of the day….


But I’m getting better…


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TrojanPam Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 1:14 pm
@ Kushite Prince


I saw a pic of Charlize holding her non-white child, and it was so frustrating to know that we can no more protect our children from white possession than we were during slavery.


The irony is many black people seemed thrilled by these white adoptions (more proof of ‘good white people’) as though these black children are luckier than the ones who have black parents


But if you’ve ever read or talked to these adopted children when they become adults all you hear is sadness and a sense of not belonging anywhere. And they often speak of being victimized by the whites in their family and social circles.


I think these adoptions are no different than the aboriginal children in Australia who were STOLEN from their parents and subjected to all kinds of mistreatment AKA destroyed.


This is white supremacy in its most refined form, sabotaging the victim when they are young and the most vulnerable to guarantee they will NEVER oppose this system.


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CREE-EIGHT Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 1:07 pm
Me either. The “HUNTSman?” Hunting for white people is practice for murdering us. “Fair = white = beautiful? NOT.”


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CREE-EIGHT Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Shakin my head fast—vertically—-It hurts so good. THANK YOU.


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TrojanPam Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Here’s my two-cent perspective on the Guest Post by Josh Wickett (who has written some counter-racist movie reviews that reveal a ton about white supremacy (http://www.thecode.net/features/movies/movie_index.htm)


I agree that Hollywood films are often laced with white supremacy/black inferiority (which is precisely why i seldom pay to see movies).


There are a ton of hidden AND not so hidden messages in most films but unfortunately, most black people (in my opinion) see movies and TV as just “entertainment” almost as though we’re wearing the kind of blindfolds Josh talks about.


I have concluded that for us (black people) movies and television are a fatal form of escapism, a way to avoid our own reality, a way to avoid the work that must be done to make ourselves and our children safe in a racist society, and a way to get our daily dose of white crack (white people),


cause face it, if you watch a lot of TV and movies, white people are about 95 to 99% of the people you’ll see. Not Asians, Not Hispanics, Not Black or Brown or Red or Yellow people. There might be one or two of us as background material, where we’re smiling and grinning and helping white people,


but no real context of black or red or brown or yellow life or lifestyles.


That being said, I have torn off my blindfold (for the most part) and try to see what is really there (white supremacy).


The scariest part (to me) is the millions of black men, women, and children who are watching a ton of TV and movies and getting that white chip permanently rooted in their skulls with the message that:


white is right, white is normal and white is the best,


because you can’t tell me that after watching hours of white people doing whatever it is white people do, that you don’t develop an AFFINITY towards them. You’re watching them day after day crying, laughing, working, living, creating, discovering, and loving with very few images of black people living NORMAL lives or ACTING NORMAL.


and so what happens is when you’re away from TV or movies what you really miss is your white people in the form of your favorite white characters on the shows and movies you enjoy most,


and you’ll be cheering for them and smiling with them a hell of a lot MORE than you do with the real (black) people in your lives.


and after the TV is turned off,


most of us (i believe) seldom extend that type of loyalty or friendliness towards the real (black) people in our lives


The proof is the way we put down and act toward our own (black) people and yet we think our growing dislike for our OWN people is just a coincidence…


caused by too many black people acting like….n_____s (not my word)


It’s so bad that I’ve actually heard black people who are being victimized by racism (white people) still blaming other black people for being victims of racism (!)


and more and more of us are looking at AND judging other black people through white eyes


as though we are white, too.


You might counter with, wait a minute, TV is escapism for white people, too!


Well, yes it is, but they are getting a different message and that is THEY are the smartest, bestest people on the planet, always coming to the aid of these inferior non-white people,


and if white people are not careful and do not keep that big white foot on those black and brown necks, these savages will wreck this wonderful society, world, and planet that white people built (all by themselves)


The white supremacy in TV is a WHITE WAKE-UP CALL which is why you see more alien and monster themes, more Planet of the Apes sequels, and more black male and female villains (like the movie Precious, District 9, and certain Denzel movies)


and this will lead (as planned) to more blatant racist acts/statements/policies/ and police actions against black people


TV and movies are no longer ‘just entertainment’


they are a rallying cry to get the white troops on line with the real message:


white supremacy now and forever


I just wish more of us understood this when we pay $20 for theater seat and a tiny bag of popcorn laced with artificial “butter”


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Kushite Prince Says: 
June 7, 2012 at 11:28 am
Charlize Theron is also added to the list of white celebs who have adopted black pets. Oops! I meant black children. I guess this gives her a bit more “black cred”. I won’t be seeing this garbage called Snow White. They even still use the line “fairest of them all”. Just more white supremist programming. I think I’ll pass and save my money.

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yea, its a purposeful shunning of the murderous savagery that whites have and still do engage in to our people, and will try and cover up ttheir tracks by placing the blame on the victim, just as they've done throughout their existence and infiltration amongst our people and melanated peoples of this world......
They stink a place up, and murder/wipe out or subjugate innocent and naturally evolving peoples, then try and justify it or downplay it in some form or fashion.
MA'AT

Well sister ida b wells was definitely one of our most beloved sister warriors in our time,but this discussion was about the lynching that took place on December 3rd,2010 to the young brother frederick jermaine carter, and the queen here in this show made sure to wrap around this discussion, the heroine acts and courage of our brothers and sisters of the past during even worse conditions, and tie it into why our people of today arent awake enough to realize it ain't no different


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Thanks for raising the profile of this wonderful sister,Ida B.Wells,our beloved heroine.She saved many lives & showed us how to resist.




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I remember many years ago a brother came on this radio show called hot 97 saying that lynching is still going on but its always ruled a suicide Wether its in jail or somewhere else.I have a cousin that been to jail and i happen to know that its near impossible to hang yourself there without any help.That brother who came on the show was their to promote a Emmit Till documentary or play that he made(i don`t exactly remember).Thanks for the post,i never heard about this.

ya know....lol...ain't much else need to be said....hahahaha....whats ashame is that this actual conversation i've overheard, give or take a few lines...thats why i decided to put this shit on here....expose some of these negropeans hidin behind melanin.....
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Sagacity wrote:

Of course, but would you opposr all hands in the government till or only white republican hands?
The insidious lies that the Republican party uses to inflame racists by insinuating that it's only Blacks or other minorities receiving federal aid through entitlement programs is the height of hypocrisy when one realizes that Republicans (mostly white) have their greedy, grubby hands in the gov't till through programs like the federal farm subsidies. So you can make of it what you will. However the fact remains that these hypocritical accusers, i.e. Malkin, have their hands in the government till as well. It's way more profitiable, I might add than any welfare mom could think of, lol.


-bappie


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Note by me: I don't agree with calling this man a moron, but I get the point.


By Timothy






Abdurratln wrote:

The freeing of the slaves was the work of the right wing Republicans. Now that you have raised the issue, let me ask you a question: what exactly has the Dummycrats ever done for Africa? I grant you that Johnson was forced to sign the Civil Rights legislation. But, the Dummycrats have been watering it down with "women rights" and now "gay rights" ever since. So, what have they ever donw that Africans benefit from? The only thing I can think is Obama forgave Liberia's national debt. But the first time that was done it was a Republican president who did it, not to mention that Republicans helped to get Liberia started in the first place.
I am waiting for your answer. I expect to be waiting forever.
Moron! it was the DEMOCRATS who were the right wing party in the time of slavery and the Civil War. In THOSE days, the Republicans was the most LEFT of the two parties. Why else would KARL MARX correspond with Abraham Lincoln?
What have the Democrats done for Africa? Same as your friends, the Republican fascists: noting.
Liberation is thw work of the popular masses themselves. 
Now it is certainly true that Johnson was under pressure from the Movement top sign the civil rights acts of the 1960's as Licoln was under pressure to issue the Emancipation Proclamation.
Poliics is politics, you simpleton. So, even "liberals" in office, have to be pressured. 
That is why mass movements are so important. But you must stand outside the narrow confines of your Muslim fundamentalism if you want to understand how the real world works. Learning a little history might help also


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Abdurratln wrote:

And do not gorget that you said only a couple of days ago that the "industrialists" donated huge millions top help built up Tuskegee U. "Indiustrialists" have a habit of being Republicans, not gangsters and kkk terrorists like most left wing Dummycrats
Indsutrialists wanted a docile labor force, and Booker T. Wshington offered it to them. Tuskegee, like Booker T., was a tool. 
Also, indsutrialists have been found in both Democratic and Republican Parties. And they are gangstars, thugs, and warmongers when it suits their interests.
Furthermore, there ;s no records of leftists engaging if lynchings of African-Americans.
Neither liberal Democrats, nor liberal Republicans (when there wer some) were know for lynchings. The Socialist Party, the Communist party, the IWW--none of them were involved in lynchings. In fact, the American left always opposed such barbarism.
And if you're stupid enough to think that the KKK--a fascist, anti-progressive terrorist organization--is leftist, then you should be denied the ballot on grounds of mental incompetence.


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Abdurratln wrote:

And do not gorget that you said only a couple of days ago that the "industrialists" donated huge millions top help built up Tuskegee U. "Indiustrialists" have a habit of being Republicans, not gangsters and kkk terrorists like most left wing Dummycrats
Indsutrialists wanted a docile labor force, and Booker T. Wshington offered it to them. Tuskegee, like Booker T., was a tool. 
Also, indsutrialists have been found in both Democratic and Republican Parties. And they are gangstars, thugs, and warmongers when it suits their interests.
Furthermore, there ;s no records of leftists engaging if lynchings of African-Americans.
Neither liberal Democrats, nor liberal Republicans (when there wer some) were know for lynchings. The Socialist Party, the Communist party, the IWW--none of them were involved in lynchings. In fact, the American left always opposed such barbarism.
And if you're stupid enough to think that the KKK--a fascist, anti-progressive terrorist organization--is leftist, then you should be denied the ballot on grounds of mental incompetence.

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Bravo-Sierra wrote:

Any analogy that disagrees with your Marxist agenda is "weak" in your opinion.
Yes, you are a marxist. This quote of yours proves it;

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TQCPPTT6PFOC7...
No one appointed you to dictate who can post where.
I've also noticed you're a big proponent of violence.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TLCGE4G439637...
A perfect candidate for the aimless Occupy movement.
Citizen journalist Ringo captured this speaker at the Occupy Los Angeles camp a few days ago letting the cat out of the bag: After dismissing nonviolence as a dead end, he admits that for the Occupiers to achieve their goals, violence and bloodshed will be necessary:
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/...
Watch the video before you make a ridiculous claim of it being made up by the right.
Don't talk to me about any "Marxist agenda", you politically illiterate buffoon. Like most ignorant reactionaries, you wouldn't know Karl Marx from Grouch Marx. As for my postion on "Truth teller," I stand on it. Jews do not allow Nazis to publish anti-semitic rantings in JEWISH TIMES, nor are such bigots welcomed in Jewish forums like TIKKUN. Similarly, white racists should not be allowed in an AFRICAN-AMERICAN FORUM to vilify and race bait black people. They can express their racist free speech in Stormfront or some equally depraved outfit.
Either that, or AA Forum should be rquired to change its name.

As for my position that the Occupy Movement has remained a primarily NONVIOLENT MOVEMENT, I've seen no evidence to the contrary. Incidents selectively cherry picked do not prove otherwise.
Futhermore, you racist right wing scalawags have not business preaching to em about violence--not with your record of mass violence.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNKwD4lwlZc&list=PL0E82493D2E858944&index=75&feature=plpp_video



Indeed, glad you know now, because a lot of our people don't even know what happen to this young brother, as well as a lot of other lynchings that have taken place in jails in mississippi, within the past 10 years.....
MA'AT

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LION wrote:

NO. I was just asking, thats all.
I am proud of you for doing that.
NExt step is to get with a few black friends and start up a small investment company.
Penny stock or vending machines would be a good start.
SAve money and put other blacks in their own businesses with your company getting atleast 5 percent of the profit.
Thanks and I totally agree with you we need to do more investing in US.


-MsNewNew

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I believe that alcoholism is recognized as an illness, a REAL illness in the medical community. And if you're REALLY disabled by it, then the disability is REAL, not bogus. However, alcoholics commonly do have jobs. Even people on other drugs often have jobs. Even rich people running companies has members who are alcoholics and dope fiends. But only those from the middle classes on down, are seen as slothful or lazy. Such is the state of our decadent capitalist society. 


-Savant


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Bravo-Sierra wrote:

The Obama administration has already ruled out the only rational response to the crisis of healthcare availability: the establishment of a single-payer system in which the federal government would guarantee universal access to healthcare as a matter of right. Every other advanced industrialized country has some form of universal coverage. But such a system would eliminate the tens of billions raked in by insurance companies whose “business model” requires that they limit coverage, deny treatment or reject bills—in other words, it would infringe on the “right” of MetLife, Aetna, CIGNA and other giant corporations to make a profit from illness and disease.
Despite the fevered rhetoric of the ultra-right, the Obama administration’s plans have nothing in common with such a restructuring of the healthcare system along socialist lines. On the contrary, Obama has repeatedly sought to reassure the profiteers that their interests will be looked after and that they are better off at the table, working with him, than outside. The for-profit healthcare and insurance firms have taken up this offer with enthusiasm.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jun2009/per...
Well, that's a persistent criticism of the Obama policies from a left or progressive perspective. After SAYING during his campaign that he favored universal single payer health care, after arguing contra McCain that health care is a HUMAN RIGHT rather than a privilege, Obama offers a health care package only a little better than the nothing we had before, a package which leaves corporate dominance (slightdly reformed) in place.
for tme this is another indication that established "liberalism" is exhausted, and that America needs more radical left if the country is to move forward. The few good ideas which liberals as far back as FDR ever had came from socialists and left populists anyway. Without a more militant progressive presence, Republicans and the right will likely drag us into Fascism.


-Savant


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Let's distinguish between  "civil rights" and "civil rights movement." We may not own the term "civil rights," but it can be successfully argued we shed enough blood to own  "civil rights movement."  No other group's civil rights has been more suppressed and oppressed than those of the darkest skin in this nation and elsewhere around the world.

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I fail to see the similarities. You just described what is called a false stereotype about black men. It turns out, the very same white men who lied about black men being "beastly sexual perverts" were themselves guilty of some of the worst forms of perversion and fornication, including bestiality.

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True, but clearly we suffered the most, and what became the "civil rights movement" came into existence because of the blood our forefathers shed in this nation's hateful past. We also don't own the word "slavery" but we sure suffered the most because of it.

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beautiful black woman wrote:

The only women who are claiming this probally are not even women, do you realize that trolls come here on a daily basis pretending to be black women and black men? What black woman in their right mind would say such a thing? Who are these black women you speak of? Because I know the majority of black women do not place white men above black men that is the biggeest bs Ive ever heard in my 34 years of life. And why do you say ww why not say ww youve had met in your life?? Your prejudging black women and making us seem like the enemy but your praising all white women which more than half are racists???? What is wrong with todays black people????
I agree. We need to talk about real issues (that benefit black men and black women) instead obsessing with the anti-black propaganda. This new generation of anti-blackness slander (even from some brainwashed black people) is truly disgraceful. The trolls should be ignored like usual. The real deal is that instead of attempting to mimic a group of people that don't care for us or have the best interest for us at heart, we should heal and find unique ways to advance the agendas of our own black communities. The white supremacists always try to brainwash the weak or the doubting in our community, but they will never win in the end. The weak and the doubting although should receive compassion and a chance to grow their own social disposition. Many brothers and sisters are waking up. In the end, Black Power & Black Unity will be resilience, strong, and graciously potent in world society.


-By Timothy (Me)




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By the way, you shouldn't be so hard of philosophy majors. Some of the most distinguished---ev en BRILLIANT spokespersons--for Black freedom & Liberation (here and abroad) have been philosophy majors. Dr. W.E.B. Du Bois, a founder of Pan-Africanism and grandfather of our Civil Rights Movement, earned his baccalaureate degree in Philosophy from Harvard U before earning his Ph.D. in History. Kwame Nkrumah, before leading Ghana to independence, earned his M.A. in Philosophy from University of Pennsylvania. (His philosophical acumen is shown in CONSCIENCISM) Dr. Martin Luther King studied philosophy & systematic theology at Boston University up through the Ph.D. level. Bob Moses, before becoming a SNCC leader in the early 1960s freedom movement in Mississippi, studied and obtained a M,A. degree in Philosophy & Math. Kwame Ture (aka Stokely Carmichael) obtained a BA in Philosophy from Howard University. Angela Davis studied Philosophy at Brandeis (with Marcuse) and later at the Frankfurt School in Frankfurt Germany. Amiri Baraka holds a MA in Philosophy. And Frantz Fanon (who was studying philosophy, history & literature before going to university)studied Philosophy even while studying Psychiatry at the university of Lyons in France. (To be exact, he enrolled in the Philosophy Dept at the school of Liberal Arts while studying Medicine) It seems all this learning didn't obstruct them as thinkers of as movers and shakers. Creative thinking won't hurt you. It may even improve you. Try it sometime. 


-Savant



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