Thursday, July 24, 2014

Wisdom


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IN a forum--a real forum--people would discussing and debating ISSUES and IDEAS. But in this so-called African American--which in fact is NEITHER-- discussions and debates very quickly turn personal. Often there is no debate at all. And when there is, those debates often turn into quarrels. It is interesting that when I listen to statements, speeches or writings of those cats back in the 1960s--Martin, Malcolm, Angela, Bobby Seale or whomever--yeah, they sometimes ge personal, but they're mainly about issues. Malcolm's "Message to the Grassroots" occasionally issues insults, but mainly offers an ANALYSIS. And this was a brother without even a high school education. Our political culture, like the political culture of America as a whole, has seriously deteriorated and regressed.

-Savant

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Don't be a fool! The Convention Peoples Party was the political organization led by Dr.Kwame Nkrumah, who led Ghana to independence from British rule---decades before anything like "Afrocentrism " was even conceived. Probably before Molefi Asant was even born. While I hardly consider Abdurratin a worthy successor to Nkrumah and his comrades, the CPP was a movement of great historical importance. And the great evil was not "Afrocentrism " but colonialism, imperialism and white supremacy. For the most part that still is the case.

-Savant

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Your first source is a right wing white propaganda site; hardly a credible source. Your second link I cannot access. Most rappers one listens to are simply talking trash, or "gangsta " stuff (mainly against other Black people), but not extermination of whites. And who is Selwyn Duke? What is his area of scholarly expertise? At any rate, most Black violence is actually directed against other Blacks---just a most violence against whites comes from other whites. And street violence, or common criminal violence hardly amounts to genocide, or even contributory to genocide unless part of a plan of genocide. Blacks are in no position to orchestrate such a plan even if they WANTED to--and most don't want to Indeed, if there were a REAL danger of genocide in America it would be a danger to Blacks, not whites. Whites still control most of the political power, and even more of the economic power. They still also have nationally a monopoly on instruments of force and violence. While I will not claim that there's an actual plan afoot for Black genocide--for I have no credible EVIDENCE of such---it would be more likely (given actual power relations in the USA) than any genocide against whites. But given the declining fertility of whites both in America and Europe, given their declining birth rates, nature or perhaps their own social practices may be a danger to the future of whites.

-Savant

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Strange that I, a Black man in America, don't hear Black men talking or worrying that much about their population growth. When you hang out with brothers that's just NOT the conversation. Some brothers are interested in politics, maybe wondering what happens next after Obama. Some brothers--not many--talk about the danger of Black genocide. Some SISTERS I've also heard talk about such things.(As early as the 1930s & 40s Dr. W.E.B. Du Bois pondered the possibility that the fate of European Jewry could become the fate of America's Blacks). Others just talk about sports. Naturally, men talk about women. (Of course, ALL men do that--not just Black men). I simply don't hear Black men talking about killing any "opposition ", though some do hold that when scumbags like the pigs who killed Diallo or Trayvon Martin walk, then maybe WE should take them out. I don't hear many Black men talking about any mass slayings of whites, and they seem to regard as CRAZY the few who do talk about such things. I hear Black men talk about the huge numbers of people in prison, the scarcity of jobs, and the near nonexistence of a decent wage for most of the few jobs available. The fact of the matter is that Black men are such an complex and diverse human group that most generalization you make about them are likely to be either false, or at best a partial truth. I don't hear any significant number of Black men talking about mass killings of non-Black others. I think that the belief that they do is a paranoid illusion.

-Savant

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Maryland was a slave state, and practiced segregations. So much for Maryland's liberalism unless you're comparing MD to backwaters like Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida and other centers of American Fascism. At any rate, Maryland (and America) doesn't mind "lowering " standards on behalf of whites, especially where it serves the interests of the 1%. But I will credit Maryland for at least not practicing the most extreme forms of racism and class oppression. Perhaps that's one of the reasons that this "libtard " state is one of the wealthiest in the country with one of the highest general levels of education (however inadequate that level still is).

-Savant

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Given proper sources many times in this and other threads, and not just on the thought of Dr. King. At any rate, I've published work on King through a respectable academic publisher, which a number of AA Forum folk have actually seen, and which has been reviewed favorably by established King scholars (which I do not claim to be) like Lewis Baldwin and Rufus Burrows, Jr. (his most important work being, GOD AND HUMAN DIGNITY: PERSONALISM, THEOLOGY AND ETHICS OF MARTIH LUTHER KING, JR)

-Savant


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