From https://abagond.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/elite-upbringing-does-not-protect-black-kids-from-racism/#comment-267592
Trojan Pam
@ all
you know what the irony of it all is — SPEAKING of the dialogue between Linda Keres Carter and some of is
she is the only one on this thread who is talking about her suffering to black males and females who have been mistreated in ways she could never deal with or imagine. Most of us suffer in silence, we seldom share the horrible experiences we’ve had under the system of white supremacy, all the slights, and insults and snubs and treatment at the hands of white employers (or people who wouldn’t HIRE us), and the mistreatment by police, or authority figures, etc.
Many of us have had friends and family beaten or killed by police (I have), many of us have buried our children before their time, been the victims of crime by people who have been trampled under the system as children, have loved ones incarcerated, been cheated out of JOBS and opportunities, been denied service, been humiliated in public and in private just for being black, been “racially PROFILED” as we shop in a store or drive down the street (I definitely have experienced that many, many times), and have watched our children and ourselves and countless numbers of black children go through the wicked process of educational genocide as we languished in black schools custom designed to destroy our educational potential
and as black females, dealing with the twin assaults of SEXISM AND RACISM, who are regularly maligned in the racist mainstream media, been called nappy headed and ugly and worthless nearly all our lives, and are the WOMEN MOST LIKELY to be raped or assaulted in the U.S, and the MOST LIKELY to keep that secret because we know no one cares, including other black people
and I have watched countless numbers of black females have walking nervous breakdowns as they struggle to live under these conditions and raise their children often by themselves for a variety of REASONS (while Miss Linda is married to a black male), and so many in my city are burying their children before their time, children who were murdered at the hands of police, even children as young as NINE YEARS OLD.
yet I can’t remember a SINGLE black female (or black male for that matter) spending three entire days or more talking about how much they’ve suffered, like Linda Keres Carter has who I doubt has buried a single child or been racially profiled (unless traveling with her husband and he is the real target), or been refused service, or been saddled with inferior schools, or been denied unemployment (if she works), or denied ANYTHING ELSE.
I could understand if the police in her community here in the U.S. had been murdering the children in her community like they do in ours but I doubt that’s the case. YET black people as a whole seldom come on ANYONE’S blog (including mine) to talk about our immense suffering under the system of white supremacy
and then it OCCURRED to me, maybe we should. Maybe, instead of listening to that other stuff, we should be SHARING our stories and releasing some of the PAIN that is making us so physically AND mentally ill so other victims won’t feel so isolated and alone and will know it’s alright to feel however we feel, to let go of those egos and the shame of being mistreated because it is NOT OUR FAULT that we are being mistreated because we are black.
let’s not waste our precious SPIRITUALLY healing POWERS and sympathetic hearts on the WRONG PEOPLE.
-Sister Trojan Pam.
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Trojan Pam
@ Linda
I suggest you go back and read your postings. It is ALL ABOUT YOU, it is very self-involved and sounds very narcisstic. I doubt you would post like this on a white blog because they would shut you down.
And that is why I find some white people gravitate toward black people (and black spouses) because they are easier to manipulate and control (or so they think).
And that is why it’s important for BLACK PEOPLE to understand racism/white supremacy and how it works and especially how the most REFINED RACISTS work.
They will ALWAYS use their “whiteness” against us, to deceive us (refuse to answer SIMPLE questions), to manipulate us (making themselves the CENTER of the conversation), and to basically DERAIL us from any MEANINGFUL discussion about racism
they are often the ones who seek out “relationships” with us and that is a PRIMARY reason I am against black people engaging in sex with white people, especially refined racist white people,
because by the time they are through with you, your head is SPINNING like a top! You will be totally confused and you will think the world should rightfully revolved around white people ad infinitum (more like ad nauseous). and white ideology–which for the most part involves justifying racism and the mistreatment of black people or other white people, like bombing non-white nations, oppressing black people and all kinds of HUMAN atrocities — as long as it doesn’t happen to white people.
I have SEEN this over and over again (and I could care less who challenges me) — H, I have seen ti dozens of times on Abagond’s blog alone, a white person coming in and REDIRECTING the conversation away from black people.
@ Linda (continued)
In fact, this thread is a great example! And one I am going to use on my blogs and conversations to show how refined racism really works! And it is easy for anyone to fall into the trap because black people are a sympathetic people — especially when it comes to white people — and look how long we have tolerated and tried to communicate with you, Linda, who (if you look back at your posts) who has mostly been about YOU and YOUR SUFFERING — at the hands of white people
WHILE you are still functioning AS a white person which means YOU are being treated 100 PERCENT better than any black or non-white person reading this blog — and you come here asking for SYMPATHY from us?
Why aren’t you saying all that you have said on a WHITE BLOG to the white people you say are oppressing your people? My money says you haven’t and NEVER WILL. Why? Because you can’t manipulate them.
It reminds me of something a very knowledgeable counter-racist gentlemen told me yesterday. He was talking to a young female with a white mother and a black parent and she told him that while she and her (black) father were watching TV and listening to the Michael Brown verdict, her white mother came into the room and started talking about nothing, trying to DISTRACT them from hearing the news and when that didn’t work, she sat on the sofa and started making out with her husband.
Because that young (bi-racial) female had a better UNDERSTANDING of racism and how white people practice it, she understood what her mother was doing – and I have found this is often the case with white people and especially refined racist white people. — DERAIL, CONFUSE, DENY, AVOID.
And that, (black) folks is how they keep the system going by making it appear that only some white people function as racists — when IN FACT, nearly all are busy little foot soldiers at work to keep their system of WHITE PRIVILEGE and WHITE DENIAL smoothly functioning
I will NEVER, EVER be in favor of black people being SUCKED IN by these relationships because as long as we do AND do not understand how white people practice racism in ALL its forms, we will forever be subordinate and oppressed by them.
Thanks, Linda, for giving me even more ammunition in my fight to EDUCATE and INFORM other black people. Peace!
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PS — I agree with Thwack when it comes to you refusing to answer ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, the same way I could answer it
“Yes, Trojan Pam is a black person.” see how easy that was?
And I’d add, YES, Linda is DEFINITELY functioning as a white person and is on this blog practicing a VERY REFINED FORM of racism/white supremacy.
Linda — thanks for helping to educate everyone on this blog who cares to be educated
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Trojan Pam
@ Adeen Mckenzie-Kennedy
I can only speak for myself. If you look at my first few posts to Linda I was respectful but as time went on I realized something else was going on, that it appeared the ENTIRE topic was being diverted BY her to be all ABOUT her and that needed to be challenged.
I have watched similar scenarios play out time and time again, on the internet and in person, where white people would either become defensive (hostile) to any HONEST discussion about racism OR they would try to redirect and deflect and become deceptive and evasive
like NOT answering a simple question — “are you functioning as a white or a non-white person?”
How can they be any goodwill when someone is being deceptive?
I respect your desire to learn and to think for yourself and I suspect you will better understand what happened on this thread as you grow older and gain more wisdom
I would like to suggest you check out Mr. Fuller, Jr. on youtube or you can go to
blackcodefiles.com and listen to the sound clips
I would also suggest checking out the COWS program (the links are in my previous post)
Because UNTIL black and non-white people EDUCATE ourselves about this system and how it functions and USE that information to change the way we think, speak and act, NOTHING WILL CHANGE
There is NOTHING new that black people can do that previous generations have not done before us
they have begged, pleaded, marched, protested, carried signs, boycotted, appeased, tried to please, tried to assimilate, tried to integrate, tried to empathize and sympathize, be patriotic, dying in wars we had NO business fighting in,
in the hopes that whites collectively would soften their HARD hearts and see us as fully human
and what happened just a few days ago? a murderer of an unarmed black teenager was AGAIN set free by a rigged prosecution
Do we NOT understand that we cannot change white people? That we have to CHANGE OURSELVES?
That is why I posted as often as I did on this thread, to try to present my case as best as I could as to how white supremacy in its MOST REFINED form operates
an “well-meaning” white female married to a black male who tries to redirect a topic about black people and racism to HERSELF and HER PEOPLE without once addressing the pain of the black male she is married to and to try to accuse black people of being “guilty” and complicit in the mistreatment of one white tribe by another white tribe.
IT IS A MIND GAME and it is time we STOP being so easily manipulated
we can’t have it both ways, we can’t win our freedom and ride the fence at the same time when it comes to TELLING THE TRUTH about what we have and are experiencing. We have to GAIN SOME COURAGE and begin to speak TRUTH — and that is something most black people are TERRIFIED to do, despite all our ego and bravado and talk
The only thing that will happen to a people who ride the fence is one day they will find themselves AND their children
IMPALED ON IT
I wish you success in your own journey for truth and if there is anything I can do to help please let me know
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Trojan Pam
@ Herneith
Do not be irked by what I believe, given the overwhelming evidence, is true.
think about what Linda Keres Carter has posted and how SIMILAR it is to what I’ve (and maybe, you’ve) seen on Abagond’s blog posts and countless other black blogs, including mine.
The REFINED racism/white supremacy ‘game’ of deception, denial, then guilt. I have watched this play out so many times, you would think there’s a rulebook guiding racist behavior
and guess what? There IS. Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr. calls it “codfication” where white people often ACT and SPEAK in code. There’s even a LANGUAGE designed around it that many blacks do not recognize
for example, “urban” = “blacks”
“suburban” = “whites”
I would STRONGLY suggest all check out Mr. Fuller’s books and this website
blackcodefiles_com (where you can listen to free sound clips of Mr Fuller breaking down the system of white supremacy and you can find him on youtube as well.
Also, I cover many topics in my books which you can check out free excerpts on racismws_com
Without going into a long, detailed diatribe about it, this is the evidence that white people — collectively — are far from “dumb”. (now, as individuals, their intelligence ranges from the low end to the high end like every other group on the planet, and that is where I think black people get confused. They see the “ignorant” white person in person and think, this mother is too dumb to be smarter than me
That is NOT what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the COLLECTIVE BEHAVIOR/INTELLIGENCE of white people that has allowed a small minority (less than NINE percent of the planet’s population) to control the other NINETY-ONE percent.
How? Through VIOLENCE, CONFUSION, and DECEPTION -but also from following a CODE OF CONDUCT — CODIFICATION — in how they deal with people they have classified as “not white”
It’s like saying a CON MAN or WOMAN is dumber than you when they’re conning you out of your money, your property, your bodies, and your self-respect.
How can white people — collectively — behave the same way for the last 500 years toward people of color, no matter where they go on the planet? How is that possible without a “code?” How can they be ignorant when this behavior happens everywhere they go, even before the telephone or television was invented?
How could whites landing foot on Australia wind up doing the SAME THINGS to the original people (the Aborigines aka “originals) that they did to the non-white people in New Zealand without a CONDUCT CODE?
And if my CONDUCT CODE has been largely successful, and I have most of the non-white people on the planet under my thumb, watching my white supremacist movies and TV, applauding the anti-black MUSIC and black entertainers who degrade black people,
and bleaching their skin and thinning their noses, and having sex with me (despite my mistreatment of them), and fighting and hating and killing each other while being loyal to me and my whiteness
how in the WORLD am I acting out of ignorance?
It is black and non-white people who are IGNORANT — because we do not understand and/or REFUSE to understand and accept that we are being DOMINATED by a system of white supremacy and that ALL white people are benefiting from that system
and that is why the Linda Keres Carters of the world will NOT TELL YOU THEY ARE WHITE or are LIVING AS A WHITE PERSON with ALL the privileges of being white
so the black people she comes into contact with will remain CONFUSED and that is NOT ignorance, that is a CODE, that is CODIFICATION, and you were reading it right here on this post.
We MUST be our egos aside and tell ourselves the truth because only the TRUTH will set you free because if you are under the thumb of someone else there is no way in H you are smarter than they are, especially when you are COOPERATING with the same system that is oppressing you.
I hope you will check out Mr. Fuller’s sounds clips, believe me, you will begin to see things more clearly than you have ever seen them before.
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