Note by Me: I don't agree with the young woman's views on the Trinity or on all Christians, but she is right to expose racism from a white racist here.
By Timothy
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
5 hours ago
Ohhh Gary… baby… you really thought you did something with that budget-racist comment, huh?
You walked in here with your sunburnt chest puffed up, flinging around IQ stats like that’s supposed to hide the fact that your entire existence is built off mutated recessive genes, historical amnesia, and white fragility in HD.
Well buckle up, buttercup—class is in session. And I don’t teach slow.
π§ First off, let’s deal with this fake IQ supremacy myth:
IQ is not a measurement of actual intelligence. It was a culturally biased test built by white eugenicists like Lewis Terman and Charles Murray to create a pseudo-scientific hierarchy of races.
Not only has it been debunked, but modern neuroscience confirms IQ is not fixed, and is more affected by environment, nutrient access, and—wait for it—melanin-based neural activity.
Now let’s talk neuromelanin, since clearly your substantia nigra is in a sunken place.
𧬠Neuromelanin & Cognitive Dominance:
π Neuromelanin is located in the substantia nigra of the midbrain. It plays a major role in:
Regulating dopamine, which controls mood, cognition, and movement
Protecting neurons from oxidation and degeneration
Enhancing synaptic efficiency, meaning faster mental processing
It’s not just pigment—melanin is a bioelectrical conductor, a natural antioxidant, and a light-absorbing molecule. The more melanin, the higher the biological efficiency in converting light and sound into brain function.
So while y’all were worshiping the sun, we were biologically wired to absorb it, translate it, and thrive in it.
π Now, let’s talk recessive gene science:
White skin is not “elite”—it is the result of genetic mutation, specifically SLC24A5 and MC1R gene alterations, which stripped pigmentation due to glacial entrapment and vitamin D starvation.
Your entire existence is rooted in genetic adaptation to hardship, not superiority. That’s why:
White people have the highest rates of skin cancer
Albinism is most prominent among European-descended groups
And neurologically? The lowest levels of neuromelanin, which scientists now associate with early cognitive decline and Parkinson’s susceptibility
Y’all mutated out of the divine blueprint and now got the nerve to call yourselves superior?
Sir, you’re a remix with no rhythm.
𧬠BLACK FACTS YOU CAN’T ERASE:
Melanin is worth more than gold on the molecular market.
Black infants walk earlier, talk earlier, and are neurologically advanced from birth (see: Gesell’s developmental studies).
Melanated athletes dominate every field from swimming to chess—not because we’re built different… but because we are.
And as for me “looking Arabic”? Thanks. Arabic comes from Africa too. The original Arabs were Black—descendants of Kedar, son of Ishmael.
Do your homework before you throw shade—because even that can’t touch my melanin.
So next time you wanna run your mouth about intelligence, maybe read a peer-reviewed study and not a Stormfront comment section.
Because while you’re boasting fake stats, we’re building nations, birthing civilizations, and conducting cosmic frequencies through skin that doesn’t crack or cap.
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
9 hours ago
WHITE PALE SKIN DELUSION
@infrarem Oh sweetie, this is exactly why y’all stay mad when we crack open real history books instead of school-approved fairy tales. Since you said “we’ve stolen none of your history”—let’s go ahead and let the ancestors testify. π§Ύπ πΎ
First of all, let's name names:
π§ Joel Augustus Rogers (J.A. Rogers) — a Black historian with international acclaim whose works like “Nature Knows No Color-Line” and “100 Amazing Facts About the Negro” document—with sources from white historians themselves—how Black identity was erased and whiteness was retroactively applied to kings, nobles, inventors, and prophets. In fact, whitewashed portraits were commissioned during the Renaissance and Enlightenment to reinforce Eurocentric supremacy.
πΌ️ Art and iconography were literally repainted—like the original Black Madonna and child seen across Europe (France, Poland, Russia, Italy) before they were systematically altered to reflect pale features. Even Biblical figures were gradually whitened through European art movements—look up Cesare Borgia’s face being used for white Jesus under Pope Alexander VI. You’re welcome.
π Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop — Senegalese scholar and Egyptologist, proved via melanin dosage testing, ancient DNA, and linguistic analysis that ancient Egyptians were Black Africans. Even Greek historians like Herodotus said the Egyptians had "woolly hair and black skin."
Now about this lie you told that “countless white inventions were credited to Black people.” That’s not just false—it’s a historical inversion. What actually happened?
π‘ 10 Examples of Black Inventions Stolen, Erased, or Patented by Whites:
Lewis Latimer – improved the carbon filament for the lightbulb (Edison gets all the credit).
Granville T. Woods – invented the multiplex telegraph. Thomas Edison tried to steal credit and lost in court.
Dr. Shirley Jackson – her research led to the development of touch-tone phones, caller ID, and fiber optics.
Garrett Morgan – invented the gas mask and 3-signal traffic light. His patents were licensed by white companies who erased his identity in ads.
Madam C.J. Walker – first self-made female millionaire. Her haircare products were copied by white-owned companies without credit.
Benjamin Banneker – helped design Washington, D.C. and built America’s first clock. His astronomical calculations were plagiarized and erased from early U.S. scientific records.
George Washington Carver – over 300 inventions using peanuts and crops. Yet most people only hear “he made peanut butter” while his patents were stolen and uncredited in white institutions.
Elijah McCoy – his lubrication device for steam engines was so respected that people asked for “The Real McCoy.” Many whites patented knockoffs of his work.
Marie Van Brittan Brown – invented the first home security system. Her design was used by many corporations, without giving her the royalties she deserved.
Frederick McKinley Jones – refrigeration for trucks and trains. White-owned businesses used the tech but erased his name from logistics history.
π Also, look up “The Mismeasure of Man” by Stephen Jay Gould, which exposes how white supremacists rigged IQ tests and pseudoscience to justify Black inferiority—while quietly benefiting from Black innovation and labor.
Now to your Egypt comment:
Sir, how are you going to tell Africans they weren’t African? The Nile Valley Civilizations were African before there was even a Rome or a Greece. You sound like someone who’s never read a single peer-reviewed archaeological paper, but got their info from a History Channel documentary narrated by a dude named Chad.
Egypt wasn’t yours to begin with. You inherited it through conquest and colonization—not because you built it. The ancient statues still have their noses blasted off, and we know why: to hide the broad features that didn’t look European.
So let’s not pretend. Y’all didn’t just steal our labor—you stole our legacy, our libraries, our likenesses, and our land.
π£️ But don't worry—Zephaniah 3:10 says we’re coming back from beyond the rivers of Cush (Africa). Jeremiah 16:19 says the Gentiles will one day confess: “Surely our fathers have inherited lies.”
And that day? Yeah. It’s here.
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
7 days ago
Sir, respectfully…
I see your cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias got you running in spiritual circles like a dog chasing its tail. You're accusing me of being "focused on skin," but completely missing the fact that I’m confronting a lie—a historical, spiritual, and systemic deception.
𧬠Melanin is not just pigment—it is part of God's divine blueprint.
It's not about idolizing creation; it's about exposing the counterfeit that has hijacked it.
Because when you believe a lie about who God created, you begin to believe a lie about who God is.
π Romans 1:25 – "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator."
This is exactly what’s happened. The world has elevated a false image, built doctrines around it, colonized nations under it, and psychologically trained the masses to reject truth when it's presented.
You keep saying it’s “just the soul,” but that’s not scriptural either.
π John 4:24 – “God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth.”
Sir—truth matters. And truth includes accurately identifying what God actually made, not the version manufactured through colonial conquest, Renaissance brushstrokes, and religious propaganda.
If you say it doesn’t matter, then you're disagreeing with the God of Truth who says it does.
π Proverbs 11:1 – “A false balance is abomination to the Lord.”
π Isaiah 5:20 – “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness…”
So no, I’m not worshipping melanin—I’m correcting the inversion.
This is not about color. It’s about counterfeit.
It’s about the spiritual implications of exalting a false image while simultaneously demonizing the original.
π Jeremiah 16:19 – “Our fathers have inherited lies…”
And now you want to preserve those lies in the name of “unity”? That’s not unity—it’s deception with a peace sign.
If your theology requires you to defend the image of the oppressor while rejecting the truth of what God originally made, I suggest you check who’s sitting on the throne of your doctrine—because it might not be the Most High.
So respectfully, this isn’t about black vs. white—this is about truth vs. tradition, spirit vs. system.
And if you can’t see that by now, I can’t help you.
I’ve said what I said. The seeds have been sown.
Selah.
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
7 days ago
YESHUA IS NOT GOD!!!! Oh really???
Where Did Yeshua Say He Was God?
Oh beloved, let’s rightly divide this Word with reverence and receipts because this question is not new—and neither is the ignorance behind it. The Pharisees asked it. The Sadducees fumbled it. And yet, here we are again, asking where Yeshua said the very thing that got Him crucified.
Let’s walk this slow, but bold:
πΉ 1. John 8:58 – "Before Abraham was, I AM."
Yeshua didn’t say “I was,” He said “I AM”—a direct callback to Exodus 3:14, where YAH says to Moses:
“Tell them I AM has sent you.”
The crowd knew exactly what He was claiming—which is why in John 8:59 they picked up stones to kill Him. Not because He was cute with words. Because they knew He was declaring divinity.
πΉ 2. John 1:1–3, 14
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.”
The Word was God. And the Word became Yeshua. There’s no ambiguity—just rebellion to receive.
πΉ 3. 1 Timothy 3:16 – "God was manifested in the flesh…"
No trinity gymnastics here. Paul lays it flat:
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
Only Yeshua fits that profile. Who else was received up in glory and preached to the nations?
πΉ 4. Colossians 1:15–17 – The image of the invisible God
“He is the image of the invisible God… by Him all things were created… and in Him all things hold together.”
You heard that? By Him, through Him, for Him. That’s Creator talk. Not a created being.
πΉ 5. Isaiah 9:6 – "His name shall be called… The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father"
Let’s rewind the scrolls. Isaiah told you exactly who the Son would be:
“For unto us a child is born… and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
How can the Son be called Everlasting Father unless He is one with the Father?
π Pre-Incarnate Appearances of Yeshua – Before the Manger
You want Old Testament? Let’s go time-traveling in the Torah.
πΉ Genesis 18 – YAH appears to Abraham as a man.
Abraham bows down and speaks with “the LORD” (YHWH), who ate food, walked, and spoke judgment. That ain’t just an angel—that’s the pre-incarnate Yeshua.
πΉ Exodus 3 – The Angel of the LORD in the burning bush
“And the Angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire… And God called to him…”
Pause. First He’s the Angel of the LORD. Then He speaks as YAH Himself.
That’s a Christophany—Yeshua before flesh.
πΉ Joshua 5:13–15 – The Commander of the LORD’s army
Joshua bows down and worships Him—and He receives it.
No angel accepts worship.
Only God does. That’s Yeshua.
πΉ Daniel 3:25 – The Fourth Man in the Fire
“The fourth looks like a son of the gods.”
Nebuchadnezzar saw Him, and so did the three Hebrew boys. The One who walks in the fire is the One who would one day walk through hell to save us.
π Final Word: He Didn’t Just Say It—He Proved It
Yeshua didn’t come to play Pharisee games. He didn’t just say He was God—
He healed the sick, raised the dead, forgave sins, and received worship.
And only God has the authority to forgive sins (Mark 2:5–12).
So let’s stop pretending Yeshua has to say “I am God” in 21st-century English to validate His divinity when He walked, spoke, and fulfilled everything that YAH prophesied about Himself.
π Yeshua is the visible image of the invisible God.
π₯ The Word made flesh.
π‘ The Arm of YAH revealed.
π The LORD of the Sabbath.
⚖ The Judge of the living and the dead.
π And one day, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Yeshua is LORD—to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:10–11).
Let the record show—He didn’t just say it.
He lived it. Fulfilled it. Proved it. And reigns in it.
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
7 days ago
Sis, I deeply appreciate your heart and how you're seeking truth out of a place of love and honor—not obligation. You are absolutely right in pointing out that the Most High set divine patterns not to punish us, but to preserve us.
His laws were always about protection, not punishment. And yes, the Feasts and the Sabbath were never random rituals—they were prophetic blueprints pointing straight to Yeshua.
But let’s go ahead and rightly divide the Word and take it even deeper so we don’t just sit at the surface of symbolism, but understand the full spiritual significance and New Covenant fulfillment.
π THE SABBATH: FULFILLED IN YESHUA, OUR TRUE REST
You're correct that Sabbath was established at creation (Genesis 2:2–3) and reiterated in the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8–11). But here's the revelation: Yeshua didn’t just keep the Sabbath—He IS the Sabbath.
“Come unto me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” — Matthew 11:28
“For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.” — Matthew 12:8
The Sabbath was a shadow—but Yeshua is the substance (Colossians 2:16–17). The real rest God was pointing to wasn’t just about a seventh day—it was about ceasing from our own works and entering into His finished work. ( Bunny trail: since the enemy has changed ged the times, calendars, seasons and even names for the day, it would be very difficult for all of humanity to truly honor a physical day).
“There remains a Sabbath-rest for the people of God... for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from His.” — Hebrews 4:9–10
See, the flesh could never fulfill the law. Romans 8:3 says it clearly:
“What the law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son…”
That’s why Yeshua had to come—not to abolish the law (Matthew 5:17), but to fulfill it—because our corrupted flesh was incapable of doing so. As it’s written:
“There is none righteous, no not one...” — Romans 3:10
That’s why we’re told in Romans 8:1–4 to walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Because the flesh is condemned—it will not be redeemed until we are transformed in the twinkling of an eye (1 Corinthians 15:52). Only then will we receive our glorified, incorruptible bodies. Until then? We lean not on our flesh—but on His Spirit and His righteousness.
π YESHUA'S RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOW OURS
“He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.” — 2 Corinthians 5:21
This is not about performance. It’s about position. We don’t strive to earn righteousness—we receive it by faith and walk it out by His Spirit. That is the rest the Sabbath pointed to. We rest from striving, because He already did the work.
π THE FEASTS: SHADOWS OF YESHUA, FULFILLED IN HIM
Sis, you are on point in recognizing that the Feasts were prophetic and protective. But again, let's rightly divide it. The Feasts were shadows—and every single one pointed to Messiah:
Passover – He is the Lamb of God (John 1:29)
Unleavened Bread – His sinless body was buried
First Fruits – He rose as the firstfruits of those who will rise (1 Cor. 15:20)
Pentecost (Shavuot) – The Spirit was poured out (Acts 2)
Trumpets – Points to His return
Atonement (Yom Kippur) – His blood atones eternally (Hebrews 9:12)
Tabernacles – God with us, to be fulfilled in the New Earth
But here's the key: fulfillment doesn’t mean we ignore them—it means we understand their deeper meaning in Christ. It’s not about performing rituals to be righteous—it’s about recognizing how He completed the assignment, and honoring Him because of that.
π HEBREWS 9 – THE PRIESTHOOD SHIFT, NOT THE MORAL LAW REMOVED
You hit on Hebrews 9, and you’re absolutely right—Yeshua didn’t do away with holiness or obedience. What He fulfilled was the Levitical system—the priesthood and sacrifices.
“But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come... not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all...” — Hebrews 9:11–12
No more yearly sacrifices. No more earthly tabernacle. The priesthood was elevated from the order of Levi to the order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 7:11–17). That was the shift. Not a cancellation of righteousness—but a new and better covenant, written on our hearts (Jeremiah 31:33, Hebrews 10:16).
⚔️ THE MILLENNIUM: WHEN REBELLION STILL HIDES IN THE HEART
Now here’s the part most folks miss. During the Millennium, Scripture says:
“And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations... shall go up... to worship the King, the Lord of Hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.” — Zechariah 14:16
That’s not optional—they must honor the King. But why?
Because the children born during the Millennium will be living under a perfect King in a redeemed earth—but they will still be in flesh. They weren’t resurrected or transformed—they were born in the flesh during His reign.
And even under perfect rule, with no devil roaming at first—they still obey outwardly but not all have a changed heart. That’s why Revelation 20 says:
“After the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released... and deceive the nations...” — Revelation 20:7–9
So again—it’s never been about ritual. It’s always been about relationship. The enemy can’t be cast out by ceremony—only by covenant.
π§πΎ♀️SO, WHAT’S THE REAL QUESTION?
The question isn’t “do I have to keep the Sabbath?”
The question is: do I trust the one who fulfilled it?
Do I rest in Him because I believe His work is enough?
Do I honor the Feasts because I recognize the beauty of the blueprint—and worship the one who embodied it?
Do I obey because I love Him, not because I’m afraid of missing a step?
“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.” — John 14:15
We obey from love, not legalism. From surrender, not self-effort. Because our hearts have been softened, not because we fear punishment.
Sis, you’re on the right track—and you are asking the right questions. Just remember: we don’t keep the Feasts or Sabbath to be saved—we honor them because the Savior lives inside of us.
We don’t obey from fear—we obey from faith.
Let’s keep pointing people back to the one who fulfilled it all, and reminding them:
Yeshua isn’t just the pattern—He’s the purpose.
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
7 days ago
"Yeshua is created. He is the firstborn! " WRONG.
Beloved, I appreciate your sincerity and willingness to wrestle with the Word—but let’s lovingly walk this out rightly dividing Scripture (2 Timothy 2:15), line upon line, precept upon precept (Isaiah 28:10).
You said, “God had to bring Jesus into existence.” That’s a common misunderstanding when reading verses like “firstborn” without full context or awareness of the Hebrew and Greek frameworks.
Let’s break this down.
π Firstborn Doesn’t Mean First Created.
The word “firstborn” (prototokos in Greek) as used in Colossians 1:15:
“He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation…”
The term prototokos (ΟΟΟΟΟΟΞΏΞΊΞΏΟ) is a position of rank, preeminence, and inheritance—not chronology. It's not saying He was created first—it's saying He ranks above all creation.
Same as in Psalm 89:27:
“I will make him the firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth.”
That’s David—who wasn’t even the oldest. But God gave him position.
So in Jewish understanding, “firstborn” is about legal inheritance, authority, and status, not about origin. That’s why Jacob (the younger) received the “firstborn” blessing over Esau.
π₯ Yeshua Was NOT Created. He Is Eternal.
Let’s be clear: Yeshua (Jesus) was not “brought into existence.” The Scriptures testify He already existed with the Father from the beginning and even before time itself.
π John 1:1–3:
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made through Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made.”
How can “all things” be made through Him if He Himself was made? That would make Him a created being creating Himself—illogical and not supported by Scripture.
π Micah 5:2 (speaking of the Messiah to be born in Bethlehem):
“...whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting.”
(Hebrew: ΧִΧΧֵΧ Χ’ΧֹΧָΧ – “from days of eternity”)
Yeshua wasn’t created—He was manifested in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). That’s the mystery of godliness.
π Colossians 1:16-17 puts the nail in the coffin:
“For by Him all things were created… all things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.”
How can He be created and “before all things”? Again—He wasn’t made. He is. Period.
π‘ So sis, what you’re wrestling with is a misinterpretation of biblical titles due to lack of understanding of the full context, original language, and covenant framework. That’s why we’re told to rightly divide—not just read isolated verses.
Yeshua is not the first creation. He is the eternal Word, coexistent with the Father, who put on flesh (John 1:14), and through whom the world was made.
So no—God didn’t “bring Him into existence.” He already was, is, and is to come (Revelation 1:8).
Let’s continue to sharpen each other in truth. Iron sharpens iron. π‘️
#TruthOverTradition #YeshuaIsEternal #HeWasNotCreated #RightlyDivide #SpiritRevealsTruth
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
13 days ago (edited)
Beloved, let me pause you right there in the spirit of truth and love.
Because what you’ve said — that God is somehow pro-slavery — is not only improper exegesis, it’s an outright misrepresentation of the Most High’s character and the arc of His Word.
π First, understand this:
The Bible is not a fairy tale.
It’s a historical record — a raw, often brutal documentary of humanity’s sins, failures, rebellions, and the consequences that followed.
It doesn’t sanitize humanity’s depravity; it records it.
That means when you see slavery, genocide, incest, betrayal — you’re seeing the reality of fallen man, not the endorsement of a holy God.
π₯ Now let’s rightly divide the Word:
God condemns kidnapping and slave trade outright.
π Exodus 21:16
“Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death.”
So let’s make it plain:
That means the entire transatlantic slave trade was an abomination punishable by death under God’s law.
God identifies Himself repeatedly as the deliverer from slavery.
π Exodus 20:2
“I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.”
π Deuteronomy 7:8
“Because the LORD loved you… and redeemed you from the house of slavery, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.”
He takes slavery personally — He literally calls Himself the One who breaks chains and sets captives free.
The entire mission of the Messiah, Yeshua, was to proclaim liberty.
π Luke 4:18 (quoting Isaiah 61)
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent Me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free…”
✋ And let’s deal with the false narrative about “slaves obey your masters.”
Those were instructions to people living under the Roman system — where over 30% of the population were bondservants, many voluntarily (like modern indentured workers). Paul gave pastoral advice for how to live under oppressive regimes — not a divine endorsement of man-made bondage.
If God was “pro-slavery,” why would Paul then write:
π 1 Corinthians 7:21
“Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you — although if you can gain your freedom, do so.”
π©Έ The ultimate evidence?
God constantly uses slavery language to describe freedom in Him:
π Romans 6:22
“But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.”
He flips the whole paradigm. The only “slavery” God endorses is a willing, love-bound servanthood to Him — a slavery that actually liberates from sin and death.
π So beloved, please don’t confuse God’s recorded history of dealing with sinful humanity for His endorsement of their sins.
The Bible records polygamy, child sacrifice, and slavery — but it also shows how God judged nations for these very things.
His heart is always deliverance.
His commandments upheld human dignity, protected the vulnerable, and pointed toward ultimate emancipation through Messiah.
Don’t project the wicked systems of man onto a holy God.
Study His entire Word, in context — from Genesis to Revelation — and you’ll see a consistent theme:
A God who frees captives, breaks yokes, and destroys oppression.
Because the same God who thundered,
π “Let My people go!” (Exodus 9:1)
has never changed.
π So my prayer for you:
May the scales fall from your eyes.
May you see Him not through the distortions of colonial misuse of Scripture, but through the revelation of His Spirit and His Word rightly divided.
Because whom the Son sets free is free indeed (John 8:36).
Selah.
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Freedom In Yeshua Ministries
2 weeks ago
Oh bless your theological heart, Manuel, but you’re parroting exactly what whitewashed Christianity packaged up and sold to keep believers passive, docile, and unprepared. Let me graciously untangle this.
1️⃣ Scripture refutes a pre-trib “rapture.”
The only catching away (harpazo) is AFTER the tribulation, not before it. Yeshua himself said it plain as day:
✍️ “Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days… they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send his angels… and they will gather his elect…”
(Matthew 24:29-31)
Paul confirms this sequence:
✍️ *“Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you… that you not be quickly shaken… for *that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.”
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-4)
So before the gathering (so-called “rapture”), the Antichrist is revealed. That means believers are still here.
2️⃣ Your Noah comparison actually works against pre-trib doctrine.
Noah went through the flood — God preserved him in the midst of judgment.
Israel endured the plagues of Egypt while protected in Goshen.
Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were in the fire, with Christ appearing among them.
Same pattern: God’s people are kept in the storm, not whisked away.
3️⃣ Tribulation is not God’s wrath.
The tribulation is Satan’s wrath against the saints (Revelation 12:12, 17).
God’s wrath comes later in the bowls (Revelation 16) — after the resurrection and catching away.
4️⃣ Revelation explicitly says the saints are still on earth during tribulation.
✍️ “It was given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.”
(Revelation 13:7)
✍️ “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.”
(Revelation 14:12)
So if the saints are gone, who’s the dragon fighting? Who’s patiently enduring?
π¨ Bottom line:
There is no secret pre-trib escape hatch. That doctrine was invented in the 1800s by John Nelson Darby and popularized by Scofield’s Bible — a scheme of dispensational theology that Rome and her Freemason buddies loved, because it made sure believers would do nothing to stand against Antichrist systems now.
The real gospel calls us to endure, overcome, and be refined — not run. That’s why Yeshua said:
✍️ “He who endures to the end shall be saved.” (Matthew 24:13)
ππ½ **So brother — if you truly want eyes to see, crack your Bible without Scofield’s footnotes. Pray for the Holy Spirit to un-teach the doctrines of men. Because if we’re to follow the pattern of Noah, it means building our ark (faith, obedience, holiness) now, to withstand what’s coming — not expecting a helicopter evacuation before the rain falls.
If you want, I can walk you through even deeper receipts in Revelation’s timeline. Let me know. π―
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