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Even in the USA, where we're 13% of the population and have been herre for four centuries, you can find parts of the country where there are few Blacks.. The Black European presence on a SIZEABLE scale is a pretty recent phenomenon. I believe Attai wrote that there were only about 2000 Blacks living in France before WWII. But the world is changing. SOME parts of Europe may indeed develop a sizeable Black presence even though other parts of Europe will not.

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I believe it was the controversial comedian Bill Maher who said that the Democrats have moved to the right, and the Repuhlicans into an insane asylum. Bill Clinton represented the so-called "new Democrat" who spurned the more liberal politics of the 1960s and the New Deal.. The Republicans, however, are so far to the right as to be virtually a Fascist party. But you can trust either party but so much. Both part used to have a right, left and center. And there was a time when the Republicans were further to the left than the Democrats. (Karl Marx was a supporter of Abe Lincoln & Reconstruction). Today, there are no progressives in the Republican Party, and you can count them on one hand among the Democrats. Renewal of American political life must be provoked by democratic popular insurgencies within the citizenry. Progressive change must be instigated by progressive movements, as happened previously in our history with Abolitionist, Labor & Black liberation movements. By the way, you should notice an interesting pattern on the part of your interlocutor Assdurratin. He obviously prefers the most RIGHT WING of limited political choices the corporate system offers us--which means the Republicans in today's politics. Notice something else. In this thread he is mainly on the side of notorious racists and reactionaries like Max, Lunarblitz and Aisling. In a thread called "Islam and the Black Race" he was singing the praises of STALIN. If he weren't Black he'd be singing Hitler's praises. I've suspected for some time that Christian and Muslim fundamentalists have a lot in common with each other, and with racism and fascism.

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I don't know how MOST Black Brazilians look upon their African ancestry, but there have been cultural studies, historical and anthropological studies, which indicate that African cultural forms (even in the lnaguage) is more weighty than among American Blacks.(And even among us scholar like the author of THE MYTH OF THE NEGRO PAST SHOW THAT A GREATER DEGREE OF aFRICAN CULTURE HAS PERSISTED THAN MOST PEOPLE KNOW).
As for how people FEEL about their African cultural roots, that has more to do with the shape of their political and cultural cosciousness.
From things that I've read and Black Brazilians whom I've met, I suspect there is a greater identification with African among Brazilians than you suspect. But I cannot know for sure whether among 100+ millions Black Brazilians.
I happen to be one of the American Blacks who do identify with Africa, not only because of any cultural connection. But also from an awareness of a common struggle for the liberation of Black people everywhere, and the defeat of imperialism and racism.
In that respect, I belong to the tradition of Malcolm X, CLR James,Amilcar Cabral, Fanon and others.
In part I learned this from my mother, who grew up in the Jim Crow era, and kept up on African liberationn movements, the fate of Lumumba, Movement in America, etc.
That's why I find so silly the the squabbling between underdeveloped Africans, African-Americans and others.

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Barros Serrano wrote:

Yes, however, in today's environment we cannot expect a Vietnam War sort of movement nor civil rights.
I'm thinking one good way to deal with this is get it to the attention of Obama, and I mean in a public way, have him confronted about it. Force people to talk about it... Mr. President, what about Guatemala??? How about doing something? It being election time, we might be able to leverage Obama into some action.

As this is a grave human rights issue, Obama's hand ought to be forced on this issue for as long as he is president. As far as I know, he's not actively supporting the Central American fascists as Reagan did. But theree is such a thing as the complicity of silence.
Some suggestions which may or may not be useful depending on the circimstances in the region of NM where you live:
Find out if there are solidarity movements or organizations dealing with Central American human rights issues. Support them in any way you can and urge them to present the issue at Obama's doorstep.
A large Mexican or other Latin population commonly means the presence and influence of the Catholic Church. Are there progressive Catholic priests, nuns, laypersons or even a progressive CAtholic parish that would be willing to help you organize something by way of a petition to local, state and federal government to address this issue? Id Clergy and Laity Concerned present out there? They're an interdenominational religious group which sponsored King's famous address against the Vietnam War. I had occasion to work with them around issues of apartheid while I was a student at Vandy in Tennessee.
Perhaps the progreessive caucus within the Democratic party--a left leadning element in the Party with sizeable Latin, Black, white, Jewish mix--can be prevailed upon to put the Guatemala issue front and center. Or at least keep the issue alive at national level. Is the Occupy Movement present where you are? Perhaps in their demos against the evils of the American plutocracy they can be prevailed upon to address Guatemala as s deeply related issue.(Interests of American plutocracy in promoting fascism abroad ought to be part of the Movement's discourse anyway).
I don't know what options are available to you where you are. But use whatever is available. And in appealing to people kindly avoid showering them with all that anger. Anger shoud be directed against fascists and plutocrats, not against ordinary "Yanks" whom you hope to win to your side. Don't defeat the purpose--the noble goal of advancing human rights--by the manner in which you approach people


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Barros Serrano wrote:

Right. Exactly. That is what has to be done.
Bill Clinton
sat on his hands as the Rwanda outrage progressed. Later he apologized... how about let's not have to apologize next time?
The gutless EUROPEANS did nothing for several years while Bosnia went down, finally it was Clinton who pushed in to stop it. Then Clinton goes and bombs Serbia... stupid move, but here we go again, more dead for nothing.
Cambodia---I can scarcely find the words for the disgust I feel for the global apathy who watched this go on, until FINALLY the Vietnamese went in and removed Pol Pot, but even they NEXTDOOR had done nothing for several years.
I was the transcriber for a newsletter produced by Ugandan students in the USA at the time Amin was deposed. I was in the room crowded with them, typing what they were excitedly telling me, as they jumped up and down yelling,“God bless Tanzania! God bless Julius Nyerere!”, because the Tanzanian army had finally gone into Uganda and put an end to Amin's hell. You cannot imagine how it felt to be among that much energy, to see the faces of people whose own people back home had just been liberted from the kind of terror I describe for Guatemala. I feel like I was a little minuscule piece of Ugandan history that day, as I was doing the technical work to get out the word for these Ugandans, and the whole thing I will never forget.
How good to see it end! Why won't it end in Guatemala?

Are you connected with Amnesty International? American parochialism is a serious problem, and people often do not see the commonness of common struggles. I'm trying to encourage friends in the Occupy Movement to think globally while acting locally. I will be involved in a number os speaking engagements this year in connection with the appearance of my new book on Dr. King.
I want to stress not only the democratic social radicalism of King, but his international perspective. The fight against plutocracy and racism are intertwined, but also global.
Jesse Jackson and Ben Chavis, to their credit, denounced the US backed carnage in Central America. Prior to then global imperialism and murder in Vietnam, Africa and Latin America were denounced by Malcolm X, Dr. King and others. This legacy must be revived. The question is how to effectively organize and educate the public. Too bad Topix generally and AA Forum in particular has no real forum.

-Savant

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Define "of significant worth." I have a major problem when I hear Black people claim that other races (especially whites) get the "best" among us. I will dispute that to the end of time. I, for one, have never dissed any decent Black men. Of course defining "decent" is needed: No thugs. No drugs. No misogynists. No abusers. No users. No arrogance. No pretenders. No status-quo defenders. No "other"-lovers. No social apathy. No religious manipulators. If a man fits that bill, he is decent. If you recognize there are good and bad Black men, then you'd have to recognize the same reality among Black women. My take?: If you are a Black person who sees yourself as a"good catch" and has ever expressed concern about the survival of the race family/community, then you should have been focusing on attracting the good, instead of being distracted by the weak-minded ones. If you didn't find that, either you lied about who you were or you were never looking. Good riddance to you.

-Philosophia

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DICE | August 1st, 2012 at 07:03
“The Butler”?
Cuba was born to play this role.
They ought to find a way to say “Show Me Da Money” while tap dancing.


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DICE Reply:
August 1st, 2012 at 07:18
Dont forget “The Help” and “Monsters Ball”
Lets be honest…NEITHER of these films are worthy of any Awards for any reason….The only reason why these films got awards is for the content matter, which is re-colonizing the minds of black people and making being a slave and a whore cool….It makes white folks feel all warm and fuzzy inside and it kills the spirit of young and impressionable black children.
Its a win-win for Mr Charley

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Tekah18 hours agoin reply to Vanity357

Vanity, they seldom question statements by their news media. Faux News is good for GROSS exaggeration. There is an article abt Rush hamburger (I know the FOOL's last name) and he is
telling his racist listeners he knows the mind of African Americans.

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BPP19 hours ago

I clearly recall that when I first heard about Tasers and their effects and that PIGS/police wanted clearance to carry the devices ....it came with the promise ..."Well,...we will only be using these as an ALTERNATIVE to deadly force"
BLACK people had reservations and concerns about potential abuses and the police assured BLACK People that would not be the case.
Now TASERS are used for EVERYTHING...walking too slow ZAP....asked why?...ZAP.....not being arrested with a smile on your BLACK face....ZAP....you say you didn't do it ...ZAP...what's that you say,...can't breathe?....ZAP ZAP ZAP ZAP.
Maybe this "PIG professional" felt threatened by the big bad 12 year old girl and had to use deadly force...but was actually doing her a favor by not using his gun. ( White People always see it that way).. Remember point 7:
We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people.We believe we can end police brutality in our black community by organizing black self-defense groups that are dedicated to defending our black community from racist police oppression and brutality. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all black people should arm themselves for self defense.

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edud0117 hours ago

Rush Li____ is the "gatekeeper" of white supremacy in this country. His main job is to remind old whites and indoctrinate young ones, on their god given "rights" and "specialness" as pale creatures. Mixed in with his genuine hate of Blacks is the desire to "control" females, especailly white women. White men LOVE him and he makes PLENTY of money off them.


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Thomas Johnson17 hours ago

Before Rush comes on the radio people forget that he has to look at himself in the mirror in the morning. When you factor that in, it makes sense why he spews so much hate and venum over the air.

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Sandra Partridge20 hours ago

Rush Limbaugh is expressing his frustrations, envy, and rage towards President Obama for being more fortunate as far as intelligence, leadership abilities, healing capacity, and respect. Also Rush Limbaugh feels so embarrassed by Mitt Romney's mental deficiencies, that he can't contain his rage for supporting the biggest GOP embarrassment since George Bush.

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jay12 hours ago

Only in America can a racist clown like this be worth over $250 mil. Most of it came through his deal with Clear channel which his show is on. I don't know why the media other than fox news, pays attention to this klan member. If you put a bunch of black folks around him on a daily basis, he's won't even think of have the crap he says. Because he know he'll get his behind handed to him.

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crammasters
@ sepultura13
I used to spend hours dialoguing (battling) with whites over racism and I was amazed at how they refused to see what I know they had to see
That’s when it dawned on me that they (white people) don’t see the benefits of “seeing” or “telling” the truth about racism — and that the vast majority are dedicated to maintaining this system of white privilege/white supremacy.
That meant (to me) that I had to stop wasting my time trying to convince white people of anything and spend more time understanding this system and trying to reach other black people about that understanding.
It is time (in my opinion) that black people stop hoping and praying and working so hard to change the hearts of white people and face the fact that they have a huge hole in their hearts and spirits when it comes to anyone who is not white.
there is too much evidence out here for any of us to believe otherwise

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CourtneyR2 days agoin reply to Dandelion

Thank you Dandelion. Can't erase truth ,no matter how hard society tries.I just wish more black girls and females could understand their beauty and how its envied. Instead, it was turned back against us.I mean, you have to be a real dummy to not see the propaganda against black beauty and especially dark skin women like Kenya Moore, Keisha knight Pulliam, and those of us that have this skin tone.I will say, I understand what she tried to do by giving these characters browner skin.I mean ,the more black girls see themselves and their skin tone, the more they will see that their is nothing wrong with it..after all, it is a start.what's crazy is, black women come in all types of skin tones to features from broader noses, lips to big eyes , long natural hair ,short hair to thinner lips ,voluptuous ,skinny ,petite,curly, straight,,thick ,thin hair etc. no other race of women do you have so many different varieties .what is absolutely insane is, you have many black males who share the same context in features and skin tone, and will talk about a black woman's beauty like a dog as if it were the ugliest thing ever. In essence, these males are saying that they hate themselves.Its not rocket science, when society continues this assault on black women and our beauty, they are trying to prevent us from knowing and seeing something about ourselves. that we are indeed extremely beautiful creatures and for every ad that comes out against us, we aught to counter those same stereotypes with our own positive ones.They are trying to keep their men and all men away from us. smh.. All women all beautiful no matter the race, but when they try their hardest to leave you out of that club, they are in essence threatened by you. so do the opposite, don't be loud, don't be ignorant, by all means, don't be silent either when tackling real issues head on.but don't give others a reason to use you against you.It's all in how you deal with a threat that shuts that threat up in it's tracks.So ,embrace how GOD made you,because their is nothing wrong with you. Black girls rock :)

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FreeBLACKman80411 hours ago

Serena delivered a SUPREME BEAT DOWN on that girl .. And the best part was the fact that she STARRED HER DOWN after every point. If the Williams sisters were white, they would get the proper love and respect that they deserve.

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Voice Of Truth7 hours ago

Congratulations to Serena Williams and Gabby Douglas for representing African American women in a positive light. We're proud of both of them.

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Tekah8 hours agoin reply to FreeBLACKman804

The Black community is behind them 100percent! I am sure there are other up and coming
young Black tennis players ENCOURAGED more than ever...... thanks to these gifted women
and other Black ppl who have excelled in greatness!

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BlackHeywood27 minutes ago

Today Both sisters showed the world where they came from:
Serena Williams teamed with big sister Venus to win the women's doubles title at the Olympics on Sunday, adding to the singles gold she won on Centre Court at Wimbledon a day earlier.The American sisters beat Andrea Hlavackova and Lucie Hradecka of the Czech Republic 6-4, 6-4 under the roof on a rainy afternoon at the All England Club. Venus – with her red, white and blue braids pulled back into a bun – closed out the match with a backhand volley winner after the Czechs saved a pair of match points.
Holla!

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FreeBLACKman80443 minutes agoin reply to Tekah

I agree. The Black community has always been behind the Williams sisters. But for some reason, the national media will NOT give them the credit that they deserve. I keep hearing B S like " Serena and Venus are Good but not among the all time great female tennis players" . I think that is pure foolishness .

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Originally Posted by chacha2012

I just wanted to add my two cents, now I am by no means a physiology major but I will say that I feel very connected to the sun, I feel rejuvenated when I am in direct sun light and warmth...I fell like thats what I was made for. That God created us to bask in the sun and in nature. That we are a special people.... I hope that doesnt sound nuts but thats how I feel. I feel my best in warm and sunny weather. I dont think Blacks were ment to be in cold weather, it works against us and that when we got tainted with the yt blood we inherited their sickness and weakness.
-A Person

Thanks for this thread and all the posts, I still have much to learn on the topic.

You're not crazy. That's the point I was trying to make about sunscreen. Black people in the South were fine working outside in 100+ weather with no problem. That's why we were able to sustain the heat better than the Native Americans and the Europeans KNEW that. That's why we were so valuable to them. All of a suddent black people have skin cancer and skin issues? I really think we started messing up our bodies trying to listen to all this white doctors and experts who don't know our body chemistry is very special. The sun gives you nutrients as a black person. That's what they won't tell you. If you must use sun protection, at least go organic and use something with green tea in it. Green tea is a natural sun protector...I think mango butter is also.

-A Person
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FreeBLACKman8041 day agoin reply to sirsurfer

Black men "FLOCK" to white women? Really? I THINK NOT. Most of us want a BLACK WOMAN. AND ONLY A BLACK WOMAN!!!!!!!!!

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crammasters
@ AJ — who said: “Ok wow, to the guy who said racism is an inherent genetic and psychological illness in whites, you disgust me. I’m not white, nor have any special love for them, but saying that someone is destined to be a certain way because of their genes is RACIST. You didn’t imply it, you plainly stated it.”
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#1 — something about the way you said “I’m not white…” makes me suspect you might be a white person (but that’s just my intuition talking, i could be wrong)
#2 — I stated what I believe is true. Let me clarify my statement
when it comes to racism and non-white people — whites appear to have an INHERENT, GENETIC tendency to lie, mistreat, rape and murder ANY and EVERYONE who is not white. The history of white people over the last 500+ years bears that out.
I agree with Dr. Frances Cress Welsing who said:
“…because of their “numerical inadequacy” and “color inferiority,” white people may have defensively developed “an uncontrollable sense of hostility and aggression” towards people of color, which has led to “confrontations” between the races throughout history. Repressing their own feelings of inadequacy, whites “set about evolving a social, political, and economic structure to give blacks and other ‘non-whites’ the appearance of being inferior.”
#3 — from what I have seen, when it comes to non-white people, it is one lie after another, it’s lying about “discovering America,” lying about Native Americans being savages while whites were murdering, raping, stealing and committing genocide against Native Americans. The same is true about non-white people from Africans (the Transatlantic slave trade, American slavery, white imperialism, white colonialism, Elvis Presley imitating black people, to Creole (black slave) cooking transformed into (white) Cajun cooking, to American music pretending it didn’t come from black R&B, jazz and the blues, to calling collagen enhanced white female lips the “Paris lip” instead of admitting they want lips, breasts, and buttocks like our black women have,
to today, where Europeans are attacking, murdering and stealing from Africa, to killing the leader of Libya and pretending his own people did it,
to Australia’s aboriginals who were raped, murdered, and robbed of their country and their children (google the “Stolen Generation)
from the atom bomb that was dropped on Japan, the napalming of Vietnam, Katrina in the US where black people stranded on roofs for 4 days then robbed of their right to reclaim their land to the police murders of countless unarmed black men, women AND CHILDREN,
to people like Lara and the countless white trolls who refuse to admit what they know is true: that white people individually AND collectively, mistreat and benefit from mistreating people who are not white. White people KNOW this is true and white people KNOW what other white people say and do when there are no black people in the room. They KNOW their relatives, friends, coworkers and bed partners talk negatively about black people.
They KNOW that the black people on their jobs are treated unfairly and don’t get the kind of credit or promotions that white people get. They know this because it’s the average, ordinary white person who decides whether a black person gets that job, that loan, that promotion, that traffic ticket (or a pass), or a guilty verdict in the courtroom as a defendant or whether a white cop gets an innocent verdict after shooting an unarmed black man 41 times.
It’s the average, ordinary white person that keeps the hell going for millions of non-white people on the planet because without that support the system of white supremacy would self-destruct.
#3 — Again, and again and again (to the point of exhaustion), black people cannot be racist, and cannot practice racism because racism is NOT expressing an opinion as a powerless (black) person, racism is action, words , thoughts and deeds based on having institutions and SYSTEMS in place that will back up those thoughts, words, and deeds.
you can all me a lot of things, but as a black person, the one thing i will never answer to is “racist”
I make no apologies for telling the truth about the documented actions of white people on this planet — and I could care less who is offended by that — no disrespect intended.

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Dandelion2 days ago

Let's take a journey back to slavery (I know y'all but bare with me for a sec...LOL).
Slave owners would actually leave their European wives in plush comfortable beds to go to filthy slave quarters to RAPE Black women. Yes, Black women with natural hair, dark skin, full lips and curvy figures. Now, with the help of the media, some of us have been brainwashed to believe in the European standard of beauty. Yes, the standard of the Europeans who couldn't keep their paws off Black women. Even our Brothers have embraced this nonsense. So called Black male musicians rarely feature natural Black beauties in their videos. Being descendants of slaves, I would think that WE would use our freedom to accept our natural selves. But no, some of us would rather use our freedom to promote MENTAL SLAVERY. It's an abominable shame.
I agree with Ms. West. Changing the hue does very little in promoting our TOTAL natural beauty.

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Dandelion1 day agoin reply to dcblackman

So in your opinion, if Caucasians want to depict Black men and Black women in demoralizing ways, we should shut up, or make our own shows? So when Italians complained about the Jersey Shore, they didn't have the right to because the show creators weren't Italian? Bottom line, WE have the right to complain (whine and cry) about negative stereotypes regardless of the race of entertainment bigwigs.


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Dandelion2 days agoin reply to sirsurfer

Sorry to burst your bubble, but MOST Black men are with Black women. There is no MASS EXODUS, only a few misguided FOOLS.
Oh and Black abusers don't discriminate. I lived above a MIXED couple once, and that Black guy treated that Caucasian woman like utter garbage. I actually felt sorry for her. She was such a sweetheart.

Love and Respect

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Note by Me: My older brother and I agree with every single word Dr. King said in the first video indeed.

By Timothy

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Did you know the tradition of wearing your wedding ring/engagement ring on your left hand on the fourth finger started in ancient egypt (Kemet)....

This was done because the ancient egyptians knew that a certain vein ran from the ring finger to the heart...

This vein is called the "vena amoris" which is latin which literally means "vein of love"

The ring itself is/was to represent the unbroken bond between the husband and wife...originally, the wedding was a very serious ritual in ancient egypt...not as serious as it is today...

Our ancestors knew what love trully was about...they held no bars when it came to expressing they're love for one another

Here's a love letter written to Queen Nefertiti from Pharaoh Akhnaten (her husband)....

"The heiress great in favour, lady of grace, sweet of love,mistress of the south and north, fair of face, gay of two plumes, beloved of the living aten, the chief wife of the king whom he loves, lady of the two lands, Great of love, Nefertiti, Living forever and ever"....
-Akhnaten, to Queen Nefertiti

This is BLACK love...may it reign forever, and ever....


I am very much in love right now...more than I ever have...

I made this thread to show people that black love does exist whether its from ancient times or present day...

I'm with a wonderful man (black man) who loves me dearly...our love for one another is very strong and powerful...he is my everything, and I'm his everything...


-GiRLTeAcHOn

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vampiYAH stabB wrote:

Actually, I have heard of the "vena amoris", and why the wedding ring was adorned around that particular finger. However, I was not aware that any of this had its origins in ancient Kimmet.
Thank you for sharing this!

You're welcome brother :)..but yes, we (blacks) started this tradition in ancient kemet, there are many things we've came up with that are hidden from public...


-Girlteachon


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Yeah it is. 

I am engaged to a beautiful Somali sister and I can't wait for that day where I look into her eyes and tell her why I am the luckiest man to walk this earth. That day when both my loving parents (who've been married for 35 years now) smile at me for continuing the tradition. 

Black love never died, and continue until eternity. 

Then I can join my other siblings who are all married.


-Roobie


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Yeah it is. 

I am engaged to a beautiful Somali sister and I can't wait for that day where I look into her eyes and tell her why I am the luckiest man to walk this earth. That day when both my loving parents (who've been married for 35 years now) smile at me for continuing the tradition. 

Black love never died, and continue until eternity. 

Then I can join my other siblings who are all married.


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the bloods and crips were started by teenaged black youth trying to emulate the Black Panthers. They lacked maturity and education. Turning on one another is nothing more the self-hatred that had been instilled in us after hundreds of years of slavery ( Willie Lynch Letter ). When there was a blood and crip truce, I didn't see the politicians really rallying around them and rewarding them with scholarships, jobs, etc.

2012lacruz 

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4:47 - That's actual footage of Ronald Reagan, the chief fascist himself. A man who funded right-wing governments in El Salvador and Guatemala, both of whom were responsible for the murder of thousands of their respective countrymen. Unsurprisingly, Ronald Reagan called one of these butchers --- Guatemala's Rios Montt -- a "man who had the best interests of the Guatemalan people at heart."

This is what fascists do: Murder. Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, Reagan: The fascist scum cadre.

bapyou 1 year ago 

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Mari-Djata April 10, 2012

I certainly do not believe that Black can ever be considered beautiful as long as Africans continue to identify with any colonial power structure and walk the boundaries set by eurocentric thought. How can it be as long as Black children want to grow up to be lawyers, police officiers, and president of this devilish system? How can it be when grown a___ Black people in the US who should know better want to be American? How can it be when Africans around the world identify with colonial borders such as Nigerian, Jamaican, Brazilian, etc? These are not just physical territorial demarcations set by our former and current slave owners, but it is a literal boundary on our train of thought as African people around the world. This boundary disallows the thought of “Black is Beautiful.” We must set ourselves outside of this cage before we can think such thoughts without it being some commodifying, sellable object than a liberation ideology. So, coming back to your article, I would say that as long as the concept of “our country” is in our heads when speaking of America, then we are already losing in whatever we are trying to do in our communities.

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Posted by Nixakliel

Mar 28 2012 - 1:32pm

- Fact: Trayvon was unarmed when Zimmerman shot him.
- Fact Trayvon weighed about 140-lbs while Zimmerman weighs about 250-lbs
- Fact: Trayvon was staying w his father & his dad fiancee's home which was in the same neighborhood- when he went to the nearby 7-11 store for candy & ice-tea.
- Fact: Trayvon was returning back to his father's house when this fatal confrontation began to unfold.
- Fact: Zimmerman followed Trayvon even though he was specifically told by the 911 dispatcher NOT To!
- Fact: According to Trayvon's girl-friend who he called just before his fatal encounter w Zimmerman- Trayvon thought he was being stalked by a possible attacker.
-Fact: According to the neighbor watch manual the guy on watch is NOT supposed to be carrying a fire-arm & is supposed to alert the police but avoid confrontation. Zimmerman failed these recommendations on both counts
-Fact: The cops drug tested Trayvon's [the victim's] corpse but FAiLED to drug test Zimmerman [the killer].
-Fact: The cops failed to immediately contact Trayvon's girl friend [by using his cell phone] or find out if he knew someone in the area [IE: his father & his dad's fiancee'].
-Fact: The cops obviously just took Zimmerman's word that Trayvon [the dead victim] attacked him [even though his story conflicted w some witnesses accounts], & simply let him walk Scott-free - as it still so- 1 month after he killed Trayvon!
Now you can accuse me of so-called 'Playing the 'Race-Card' all you want to, I'll keep asking this question- When is the last time YOU Can Recall that an unarmed / nonviolent white person was shot & killed by police [or a some cop wanna-be like Zimmerman who was then given a free pass by the cops]??!! I have to go all the way back to Kent State in 1970!
Now how many infamous cases of Black & Brown unarmed victims [including at-least one little Black school-girl in Detroit as the cops raided the WRONG House] being shot & killed by cops in the just past 10 to 15 yrs! - Ten - Twenty- perhaps even more! If you want me to start naming specific cases- I can!

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Mother Destee, we can give our children options. At the very least most of us have a roof over our heads with a TV, DVD player and computers. We can start by educating the children around us. Giving them real knowledge of self. This is where it starts and it's not hard to do. As a mother, this is what I do. My children are very aware of who they are and I know they will take this knowledge of self into adulthood. That's a start. We have to lead by example. Peace

-Love Goddess

http://destee.com/index.php?threads/its-a-war-on-black-men.71348/page-14

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Sorry, but Lupe speaks the truth. America is the worlds greatest terrorist, unfortunately. Why is the US in Afghanistan and Iraq ? Also, why did it attack Libya, and is doing operations across Africa ?


-Lexe

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Why is it it was widely accepted to bash Fmr. Pres. Bush but the fist thing said against obama is a issue facts are Lupe is right this is straight up murder and they no tie al the pretty pink and blue bows on it all u want a murderer is a murderer and if we can call bush a murder obama can be held to the same "respect". Sometimes the right thing isnt popular lupe is speaking truth even if it unpopular. 

-brianna simpson

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Michele Reply:
July 25th, 2012 at 19:53
My gynecologist is really into wellness and treats both women and men. He said the feminization of males is due to the chemicals we interact with on a daily basis which are contained in plastic containers and processed food: zeno estrogens. Young boys have acquired soft, feminine bodies plus it alters brain chemistry and thus behavior. He has about 150 adult male patients who receive testoterone hormone therapy; he is no longer surprised that at relatively younger ages these men have bodies like post menopausal women: soft, fat, with moobs. Basically parents should refrain from allowing their children, male and female, from consuming processed and fast food, use natural cleaning products, etc. Same advice he gives his adult male and female patients. My doctor’s peers thought he was kooky regarding this 15 + years ago but research and studies have vindicated him.
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Lindsey just killed his credibility. Obama is NOT a Muslim, Obama is related to Cheney, Bush, etc, none of who are Muslims. In addition, anyone with common sense knows Obama is a puppet OF the elites, not an adversary. To blame Obama as though he is more powerful than the elites is propaganda. Beware of false prophets and teachers!

crammasters 2 months ago

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There's a huge difference between ideology and party you can't compare today's Limbaugh Republicans to the 1800's Liberal Republicans that ended slavery Yankee Republicans were Northern Liberals and Lincoln was a Liberal Republican Yankee
CONFEDERATES WERE CONSERVATIVES
1800's Southern Democrats were Conservative States Rights the South switched over to Republican after the 1960's Southern Strategy that's why most of today's Southern Whites are Republicans who hate having a Black President.

-SuperBlackWoman1




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Defending the Poor and Other information

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NIXAKLIE: I AGREE WITH MOST

cripes - 07/20/2012 - 03:49

Nixaklie: I agree with most of your points, especially refuting the idiotic idea that everyone in this economy (or any economy in the world today) can, will or should be college graduates in order to have employment with a living wage. Considering the fact that just 30.44% of adults 25 and over have bachelor's degrees and can't get employed,

See: Jobs Few, College Graduates Flock to Unpaid Internships

what makes us think turning out more over-credentialled, unemployed, debt-burdened young people will fix structural unemployment? So they can compete for jobs at Starbucks with their English or business degrees? Really?

And how does this help workers aged 30-70 without degrees?

We do need an economy that will provide living wage employment--even, or especially--for non-degreed workers, which are 70% of our workforce.

The idea that we should push every single mom into forced (low-wage) employment while her children are infants is a hideous relic of Bill Clinton's personal responsibility work and reconciliation act, which also created countless new categories of life sentences for the prison system. Any connection there?

No, we need an economy that values the labor of women or men who are caretakers to children, elderly, disabled, students, etc., just like rich folks do for their families. An economy that uses the astounding efficiencies of technology and productivity gains to provide a better life for all, instead of profits for the few and back-breaking, mind-destroying labor for the rest.

WE JUST DON'T NEED, AND THIS ECONOMY CAN'T SUSTAIN, EVERY ADULT WORKING 2,600 HOURS A YEAR FOR 50 YEARS. (Sorry for shouting, but this needs repeating)

Christ, even the Japanese work fewer hours per year than we do.

We're being chumped with this calvinist BS that job-training and endless work will make our lives better. Then, when it doesn't work for everyone, because it CAN'T, blame the "losers" for not being "winners." Rinse, repeat.

H____, our grandfather's knew better a centruy ago when they fought for the 40 hour week, pensions, and the right to leisure.

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THE REAL NEWS HAS A SERIES CALLED 'THE ECONOMIC HUNGER GAMES'

Nixakliel - 07/21/2012 - 17:03

 [@ http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=74&jumival=892 ]: Paul Jay Interviews Jeff Faux: 

FAUX: 'We're shrinking the schools & laying off teachers, kids can't go to college because it costs too much. And we're not creating jobs for educated young people. You go into the Apple Store [or Best-Buy, Radio-Shack, etc] & there is the future. It's not technology. It's all those smart college-educated kids working as retail clerks for $10, $12 an hour. The Bureau of Labour Statistics projects that between 2010-2020, of the 10 largest & fastest-growing occupations in the US, only one requires a college education. The 20-somethings are going to turn into 30-somethings & then 40-somethings w dead-end jobs, because its the policy of both parties. After Reagan the sense of the future disappeared from American politics. Reagan came in & ripped out the solar panels that Jimmy Carter had put into the White House. The future would not be shaped by democratic government; the future would be shaped by the market. And we're still under Reagan's shadow. Obama & Clinton are under Reagan's shadow.-  'Globalization' can outsource anything that you can do w a computer. So lawyers' jobs,  accountants jobs, market research jobs, etc- are all being outsourced- all the kinds of jobs that these kids, who are now graduating from college $20,000 - $30,000 - $40,000 in debt, thought they'd have...' { -- Thus people are going to have to ask the hard question- Is this 'Getting a College Degree = Success'- cliche'  even necessarily true in today's economic reality?

Admittedly I first thought this NY-Times article was a direct in your face frontal attack on Black & Brown single moms. But when I read it I realized it was much more subtle than that. It used a white single mom is a very clever surrogate. But IMO The NY-Times did NOT pick her by chance- considering the small odds of a white girl from a small town in Iowa / MI w a 'Traditional Family Values' type back-ground- meeting a Black guy at a small private college in Iowa & having 3 out-of-wedlock kids by him, & then he cuts-out.   

And then the article falsly equates college education w family stability & even personal virtue. It may be true that college educated women tend to marry before they start having kids, & are financially better off than most single moms- but I learned in my college [yeah me too] stats class that correlation does NOT necessarily = causation! It doesn't take a PhD to figure out that 22, 23, 24 yr old more mature adult women [= the age most folks graduate from college] are on average going to make better / more mature life choices than- 15, 16, 17, & even 18 yr old Teen-aged GIRLS [= the ages many/most single moms often have their first child before even graduating from hi-school - and if they fail to graduate from hi-school obviously they won't go on to college]! So I had to point out that the actual data shows that as the US has had increasing % of college grads, the US divorce rate has also INCREASED! So are we supposed conclude that college degrees = more divorce [No.]?!?

This is the kind of subtle faulty reasoning in the article that made me go there. But when this NY-Times article basically concluded that if single moms were married, that would [magically] entirely negate the negative economic impacts of the neo-liberal / disaster-capitalist / cut-throat austerity agenda- IMO They really showed their hand!

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THE RICH ARE ON A CAPITAL STRIKE

Cynical Negro - 07/22/2012 - 11:28

The ruling class is trying to get the most money and power without the use of the under-class worker. In the land of derivatives and new technology, the serfs are only good for slave labor and/or part time work.

If you're a person who can't find a good paying job, you should be fighting for what Mittens "old white money" Romney would call: "free shit!"

Free homes, free money, free debt relief, free healthcare, free education, free day care, free food, free clothes etc. If you can't survive, you have to rob people who have stuff.

Here's where the police state apparatus comes in: The ruling class would rather leave you for dead (or kill you) before they get taxed ----- or face the guillotine!

These people are obsessed with ethnic cleansing:

Designer Babies: Genetically modified babies for the rich:

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video.php?v=wshhFNe0TQVk456rp31G

Abortions as a crime fighting tool: "Freakonomics" The Movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6gOeggViw

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"PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY" IS

cripes - 07/18/2012 - 15:13

"Personal Responsibility" is neo-con code for social irresponsibility, poverty wages, social and economic exclusion, rampant incarceration, schools to prisons, criminalization of homelessness and economic violence.

BTW, low income is a causative factor in single motherhood, divorce, high infant mortality, reduced life expectancy, and generally a hard, short life. So if the NYT is so concerned about the plight of single mothers, they can report on Theresa Funiciello's CareGiver Credit Campaign (http://www.caregivercredit.org/) to provide real financial support for mothers and caregivers of children and adults. Like civilized nations do.

Example: in Denmark the minimum wage is $16.65. A part time worker at Mcdonalds earns about $17-18 per hour, has guaranteed health care, paid parental leave, and 30 days paid vacation each year. Housing and education is available for all and high quality. Somehow, McDonalds can make a profit and pay workers a living wage.

The US has been turned into a doghouse of profiteering, fraud, authoritarianism and exploitation. 

The New York Times is a despicable rag, a mouthpiace for government misinformation and Cato Institute class warfare. I read it daily since I was in second grade, but after the Judith Ross WMD fraud, I never read it again. No one should. 

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THE BLACK COUNTER-INSURGENCY PROGRAM

Cynical Negro - 07/22/2012 - 11:31

Divide & Rule: 1) Turn the children against the adults 2) Turn the women against men 3) Turn the rich against the poor 4) Turn this region against that region 5) Pit that group against that group etc. etc.

All forms of warfare was waged against black people: 1) Economic warfare 2) psychological warfare 3) Chemical/biological warfare 4) Judicial warfare 5) direct police state Terrorism

WE NEED A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO COINTELPRO, "Operation Frühmenschen" ("Operation Primitive Man") and other similar programs like these.

Obama Revives Frühmenschen

by Jeffrey Steinberg

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2010/3730obama_fruhmenschen.html

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NOT TO JUSTIFY NY-TIMES 'SUBTLE' SHOT AT POOR WOMEN [& MEN] BUT:

Nixakliel - 07/21/2012 - 17:12

The Fact is That- Single mother-hood & teen-age pregnancy are big issues in the Black community w any-where from 65% - 75% of Black urban households being father-less [I'm less concerned about legal status than about a functioning positive presence]. This break-down in the Black family can't be trivialized- Yet it must be seen in its TRUEhistorical context, which the psuedo 'Liberal' NY-Times won't touch- Which is US society's 4 centuries old on-going racist assault on the Black family!

First they chained our fore-mother & fathers to the filthy bottoms of slave-ships. Then they sold them on auction blocks like cattle. And of course Ole 'Massa' often had his way w slave women & girls- even if they were 'married' [a status that was not legally recognized for slaves]- ala Thomas Jefferson & his slave girl Sally Hemmings. Then they breeded slave women & girls w 'stud-bucks' to get more slaves w out having to buy them. And in places like New Orleans, they even specially breeded slave women & girls to be  'escorts' to sexual-service southern white aristocracts. And often ole massa ripped slave families apart- for monetary reasons [It ain't personal it's just business], or as punishment for some alleged infraction, or just on a whim.

Yet despite all of that tramatic history, our parents & grand-parents had a real sense of & inclination toward {extended}family in the post-slavery south. But that began to deteriorate when we left for big-cities up north in search of the 'American Dream' &/or under threat of white-terrorism ala the KKK. - Case in point: For the block where I grew up on Chicago's south-side [in a Black neigborhood], I would estimate that for my peers, at-least 75% - 85% had their fathers present at home, most of whom were responsible hard-working men. But in just 2 generations we've gone from a state in urban America- where 65%, 75%, 85% of working-class Black households w children had their fathers at home, to now 65% - 75% of Black households w children are effectively fatherless. Just how the hell did that happen??? Was it in our genes??? If so then, why when I was growing up, did likely 80% of my peers have their fathers at home??? Or was it because they started dismantling the urban industrial sector in the mid 1970s - 1980s, because of urban neglect, because they unleashed the so-called 'War on Drugs' & 'War on Crime' [IE: opened a new-front on their on-going war on Black & Brown people] which feeds their 'Prison Industrial Complex' / 'New Jim Crow' system??? And was it because they started to openly commercialize sex to sell their commodities, in ever more blatantly rauchy fashion & even developed a pop-cultural so-called 'sexual-revolution' to justify it???

Ultimately many/most things in life come down to personal responsibility & facing the consequences of poor choices, BUT we've got to take a serious analytical look at the environment we been subjected to & conditions that have been imposed on us. That way we can understand that many bad so-called choices we've been making, have effectively been 'programmed' into us without us being consciously aware of it. And we can never let lame-stream talking-heads get away w an overly simplistic [dishonest] {non}analytical 'Blame the Victim' narrative. Even if most Black single moms got married tomorrow, ignoring the fact there is a definite shortage of eligible Black men these days [unless the NY-Times is hinting what some other books, featured stories & movies have said directly- that college educated / 'successful' Black women should marry white men - BUT IMO most white men would be quite reluctant to marry even college educated Black single moms], economically the Black family would likely still be in distress- because the whole damn economy is in distress- DUHH!!! Plus the divorce rate for whites is now +30% for marriages of 7yrs &  up to 40% - 50% for marriages of 10yrs. And traditionally even when the over-all econ was OK for most whites, it was NOT OK for many Blacks!

What this NY-Times does NOT hint at but states directly, is that folks w college degrees [primarily white] do better both economically & even socially- IE: are more inclinded to get & stay married. That may have been so up to perhaps the mid 1990s  - yr 2000. But w the sky-hi cost of education- trapping many/most students in mountains of debt, w little guarantee of finding decent paying jobs- does it even make financial sense to blindly pursue a college education these days??! And w failing inner city public schools [which NCLB / RTTT type DeForm hyped by mainly white college educated elites will make worse]- leading to the school to prison pipeline for too many Black & Brown youth. And the back-lash against affirmative action progs has made / will make college less accessible to Black & Brown students. Thus this simplistic 'Get a college degree for success'- cliche'- being hyped by this NY-Times article may in effective be selling a 'pipe{WET}dream'!  

And the over-all trend for since the past 50 to 100yrs has been an increase in divorces as the number of US college grads increased- IE: the divorce rate in 2007 before the on-set of the Great Recession was 2.3Xs more than in 1930 during the depth of the Great Depression!Yet there were 10Xs more college Grads in 2007 than in 1930 [= the number of grads per US citizens is 4.3Xs greater in 2007 than in 1930]. In 1981 [FYI: during Reagan era the divorce rate reached its peak] the US divorce rate was 2.65Xs greater in 1981 than in 1941 [= the WWII era]. Yet there 5Xs more college grads in 1985 than 1941 or for per % US population an increase college grad rate of 3Xs. Thus the real deal is that divorce in the US has substantially [if not dramatically]INCREASED as college graduation has also increased!  

Furthermore let's not forget that it was college educated {mainly white} folk that crashed the economy primarily thru Wall St Bankster type fraud ['This {global economic} crisis was NOT caused by Black, Indigenous nor poor people... But rather by the irrational {IE: crooked} behavior of some white people with blue eyes {& advanced college degrees}, who before the crisis appeared to know everything about economics and now demonstrate that they know nothing about economics...' - Ex-Brazilian Pres Luiz Lula daSilva at a March 2009 press conference w ex-UK PM Gordon Brown- where he accused the rich of forcing the poor into greater hardship.{see: www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/26/lula-attacks-white-bankers-crash/ & http://blackagendareport.com/content/lula-puts-blue-eyed-white-bankers-their-place ], & also hyped that NAFTA / GATT type trade agreements would be good for both US, Mexican & Haitian workers [March 2010: In the immediate wake of the Haitian earth-quake, ex-US Pres Bill{'I feel Your Pain' - NOT!}Clinton admits that NAFTA / GATT type neo-Liberal free-market trade agreements exacerbated hunger in Haiti and elsewhere- & apologized for championing policies that destroyed Haiti's rice production...]; -&- also lied to the World about Saddam's non-existent WMDs- which lame-stream media press-titute out-lets [IE: The NY-Times] played a major role in hyping! 

Thus having a college degree(s) neither necessarily guarantees more family stability nor more virtuous ethics. And now it's not even a guaranteed path to a stable decent paying job!

IMO This NY-Times article subtly uses a featured white single mom [Ms Schairer] as a surogate- avoiding a blatant in your face assault on Black single mothers. But mid-way thru the article lo & behold it's revealed that the father of Ms Schairer's 3 kids is a Black guy whom she met [ironically] in college. This NY-Times article makes a point that they never got married & of Ms Schairer's description of him as irresponsible. She also admits to subsequently allowing another boy-friend to shack-up w her & the kids for 6 months [his ethnicity is not revealed- which makes me suspect he was white]. IMO: The most telling point made in this article is that in 1990 the rate of out-of-wedlock births for white women w some college education was 10% but now its 30% [I bet for this trend the main culprits are white guys NOT Black & Brown guys- 'What comes around eventually goes around.' - 'Eventually You'll reap what you sow.']. {NOTE: Firstremember that MSNM outlets IE: The NY-Times, are often propaganda outlets masquerading as news outlets. What are the odds of a white girl from a small-town in Iowa hooking up in college w a Black guy she never knew before- having 3 kids by him & then he cuts-out on her & them? How many Black men are even in college these days compared to either white women & men or even Black women {there's at-least 2 Black women to every Black man in college}? So IMO: its no accident that this NY-Times article featured a white woman who has 3 bi-racial kids by an absent Black dad! Thus one of this article's hidden messages is: In general having relationships w Black men, even college educated ones, is a risky choice for college educated women- be they white or even Black!}

This article emphasizes this point: That the main reason Ms Schairer's boss [Mrs Faulkner- FYI: she & her husband are white] is doing so much better than she is - is because Mrs Faulkner is married [From the article: The main difference between them is not the 'impact of globalization on wages but a guy name Kevin Faulkner']. IMO this statement is likely true at the personal level [I'm all for the sisters marrying loving & responsible brothers], BUT- It is entirely TOO dismissive of the real negative impacts that WTO, NAFTA, GATT styled trade agreements have had on the working-class / working-poor both in the US & even worse abroad! And marriage is NO 'Magic Bullet Theory' that will completely negate that fact [this also increasingly becoming true for college degrees as well]!

PS: The real way to fairly & equitably end welfare as we know it- in addition to encouraging a social & economic environment conducive to keeping families intact- Is a Full Employment policy at a fair & living wage for all able-bodies [excluding pregnant women & mothers of small children], w universal access to relevent education [up-thru at-least the AA / BA / BS degree level] & adequate health-care for all. - Which almost certainly the NY-Times will NOT advocate - Thus the NY-Times is effectively justifying hard-core cold-blooded Neoliberal econ policies & austerity cuts in the so-called social 'safety-net' in hard economic times- by focusing on non-college degreed single mothers as being entirely responsible for their own economic plight- as a clever diversionary tactic. 

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You've certainly proved you DON'T know history. Any half way decent library will have books discussing the Muslim Arab slave trade that went on for at least 1000 years. There was even a Black slave revolt in Iraq around 800AD. There are descendants of Black enslaved by Arabs in much of the Middle East, and even India. If Islam came to end slavery, then it FAILED disastrously in its mission. My colleagues include AFRICAN historians who are well aware of Arab slave trading. I've met and spoken to Africans who talk no only about Arab slavetrading but anti0-Black Arab racism. even Frantz Fanon mentions anti-Black Arab racism in both THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH & BLACK SKINS, WHITE MASKS. In fact, the enslavement of Blacks and others by Muslim Arabs never completely ended. Formre Black slaves in Sudean have testified to what they've suffered. YOur ignorance of this is a matter of dishonesty, stpidity or both. One more thing, Assdurratin: Islam began in ARABIA, not Africa. A map will not show Mecca anywhere in continental Africa. As you don't even know basic things about African or Islamic history, from now on you will address me as Sir, Dr. even MASTER. The only you know is yourself and the one who bore you. 

-Savant

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Barros Serrano wrote:

Although, you know, if Obama were white and his father was, say Belgian, and his mother a white Yank... I'll bet the teapartiers would be calling him “that Belgian Muslim communist terrorist”.
Not that I'm disputing your assertion that racism is in play against Obama... But the GOP will throw that kind of dirt on anyone. Remember how they treated Hillary?
They're not only racist---they're sexist, elitist, fascist---multi-faceted reprobates.

Well these reactionaries hate their ancestral homelands in Europe. If Obama was a liberal white guy of recent Belgian descent, he'd be denounced at least a as effete European snob, and a Communist.

Imagine if MIchelle Obama had run and somenow won--black, female & literate. The Right would have a fit of cosmic proportions.

-Savant

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Truckstop Bob wrote:

Yeah America needs a; Mormon, polygamist, ponzi scheming, offshore accounts having, vulture capitalist as president. That will solve all of this nation's problems.

very well said and the vultures are even worse with Congress tea-partiers. 

ponzi scheming Mormon Mitt bearing also the anti-Black culture of his cult. 

a whiteboi

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Black Muslims love to ignore or down play the slave trade of the Arabs. It gives them the ability to accuse black Christians of being slaves of the wm and of being anti black while pretending Arabs are the friends of blacks


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Abdurratln wrote:

I pick the man who knows how to get rich as the best choice to get the economy back on track. And that is what most voters are doing. Polls consistently show Romney beating Obama by a small margin. That margin is likely to get larger before it gets smaller.

The problem with most Americans is that they are greedy. Most of you focus on material wealth and only 3% of the population has reached and maintain that status. The rich do not give a d____ about you. Now, if Romney was the kind of guy that believed in wealth for the NATION and not just what he can pocket and get away with sure... he'd have my vote, but he doesn't. Hell, he won't even share his knowledge with the public because how he got there in his words, is none of your business. Hey, there is a book entitled "The Richest Man in Babylon" you'd do yourself a favor by reading it. 

Everyone fairs well when knowledge and resources are shared. Most people are poor because that's the way the wealthiest americans want it. You keep on thinking that way. lOL


And the polls you are referring to are so far off reality, but you will come to realize one day that Mind control is a "Mother!" It works because critical mass are not of one mind but more like sheep being herded by a shrewd herder who's only mission is to keep those sheep plump and fat for the market place. That spells profit for HIM and certain DEATH for the sheep.

Yes, it is true that America is set up like a "corporation" and NOT a country. A corporation has one goal. PROFIT! Should a chain gang worker becomes unable to tote that bar and lift that bail, he's rendered useless. That's why we have opposition to what those that HAVE termed OBAMACARE! Keep on with the blinders on. Keep on keeping on. See, "Collective" prosperity can only happen when the "critical mass" can see the forest in-spite of the trees.

In a "perfect world" we will all live a good life. But as long as we have those who have more thinking and believing that THEY are the chosen ones and who will say with conviction that "I AM NOT MY BROTHER'S KEEPER", you will always deal with the Holmes of the world. Guys like that are all around us. Ticking time bombs. And one day, they will start shooting the sons _____________  that sit in Ivory towers looking down on the masses. Those who say to themselves, "I've got mine and that's ALL that's important." It really doesn't take much light to see what's going on.


-A Person

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Note by Me: I don't agree with calling someone disagreeing with me a fool or boy, but the rest of the words are things that I agree with.

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Ron83 wrote:

Obama presidency: over 8% unemployment rate since he has been in office
over 15 trillion dollars in debt
supports illegal aliens getting jobs over American citizens
Mitt Romney for president 2012!!

You fool! Obama inherited an economic meltdown caused not only by Dubya's incompetence (which was immense) but decades of Reaganomics malfeasance perpetrated by the corporate-puppet connedservatives, or, as they're called in French, the “petitconservatives” LOL... oh man I crack myself up...


Anyway, the corporate corruption runs deep in both parties, but Mitt the Corporate Hairpiece is hardly a solution! He is WORSE than Obama by far! Look at his history! What sort of traitor would you have to be to want that misanthrope running the country and screwing us even deeper in the hole!!!


And I suppose you're also happy with insurance corporations in charge of our medical care.


And of course you're content that Halliburton got rich while putting our grandchildren into debt to China for a war based on lies... no problem, eh?


And of course if all those illegal immigrants weren't here, you'd be out applying for those lettuce-picking, dishwashing and grasscutting jobs they took from you, right?


Just how many hours per day do you watch Faux News, boy!?

-Barros Serrano

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Ron83 wrote:

Obama does not believe in the U.S. Constitution which is evident by him wanting to force individuals/corporations to purchase health insurance, making a rule to not deport illegal immigrants, and being hostile to the 2nd amendment. He is a socialist who wants to tax the middle class out of existence and believes in heavy government regulation and interference. And yes, I would rather have insurance corporations in charge of our medical care than the government. I do not want the government dictating to the American people what type of health care we receive. Mitt Romney may not be great but I think he is better than Obama by far.

How lame! LOL... THAT is a Constitutional violation!!! That's all you've got, punk? LOL!!!


He has done nothing against the 2nd amendment. That is the perennial cry of the braindead dittohead...“The Democrats are gonna take our guns!” BS. Ain't happened and ain't gonna happen.


Illegal immigrants? That isn't a Constitutional matter. The President could decide to deport them all or give them Amnesty... either way is legal. The first option of course is immoral, but you connedservatives don't care about that, of course.


The govt does not “dictate” what healthcare you get. EVERY other developed country has universal healthcare, and it works fine. I lived in Europe and saw it firsthand. The USA is a primitive backwater because of this... the inability to overcome the political influence of corporations who control our Congress and keep us in this quasi-feudal mire.


Mitt Romney is a corporate tool who cares nothing for the people! In other words... he's a Republican!


Lose the petitconservative brainwashing and return to being a real American, boy! Lose the corporate adulation, the acquiescence to quasi-fascism. Un-clone and un-drone yourself!


TURN OFF FAUX NEWS, FOOL!!!

-Barros Serrano

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Even that very eloquent DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, while list grievances against the King, manages to refer to Native Americans as "merciless Indian savages." Did Jefferson and other founding fathers consider "merciless Indian savages" to be among those "men" who are "created equal"? Where Blacks among those men created equal?

-Savant

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http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/pacificapanthers.html

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Astra Foxx No truer words have been spoken. Thank you. Not to mention that he drank from the fountain of Muddy Waters' genius. You Tube is littered with videos of him playing alongside blues legends such as B.B King - as though to prove his 'authenthicity' where the blues are concerned. May the good Lord bless all who have called this ingrateful child out. I don't know if the following have been mentioned already: The Rolling Stones have been mentioned with the song 'Brown Sugar', I mean its original version as it has since been sanitized. Oh and Kid Rock who is said to possess an abiding affection for the confederate flag and a fondness for the n word.

They go IN on his behind. Blues fans are a rabid bunch with their stanning for the old Blues greats. I cannot stand his music and they even made him admit he used the OG aka Robert Johnson's riff repeatedly.

Muddy Waters s___ on this man. Buddy Guy even spoke on it and the video is on YouTube. Eric Clapton isn't fit to wipe their shoes.

Kid Rock is part of what I call the Black for profit brigade. I include Mark Wahlberg in this group as well. They'll cope a Black style,music etc for money and once they've made enough,their real self comes out.


-County4Life

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Nanettejen13 hours agoin reply to MelindaM

Having watched white Americans vociferously defending her on Facebook today, I'm disappointed but not surprised...

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hulksmashyou17 hours ago

Anyone who thinks she is talking about white South Africans, who are few in number and are never mentioned in literature as illegal European immigrants, is ignorant at best and disingenuous at worse. When Europeans talk about Africans they always mean black Africans.
The woman here is disparaging black people in general, like Europeans in countries like Spain and Poland often do. That white Americans will support racist anti-black foreigners is no surprise either.

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Happy Face18 hours ago

I checked Greece's demographic statistics and they don't even have blacks as a minor or major ethnic group. This woman just thinks it amusing to poke racist fun at blacks. The assertion she is referring to white Africans is dubious at best and poisonously disingenuous at worst. She is not the first nor will she be the last European to denigrate black people. Having watched white Americans vociferously defending her on Facebook today, I'm disappointed but not surprised. Romney voters no doubt.

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FreeBLACKman8042 hours agoin reply to namvet527

Please tell me anything that Rev. Wright has lied about in his Sermons. I would love to hear it. I have heard the man speak in person 3 times. Yes he is a fireball, but a liar he is not.
White people are always quick to call a Black man that teaches the truth to his people racist. You do that because you want to be the one that controls the propaganda that is heard by black people. And that is what most of our problem is, the white man has done a great job of teaching our people to only believe what WHITE PEOPLE SAY. I suggest you find some other site to go on and spread your B.S. 

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P2 hours agoin reply to FreeBLACKman804

Freeblackman, that is white arrogance on display for you. The whiteman's nature, his entire mindset is based on fear. Ask this charlatan or any of his co travellers to specifically list the lies that Rev. Wright has told, and they beat about the bush in confusion. White people love to point out the inadequacies of everyone else, especially blacks, but when the truth about their evil nature and deeds are brought up, they become mad and irate. If a brother like Rev. Wright or Minister Farakkhan tried to reveal some hidden facts about them, they go bunkers. They are so afraid of being exposed, so the minute they encounter a fiesty truth telling brother like Rev. Wright, they immediately try to shut him up. Back in the days, they would have killed him, or sent the KKK to torch his house then lynch him on his front lawn. Today however, with the World watching, they can't always be as brazen so they use their right wing propaganda machine to demonize and discredit him so the masses would view him as a rabid radical...their favorite word.
They would swallow their lies and tell it to their sheepfold on fox plantation.

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FreeBLACKman80450 minutes agoin reply to P

Wow. Im gonna have to say that i AGREE with most of THIS comment. This person is only on here to spread B.S. and the same old 400 year lies and nonsense that white folk have been fooling my people with. I usually dont respond to these kind of people, but im very FULL today, so im gonna take a few SWINGS at these clowns TODAY.