Again, a Straw Man fallacy. Even Hitler didn't commit those atrocities until he got total power. And he was able to get total power more easily than Trump because the Weimar Republic was far more fragile (being less than 30 years old and with weak leadership and institutions). The institutions of American civil society, and the judiciary are far more stable (though also increasingly corrupt); and so absolute power can not be had so easily by Trump as by Hitler. Who knows what nightmare would await us if Trump does get absolute power? It is similarity in the attitudes and style of Trump and Fascist dictators that is noticeable. A number of scholars and writers have commented on this. But I've little doubt that if American institutions were a unstable as those in Germany in 1932 we'd be living in a Fascist America. And as Alexis de Tocqueville once wrote, if tyranny comes to America it will probably come creeping in on cat's paws. With Trump that fascist creep is beginning to sound a bit louder than cat paws. But since it will take people like him MORE TIME to gain and consolidate total power, it also means more time for us more socially and morally conscious Americans to resist the fascist creep before it becomes a tidal wave of fascism If Paul were better informed he would notice that numerous thinkers and scholars observe a similarity between Trump style of leadership and even the xenophobic, racist and militant nationalist themes of his rhetoric and similar leadership styles and reactionary rhetoric once found in Hitler and Italy's Il Duce. I'd point Paul to some articles on this, but they're probably above his mental level. And given his usual racist comment about the intelligence or mentality of Blacks of America, need I even say more about miscreants like Paul and others who form the benighted base of Trump support? (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #3218)
It is interesting that America's popularity ROSE with the election of Obama, and then plummeted drastically with the emergence of Il Duce Don Trump. Frankly, I see Obama as a centrist politician, not the "transformative" leader many hoped he would be. Simply having a political leader with intelligence after a simpleton with a fifth grade mentality (GW Bush), and then be followed by a Fascist loon (Il Duce Don Trump) probably does make Obama look better than he is--except in the minds of right wing buffoons. But I wonder how Barack Obama would look if the GENERAL quality of American leadership was much better, and if the moral and political intelligence of the American public was much higher? (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #3217)
No American president has MADE HIMSELF look more like Hitler than has Don Trump. Actually, when one reads European commentary they more often suggest Doufus rather than Hitler as characteristic of American leaders, and much of the American public: As when a British newspaper after GW Bush's election to a second terms read "Can 55 Million People REALLY be that Dumb?" I'm not sure about the exact numbers, but we've plenty of dummies--like Paul who doesn't care about what Europeans think, partly because he doesn't care for THINKING at all. As for the expression "idiot Marxist" by Paul, it only proves Paul's idiocy. He screams "Marxist! " like a 17th Century religious fanatic screams "Witch!" . (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #3215)
Racism still prevalent 50 years after riots 30 mins ago
Stop being stupid and learn how to think logically. Your second statement is simply false, since 98% of Blacks never commit a violent crime. And the SCALE of violence by white males, domestically and elsewhere, makes street gangs in look like amateurs. Also, the data of studies are not Orwellian. But your reasoning capacities are so poor you wouldn't know the difference. (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #124)
Baltimore/Ferguson vs. Charlottesville
You ae worried about Black crime because you are a paranoid white racist. The Vast majority of crimes committed against whites are committed BY WHITES( about 85%). Not surprising since crime is usually INTRARACIAL, not interracial. But your racism makes you paranoid and stupid. if you were INTELLIGENT and SANE you'd be more worried about white criminals than about either black criminals or Muslim terrorists. On that score, we Blacks are generally more intelligent and sane than you are. When it comes to CRIME, we mainly Know that most crime is committed WITHIN the racial group to which the perpetrator belongs. We don't worry or complain much about white crime. Probably most of us could care less how much you rob, rape, pillage and kill each other while complaining about "black crime'. We care little about white crime, but about WHITE RACISM. We're not directly affected by white crime for the most part, but hardly any of us can evade the evil effects of white racism. In short, we worry about what ails us. You worry about what you IMAGINE ails you. You are deeply sick and pathological. (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #45)
Baltimore/Ferguson vs. Charlottesville
You're right. If the driver of the car had been a brown skinned Muslim Il Duce Don Trump would have been SCREAMING about ISLAMIC terrorism, and sending Islamophobic tweets around the globe. He would not have been talking about violence or hate "on all sides." He would have been screaming about MUSLIM violence, and implying (if not saying outright) that this Islamic extremism is characteristic of Muslims in general. But when it comes to WHITE RACIST terrorism, white nationalist, white supremacist and Nazi terrorism, he was noticeably TAME is his disapproval--and had to be CALLED OUT on it several times--before he would even say he words "white supremacist", "white racists." How long did it take him? Was it two days or three? It would have taken him less than TWO MINUTES to utter EXPLICIT anti-Muslim denunciations had the terrorists in Virginia been Muslim. But Trump knows who is base is. Fascist scum in the White House.
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Baltimore/Ferguson vs. Charlottesville
No matter how you slice it MOST American terrorism is the work of white right wingers and racist like those in Virginia, whose values are basically the same as Paul. It is therefore with good reason that one black comedian said: "I'm not worried about Al Quaeda, I'm worried about Al Cracker!"
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Racism still prevalent 50 years after riots 30 mins ago
Of course, this smart aleck reply doesn't refute the arguments I presented in post # 117. Paul's reply is a textbook fallacy: fallacy of STRAW MAN. Nonetheless, there is much research and scholarly evidence in support of the arguments I made in #117. The racial inequities in judicial and police systems greatly engenders the inflated rates of incarceration as well as crime statistics. I've seen studies and data that show this. But these are beyond the limited mental capacities of a bigot like Paul (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #122)
I think I did see some demonstrators in Europe carrying posters with Trump's face bearing a Hitler style mustache. I guess Americans of center/left persuasion aren't the only ones who suspect Trump of being a Fascist. The fascistic white nationalists, Klansmen, Nazis and other assorted lunatics among Trump supporters are just ecstatic that one of their own is now President--with or without the popular vote. The lunacy of Charlottesville, Virginia is an embarrassment on display for the whole world to see. (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #3213)
While Europe has its own reactionary fascists and racists, they seem to have the good sense not to elect them to the highest office. At least the French held their noses and voted for the neoliberal opportunist Macron rather than the Fascist Marine le Pen of the National Front. Moreover, Marine le Pen lost by a LANDSLIDE! America ELECTED the fascist Il Duce Don Trump, although (to be fair) he actually LOST the popular vote, but won the Electoral College. That partly salvages American honor. The MAJORITY did not vote for the Fascist. But a large enough minority did, nd in sufficient numbers for the Fascist to carry enough states to win the Electoral College. That fact DISHONORS America. Donald Trump should have gotten about the same amount of votes as the American Communist Party. So, it seems Europe is still not quite so backward as the USA. Maybe it's because they've EXPERIENCED Fascism first hand. Thus, when confronted with a Marine le Pen, the French essentially said "Oh hell no!" They probably have no more love for Macron than I have for the opportunist Hillary, but they have too much sense than to allow their female version of Trump to become President of the French Republic. (Tuesday Aug 15 | post #3212)
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Baltimore/Ferguson vs. Charlottesville
Now you've committed he fallacy of Red Herring. The issue was whether you were correct in equating Islam, a religion, with Nazism. And then, whether Islam is a political movement. Your reference to Communism is irrelevant in this context, and it is at least debatable (since ou bring it up) whether Hitler or Stalin was the biggest killer. Both are responsible for the deaths of tens of millions, and Hitler was in power only half as long as Stalin. But what has this to do with your equating of Islam with Nazism? Since Christian churches often supported Adolph Hitler, maybe you should equate Christianity with Nazism. (Monday Aug 14 | post #37)
EUROPE: How do YOU view AMERICANS?
Revisiting this old thread, I wonder what European reactions are now in light of the ascendancy of Trump...not to mention the madness in Virginia. (Monday Aug 14 | post #3209)
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Baltimore/Ferguson vs. Charlottesville
Nazism is a political ideology and movement. Islam is a religion, one of the Abrahamic religions to be exact. Claiming that Nazism and Islam is the same makes as much sense as claiming that Nazism and Judaism or Christianity (the two other Abrahamic religions) are the same.
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