I suggest all Black people watch the PBS documentary Slavery by another name.This will explain how Blacks were treated AFTER Slavery by companies and Whites who are now wealthy above imagination and how those atrocities were sanctioned by the United States Government. We owe it to ourselves to learn our history and folks I'm telling you when you view this excellent documentary you will be appalled. Slavery by Another name on PBS,it's worth watching, Black men watch this with your sons and your bois because you see what's happening now is only slightly different from what's happening now.
I also watched it. People tend to think that when slavery ended,dirt wage white people labor entered the picture. So fucking far from true. Black convict labor rebuilt the South after the Civil war.
From 1865 til the WWII, the South's labor output was done by BLACKS who so wrongfully were convicted on the basis of being black. Nothing new known but when you hear it from descendants of the criminals ,it penetrates deep in your heart of hearts. Great Documentary and well narrated by Fishburne.
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Hatethehaterz wrote:
@ lostranger: Sounds like you are just as prejudiced and racist as the whites and South Asians you hate so much. How is stereotyping ALL South Asians as "racist" any different than when a white stereotypes all Blacks as thieves or all Mexicans as illegal immigrants, or all Muslims as terrorists?
Did South Asians ever commit genocide against Native Americans, Australian Aborigines, Palestinians, Bosnians, or Jews? Did South Asians ever invade/colonize any African nations and take a bunch of slaves? Do South Asians have any organizations similar in scale and creed to the KKK? Do South Asians make a bunch of websites dedicated to putting down other races or ethnic groups? Who runs all those anti-Black websites like n__, c__, etc.? All snow m________________.
There are also plenty of South Asians who post on this site regularly and defend Blacks and other minorities.
When you write something like "I don't want to hear no Black people standing up for other minorities." It makes me think you are a white troll. Only a snow n_____ would not want other minorities to unite against them. Whites benefit the most when non-whites fight amongst themselves.
Furthermore, if a Black, South Asian, East Asian, whatever, does ever claim sentiments such as "we don't want to defend, help, or work with other minorities, then this person is exactly the same as a white supremacist - he/she is just a supremacist of their own race/ethnicity.
Personally, I and most people here oppose racism and elitism in all its forms. It just happens to be the case that the MAJORITY of racism and elitism today comes from whites.
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They always conveniently point the finger at others. They are some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet. What's good for the goose is NOT good for the gander where YT is concerned. We are forever told to turn the other cheek. These people are a real piece of work.
Brutha...I watched that last night. I must say that as disheartening it was to watch, listen and absorb the truth of what was being taught - - I walked away with strength, my pride was not shattered because of the information I walked away with. The Author, Douglas Blackmon and the other historians did an outstanding job on presenting the information as well.
"Majority rules," he said, referring to the Proposition 8 vote in 2008. "We were born with national rights. We don't need civil rights. [African-Americans] don't need civil rights. They don't need them. They have inalienable rights granted by God in the Constitution. I mean, I'm discriminated against all the time. I don't care. It doesn't bother me. [I'm discriminated against] because I'm old."
So, there you have it. This is the voice of CONSERVATIVE AMERICA. I wonder what the CHOCOLATE COVERED WINGNUTS and the POSERS have to say about CONSERVATIVES who believe Blacks don't need OUR civil rights protected. Or better yet, the Ron Paul supporters who want him to have his way in repealing CIVIL RIGHTS because CIVIL RIGHTS infringes upon K____ freedom of discriminating against Blacks and other minorities.
To those FAKERS on the Maxine Waters article that want to dismiss her FIRST HAND ACCOUNTS of the REPUBLICAN PARTY, do y'all have any suggestions for Black people on this one? I mean besides advising us to stay OUR BLACK A____ at the house this November, and indirectly voting for the party that repeatedly says OUR BLACK A_______ don't need OUR CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTED.
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When you're Black, America has a different set of laws for you. For us, the Constitution can change anytime for any reason. Slavery never really ended.
WE HAVE NO FRIENDS. ALL WE GOT IS US. Stop the Black-on-Black crime. You're killing your only real allies. {{-_-}}
more shameful than the officer's actions is the fact that he was exonerated due to a "vanishing video." it seems like no matter how egregious or blatant a crime cops commit against black citizens, they will NEVER receive a punishment that is fitting enough. those who are in charge of holding cops accountable just don't care...it's disgusting.
I don't hate the police but I hate the Governors, Mayor and DA's who don't prosecute those corrupt police officers. I blame the judges who will not sentence corrupt police officers to prison. But most of all I blame Black folks who REFUSE TO VOTE which place those folks in position to abuse us. The most dangerous Black person is the Black person who knows the law and participate in the process, I don't understand why we don't GET THAT as citizens. Politicians fear one thing only THOSE WHO VOTE. You may hate the system but it's the one we live in go to Town and City meetings in masses and REGISTER to VOTE and VOTE. That is the only way things will change. They abuse Black folks because they know all we'll do is complain instead vote their asses out of office.
Clean up the system, yeah right, white people like the way how things are, sending black men and women to jail in chains every single day and here we have idiots talking about IR relationships are the new IN thing. Give me a f____g break.
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I see your point, however the argument being put forth here is a bit more general.
Am I as a "heterosexual" black man expected to accept that black men are more attractive than black women, that seems to be the general point of the survey... This bares all the hallmarks of a new psychological war against our black women, we shouldn't allow this nonsense, Hollywood and the media already treat black women with utter contempt and not long ago it was black men, next it will be black men again.... This is a recurring cycle of psychological abuse that blacks face and we must not allow any of this rubbish to manipulate us into more self-hatred! This is the work of evil.
Have I missed something or have blacks gone completely mad? SMH
-The Revolutionist
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mzmillion wrote:
are you forgetting, ethiopia awash valley is the creation of all man. ardi was discovered in awash river the link that broke darwins threoy of man. think of it!!!
You have made a good point, there was "Lucy" who is said to be the most famous hominid skeleton discovered. Lucy is said to be about 3.2,000,000 years old and they have discovered stone tools in the same area of Ethiopia (Awash valley), However, lucy isn't the oldest hominid, the oldest is named "Ardi" and is said to be 4.2,000,000 also found in Ethiopia....
I left them out though because though they were fairly intelligent (making tools) they were not exactly like us (Homo sapiens).
I am extremely glad that you watched this excellent documentary, it proves the concentrated policy that was used to disenfranchise and break the spirit of the American(then) Negroes. But as you saw we stood up to that evil and eventually overcame it. If NewsOne and other Black oriented news outlets really wanted to educate and inform our people they'd tell this history. I sincerely that if Black people actually knew what our ancestors HAD to live thru they could not help from doing their best in life. This documentary as others proved the strength, fortitude and dignity we have as Black people. I also believe if they really are a "chosen people" then we are ones. No group has endured what we have and still moved forward. I hope all Black folks watch this educational and excellent documentary.
TrojanPamSays: February 16, 2012 at 4:21 pm I would also like to thank you for having the courage to recognize the pain of black women — and that black males collectively need to take some responsibility for the things they can control. (and the same is also true of us).
We will never break free of this system if we do not learn to love, support, and respect each other. There is no other way.
Guess most whites are realizing they are in the same boat as we are when it comes to the wealthy elite at the top,just like they thought poverty,no jobs,drugs the police state would not affect them,now they are going nuts cause of the denial they been in so long.White history proves the whites have been killing each other off in tribal wars,and it has never stopped till this very day,the ones at the top are greedy corrupt devils,while the ones at the bottom have to hold the top up by being the police,military and slave workers,the foot of the same body,a system of collective evil,that serve the eye and the capstone of the pyramid,as many Raggae artist a sing,Babylon is Falling.
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The KKK, NEO Nazis, the White Citizens Council, and other White Bigots, Segregationist, Hypocrites, & Supremist have a new home The Republican Party. And the republicans want them to stay in the party. This video shows that they are Below Average people!
racist is quicly being nullified by self evident actions
and events that you are encouraging rather than condemning.
Please I hope someone continues to video post and document these
events.
Wonder what Afro-puppet Cain will have to say about this or if he will
be spineless enough to dismiss it?
Saving a copy of the video. Watch it and at one point they
intentionally say "My Knickers" and dismissively say they
are referring to short pants.
Again, that's why I personally don't believe in using the N word
because I know that no matter how people try to redefine it,
at it's core, it is intended to be offensive.
Crude, shamelessly inconsiderate, hypocritical and disrespectful.
And like I said before, it's funny that whites always seem to trash talked rap and other forms of creative Black expression until they are able to copy and exploit it.
By the way, hypocritical disrespect like this that you casually excuse is why Blacks
for the most part want nothing to do with you but thanks for confirming what you
really stand for.
Happy Black History Month, disrespectful racist infiltrators.
Happy Black History Month, discouraging propaganda collaborator called NewsOne.
This is the repug's M-O! They can say whatever & are not held accountable for it. Now the punk "a"
Dems will just beg them to apologize-& they don't. The media (punks too) also do not call them out. They have disdain for the #OWS-when they call them out though.
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Zaius wrote:
LMFWAO. If the Topix AA forum is truly representative of black Americans in general, you lot are going to be on the modern, 21st century democrat plantation living in the ghetto until the end of time.
Your alternative is for us to be in the Republican plantation. No thank you since you do realize that the Republicans agree with the war on terror, anti-civil liberty laws (like the Patriot Act & the USA Commissions Act), torture centers, economic austerity, and the massive cuts to the social safety net. Most black people henceforth reject that agenda and with good reasonings. I'm an Independent. I'm not a Republican nor Democrat. Topix AA forum shows a section of black Americans not every black American. You reactionary types always exaggerate issues and try your best for black people to worship your political philosophies. Yet, we don't because we black people are wise enough to see that your views have been discredited from trickled down economics to the Pax Americana foreign policy deception. Also, many black people don't live in the ghetto. The ghetto is a location and a wide spectrum of African Americans live in the ghetto that don't fit into your stereotypical perceptions.
-By Timothy
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I heard arguments to the effect that it's hard to believe that the media creates the image of the Black criminal given the reality of crime in AA communities. The further make arguments to the effect that liberals are contorting themselves in trying to prove that Blacks really are like other human beings, and that Black culture is not pathological but rather like any other culture. And, of course, they're convinced that only draconian measures can prevail against the barbarism of this criminal community. I can point out to them that whatever the statistics say, the vast majority of Black people--even in the GHETTOES--are NOT criminals, dope dealers, gang bangers, etc. But for people who have what Fanon called a "fixed idea of the Negro" (similar to Sartre called the "idea of the Jew"), none of this matters. Somehow the young people with the Algebra Project, or just the average inner city kid, is somehow NOT representative of Black America or AA culture, but the gangsters and thugs are supposedly representative. For some reason, Little Melvin is more representative of Black culture than Rev. Jamal Bryant. Similarly, the vast majority of 1.5 billions Muslims, not to probably millions risking their lives to fight both secular and theocratic despotism, supposedly do not represent Islam, but Bin Laden does. Somehow i find that unconvincing. And I remained convinced that even though jihadists would not be welcome by Dr. King, the vast majority of Muslims would.
-Savant
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The National Front is a FASCIST political entity. If they took power, freedom would die in France. Of course, that would depend on whether they also succeeded in destroying the Republic. I seem to recall that Le Pen was known for engaging in torture while with the paratroopers in Algeria. He has been known to to deny even that the Holocaust happened. And if I'm not mistaken--it could be some other European reactionary--but I think it was Le Pen who got in trouble for peddling Nazi literature. (Ther are laws against that in Europe) But from what I can tell, most of the terrorism in France--at least when I was there--stemmed from the Front and its supporters. Now if an Islamicist party were to take over France--and destroy the Republic so that they could no be removed from office--this would mean a theocrati fascism rather than a secular one. But....that CAN'T happen in France. France would have to become majority Muslim, and fundamentalist Muslim at that. Where would 4% of the population get the votes to take over power in France? They don't control the police or military, so and Islamist coup d'etat is not an option. Also, how many Franch Muslims would be OPPOSED to the idea themselves. Many of them not only escaped poverty by immigrating to France, they escaped politcial repression. How many Francophone Algerian women would want to live under something like a French "Islamic Salvation Front"? Again, far too many "Muslims " (especially youth) in France are simply too secular. Some are educated at the Sorbonne--like the Algerian student I met occasionally in the Quartier Latin who would yawn or roll his eyes if you mentioned the Quran in his presence. Or the North Africans I met with the anti-racist group (no longer extant) called SOS. You think they'd agree to live under a theocracy? Are you kidding??? There are not enough Muslims numerically, and many of them wouldn't accept Islamcist rule. It CAN'T happen, at least not in the forseeable future. But I'm not so sure that a fascistic National Front government isn't possible. They now have greater representation in Parliament than the Socialist or Communists, who were a dominant bloc for at least a part of the time while I was there. And trust me--I even wrote on this back in 1988--there was more terrorist violence against North Africans and Blacks by rightist thugs, than violence against white Frenchmen by North African Muslims...at least at that time.
Ron) Aka Sa Ra Heru Says:
February 6, 2012 at 8:58 am
I was greatly displeased with the so-called historical reference to Brotha’s portrails of there actions in the film. However going in I knew that in a system of racism/white supremacy, the only way the oppressor would promote, fund anything positive relating to Afrikan life or circumstances is when it benifits the system of racism/white supremacy. The salt in the wound was the pilot’s fixation with the white woman, (discusting to say the lest) there were no sista’s in the medical wards or anything. Truly a made for Gollywood movie to capture the minds or confused (VWS) people.
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Kushite Prince Says:
February 7, 2012 at 10:32 am
As a black man I was insulted to NOT see any sistas in this film. The black woman was made totally invisible. Black women have always stood by their men. And this clown of a pilot”Lighting” was so head over heels for a white chick?? This was disgusting! A total slap in the face! This was just more interracial propaganda from The Beast. I wanted my money back. Hollyweird always has an agenda. That’s what black people have to realize. Therefore,we must always have our third eye open at all times.
how do any of them rappers that say they believe God is the reason for their success? as if God would use you to encourage people to sell drugs, join gangs, have sex with any and everybody, love money more than him. Come on people wake up that is not of God
"In a 2011 Gallup poll, 84 percent of whites and 96 percent of blacks said they approved of interracial marriage."
funny how a higher percentage of blacks than whites welcome interracial marriage, even though blacks have a history of not being welcomed by whites. i've noticed that whenever i've so much as suggested that blacks stick with their own, other blacks would immediately jump up and furiously call me "stupid," "racist," and a slew of other names. i've never in my life witnessed whites coming to the defense of IR dating/marriage to the degree that blacks do. it irks the hell out of me that our people fight so hard for the acceptance and love of the people that generally couldn't give two s____ about us.
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CREE-EIGHT Says:
February 7, 2012 at 10:41 am
SO, SO , Sooo glad to hear this coming from a black male. It means a lot for black females to have that verbalized support and understanding of this issue—for both males AND females. Thank you, sir.
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TrojanPam Says:
February 7, 2012 at 5:10 pm
Read your on-point review of ‘Red Tails’ and I agree wholeheartedly. I was surprised when I discovered (over the years) how timid we BW were when it came to speaking truth to BM
it is such a contradictory mix of “superwoman BW” VS the “timid BW who is so afraid of alienating BM that we are mute about their betrayals. I think it is due to our secret understanding that the bond between us is so fragile, it wouldn’t take much to break it altogether.
It is a terrible position for a group of women who were brutalized by 500 years of slavery and racism, in a world that hates black people and females — to know we must fend for ourselves. At that point, whatever good will we can squeeze out of our fragile relationships becomes too precious to risk losing by speaking the truth.
Also, I think BW take out a lot of our pain and anger over these betrayals and mistreatment on other BW because we have internalized the LIE that the BW’s feelings matter not to anyone but herself
and so BW take this position with an ease that is heart breaking
I think your review is something that all BM and BW should read and seriously think about. We are too quick to accept the white racist interpretation of our images and history, which I suspect is part of our need for white validation as in:
“That white man Lucas stood up for black people, he’s a good white man, he’s a brother now!”
to
“Look at us, white world, do see how brave and strong we can be? Won’t you change your minds about mistreating us once you see this film?”
as though white people are mistreating us because they didn’t know how great the Tuskegee airmen were and now that a white man (Lucas) made this movie, it will stop whites from calling us “n_____r” and being racist.
Keep speaking TRUTH, Sis, because there is NO WAY a black man could have made a movie about white men, left white women out of the movie altogether , hooked up the blondest, blue-eyed white man with a beautiful BW
and had white people applauding and praising our film.
In fact, they wouldn’t have supported it at all.
It is a shame to NOT see the women that look like your mothers, sisters, daughters, friends, lovers, and wives
and not even notice their absence
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EdwardH Says:
February 7, 2012 at 6:04 pm
As a practice – due primarily to the sensitivity of my work within the Information Security sector, I try to stay out of online forum, as they are ALL monitored by three-lettered governmental agencies.
However, because I am really passionate about this area of concern, and REALLY love my people, I have chosen to share a recent E-mail message that I wrote to a colleague – asking my thoughts of the movie, “Red Tails.”
This colleague was very interested in my thoughts, as I am a member of the Detroit Chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen, Incorporated. I have the good fortune of knowing several original Tuskegee Airmen, and have heard the actual real-life stories of several of the Airmen that were being portrayed in the film.
Here is the question that was asked of me by a colleague, whose name I have changed in order to protect her identity:
Thanks Edward. …And we’re proud to know you! Looking forward to seeing the movie. Do you know if it has stayed true to the history and persons? Sure hope so. Love, Kim.
The following was my response after having viewed the movie for the first time:
Kim,
It’s not my intent to be a spoiler, but the truth of the matter is that George Lucas failed to stay true to the real life events. However, he was successful in perpetuating the Hollywood status quo of showing and defining Blacks in its’ own image and likeness, which is decidedly racist.
The outline sketches of stories that occurred are there. However, for anyone who actually knows the segregated history and circumstances under which the Tuskegee Airmen were required to serve, George Lucas chose not to deal with the actual history as it was.
Here is a case in point:
Hollywood has engaged in an overt practice for years, which deliberately refuses to show African American men and women in Positive, Loving Relationships. In Hollywood’s blueprint, it serves their purposes and agenda for the world to only see us as dysfunctional, and wholly incapable of healthy romantic situations that would propagate and perpetuate ourselves as a group that God created. It is very conspicuous that anytime you observe a Black woman in a supposedly romantic relationship on the big screen, she has to be shown with someone other than a Black man (Translation-White male to the rescue). However, if she happens to be coupled with a man from her own ethnic community, the couple is usually depicted as down-trodden, profoundly impoverished, or the Black man is encased in the role of abusive husband or father . By contrast, Hollywood seems committed to showing Black men as pleasure objects for White women. In this particular exhibit, a Tuskegee Pilot became romantically involved with an Italian woman living in a nearby village. The other template that routinely gets perpetuated is that of effeminate Black man. Hollywood has played this particular hand so frequently, a critically thinking person would be left with no other conclusion than Hollywood has committed its work to the continued degradation and disintegration of the African American Family.
True to Hollywood’s form, George Lucas stayed loyal to the standard script. What was historically represented by the Tuskegee Experiment was the cream-of-the-crop “healthy, talented, brilliant African American Men and Women,” who were responsible for orchestrating and maintaining every conceivable aspect of an ALL-NEGRO Air Force Base, which was located in Ramitelli Air Base, Italy. Everyone from the very top commander to the lowest ranking none-support personnel were Black. However, the one pilot who finds love in Lucas’ version of the storyline, had to drive miles around the countryside to establish and cultivate a romantic relationship with a woman who didn’t speak his language, and he never learned to speak hers throughout the entire movie.
In the meantime, the real history, based upon details conveyed by real Tuskegee Airmen speak of the Beautiful Black Brilliant, Shapely, Substantive Women that were stationed at every base where the Airmen were segregated. Additionally, African American women in the Army Nursing Corps were in sufficient numbers – sufficiently available, as the majority were single (never married). According to some of the honorable Airmen that I have had the good fortune of knowing, life had its challenges, but overall it was great! There was an entire Corps of Tuskegee Nurses (100% African Women), Tuskegee Doctors, Lawyers, Chaplains, Chefs, and a significant number of Maintenance Personnel that maintained the aircraft (All Africans). This represents the actual relational possibilities of Tuskegee Airmen, who operated within a segregated military unit. However, there was not a single Black Female shown throughout the ENTIRE movie, which struck me as incredible!
For those who are aware of the subtle racial programming that shows up in the movies produced by Hollywood, this movie will be regarded as just another example of sophisticated racism that is weaved throughout movies that are regularly delivered to the American psyche. And for that reason, it will probably win an award.
As a researcher and observer of human behavior, I found it somewhat fascinating, but not enormously entertaining. I gave it a solid 2.5 out of 5 stars.
EdwardH
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CREE-EIGHT Says:
February 7, 2012 at 9:30 pm
EdwardH, thank you so much for making an exception to your policy of abstaining from online comments to make such a forceful and clear statement about the brain-trashing and revisionist history that the power of white people who are able to practice white supremacy in the entertainment industry do, in fact, practice— with devastating effect. I’m glad you are we;l-versed in the real story because I listened as a young black male said he wasn’t surprised that there were no black females in the film because there were not that many black females on the bases for the airmen to be around. And, had it not been for your comment, it’s likely that I’d never have rebutted that statement. Thank you again, sir. Please know that your time and effort in such a thorough response will pay dividends. I have hopes that, soon, we’ll see more than one outstanding film that is much more faithful to real events. Nothing any group of white soldiers did in WWII compared to the triple-war the Tuskegee Airmen fought. I look even more forward to the day when that genius and valor is focused solely on replacing the global system of white domination with a system of justice.
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TrojanPam Says:
February 8, 2012 at 10:24 am
@ Kofi
Before Cree’s movie review, I had never associated the “Red Tails” with the “red-tailed baboon” so I did a little searching and found that the “red-tailed monkey” was very common in Africa. Supposedly, the black men were called “Red Tails” because the tails of their planes were painted red.
I found a post on a Yahoo site where some white person asked,
“What is closer to a red-tailed baboon? Michele Obama? Or Barack Obama?
And this was posted THREE years ago, so it is clear that there is a connection between red tails, monkeys, and black people in the minds of racist man and racist woman
I could almost hear some white people snickering as black people wax eloquently about what a great movie “Red Tails” is…
But that is always a problem, letting our enemies create our images and tell our stories and expecting accuracy. That is just not a logical outcome OR expectation.
When I think of white women writing books like “The Help” making millions of dollars by telling BW’s stories I tried but couldn’t think of a single black female author who has attempted or been rewarded for telling a WW’s story . I suspect white people don’t give book and movie deals to black authors who step outside the bounds of what white people think of as “black writing”
Regarding your comment on “The Help” I haven’t seen it (and really don’t plan to)
If black men were absent I think that is more evidence that the white media manipulators want to keep BM and BW separated.
The difference between “Red Tails” and “The Help” is — in my opinion — these black women were NOT uplifted or turned into heroes or heroines, nor did any of them have a romance with a white male.
Given the circumstances of black females cleaning up dirty , nasty, trifling, and lazy white women’s houses, I doubt any BM in the audience cared whether there were black males shown as the love mates of these downtrodden black females.
But you do raise an interesting point. Since I didn’t see the movie, did any of the BW have a man?
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mixedracebeauty03 wrote:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3559 0365/Elimination-of-the-Negro- The-Black-Woman-White-Man-Geno cide-NY-Times-1910
You can read it for yourself, and come to your own assessment.
Peace
This is why I am against the promotion of IRR, if it happens it happens, but a drive for IRR should be viewed with suspicion... This is not new though, they had an even bigger IRR campaign in Brazil that was discontinued in the 1950s. It was specifically set up to eradicate black people from brazil which is why the Brazilians are all mixed up...This will explain it in better detail... It was called racial whitening!
I also once found a document which was posted on a racist white forum which contained information that explained how the white supremacists were actually encouraging low class white women to date black men!... you'd better believe it!
They were claiming that segregation was the biggest mistake white America made because blacks multiplied during that time which is the opposite of what they wanted... I will try to re-find the doc and will post it here, it was deep.
I have another document that was a speech from an apartheid president of south Africa telling his government to flood South Africa with cheap white prostitutes from Europe to help infect black men!... I kid you not!!!....And there's more!
I wonder how long it will take whites to realise that they didn't just fall out of a cave all of a sudden with white skin... it took thousands of years of living in cold sun deficient Northern Europe before they mutated.
Are they going to forever struggle with the concept that Europe was inhabited by dark skinned people long before whites were even thought of?
-The Revolutionist
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SEXYBLKWOMAN wrote:
Yea its interesting they realize how promotion and the media is a powerful thing, I've said it time and time again black women all over the internet are really starting to get hip to this thing, I remember when I used to not see these couples, even though they are rare they are starting to pop up.
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Tracy Says:
February 8, 2012 at 2:48 am
I find it troubling to see that we keep looking for racist man and racist woman to betray us kindly on the big screen. George Lucas pulled a Svengali move on us by first reporting that he invested his own money into this big budget film but he believes he did a disservice to the so called African American community since it was his belief that we wouldn’t support it and no one will ever again invest in another big budget African American film, we should have said “so what”. Instead what did we do, support it. Not only did he recoup his investement, but got a chance to clown us. The name of the game is racism/white supremacy not lets lift up the so called African American communities self/esteem. This is something we must do for self. Boycott these things that are not constructive to and for us. We should know by now that given any opportunity racist man and woman will degrade us. WAKE UP!
If a Black man does anything wrong he is never completely forgiven. Chris Brown, OJ, Tiger, are just a few examples. A white guy can do all the wrong he wants, and even still be considered a viable option for president ( Gingrich)
Admittedly, when the images of Rihanna came out following the fight, I was one of those who wanted to hang CB. There was so much pain in her face. Since then, I've watched the media, women's organizations and every other person with a mic try to destroy him. I don't condone what he did, but he was young, stupid and he has paid his debt for it. He's beyond talented (although it's not evident of late). If Charlie Sheen can shoot Nicole Kidman, beat Denise Richards and his ex-wife and still land a multi-million dollar contract, why can't Chris?
I remember the news back in the day about Sean Penn holding Madonna hostage in their basement when they were married back in the mid 80's. He kicked her a_____ too. He got a second chance and a couple of Oscars.
Mel Gibson insults Blacks and Jews with a stream of consciousness. It just flow off his tongue like nobodies business. He's does it regularly, he manhandled that ex-GF of his. What does he get? People in the industry letting him slide with a stern tongue lashing. Then it's back to "it's just good ol'Mel".
Tommy Lee beat the brakes off of Pamela Anderson in more ways than one. Nobody mentions that anymore. He did numerous percussion guest appearances on collaborations.
The list goes on but Chris Brown won't be able to live this down until maybe another 10-15 years min. It's almost like he's in a virtual prison even though he has his freedom.
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Yeah that's because they're all white,white folks crimes and sins don't stick to them.It's always room for forgiveness when judged by their own.
-smittyboy7
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TrojanPam Says:
February 8, 2012 at 2:17 pm
@ Tracy
It is troubling but it is also very predictable for a destroyed people who have never left the slave plantation, and must rely on the slave owners interpretation of the outside world (the real world), and worst yet, do not even know we are still slaves
we have never been allowed to heal from 400 years of brutality and racist man and racist woman continue to pile on the damage until WE STOP THEM
Unfortunately, we spend more time distrusting each other
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Thwack Says:
February 8, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Yeah, its an old pattern. “Blade” was another movie where a black male “super hero”
“didn’t get the girl”.
I wonder if Snipes complained about it?
Im still working on a theory about this phenomenon, but for now I’ll take a page out of Cress theory and say it may make white people feel insecure/inadequate when they see a black couple express sexual affection on the big screen?
Its just a suspicion.
Many Black people seem to have a certain potentcy/vitality… in their style of communication, and sexuality is a form of communication; as is dance, music and other art forms.
Maybe the “loverless black hero” is a way to keep black people from “changing the game” of what it means to be a hero.
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TrojanPam Says:
February 8, 2012 at 2:13 pm
@ Thwack
Your suspicions are right on point.
That was the main theme of our book, “The Interracial Con Game” because the evidence that “black love/sex is taboo” is too overwhelming to deny it.
I think you’re right, everything black people do well seems to make white people more insecure. Our failures VALIDATE them and make them feel normal
because secretly I suspect that they know they are not, otherwise, why the need to inferiorize all non-white people? That just doesn’t add up to healthy self-esteem…
In our book, there was a black female who was said she asked why there were more black men and women in movies and films making love and the white person she asked (i forget the exact quote) said, “White america isn’t ready for black love”
or something to that effect.
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I thought I'd share my little story with you all since this forum is full of hate!
I'm a 25 year old Black American woman who just got engaged!! My man is a 26 year old Black African, and he proposed to me last weekend. We've been dating for about 3 years. We met during the last year of college when he was studying Engineering and I, social work.
I'm so happy to have found a wonderful Black man with family values and strong work ethnic. He is my hero and inspiration because he came from poverty in Africa and made something of himself. He is now doing his Masters degreeinEngineering. He is a great role model for the young Black boys in our community.
I'm tell you ladies, never let a good Black man go! They are out there, you just need to be patient and not be stuck up about getting ballers. And don't look over the great Black men who might not have "Swagger" but who are great partners.
Oh, and open up to foreign Black men also. Another one of my girlfriends is now dating an African man, and she is amazed at the level of quality some of these men are.
That's great! I'm a Black African woman and I'm engaged to be married with Black American Man. He is in Med School. He is also great role model to young black american and african males.
I love your post and it shows the love between us African women and African American men as well.
We all need to be patient when finding partner, many of my African sisters are looking for AA man to marry as well. I tell them like you said to be patient, and lots of them have found good black American man.
I think that we all blacks need to marry each other no matter where we located on the earth. Black love is Beautiful, and I love my Black American Man, he is the best man ever of all!
-Tam
This is what I'm talking about! BLACK LOVE IS ALIVE AND STRONG. I don't know who these people on topix are trying to fool but black men and black women love eachother it's a fact and it will never die. Make some black babies lol and teach them to uplift the community.
-Near Future
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Tam wrote:
That's great! I'm a Black African woman and I'm engaged to be married with Black American Man. He is in Med School. He is also great role model to young black american and african males.
I love your post and it shows the love between us African women and African American men as well.
We all need to be patient when finding partner, many of my African sisters are looking for AA man to marry as well. I tell them like you said to be patient, and lots of them have found good black American man.
I think that we all blacks need to marry each other no matter where we located on the earth. Black love is Beautiful, and I love my Black American Man, he is the best man ever of all!
You know I just returned from Barcelona Spain where I took my beautiful African Queen on our 3 year Anniversary. I gave her the works this time and some people even say i went overboard!
I have a even bigger surprise for her coming up in another month,.....I'm buying her another boat! She loves going out on the water and catching the view! I never knew that as an AA male i'd find the love of my life in my African Queen, but i did, and she's enjoying only the finest treatment!
Good luck to You all and enjoy your partners! I always knew us AA's and A's are nothing like they say we are on the net!
February 8, 2012 at 4:37 pm
TrojanPam, here is another one, Morpheous in the Matrix.
I suspect by the time of the third Matrix, this “oversight” was becoming more of a distraction, and since they ran out of valid plot material, they decided to reunite Morpheous with an old flame “Niobi”.
But they even had to sabotage that by:
A. Making it apparent that Morpheous and Niobi broke up on bad terms and still harbored some resentment between them.
B. That wasn’t enough, they had to make it worse by leaking some vieled idea that Commander Lok was involed with Niobi past or present in some way….
So for the final movie of the trilogy, you were presented with 3 main black characters all in pretty much constant conflict/confusion/resentment/jealousy of each other.
(((shakin my head)))
In one scene where Morpheous and Niobi are trying outrun the robots, they even have her yell at him; “can’t you keep up!”
Meanwhile, Neo and Trinity’s affection for each other is constantly demonstrated on a level that is so deep and vast its almost “above sexual” (even though they did get a f__K scene.
To sum up, they key to this problem is people like us making our own movies.
The technology has never been cheaper; the problem is the talent.
Im making mine.
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LBM Says:
February 9, 2012 at 8:43 am
And this is why I agree that Black Love truly is a REVOLUTIONARY Act(ion). If it wasn’t there wouldn’t be such efforts to usurp it. Lucas is sexually infecting a Black female with his anti-human virus so he tells her through the big screen – healthy Black men want white females and only jacked up ones (burned up dude) “want” you. This thing of white domination is diabolically masterful – until WE wake the hell up. If we REALLY want to fight this disease, we will commit to be with each other, protect each other, procreate each other. That’s what the anti-humans DON’T WANT.
Some of us will join CREE in discussing whether we’re REALLY prepared to do the work of seeing ourselves in all of our “crystal Blackness” later on. If we can really be honest about “how Black is too Black?” perhaps we can begin to feel for each other as we should and thus not allow the Lucas’ of the world to get away with such insults.
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GodBless Says:
February 12, 2012 at 6:41 pm
I’m quite disgusted by this thread. Not that it was not constructive, because it certainly was, but none of the black males thought it to be appropriate to apologize for the umbrage and anguish that black females have suffered from us (black males) consciously, unconsciously, directly, or indirectly.
Even though I (a black male) have not committed (and a number of other black males have not committed) any crimes against black females (as a whole, or individually) detailed in this article or out side this article, if feel I must apologize for the crap that many black males have directly or indirectly allowed or committed against our black females.
In conclusion: I fully understand that black males and black females are both victims (the primary targets) under the system of white supremacy. Even though this is the bitter reality, I still feel compelled and find it apropos to apologize to all black females whom have suffered victimization or pain from any black man directly or indirectly. I also wanted to let black females know that we do (black males) care and love you, even though we many not express it.
Again my apologies,
Sincerely,
A concerned and intensely victimized black male:
God Bless, Peace, & Black Love
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CREE-EIGHT Says:
February 12, 2012 at 8:18 pm It would be appropriate to tell you, that I think I’m gonna cry. THANK YOU. Sincerely.
Without this man (the Honorable Marcus Garvey) alot of black Africans in the 4 corners of the world wouldn't of waken up to put it lightly. He is one of the greatest black leaders in human history. Before Dr. King, Before Malcolm X, before Kwame Ture, and before Angela Davis, there was Marcus Garvey. Many black leaders spoke similar words like Garvey long before Marcus Garvey was born.Yet, Marcus Garvey was the first African to speak of black liberation that reached millions of black folks worldwide (in a higher level). So, here are his words. Some individuals don't even know how he talked and here is his voice. He's an inspiration not only for black people, but for any group of people desiring cultural, mental, and spiritual liberation from oppression. The enemy of us as human beings is oppression & supremacists. United, we can win this struggle for liberation. Also, black unity is always better than the status quo. So, it is great for a black male or a black female to know their great, enriching heritage, to love black people, and to fight for righteousness throughout the globe.
The following video below is according to one source:
This is NOT a speech by the Hon. Marcus Garvey, but rather a PERFORMANCE by the Guyanese actor Ron Bobb-Semple.
Any SERIOUS student of Garveyism should recognize the historical inconsistencies.
There are only TWO known recordings of Mr. Garvey speaking, which were made in late July or early August 1921 and released as a two-sided record.
They are widely available online, but YouTude doesn't allow me to post any links. I have the honor to be
Cordial-Lee yours,
Paul Lee
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There is an upsurge in black males in Universities. And those are the ones that are changing the tide.
I hold a masters degree in finance and i married a beautiful black woman. She is the apple of my eye.
There is nothing more strong and beautiful like BLACK LOVE.
-Black Famous
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Words on BLACK LOVE:
Rach wrote:
I thought I'd share my little story with you all since this forum is full of hate! I'm a 25 year old Black American woman who just got engaged!! My man is a 26 year old Black African, and he proposed to me last weekend. We've been dating for about 3 years. We met during the last year of college when he was studying Engineering and I, social work. I'm so happy to have found a wonderful Black man with family values and strong work ethnic. He is my hero and inspiration because he came from poverty in Africa and made something of himself. He is now doing his Masters degree in Engineering. He is a great role model for the young Black boys in our community. I'm tell you ladies, never let a good Black man go! They are out there, you just need to be patient and not be stuck up about getting ballers. And don't look over the great Black men who might not have "Swagger" but who are great partners. Oh, and open up to foreign Black men also. Another one of my girlfriends is now dating an African man, and she is amazed at the level of quality some of these men are.
Congratulations!:-) i am as well, to a beautiful, strong Black Man!
-yeahright
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2 Carol wrote:
Congratulations, this is still a normal occurance in many black families....
millions of American black men and women are still getting married...
millions of black women are still getting married as virgins....
the media only focuses on the worst in the black community....
but there are still strong, thriving pockets of black communities in the USA.
I agree, and my husband I are that example also. BTW we both come from two parent married homes! We have been married for 23 years! I pray my sons find true love also.
This from the same group that knowingly let the country be sold out to "Free Trade" (not fair trade because it's not a level playing field. How can you compete with slave waves?).
This same party is trying to push through again the previously rejected and deceptively misnamed "right to work" legislation which basically takes away even more benefits, lowers wages even more and takes away worker's rights to collectively bargain for a fair wage. All the while putting even more money into the pockets of the business owners.
Firefighters regardless of race, should not be a "discount special" worked for "chump change".
Who wants to be helped by an Emergency rescue person that is overworked, underpaid and totally burnt out and distracted because he or she can't put food on the table anymore?
I have seen some unions where I had my criticism but overall, there are many places where without an intermediary, many individuals would be exploited and have no voice in their work safety conditions, wages or benefits. Being able to have a say in your job is actually
more like democracy than the communist picture painted by propagandists looking to justify stripping workers of their benefits and rights (that, by the way, is like communism or more appropriately, fascism).
This ad is nothing more than the guilty party trying to deflect attention by pointing the finger at conditions that he set up in the first place.
Two forced taxpayer funded bailouts and after all the corporate welfare, still the economy is sputtering.
The actual people who enable businesses to run and buy products and services need a bailout.
Are there people so wealthy and detatched from reality that they would greedily destroy the source of their wealth and those who service their homes and neighborhoods just
to see a short term profit?
Most of the "not spending" is an attempt to justify putting the same obstructionists; who are letting roads, highways and bridges decay and go unpatched, back into office.
I don't know if anywhere in the Asian culture there is a term similar to "Uncle Tom" or "sell out" but if they do have such a term, I have no doubt this woman is hearing it.
Even though she's representing China, I expected the ad writers to ignorantly have her saying:
"Me love you long time".
This ad is nothing but further insult to those who understand the hypocrisy of the person making the accusation.
What's amazing is that that Asian woman agreed to do this. How embarassing for the American Asian/Chinese population.
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californio wrote:
I have not read him but had to sit and listen to him speak.
Yes I know Racism exist but he like the the boy who cruied wolf.
Wolves exist but cry wolf all the time and NO ONE is going to believe when a real wolf shows up.
Same with r/acism , it exist but you Liberals keep crying Racism when ever you hear some thing you dont like or anyone disagrees with you on ANYTHING.
Fact is the vast majority of Conservatives have no problem getting behind some body like JC Watts or the above governors I mentioned.Yet because we feel Obama a poor leader we must be racist.
Well, if you haven't READ Wise you have at best a superficial grasp of where he's coming from. I know conservatives will support--at least sometimes--blacks who support their rightist philosophies; most often they're blacks who either comfort their white conservative peers by supporting the the view that the only problem (or at least main problem) is not racism but Blacks complaining about racism. Conservative whites support only those Blacks who are quiet about racism. And when one of those conservatives---like Juan Williams in his interview with Newt Gingrish--gets the nerve to even raise the issue of racism, he or she is promptly "put in his place" (as one female supporter praise Newt for doing to Juan Williams). Yep, uppidy Negroes are still being put in their place...and if anyone protests, well they're just "whining" or "crying wolf,"
-Savant
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To say we as a race are divided is an understatement.I watch neither show but,find her comment about the african american dream offensive.Why? not just talk about the lady.Why generalize African Americans.What was funny about her comments?The black men defending her,should be ashamed of themselves and the sisters defending her.She will continue to stereotype blacks because we will still support her.Damn shame.
Chelsea Handler is an ignorant white person. No one gave her the right to comment on the lives of African Americans. Calling Phaedra the "African American dream", was unneccessary and uncalled for. Wake up people! This is the second borderline racist comment this chick has made and yet we are still willing to listen to her ignorance instead of setting her straight. It doesn't matter that you thought the grape soda comment was funny or you think Phaedra is ignorant, bottomline Chelsea Handler shouldn't be saying anything. Honestly, it's like when white people use the n-word. Ms. Handler doesn't understand enough about African American culture to even go there.
Anyone that knows anything about reality tv should know these shows are edited in a way that takes the most innocent of comments completely out of context. Furthermore, when you show only a clip of an edited episode who knows what was really going on.
It doesn't even matter if Phaedra is married to an ex-con. The key there is ex. Most of these men pay their debt to society and they want to move on. It's society that wants to constantly remind them how much of a screw-up they are.
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Anne wrote:
The greed is on the part of corporations that have gotten wealthier partly with exorbitant tax breaks and the outsourcing of jobs to other countries for much cheaper labor. Do you seriously think anyone in his or her right mind "envies" the ethically and empathetically challenged Willard Romney for all his wealth, or corporations whose leaders ill-treat their workers that help them produce their wealth? Not everyone wants to be rich, but they do want to live lives with dignity without having to choose one necessity of life over another. Considering that "red" states are where welfare is most common, and which score quite low in measuring certain qualities of life like obesity, teen pregnancy, and drop out rates, it's ironic that you are still echoing the phony meme about how Democrats promote "sloth and greed."
Finally someone on Topix understands what really has happened to America. The southern states are the poorest and least educated, yet they will continue to support the Rich white CEO's and Politicians who sell them out every election.
-Wise American
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That's a tired joke, especially since most politicians these days resort to teleprompters. Actually, Barack Obama--who is continually being called a Muslim Communist, illegal alien, and so forth by the Right--is perhaps closest among contemporary politicians who is as articulate are the more articulate statemen of at least the 1960s. But Lincoln/Douglass style debates belong to a bygone era--an era when people who could read used to do so, and often didn't shy away from literature, history, etc. Also before the era of Youtube, ipods, etc. As for Newt Gingrich, I understand that he was supposed be an historian. However, he only sounds like a scholar when you compare him to even lesser lights with whom he's competing in the Republican primaries. Even SBT's Maceo could sound brilliant in that crowd. LOL!
-Savant
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Long before people were aware of cyberstalking and racist groups organizing online and tech enhanced offline stalking/harrassment, a lot of people said I was exaggerating.
I regret that it has gotten worse and that it has taken me years to recover from being drugged due to a discrediting smear campaign by among others, a resentful and vengeful racist and closet gay white dude angry that I intentionally would have nothing to do with him.
(could be the reason so many white racists continue to lurk in here like disgusting love sick puppies. After all, who hangs around someone they don't like and "claim" isn't worth their time?)
but I am glad that the reality and the truly extreme level of sickness of some racists lurking in and infiltrating Black websites and other endeavors is, more and more, being exposed and called out by other Brothaz and Sistahs.
At that time, I was exposing a lot of the "Murdoch" dirt as many who visited my site back in the day may remember. I have no doubt that a follower of the fascist Fox "Nazi" mindset was also instrumental in the very complex website hacking, financial account manipulation and "way beyond word of mouth rumor mongering" that encouraged many around me as well as strangers in my area to knowingly and sometimes unknowingly intensify the situation.
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Just check out Eric Cantor's fb page and read the hate that is allowed there non-stop.
I viewed a show that brought it up that this ASIAN female was an actress speaking pigeon english on purpose. False bold narrative attempt here I see. RIGHTWING REPUBLICAN'S ARE AGAINST OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS TO PLACES LIKE CHINA AND ABROAD? LOL & HA HA! Hard sell when they are so against the taxation of AMERICAN COMPANIES, that have off shore accounts. Cayman islands PO BOXES? Just look at MITT ROMNEY when asked about his wealth? HE appears like a life sized Ken doll doing an erectile disfunction commercial. And the rightees send in their control squad to hit the airwaves saying,"Why should any successful American be penalized? Thats funny too. When brought up that MITT killed Jobs they then say ",But his wealth trickled down to the poor". They are hilarious.
i must admit, a lot of these campaign attack ads are hilarious as s___ in their almost childlike simplicity. but yes, this is racist...the GOP candidates have already ceased to surprise me.
Michelle Obama is a well rounded human being and she happens to be Black. For those of you that think her dancing and doing push ups is wrong is just plain stupid. She is just showing that she is not Off Limits and she is just like everyone of us. She is a strong beautiful Black Woman who is concerned about others. He dancing and being interactive with the students is great. She's all about physical activity. Those of you complaining are mad because you probably can't dance or even do a damn pushup. She dresses approriately. When she wears short sleeves she looks d___ good in them and there are a lot of women out there who wish their arms looked that good. They wish they look as good as she does in anything. She wears clothes from Targets for goodness sake people. Also clothes from unknown stylists that are now famous because of her. She has her own money too so she doesn't need to spend tax payer dollars for her vacations. What you people need to realize is the Obamas's are not poor. They had money before they moved into the white house. So stop tripping on her clothes and vacation spots and concentrate on the positive things she has done and is still doing. We need to build her up and instead of constantly tearing her down. Especially us as Black Men and Women. Jealousy is such a ugly thing. If you're concerned about what law she studied just ask her. I am sure she wont have a problem telling you
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Posted by Nixakliel
Sep 29 2011 - 1:10am
Needless to say that China, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, Bangladesh, etc... are in lands that had the World's Oldest / First Known Civilizations! Furthermore Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia are in the regions of the ancient 'Fertile Crescent' area from where both agriculture & civilization began - Well before the US or even Greece & Rome were even thought about!
IMHO: The problem w the death-penalty, especially in the US, is the way its applied- IE: generally targeting people of color & poor folks - even if they are shown to be likely innocent [IE: Troy Davis] - mainly for poly-trickal posturing [IE: so-called 'getting tough on crime' - which is code for 'getting tougher on Black & Brown folks'] rather than in the service of justice! Thus if this injustice of the application of the death-penalty can't be corrected then it should be abolished!
Hello Bappie. I'm not surprised they marked my posts.This is the type of info they don't want black people to know about. They want it to stay hidden. I actually got the information from a site that King Jabbar gave me. We were having a converstaion in our pm messages and he gave me alot of good information. That brother knows a lot to be so young.
I was not aware they called their wives Archons. I never heard that word before. But these seret socities exist fro a reason. They want to keep black people in the dark about who really has the power. When I was a kid I really thought the President was the most pwerful man in the world!lol I couldn't have been more wrong!lol But it is sad that they use black athletes,entertainers and politicians to keep the rest of us in the dark. They're all house negroes in my opinion. The truth has to be known if black folks really want to be free. We can't have libearation if we don't even know how the world works and who controls what. Know what I mean?
True. However, that is one long, labrious road with so many interconnecting byways that it may take a lifetime to learn all one needs to know about this world, who we are, our place in it and who really is running things.
Yes, the word Archons is in the Gnostic Texts which is an ancient manuscript and I am interested as to how they came about the word and started using it and why use it?
-bappie
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RBG Soldier wrote:
I found a great article on the Black Boule. I'm not sure if many black folks are familiar with this organization. I found this article very interesting.
In 1904, the first African -American Greek Secret Society was formed in Philadelphia, by Dr. Henry Minton and five of his colleagues. The Boule,(an acronym for Sigma Pi Phi) and pronounced "boo-lay"), was formed to bring together a select group of educated Black men and women.
Fashioned after Yale's Skull and Bones, the Boule historically takes pride in having provided leadership and service to Black Americans during the Great Depression, World Wars I and II, and the Civil Rights Movement.
What could the Boule offer America's Blacks in the early 20th century? Joining the exclusive secret society offered advancement and perks to select Blacks in return for loyalty to its objectives.
Excellent post bro, I will be looking into this... I never liked that "W.E.B. Dubois" character as he opposed what Marcus Garvey was trying to achieve which was "do for self and Black nationalism". Dubois fought for the exact opposite, which was for us to be amalgamated into white society and be even more reliant on them!
He's probably just cheating =( lol.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet
^^^Is this like the anti-christ? My screen started to shake when I googled the name....lol
Yes I'm familiar with the Baphomet. From what I've heard he's worshipped by many of the elite in the entertainment industry and government.I've even seen videos on Youtube where Baphomet has appered in Lady Gaga,Wiz Khalifa,Kanye West,Rihanna and Jay Z music videos. Makes you wonder what the hell is up with these celebs?
Excellent post bro, I will be looking into this... I never liked that "W.E.B. Dubois" character as he opposed what Marcus Garvey was trying to achieve which was "do for self and Black nationalism". Dubois fought for the exact opposite, which was for us to be amalgamated into white society and be even more reliant on them!
That's a very interesting point. We do have a class of blacks that have always had money and considered themselves above the average blacks. In fact, they probably hate/hated blacks more than whites if you read some of their writings. Before desegration, there was class division within our race and sometimes it was even based on color. If you're brown, stick around, if you're black, get back, lol.
They actually had a paper bag criteria to get into different social circles, like Jack N Jill.
We have a town here in NJ called Gouldtown. I guess it was named by its founder. Legend has it that it was a town of very light skinned blacks. Some so fair that if they wanted, they could pass for white. They intermarried to the point of genetic defects, mostly cognitive. That's how determined they were to keep their fair skin color. Sound familiar?
Oprah's boyfriend, Steadman is from an area (near Cape May) where they still have blacks living in shacks that have that uppity attitude. They're unbearable to be around.
-bappie
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bappie wrote:
Yes, King Jabbar is very knowledgeable on a wide range of subjects, especially subjects that relate to blacks world-wide and African history. He's deep.
Jabbar is a cool dude. He was telling me about black people in Africa,Jamaica,Europe and China. he was telling me about African queens I never even heard of. The guy is all over the place!lol He's one of the more intelligent people I've met on Topix. Many black people know a little about our own history. But he seems so well rounded about knowledge even outside of black history.He also handles himself very well in debates. I guess that's easy when you got all your facts in order.lol But seriously I think alot of these so called intellectuals here on Topix could learn a lot from him. I know I have.
-RBG Soldier
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RBG Soldier wrote:
Yes I'm familiar with the Baphomet. From what I've heard he's worshipped by many of the elite in the entertainment industry and government.I've even seen videos on Youtube where Baphomet has appered in Lady Gaga,Wiz Khalifa,Kanye West,Rihanna and Jay Z music videos. Makes you wonder what the hell is up with these celebs?
Yeah here is a photo of Marilyn Manson wearing a Baphomet shirt.
Thanks alot bro. I'm just doing my part. I feel our people need to be aware of these type of things. We still got a lot of phoneys running around here acting like black leaders. You're very correct about DuBois. He sold black folks out from the very beginning. Marcus Garvey was a big admirer of Booker T. Washington. When Washington passed away DuBois thought that was his monet to be the next big black leader. But them garvey came along and ruined all that!lol Dubious hated Garvey with a passion. He even made fun of Gavey's UNIA organization. He called it the Ugliest Negores In America! Can you believe a black man would say something like that? But I have to remend myself that he was a mulatto so he thought he was better than darker skinned blacks. What a sellout punk!
Yeah, I have looked into Dubois's philosophy and found that he claimed the best way to uplift blacks was not by "black nationalism" or "doing for ourselves" but by joining with the whites, he helped set-up the NAACP which was funded by rich whites who stayed in the background controlling an organisation that was meant to help blacks move forward!
He said that Marcus Garvey's methods were wasteful, illogical and almost illegal, he also fought agains Marcus Garvey's "Black Star Liner shipping company!... It was only when the whites started turning against him (U.S. Department of Justice) did Dubois start to realise that whites don't want blacks in positions of power unless they are puppets.
Dubois then tried to rid the NAACP of its white board of directors but failed and had to leave the organisation, ultimately he ended up living in and dying in Accra, Ghana.
The moral of the story is that if we try to better ourselves by climbing white organisations they will eventually view you as an "Uppity Negro" who must be taken down a peg or two. These Uncle Toms like "Dubois" always learn the hard way!
Marcus Garvey had the right ideas for the upliftment of our people which was stand-up and do for ourselves, Marcus Garvey's philosophy is the most relevant for black people at this point in time!!!...
-The Revolutionist
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Very interesting and helpful post. Yes, the story always seems to end that way for blacks who put their entire faith in whites, their system and hopes that they will be accepted and respected.
Look at Steele, Keyes, Cain and a few others. Once their usefulness to the Republican cause, they were cast aside like they never mattered and yet, they still do not learn from their mistakes. To be used in the most disrespectful way possible and then to be cast aside. Of course, we've always had self-enriching negros among us who are out for self and there's not much you can do about that type of person
-bappie
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bappie wrote:
We should question everything. That's why we have the ability to think. We should never follow anyone or believe anything blindly but question everything we've been taught. Religion, history, governments the who kit and kabodule. We should never join anything nor give our allegiene(sp) to anything until we've throughly checked it out.
Right on.
-Redefined
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The racism (sometimes only thinly veiled) within the Republican Party is so obvious one has to be stupid or disingenuous to deny it. I'm not sure whether you're stupid, disingenuous or both.
Every honest and intelligent person knows that given that in the minds of many whites "welfare" is a code word reference to "lazy n____s"--regardless of how many white poor subsist on welfare--and the expression "welfare President" in reference to Obama simply reinforces the racist appeal.
Even if Gingrich isn't a racist himself (which I doubt), then he is certainly appealing to racism to arouse his base.
As for the black republicans who promote the reactionary and racist Republican agenda,it is THEY who need to explain themselves.
-Savant
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attai1 wrote:
Yes Sir, i agree globally except on the conclusion.
It's very important that these radical white racists be visible here : for the too optimistic Black people who are ready to endorse the "get over it" mindset or feel that Obama USA are now color blind, it's a good though stinging (and revolting) reminder of the sad reality.
Like i said before, my AA Mentor who is not a ghetto man feels like a vital need to go OUT of the USA from time to time to relieve the tension of the not-so-hidden racial tensions that still innerve the American society.
Plus it has been very informative for me as a foreign observer to realize how deeply rooted the KKK mentality is in many layers of white America.
You see the bestialization is not common in anti-Muslim rhetoric in Europe for example to slowly go back to the thread topic.
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Your AA tutor expresses a feeling which many educated Blacks express, and even a good number of not-so-educated Blacks express: Sometimes we'd like to pack our bags and just go away for awhile. Maybe not permanently, but for awhile. Though fully aware of Le Front National and problems of racism in France, I still cannot deny that I simply felt that I could breathe more freely in Paris than in any city in America, my own country.
Even if Richard Wright exaggerates, he wasn't simply lying when he wrote "There is more freedom in ONE BLOCK of Paris than in the whole of the United States." I fully understand if North Africans disagree, I will not claim my experience applies to all. But I'm not the first AA to say this. W.E.B. Du Bois stated in his AUTOBIOGRAPHY that were it not for his commitment to the Black struggle in America, he might have stayed in France permanently. I admit I was tempted
Yes, I first met Dr. Cornel West in the 1980s while I was a student. He's an engaged activist intellectual of the left. His dad, a preacher out in California, on one or more occasions had Dr. King speak at his church while Cornel was a kid. Cornel for awhile came under the influence of the Black Panthers, and I think he told me that the knew Bobby Seale and Huey P. Newton.
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bappie wrote:
You're absolutely right. Some blacks still suffer from the invented racial classifications. There is no such thing as race other than human race. There are superficial and some genetic differences, however in terms of species, we're all the same. If it weren't true, we would not be able to mate with different races.
Race is a construct of whites (the minority) in a brilliant move to elevate themselves above all other races based on skin color, eye color and hair texture. This faulty logic is soundly disproven when one can find a man in India, darker than the darkest Sub-Saharan Black, but who has what is considered caucasian hair. Now, as black as that indian is, they will say he's caucasian, LOL.
True, this is the way the ancient people viewed humans. They saw us as all the same with a few minor differences! but it was the wickedness of british that started to argue that Blacks were not fully human, they even went as far as using many scientists (including racists such as Darwin) to back-up their ludicrous theories on blacks being half-ape, half-human creatures who had no souls!
Before racism, humans used to judge each other on merit rather than skin colour.
This could mean that we were mentally advanced as a "human species" back in the ancient days!
Racism was actually the cave mans mentality brought back to life, they used to separate themselves due to different hair colours and so on, but you would think that modern man would be advanced enough to of moved on from that way of thinking... I guess not!!!...
We are technically one race because we came from one species (Ancient African Homo sapiens), however, this would mean that blacks are the original human race and all others are actually "sub-races" because they are here due to genetic mutations in the original African DNA.
Think of humans as if they were flowers in a garden, the flowers mutate and become different variations that adapt to their environment by changing certain aspects of their DNA, but all the flowers are still flowers that have definite differences and colours which should be celebrated as they give the garden variety...
But unfortunately, one sub species mutated into "WEEDS" which are dominating our beautiful garden and are either stifling or killing off the other flowers, all because the weed believes it has a god given right to own every plot of land it sees, the weed has no idea that it is actually destroying the entire garden!... If you know what I mean!
Very interesting and helpful post. Yes, the story always seems to end that way for blacks who put their entire faith in whites, their system and hopes that they will be accepted and respected.
Look at Steele, Keyes, Cain and a few others. Once their usefulness to the Republican cause, they were cast aside like they never mattered and yet, they still do not learn from their mistakes. To be used in the most disrespectful way possible and then to be cast aside. Of course, we've always had self-enriching negros among us who are out for self and there's not much you can do about that type of person.
Far too many blacks have learned the hard way that whites will often put black people in certain positions of authority to use them for a specific purpose, example, Obama is being used to help improve America's international image, however, it is now clear that they have absolutely no respect for Obama whatsoever.
This is what happens when we put too much trust into a system that was built by the enslavement of our ancestors!
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Any SERIOUS student of Garveyism should recognize the historical inconsistencies.
There are only TWO known recordings of Mr. Garvey speaking, which were made in late July or early August 1921 and released as a two-sided record.
They are widely available online, but YouTude doesn't allow me to post any links. I have the honor to be
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