Thursday, May 31, 2012

Political Facts






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Raymond_Shaw44 19 hours ago in reply to msblkwidow I suggest you start reading books on how our banking system works with respect to eviscerating the middle class by "STEALING" the wealth acquired by it. Then you will begin to understand where Dr. West is coming from. The thing you don't get is, Dr. West has been making the same charges to all of Obama's predecessors and he (like millions others) thought Obama would represent a shift to the paradigm. This has not happened and therefore he speaks up. Your implication that this is just some black man expressing self hatred by attacking another black man is cheap and dismissive. ________________



The young man does DESERVE it regardless who his parents are. He is a good athlete and maintains a good GPA. Haters gonna hate. 

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Its an athletic scholarship! Its earned and clearly he earned it. Any scholarship earned is deserved because you worked hard to get it. Family wealth has nothing to do with it. Its not financial aid

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"There’s something about being Black that makes others far more aware of when you’re allegedly milking the system in ways that would be overlooked if you were White."
That was my first thought. It is the same school of thought as the guy who wrote the article criticizing how Jay Z made his money and whether or not if he should be accepted. I like to refer to it as "unforegivable blackness," based off of the documentary of the first black heavy weight.  There are people out there who refuse to sit idly by and watch the system work for a black man. They just won't tolerate it.
Black people there are a lot of non-racist white folk out there and most of them will continue to be, as long as you are not or attempting to become better than them.



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 You mean the way you reactionaries were always blaming Jimmy Carter for the disasters of the Bush administrations? Neither Bush senior nor Bush junior could claim that they inherited a disaster from an IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING Carter administation. But Obama can certainly say--and TRUTHFULLY say--that he inherited a disaster from the immediately preceding BW Bush administration. And GW Bush pushed inherited an ecnomy in the BLACK, not in the red, when he took over from Bill Clinton. I won't say that the recession is the FAULT of GW because I don't believe any president can control all the workings of the national and global capitalist economy. He can only act to make it better or maybe worse. Now Obama acted to make it better, but he didn't go far enough. We really needed a TRANSFORMATIONAL president (as Colin Powell imagined obama) not the bipartisan and centrist transactional president Obama has revealed himself to be. And had Obama listend to his progressive base, both he and the economy might be in a stronger position. He probably staved off a Depression on the scale of the 1930s. He could have done more if he'd gone in for SWEEPING social reforms on the scale of FDR. He wouldn't have gotten everything, but he --and the American people!--would hav gotten more than was gotten. He should not have accepted the tax cuts in his national reconstruction act ("stimulu ") demanded by the then marginzlized Republican reactionaries. He should have pushed for SINGLE PAYER UNIVERSAL HEALTH coverage rather than the tinkering reforms that didn't even get us the public optiion. And he should have done all this within the FIRST YEAR of his presidency. While Obama has accomplished some things, he also reveals the weakness of centrist liberalism. Only a full bodied PROGRESSIVE politics and value system can move forward the society to greater prosperity and social justice. To hell with compromises with scornful reactionaries.

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In reply to JoAnn:
Joann I fully agree with your statement above and will take it a step further. It's true we will see Hollywood make sure they have positive images on the big screen showcasing successful interacial dating of black men/white women. It's an attempt to further destabilize the black family... If you can't conquer the race, you breed them out. If you notice you very rarely see white men/black women scenarios on the big screen or on tv. That's because black women are not thought of as a prize to have, however, obtaining the white man's prize is something every man should always strive to gain.
This type of mentality is pushed at your better athletic universities. I attended a division I university and I can't begin to describe the way the system has set up the relationship Btwn their football/basketball players and the white co-eds. What's even worse, in the popular club area of city would refuse to let women of color into clubs when you had certain sports teams on the vicinity, unless you were white or a white looking Cuban female.
When you can attend a major athletic university and are put in situations whereby you are mostly exposed to white women, you are going to basically date and marry what you are surrounded by.
It's something I have witnessed on many occassions and find it ridiculous and negligent to hear men say you can't help who you love or they were not out seeking a white woman, yet they make no effort to date black women!
Children/ young men are taught by action or neglect. Joann as you said, any other race can make comments on or off screen that they expect their offspring to marry Jew, Indian etc. However, black people to not set the tone of their expectations with black boys. I may have digressed or stayed sime of off the original topic, but it's a worthy subject that I felt I had to add my two cents..

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Shantell Johnson likes to forget what black people are up against in 2012 America.
Many things may change, but the chance to beat back and beat down black people fairly early in their lives does not.
This nation, as viewed through various media outlets, is still bent on telling the story of a dehumanized black existence. We are still being subjected to the historic and system psychological scarring put into place since our ancestors were forced unto shore.
Black people in this country have always been treated differently. The news media always reports on our people from the angle of "suspects." We are dehumanized on a contiuum, as were our mothers and fathers.
Black people are talked about as second-classed citizens, and we still hear stories about professionals from the men in blue, to those in banking, housing, and employment who seek to erase our numbers from their midst.
On the contrary, everything white is rosy. Even white criminals are not treated to the dehumanization on the level of blacks in the white media.
Do to various studies, we know that a white person with a criminal background will more than likely get the job than a black person with the same credentials and no criminal history.
We have heard the stories told to us by our mothers, fathers, grandfolks, and neighbors the humilliation and unfairness they have to suffer at the hands of white employers, etc.
This s____ is on a continuum with black hip hop/rappers expressing their preference for white women and others. This is a very large microphone, Shantall.
The psychological scares run deep. And just because I am an educated professional; I will not endeavor to blind my own eyes to how the wider society is taught on a generational basis to view our people. I will not speak the language of whites and pretend not to see color. Not to see injustice. Not to see the faces of our children when the media speaks of them and their families in a dehumanizing fashion.
Why don't you speak to that Shantall? Have your white man or woman. But be clear, it's isn't about you, dear: it's all about white priviledge. On a contiuum.



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What is up with black celebrities??? Why are they always caping for undercover racists???? BetweenJohn Mayer, Cheryl Cole, the Kardashians, Kim Zoliack, Gwen and countless others...when did throwing aside your pride and self respect for some ignorant bigots become cute??? I don't understand. There truly is such a thing as selling out.


-Bronze Venus


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 at the dream taking the fall for his white princess. I don't have a twitter but i will make an account just to blast those clowns. I'm going to retweet to sandra rose, concrete loop, Perez, theYBF, and other blogs that are on twitter. I suggest you rt to them too. This fuckery doesn't need to just slide. Rt to Kuntye and jay-z too.


-A Woman
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attai1 wrote:

For once i'll agree with you that First Amendment free speech is better than our European dubious legislations. The motives of these restriction laws are apparently nice but quickly some groups can use them to block free speech and even impose historical official visions, empeding academic research. There is a protest in France against these unduly restrictions.
On the free speech field, the USA are on top i honestly concede.
a whiteboi
Yes. But not always. Sometimes the first Amendment is put aide--in American history such violations of First Amendment rights have been mainly the work of rightwingers. AS in teh Alien & Sedition Acts. The Espionage act, passed in the WWI era to silence progressives like Eugene V. Debs, the IWW, and to crush the libertarian left publication called THE MASSES. The "unpopular ideas" which have been suppressed in American history has almost always been ideas of the left. Neither under Democrat nor Republican administrations has the government gone after the KKK, American nazis as they did did the Socialist Party, Industrial Workess of the World (IWW), the Black Panther Party, etc A real "war on terrorism" would have had to have begun in the 1860's with the rise of the kkk.
Frankly, I do not even deny Zaius or other racists the right to experss their crude bigotry. But I think that STORMFRONT, not AFRICAN-AMERICAN FORUM, is the place for them to exercise their First Amendment rights to promote racist propaganda.



-Savant

http://wysinger.homestead.com/ancientafrica.html



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 Albert Castro 7 hours ago

I have a quote from Donald Trumps book : Think like a champion. It came out in 2009 on Obama. "Bush had been so incompetent that any Republican would have a hard time unless they could bring back Eisenhower. Bush was a disaster for the country as well as for the Republican Party. Then he asked me about Barack Obama. I told him that Barack will need to be a great president because we're in serious trouble as a country. It hasn't been this way since 1929. So he doesn't have much choice - he will simply have to be great, which he has a very good chance of being. What he has done is amazing. The fact that he accomplished what he has - in one year and against great odds - is truly phenomenal. If someone had asked me if a black man or woman could become president, I would have said yes, but not yet. Barack Obama proved that determination combined with opportunity and intelligence can make things happen - and in an exceptional way. THEN


 Fox news interview Trump I think that that was a real killer last week when it was announced that when it was released that in the 1990s, he said (Obama) he was born in Kenya. I mean, he said it. His grandmother said it. Maybe the media should focus on what happened that changed Trumps opinion of Obama from 2009 to now and get back to the issues?


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First of all, that's not a problem. When reactionaries want to DENY you equal protection they usually know EXACTLY who you are because they want to disfranchise you. Our history--including RECENT history shows that. If Pinkyt doesn't know this, then he/she is the fool and the moron. Voter fraud is EXTREMELY RARE. It's mainly a pretext for disfranchisement. Mainly racists and fascists support the new voter restrictions--whic h is CONVENIENTLY being imposed by reactionaries very close to the November elections. Coincidence? Only if you're an imbecile.


YOu can't use the Constitution to support REQUIRING ID, esepcially when it's used to violate the equal protection clause.  


KING'S HUMANISTIC AUDACITY (Speech in Oslo at reception of Nbbel Prize) "I have the audacity to believe that peoples everywhere can have three meals a day for their bodies, education and culture for their minds, and dignity, equality and freedom for their spirits." Indeed. So, let it be for every man, woman and child on earth. FREEDOM RISING!!! 


If you choose to read Fanon as I suggested in post 658, yu may want ot read up on Negritude and colonialism (and neocolonialism) in general. As for Negritude, a major figure (and one of Fanon's teachers at the lycee) was Aime Cesaire. Check out: DISCOURSE ON COLONIALISM by Cesaire. Or his play A SEASON IN THE CONGO or his poem: RETURN TO MY NATIVE LAND  


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Frankly, I don't know many African-Americans who think THEMSELVES to be Egyptians. And I wonder if there's any EVIDENCE, any study--ANYTHING--w hich shows that a majority or even large minority of American Blacks think of themselves as Egyptians. I know a considerable number of American Blacks who believe that Egypt was originally Black, or predominantly Black. But I also think there's scholarly evidence for that belief.


-Savant


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Saturday, May 26, 2012

Cultural Information

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http://newsone.com/2017710/betty-shabazz-birthday/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14A1zxaHpD8

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The Revolutionist wrote:

Well that's all good, however, my point was that Ethiopians are mixed with Arab/caucasian DNA, the percentage will vary depending on what study you read... Also, I wouldn't dispute that they are mostly black!
When I said "Arab invasion" I wasn't speaking of any outright overnight conquest of Ethiopia, I was referring to the slow influx of Arabs over time who eventually dominated the language and culture in the East, this influx of Arabs increased after Prophet Muhammed sent his muslim followers to Abyssinia to seek refuge from pagan Arabs, up until that point Abyssinians/Ethiopians were christian!
Ethiopians are still Christians and like half speak Simitic half Cushtic.

There is no such thing as ''caucasian DNA''.

Ethiopians as a whole are 80% African + 19% Asian 1% European.

The Revolutionist wrote:

Wow, I had no idea that Ethiopia had such a huge link with the Maasai Tribe... Did you also know that the Tutsi's are Ethiopians that left the Ethiopian Highlands around 600 years ago and ended-up living in Rwanda with the Hutu's who came from Chad? Not only that, there was a travel route from East to West Africa which I forget the name of, but many Africans from war torn East fled across this route for many years and ended up in places like Nigeria.
Many Sudanese people fleeing fighting also fled to the West or Central Africa, I will look for the link and post it here!
Africans clearly moved around and migrated from one part of Africa to another, so for these clueless white people to come and tell us that our genetics are not mixed is total rubbish...
We need to start educating ourselves concerning our history and don't leave it to racist white bigots to educate us about our own continent, all he will do is speculate or tell us pure lies!
Yeah they're both mostly East Sudanic/Cushtic/

Yeah I have always got the vibe that the Tutsi were of East African admixture.

The Fulani of west Africa I believe kinda recently descend from North Africans/Nubians who migrated west they also have som Berber/North African admixture.



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The bottom line is that the Republicans know they can't win without disfranchising MILLIONS of American citizens under the masquerade of blocking illegals. Republicans are a FASCIST party.

WISCONSIN We need all to be keeping an eye on Wisconsin, and the effort to recall right wing Gov. Scott Walker. If you believe in Dr. King's dream of economic justice and democracy, then your sympathies must be with the working people of Wisconsin. Remember that Dr. King gave his life in teh struggle of striking Memphis workers for economic justice and human dignity. Dr. Kign would be in Wisconsin fighting for working people if he were still with us. Let's keep King's dream alive. Victory to the workering people of Wisconsin. Justice for the 99%!

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Extremely rare in any case. MOST people turned away a LIVING CITIZENS; the the Republican hierarchy KNOWS this--even if you right wing sheep don't/ But unlike the Repubican machinations in the 2000 election in Florida, this time those reactionaries are being WATCHED. Florida has already been warned to CEASE and DESIST its purge of voters. One more thing: the PEOPLE will not longer toleate this disfranchisement. Youth will not be as accepting as they once were. We Blacks are not just barely out of slavery as we were when we were disfrnachised after Reconstruction, and TWO GENERATIONS have grown since the 1960s who, despite persistent anti-Black racism and continued discrimination, now take for granted certain civic rights our parents and grandparent could hardly dream of. Do you REALLY believe we will take this disfranchisement schem sitting down? You you really believe there will be no push back? Moreover, the Latino peoples are also more active and defiant. And REpublicans in Florid seem especially intent on disfranchising Hispanic Americans under the phony pretext (which is precisely what it is) of blocking "illegal aliens." Do you really think the insurgent Latin citizenry will simply take this without a fight? If so, then YOU're the one who SLOW and stuck on stupid. If you believe even half of what you've posted, then you're a complacent individual with your mind in cold storage who (in Dr. King's words) is "sleeping through a revolution." You and the Right are in for a rude awakening.

The problems of purging dead voters is mainly a figment of the right wing imagination. In fact, it is whites who thrive on racism because they have benefitted materially and psychologically form the unjust system of white privilege. And if you READ Martin Luther King, Jr. you'd know that he ADVOCATED affirmative action for both the racially and economically disadvantaged. How is accumulated white privilege indicative of merit? But then meritocracy is a hoax anyway. As absurd as the divine right of kings.

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Curious Me wrote:

Any RATIONAL person who was watching that trial would have been convinced of O.J.'s guilt, but Johnnie Cochran wasn't interested in the opinion of any rational observer.
There was never any cogent contradiction of the blood trail DNA evidence left at the murder scene, or the damning testimony of Simpson's limousine driver that night.
The star studded cast of defense lawyers merely focused on elaborating on the never proven smear campaign against detective Mark Furhman.
The job description of a defence Lawyer is to get the charges against the accused dropped, why the hell would Johnny Cochran care if O.J Simpson was guilty or not?

Many white people have gotten away with murdering blacks even with a large amount of obvious evidence against them, why all this focus on a twenty year old case of one black man getting away with murder!...(not that I condone what he did).

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YOUR specious spiel concerning whether or not African-Americans should take credit for the heritage of other Peoples may have been formed to sound pleasing, but it is still, none the less, INSIDIOUSLY ABSURD.
I think African Americans have as much of a right to with any part of black history just as much as any white man has to claim any white history, that is my philosophy!
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As a counter example, I would simply offer to you the following.
I am an American and as an American I am proud to be an American.
I, also, am proud, in general, of all my fellow Americans.
What I DO NOT DO, however, is feel a part of, or dare take credit for, the accomplishments,
or, that is, heritage of
Amerindian-Americans,
Irish-Americans,
Anglo-Americans,
Swedish-Americans
German-Americans,
Chinese-Americans,
Japanese-Americans,
Korean-Americans,
Italian-Americans,
Greek-Americans,
West African-Americans,
North African-Americans,
East African-Americans,
South African-Americans,
etc.,
and so on,
and so forth.
Well unfortunately you have taken already credit for many accomplishments and inventions that have nothing to do with your people. Many many American inventions were created by a lot of people who fall into those categories yet I don't see American whites distinguishing them apart from everyday white Americans... If you say otherwise, you are simply lying your a____ off and you know it!!!


I think that African Americans have as much of a right to identify with any part of black history as much as any white man has the right to claim any part of white history, that is my philosophy!


-The Revolutionist


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First i am not Ethiopian. Second there is nothing Caucasoid about the Horn of Africans. All your Afrocentic and Eurocentric terms are irrelevant and stupid. Modern day Ethiopia is a colonial scramble of Africa construct. 

There is over 80 Different Etnic groups in Ethiopia. There are nilotics, Cushitics, Semetics, Onotics speaking groups who are all indigenous to the Area.

If you are talking about Abyssinians, the ancient and modern ones are the same. There was never an Arab Conquest in the Horn of Africa or a mass immigration. The prophets followers were only a handful and majority of Abysinians are still Christians.

My point stands Kenyans, Ugandans and Tanzanians are all from West Africa, they are not Indigenous to East Africa. we are not mixed and we are the original populations of the Horn.

-Kush the Kid

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Curious Me wrote:

you are attempting yet another slight of hand, verbally that is.
I will thank you to keep your sub-intellectual attempts at analysis of analogy off the table when addressing me, as I am merely insulted by your assumption that I might actually deem them worthy of discussion.
I don't take orders very well, so you will have to excuse me for ignoring the above paragraph!
Curious Me wrote:

What we all do as Americans, WE Americans should ALL be proud and/or ashamed, for that is our lot.
What you did either by purpose or by ignorance was to assume we ALL have the same ((HERITAGE)).
WE SHOULD NOT, and I for one, have NEVER claimed the ((HERITAGE)) of any of those listed American groups, of which I was not a member. If you are not a member of one of those particular groups mentioned,
then that is a group for which you are not entitled to claim their ((HERITAGE)), other than as Americans,
but "American" is NOT their entire ((HERITAGE)).
That part of their ((HERITAGE)) which is not "American" is not yours.
As we would say in Britain... "absolute bo___", first of all I wasn't talking about Heritage or culture.
I was talking about how whites like to brag about accomplishments that had nothing to do with their country folks, example, "us whites invented cars, we invented computers, we invented phones" and so on!
When bragging to black people about their little inventions whites never make a distinction between who's white country invented what... So my argument was that black people are entitled to do the same, meaning no matter where these blacks lived, the fact is they were black!

I have no particular interest in Egyptian culture or it's "Sun worship", just it's achievements which were largely from black or mulatto Egyptians!... It isn't as if Egypt is our biggest accomplishment, we had empires in West Africa that were much larger, richer and more powerful than Egypt, like the Songhai empire that was massive in the international Gold and ivory trade, and the Ghanian empire that was the second largest African empire who traded more or less the same, unfortunately they later got involved in trading humans/war captives to Europeans after whites decided that black labour was worth more than gold, whites later got greedy (as usual) and decided that they wanted the whole of Africa.

We are claiming Egypt because it is part of our history, nothing more nothing less!


-The Revolutionist




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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TNTGIHD5TE7O93KOU/p110


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MAX-PAIN wrote:

This from the ultimate intellectual that believe ALL tea party members are racist that hate OUR black President. It escapes you that these people love America and don't like the way it is being treated and represented around the world. Bashing Bush(not the President) is fine...WHY?...because he was a Republican that didn't pander to the slackers of America.
Name ONE thing Obama has done that is different from Bush's policies and governing.....?
This from a right wing sompleton who thinks that those who reject right wing hysteria and paranoia are "America haters."
And it seems I mentioned a number of things in another thread that Obama has done differently than Bush. But given your limited attention span and analytical skills, you probably didn't notice.
You probably also don't realize the many, more weighty, and certainly more intelligent critiques of Obama from progressives whom you stupidly think are all Obama cheerleaders.
Bush didn't pander to slackers? Hell, he was a slacker...who pandered to warmongers and corporate pirates--the real leaders of your Tea party "movement."





-Savant


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BM and BW we need to come to some common ground. The war is hurting the children and those who still love you and wish you peace. Please let's put videos up to resolve this manner. This gender war has almost torn apart my marriage and I know right then, and there we have a major problem!
I love you Black brothers no matter what. You're the cream of the crop. You're my Black Gods. Keep your head up!




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MAX-PAIN wrote:

This from the ultimate intellectual that believe ALL tea party members are racist that hate OUR black President. It escapes you that these people love America and don't like the way it is being treated and represented around the world. Bashing Bush(not the President) is fine...WHY?...because he was a Republican that didn't pander to the slackers of America.
Name ONE thing Obama has done that is different from Bush's policies and governing.....?
By the way, I don't think I've heard ANYBODY say that ALL Tea Party people are racists, though it clear to the at least reasonably perceptive that a good number are. Even some of its spokesman are worried that it may discredit the movement.
And with regard to racism, I've not only been a target of it (as has my family), but I've taken some trouble to STUDY it and not rely solely on subjective opinions. I"ve published on the subject also in journals that have appeared in American, European, African and (it has recently been reported to me) Latin American countries and universities.
If you want to challenge me on this, kindly come with something a little less subjective and amateurish that we've seen from you thus far.



-Savant


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America is Not the Same wrote:
In a straw poll done in S. Carolina where there are more blacks then white voters S. Carolina has Paul in 5th place.
Posting You Tube clips are not authentic. They can be doctured and are NOT accepted as an legitimate source of information.
Catch up people.
NO WAY WILL THE GOP NOMINATE PAUL
Paul has state this himself
He is only running to split the vote for Obama
Paul's platform lines with Obama
Do the research Sheep
Ron Paul is right on some issues, like opposing the drug war or curbing militarism,
But on a number of other issues, his positions are dubious. I think that--putting the race issues aside for a moment--Ron Paul's overall stance on many social issues relating to economic and social justice are simply archaic.
What Dr. King said about Barry Goldwaters's conservatism is true of Dr. Paul's: it's out of touch with the social and economic realities of our contemporary era.
And even if I had not known about those racist articles, I would still say of Paul what King said about Goldwater: even if he is not personally a racist, his philosophy is one which give aid and comfort to the racist. His libertarian philosophy is the ARTICULATED grounds on which he opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Thank heavens the Movement of he 1960s didn't wait for market forces to end legalized caste. I'd to hate to have to live within the narrow limits that my father and mother did.


OH YES: We really need to IMPROVE EDUCATION drastically.
Imagine answering an ANALYSIS by simply posting YouTube clips!!!



-Savant


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TrojanPam Says: May 16, 2012 at 1:17 pm

Cree,

Thanks for sharing this with your audience! It’s super important that we understand the game that is being played. We can’t control what white people think or do (a total waste of time) but we need to control and manage what we think and say and do. I have seen a disturbing trend in ‘white victimization,’ false ‘black racism,’ and white people twisting the facts to suit this purpose. There is an epidemic of crying white females aka ‘white woman’s tears’ where one can’t go a day without seeing a white female victim on TV, the news, or in the movies. All designed to portray whites as the only ones deserving of empathy, sympathy, and assistance. I have also seen a corresponding rise in anti-blackness among black people as black people become more white identified and self-hating and black-hating and confused.

White identification is by its very nature ANTI-BLACK. ANTI-BLACKNESS by black people is by its very nature ANTI-SELF Hope you all will listen to Monday’s COWS program because we’re going to talk about anti-blackness including my own. Pam

http://www.africanamerica.org/displayForumTopic/content/278684169483165088

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LAME-STREAM PRESSTITUTES IN BED W UK-US NATO, GCC & AL-CIAEDA

The Presstitute Lame-stream media got in bed w the [recently convicted in abstentia] Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld / Bliar / NeoCON cabal. Then they [and even some supposedly 'progressive' alternative media outlets IE: DN! & Al{that}Jazzeera] got in bed w UK-US NATO, the GCC Gulf Monarchs & their AL-CIAeda affiliated Rebel-Rousing Racist Lynch Mob [aka: the NTC] to cheer on the devastion of Libya & the brutal slaughtering of Khadaffi. Now these same Lame-stream Presstitutes et-al are trying to do a Libya 2.0 Redux in Syria- even shuttling some of those same AL-CIAeda racist lynch mob rebel-rousers from Libya to Syria.
So if Bin-Laden's Al-Qaeda is the mortal enemy of the US [supposedly since even before 9-11], NATO & Israel why were/are they all so buddy-buddy when it came to doing in Khadaffi & now while trying to do in Assad???  
For another take on the so-called 'Arab Spring' - particularly RE: Mubarak & Egypt see this Feb 18, 2011 article @ Tarpley.net - 'Mubarak Toppled by CIA Because He Opposed US Plans for War with Iran'... 
Tarpley's theory was that Mubarak opposed US / NATO / GCC / Israel plans to do a War Dance on Iran. One can imagine if that's so he also might not have been on-board w the UK-US NATO assault on his western neighbor [Libya], which came right after his ouster. And he might also have opposed what's happening now in Syria- which is closely connected to the war plan vs Iran. Tarpley then says that the so-called 'Arab Spring' was a CIA orchestrated smoke-screen  / 'coloredrevolt [or was possibly effectively hi-jacked as such] to topple Mubarak, Khadaffi & Assad as obstacles to US / NATO machinations in the region.


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No one is "over simplifying" anything, these people, like most republican voters and non-rich White people in America are racists that will vote against their own interests rather than vote for a Black or other minority candidate, and are just as often racist Whites who don't even know the American political sphere well enough to know that they are voting against their own interests every time they vote for republicans and use their votes to keep Black and minority voters out.  The actually believe that the rich republicans that hold offices/political positions in Washington see them as the same.  Wow.  It is amazing, isn't it?  It's basically the same psychological syndrome as 'abused child syndrome' where there will always be one that will side with the abuser, and assist the abuser in abusing the others.  Yuck! Nauseating!

And West Virginia, the poorest region in America with the highest oxycodone, meth, crack, prescription drug using, welfare and food stamp receiving, run-down trailer living White folks in the whole country.  

Thursday, May 24, 2012

Advice, Words of Real Commentaries, etc.







I agree that it’s a waste of oxygen and time dialoguing with Lara (and others like her) — but sometimes I get sucked in :-)
It is almost a religious quest, so many black folks desoerately seeking out and uplifting “good white people” and “white liberals” like former prez Bill Clintion who black folks love and used to call the “first black prez) — despite the FACT that there was a ton of punitive legislation enacted against blacks during the Clinton Administration)
The best scam in town is the (show) business of white anti-racism. It’s like speaking against crack cocaine while enjoying legal immunity as you puff on your crack pipe.
I believe the “system” tolerates and encourages and rewards white “anti-racists” like Tim Wise, for example, because they confuse the victimized black masses into thinking there are “good white people.”
white folks like Tim Wise gets book deals and makes public appearances on TV but real anti-racists like Neely Fuller, Jr. and Dr. Welsing can’t get a drop of attention from the white media.
There is no way a system set up to benefit one group is going to be opposed OR voluntarily destroyed by that same group.
Once we realize that, we will stop looking for “good white people” and good deeds by white people and instead, become better, wiser, more self-respecting, and more determined to defeat racism BLACK PEOPLE.
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Absolutely agree, the only time I’ve read ebonics on-line is when a white person is pretending to be a black person
that says a lot about racism right there



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of course white females get more empathy and sympathy from the white media and white people collectively. That’s obvious from the coverage of white female victims VS black female victims. The proof:
ask the average person to name three white female crime victims who have become household names:
“That’s easy — Natalie Holloway, Jon Benet Ramsey, Lacey Peterson”
Now, ask them to name ONE black female crime victim
“…….SILENCE…”
Black females are the most victimized females in American history, from 400 years of being the victims of ruthless white rapists and sadistic white female slave-owners to present day black females who are the most likely group in America to be raped but the LEAST likely to be believed or have their crimes investigated or the offenders prosecuted.
Of course, black female’s tears do not have the same effect as white female’s tears.
Dave, if you are a white man, you already knew the answer to your question…


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   I warn my daughter about this all the time.  I tell her to curtail shopping, etc. in the stores where school is since the entire city is now the exclusive domain of transplanted Whites who will ensure that one day this will become a forbidden city.  Already there are buildings on Pine street that have their own private subway entrance.
   The NY that people envision is one of the past.  This current place is very corporatized and sad to say, becoming very dull.  What made the place NY is now pretty much gone.  Yes its busy, etc. but it has no more charm and it's not the place where anyone can just hop off a bus and struggle and make it.  You cannot be broke but still live in NY.  That's the part that's the killer.
    The selfish, tunnel visioned Whites that have the idea that every spot they lay their eyes on should be theirs exclusively and like fiends come after anywhere they see people of color will one day have a rude awakening:  Poor/Middle Class people are beginning to despise people who claim to be artists but are actually gentrifiers.  The real people who embody the spirit of NY are going to be forced out elsewhere and will bring that spirit with them to other cities.  You gentrifiers are easy to pick out and will be summarily targeted and banned.  As you watch NYC/DC/other areas die from sheer corporatized boredom you will NOT be welcomed to these new towns because the people running things are the ones YOU helped push out.  They'll remember you.
    Besides, the corporations that drew you here so that you'd break up/destroy the neighborhoods are going to force you to stay there to ensure the look of the new Walled in City of NY.  Envision that Big Apple logo with a steel cage around it.  Think it won't happen?  It's already here.
  This city is dead; and when the bored white kids who like to sit on the dirty subway station ground get tired of it because its the same all over (thanks to them) they're not going to be welcome elsewhere.  

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I would strongly suggest folks check out the Tim Wise interviews on C.O.W.S. on the Talkshoe shoe website — you’ll have to google it since I don’t have permission to post links on this blog.
He has admitted on previous occasions that he is a white racist and Wise once called the research of Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, a medically trained psychiatrist and geneticist — “pseudo-scientific BS (he didn’t abbreviate the word BS) aka “negro science.”
I believe Mr. Wise is a phony and is pimping racism and black people to make a very good living — and have based my opinion on the evidence and the interviews I have listened to
scratch a white anti-racist and you will find a white person practicing a very refined form of racism/white supremacy




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Matari
“Then I thought, this has been iterated before! I saw a video of this guy Wise giving a speech to a black audience. It was as if they needed this white man to validate what they should have known, or perhaps already did.”
A white US supreme court justice before our time ruled/stated something like, “Negroes have no rights which the white man is bound to respect.”
Apparently, this dismissive – and now de facto – attitude extends to our words as well. If it’s not in the white collective’s (or individual’s) interest, the utterances of black people are summarily ignored… or replayed/deciphered inaccurately on purpose so as to askew the meaning, This is a very convenient/useful method (of many) for maintaining white supremacy. Have we not seen this tactic deployed countless times on this blog, and even this thread?? This brings to mind Law Prof Derrick Bell’s second rule of “the rules of racial standing” which states:
“Not only are blacks’ complaints discounted, but black victims of racism are less effective witnesses than are whites, who are members of the oppressor class. This phenomenon reflects a widespread assumption that blacks, unlike whites, cannot be objective on racial issues and will favor their own no matter what. This deep seated belief fuels a continuing effort – despite all manner of Supreme Court decisions intended to curb the practice – to keep black people off juries in cases involving race. Black judges hearing racial cases are eyed suspiciously and sometimes asked to recuse themselves in favor of a white judge – without those making the request even being aware of the paradox in their motions.”



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Lara and those like her have no interest/use for the system of government we all know and love as democracy in light of the probability that POC might potentially benefit from such an arrangement. They and their ilk, for all their screaming and shouting against “the big bad federal government” are more interested in installing white autocracies which not only take into account the current racial hierarchy that is white supremacy but also re-introduces the most vile and brutal aspects of it’s machinations in order to keep “the niggers (anybody who isn’t white) in their place.”
What I find laughable about this POV (if it can be called that) is the pretentious underpinnings upon which it rests. Essentially, it consists of the idea that whites are the only people who’ve shown initiative/interest in earning their way through the world via their own merits. Whilst the rest of us, inherently dysfunctional coloureds, have not only shown a great disregard for doing so, but indeed have always harbored deep seated ambitions to be taken care of by them/somebody/ anybody other than ourselves.
Outside of it’s historical inaccuracy and present day white karfaffull regarding their own economic plight world wide, the astounding intellectual dishonesty it must take in order to ignore the quandary they invariably find themselves in when trying to argue a point of view which inherently requires that white people be capable of achieving all manner of success despite any and all objective odds stacked up against them (which at this juncture, in regards to race, seems to be a system geared, if not successfully, to upholding democratic ideals of civil rights) whilst simultaneously caterwauling about this that and the other parts of government not aiding and abetting them in bringing their titular merit based societies into being is mind boggling to say the least if not outright bloody hysterical.
In other words dear fascists, you can’t on one hand contemptuously sneer and spittle that people should be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps irrespective of any and all circumstances they face and were it not for meddlesome government they could, and then in the same breath wail and gnash teeth about that very same government not intervening on your behalf in order for you to be able to manage to succeed. ?????????

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I think there is a lot to be learned from Lara, if black people would simply accept that she represents the typical (regardless of income or education) white person in a white supremacy system.
Lara is the RULE, not the exception, and she will NEVER snitch on other white people even when she knows the truth: that white people practice racism against blacks and other non-whites on a DAILY basis, and that white people know they benefit from the mistreatment of non-whites and that is why they pretend to be falsely innocence and “clueless.”
No, Lara is not “clueless” or ignorant. She is well aware of what it means to be white, and what it means to NOT be white — which is why she is quick to throw around black stereotypes and insults. This is something she learned at an early age because white people often negatively discuss black people (when no black people are in the room).
This is WHO SHE IS.
The day that black people accept what should be by now a proven FACT that white people collectively are INHERENTLY racist, and that racism is as much a genetic and psychological problem (illness) for whites — as it is a social and political and economic reality/tragedy for blacks, that’s the day we MIGHT get the guts and the wisdom to really do something about it — and them.
I find too many black people (and I’m not addressing anyone in particular) are so eager (and desperate) to believe that Lara is not typical of white people — that we ignore the undeniable evidence that white people GLOBALLY have no intention of stopping the brutal and barbaric practice of subjugating and slaughtering people who are not white aka practicing white supremacy.
Katrina should have been a wake-up call for all the black doubters as to the kind of “racial progress” blacks have made here in America. Oscar Grant’s murder at the hands of a toy cop who walks out of prison after serving less than two years should be a wake-up call for blacks in america. Wesley Snipes sitting in federal prison for a misdemeanor tax conviction should be a wake-up call for blacks in america.
The fact that CNN reported that it was easier for a white man with a criminal record to get a job than a black man with a college degree should be a wake-up call for blacks in america.
The gentrification of countless American cities as increasingly (and deliberately) impoverished and some formerly working class and middle class blacks are being pushed out should be a wake-up for blacks in america.
Black farmers who are still waiting for justice, while wealthy white farmers were just given millions of taxpayer dollars for being white and wealthy should be a wakeup call for blacks in America,
That fact that a black man (Troy Davis) was just executed in Georgia for a crime it was obvious he did not commit while the long arm of American (in)justice reached across the ocean and freed a white female (Amanda Knox) who appeared from the evidence to be guilty of a murder in Italy should be a wake-up call for blacks in America.
and the list is too long for this blog….
Lara’s posts shouldn’t raise any eyebrows or blood pressure. It’s what we should come to expect from racist man and racist woman since we have been dealing with them for over 500 years. It should be obvious by now (for G’s sake) that they are not going to change who they are.
It’s time for us to accept hard, cold reality that black people will have to do the changing, that we have to change how we think, act, and speak when it comes to white people — and that means what ever it means.
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@ Lara
African countries “favoring” their own is NOT black supremacy. If the French “favor” other French people is that “French supremacy?”
In addition, African countries are under attack by the European white supremacy system as I write this and have been for hundreds of years, so whatever is happening in Africa is largely a result of WHITE imperialism, WHITE colonialism, and genocide conducted by WHITE people. Witness the recent murder of the Libyan leader by the white West (not the so-called “rebels”)
Let’s be logical here. You read the definition of white supremacy and black supremacy. So let me poise this question directly to you and see if you are capable of a clean, straight forward answer:
If black supremacy exists (in the U.S.)
Name one thing that black people – as a group — have stopped white people – as a group — from doing that they had a RIGHT to do? For example, denying them the right to work, own a home, live in a certain area, get a fair trial, an education, or use any public facility.
I’m looking forward to your answer



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I agree, Lara’s posts reek of deliberate, CULTIVATED (and phony) obtuseness —
which seem to be designed to keep black posters on this blog going around and around in a circle chasing their own tails and trying to convince her of what she already knows is true
that white people run it
that white people own it
and that white people’s biggest Wizard of Oz trick
is to convince blacks and non-whites that they are not being mistreated by white people
I call this the “Don’t Snitch On Other White People” syndrome where white people will deliberately deny that racism is going on even when they know and/or are participating in the practice of it
for all we know, Lara’s on someone’s payroll and is being paid to do just that
disrupt the logical flow of black exchange over how to understand and solve the problem of (white) racism.
keep in mind, the internet is a strange, mysterious place….full of spies and saboteurs where people are paid to disrupt any honest or serious dialogue about racism by blacks who are trying to fight our way out of it

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@ phoebe
White women have been threatened by us since slavery when the master would leave his white wife alone in her beautifully dressed nightgown and carefully curled locks to fornicate with his slaves.
The racial aminus is ever present with white women. This can be seen with Michelle Obama when she is being attacked by white male Republicans.
I’m writing a post about why they keep quiet with her but defend Ms. Fluke
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@Bulanik
The sense of entitlement that some men think they have over women’s bodies never fails to floor me.
Yes. I felt violated and less ‘human’ following this. Like, it didnt matter, he could touch me any way he wanted to to prove something to this female – I never saw them even so much as exchange a kiss in public yet he could do that to me and not bat an eyelid.
But we notice, too, how the game is acted out: white woman in starring role – romantic lead – of course. Emoting, and the only “real” woman on the stage…and the emotional reality of the not-white woman? Marginalized.
Of course. Funny, I recall telling a friend about that incident and when I described the female she said ‘oh thats such and such such and such, we were at school together. She always maintained she hated BP and would certainly never go out with a BM…’
@TrojanPam
After reading some of the personal testimonies on this thread, it is clear that white people — especially white females — know they benefit more than non-whites.
I remember having a discussion with a white female colleague a few years ago that links in directly to this topic. I was saying that I wouldnt mind having more children but my husband was not keen. Her response ‘just cry and keep on crying, thats what I do until I get my own way!’
Naively she obviously thought this approach would work across the board but, in my experience this hasnt been the case at all….

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Bulanik
@Leigh
“…I would’ve popped her in the mouth..”
Omg, I wish I had known how to stand up for myself like that when I was young. Instead I just shriveled away and ran the risk of forever being misunderstood by all and sundry through lack of confidence/fighting skills.
How did you learn to fight back like that?
I ask because I never knew. I suppose I always got mixed messages about fight back: if you fight you are a bad person, if you fight back you are just as bad as the person who attacked you AND conforming to a reputation that everyone expects of you, and, if you fight you’re going to get more hurt anyway….
@Demerera
It’s a catch-22.
You don’t respond – then you’re a victim.
You do respond – you are asking for trouble. Or being “typical”.
I remember – back in the day – that it was the belief that the white girl was always the more ‘innocent’ in an incident or fight.
What a joke. What has changed?
I recall in a work situation, a particular white woman (blonde) who would turn on the waterworks to get her way. She was fantastic at it. Really. And, everybody white fell for it.
Once we had a run in – she was absolutely in the wrong – on paper at least. But out came the tears and somehow, now, I was suddenly the baddie. When I said to her what she was doing was manipulation and not fair, she turned round and said:
“I am a good person, y’know. My brother is married to a black girl.”
(In my mind, I imagined a kick coming from one side of the room onto her mouth. But I just stood there helplessly as she got her way.)


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The Revolutionist wrote:

There is a saying that goes "DNA is not an exact science". I believe this totally.
For DNA not to find any link between East Africa and any other African country has to be complete garbage, African life began in the East of Africa so all Africans should show some form of link, I can understand them finding a certain amount of Arab/Caucasian DNA in the East because they have mixed with Arabs ever since their invasion of North Africa...
However, this was pretty recent in African history which stretches back around 150,000 years, the history of black Ethiopia goes back long before any Arab invasion, the fact that there is now caucasian DNA in Ethiopia has caused whites and Arabs to feel that they can claim the entire history of any form of civilisation in East Africa, this is like whites claiming the entire history of America or blacks claiming the entire caribbean history whereas both these places were inhabited and had culture before we arrived there...
There is a link between East Africa and the rest of Africa. In fact everything with DNA has a link, from a human to a tree, DNA shows common ancestry.

This Autosomal DNA show Ethiopians resembling the Masai the most:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UaYRI9pjnzQ/TyaGJWc... 
Notice the predomnate ''turquise blue'' admixture in both Ethiopians and Masai? That represents East Africa (Eastern Sudanic/Cushtic) and the Masai are essentially Central Africans who even have relatiosn to Bantu groups.



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The Revolutionist wrote:

Look, human life originated in the East of Africa and spread throughout the rest of Africa, did it not?... If DNA suggests Africans are not related somehow then DNA testing CLEARLY needs further development in terms of its accuracy!
Everyone on the planet seems to have the right to identify with others from their continent, Europeans can identify with all Europeans, Indians can identify with all Indians from India, Native Indians identify with Native Americans, Chinese with all Chinese and so on, however, when it comes to the black race, white people try their utmost best to separate the North from the East from the South and West!!! Why?
Why TF is it that only black people must be sectioned off from each other and divided into little groups and told that we are alien to each other, f*ck that sh*t!...
This technique was used by whites during slavery, those whites absolutely lived in FEAR of slave uprisings and the slaughter of whites on the plantation, large groups of slaves grouping together were prevented by the white slave owners dividing blacks into groups and pitting them against each other, example, light-skinned slaves vs dark-skinned slaves, men vs women, old vs young and so on...
These differences were exploited and used to drive a wedge between slaves and make them fight each other over these petty differences rather than gather together and plan attacks against whites!
Well this DNA B/S is the modern equivalent of the old divide and rule tactic that was used during the old days!... So what if there are differences in black DNA, we are all still black African!...
There are many DNA differences in Italian, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, South American and Puerto Rican white people but we don't hear whites highlighting these differences and sectioning themselves off from the pack, so why should we have to?
You all need to stop being sh*t scared of black people claiming black history, we are a huge group, it is time you stopped trying to downsize us!
C/S ,Great Post brother !


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BigsmokE8 wrote:

There is a link between East Africa and the rest of Africa. In fact everything with DNA has a link, from a human to a tree, DNA shows common ancestry.
This Autosomal DNA show Ethiopians resembling the Masai the most:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UaYRI9pjnzQ/TyaGJWc...
Notice the predomnate ''turquise blue'' admixture in both Ethiopians and Masai? That represents East Africa (Eastern Sudanic/Cushtic) and the Masai are essentially Central Africans who even have relatiosn to Bantu groups.
Wow, I had no idea that Ethiopia had such a huge link with the Maasai Tribe... Did you also know that the Tutsi's are Ethiopians that left the Ethiopian Highlands around 600 years ago and ended-up living in Rwanda with the Hutu's who came from Chad? Not only that, there was a travel route from East to West Africa which I forget the name of, but many Africans from war torn East fled across this route for many years and ended up in places like Nigeria. 

Many Sudanese people fleeing fighting also fled to the West or Central Africa, I will look for the link and post it here!

Africans clearly moved around and migrated from one part of Africa to another, so for these clueless white people to come and tell us that our genetics are not mixed is total rubbish... 

We need to start educating ourselves concerning our history and don't leave it to racist white bigots to educate us about our own continent, all he will do is speculate or tell us pure lies!



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laromana
The Sapphire stereotype like the Jezebel and Mammy stereotypes were invented by American ANTI-BW RACIST/HATERS to justify the molestation, rape, and other heinous criminal acts commited by American White slave masters/WM against BW/Black girls. It was common for people to claim that BW/Black girls “couldn’t be raped” on the basis of these hateful/warped/ignorant ANTI-BW stereotypes.
It’s important to remember the historical context of ANTI-BW LIES, MYTHS, and STEREOTYPES so we don’t attempt to justify them.
There are women of ALL races who can be “loud, emasculating, ghetto, agressive/attitudinal”, etc. I find it interesting that many people want to pretend that ALL BW posess EVERY negative character trait imaginable but NO positive character traits (obviously a lie).
This ANTI-BW mindset is RACIST/SEXIST and needs to change

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sepultura13 says,
Another interesting thing about this stereotype is that a lot of men, particularly black men, will say that the ‘Sapphire’ character is why they don’t/won’t date black women – but then those same men will date a white or latina woman with those EXACT SAME characteristics that they claim to abhor in black women! If a behavior is a deal-breaker then it wouldn’t matter who acted that way, they would be seen as ‘undatable’ and ‘unapproachable’, no? Excuses, excuses, excuses…
Regarding the Pepsi Superbowl ad: I admit that I didn’t see it at the time it aired, but have since looked it over and was disgusted and dismayed.
laromana says,
sepultura13,
ANTI-BW RACIST BM and ANTI-BW RACISM are both DISGUSTING. ANTI-BW BM who condone/promote ANTI-BW RACISM may as well be white supremacists because they’re USEFUL IDIOTS for ALL ANTI-BLACK HATE groups.