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The biggest people in the media are members of the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission, both creations of Skull and Bones and David Rockefeller. The media is used to promote disinformation and propaganda. The only way you can think the media doesn't withhold information is if you don't know what is REALLY going on. Hitler said, in regard to propaganda and thought control, "The bigger the lie, the easier to believe". Sometimes it can be very difficult to discern the truth and find out what is really going on. Your heart will tell you one thing and your intellect another and usually we get caught up believing what we want to believe because it's too much trouble to see all the way through.
NEW WORLD ORDER is HERE and NOW:The more that this sort of information gets out to the public, the faster the crackdown and grab for power becomes. The government is not as dumb as most people believe, it only appears to be on the surface. How many more police do we need ? The Fraternal Order of Police is a Masonic Order. You will understand this the next time they put you through the 3rd DEGREE, and offer you 3 SQUARE meals a day. How much more power do we want to give them ? Current Gun Control Legislation is taken almost word for word from gun control laws passed in Nazi Germany under Adolph Hitler. There have been many Executive Orders and Public Laws passed giving tremendous powers to the president to declare National Emergencies, suspend the Constitution, and round up large groups of people, and the power to use converted and shut down MILITARY BASES AS LABOR BOOT CAMPS ( CONCENTRATION CAMPS), has been handed to the Pentagon. This will be sold to us as immigration control, drug trafficker punishment and so forth.NDAA2012
The late American Professor Revilo P. Oliver, a confirmed atheist, was forced to conclude: "A theory that a conspiracy has been working consciously for many centuries is not very plausible unless one attributes to them a religious unity. That is tantamount to regarding them as Satanists engaged in the worship and service of supernatural evil.
The directors of the conspiracy must see or otherwise directly perceive manifestations which convince them of the existence and power of Lucifer. And since subtle conspirators must be very shrewd men, not likely to be deceived by auto-suggestion, hypnosis, or drugs, we should have to conclude that they probably are in contact with a force of pure evil."
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18 hours agoI am not surprised that Mr. Harvey is interviewing Obama because I have said it over and over: In 2010 during the Mid Term Election,Obama's people invited Radio Hosts/Black Blog sites to the White House to talk voting strategy to get Blacks to vote for him in 2012 and they were paid a total of 3 million dollars to do so.
Obama strategy is as follows: Get people like Mr. Harvey to interview him because he will NOT ask the hard questions and he certainly won't ask about African Libyans because he's not versed in politics.This is just a propaganda session and it will only amount to a bash fest of anyone that critiques Obama and it will also amount to just another worship fest for Obama....During his first year in office "Obama stated that Blacks were emotional and that is what he plays on when it comes to his followers" because he's knows that's all he has to do.The Black people that worship Obama should be INSULTED that he feels YOU are that dumb....
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Obama strategy is as follows: Get people like Mr. Harvey to interview him because he will NOT ask the hard questions and he certainly won't ask about African Libyans because he's not versed in politics.This is just a propaganda session and it will only amount to a bash fest of anyone that critiques Obama and it will also amount to just another worship fest for Obama....During his first year in office "Obama stated that Blacks were emotional and that is what he plays on when it comes to his followers" because he's knows that's all he has to do.The Black people that worship Obama should be INSULTED that he feels YOU are that dumb....
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4 hours agoWhere are you getting your information? As much as the Republicans don't want to remember W, he was the ruin of our economy with 2 wars, tax breaks for the wealthy, giving corporations a free pass to destroy what's left of the middle class, etc. ad nauseum. Read the headlines if nothing else: Obama just told Israel that we have their back. And money to Solendra couldn't begin to equal the money that was thrown at Enron, Blackwater, and all the other Republican corporations. And, BTW, you can't have it both ways. Either you've got people whose jobs are gone or you've got people who are too lazy to work. Geez, you and Carl C. have to get your stories straight.
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7 months agoUhmmm being OUT of prison and in your childs life, NOT being on drugs and being a good role model has WAY more to do with being a great father to your children.
In my own personal experience, I can remember EVERY day spent with, talking to, on vacations, heart to hearts, lessons learned, ass whoppins, hugs, kisses, long walks and truths I got from my FATHER....Even though he bought us damn near everything we wanted or needed, HIS CHARACTER stands out in my life more than anything else.....If YOU would have had your father in your life, you wouldn't have asked such a silly question ma'am.....
It's clear that YOU have good father confused with CHILD SUPPORT CHECK! So yeah, stay confused honey....
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In my own personal experience, I can remember EVERY day spent with, talking to, on vacations, heart to hearts, lessons learned, ass whoppins, hugs, kisses, long walks and truths I got from my FATHER....Even though he bought us damn near everything we wanted or needed, HIS CHARACTER stands out in my life more than anything else.....If YOU would have had your father in your life, you wouldn't have asked such a silly question ma'am.....
It's clear that YOU have good father confused with CHILD SUPPORT CHECK! So yeah, stay confused honey....
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21 hours agoDoes Steve know anything about the Arab spring and the genocide of our people?
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On Clive Davis (Clive, don't you know people like me know your secrets. Your secrets are out for year).
By Timothy
Originally Posted by my40daysareover
-chantelle
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jazzwatch17 hours ago
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OKAY...WAIT...I STARTED HERE ON THIS THREAD WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMENT:
COSIGNS....1,110%...
"IT'S NOT ABOUT HATING ANYONE FOR US...
IN REALITY WE KNOW AND SOCIALIZE WITH ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE...AND THAT'S FINE...NOW WHILE IT WILL BE UP TO OUR SONS TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES...TO FIND THE LOVE,RESPECT AND SUPPORT OF A WOMAN WHERE THEY FIND IT...WITH WHO EVER THEY FIND IT WITH...
WE DO HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY MEET NICE BLACK GIRLS FROM NICE FAMILIES...WITH THE VERY SAME PERSPECTIVES AND VALUES THAT WE HAVE INSTILLED IN THEM...
AS WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO SEE BECKY GETTING OUT OF THE CAR AND WALKING UP THE FRONT WALK WAY AND THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR ON EITHER OF THEIR ARMS!
I MARRIED A BEAUTIFUL,SEXY,EDUCATED,CHARMI NG,CULTURED,FUNNY,WARM, AFFECTIONATE AND SUPPORTIVE BLACK WOMAN....WHO THEY LOVE AND ADORE...WE'VE SURROUNDED THEM WITH BEAUTIFUL,SUCCESSFUL AND SUPPORTIVE AA....AND WE DID THAT FOR A REASON...HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GET THE HINT AND RUN WITH IT!
SO FAR...THEY SMILE FROM EAR TO EAR WHEN THEY SEE MEAGAN "MMMM MMMM" GOOD,KELLY ROWLAND,KEISHA KNIGHT PULLIAM.BLACK GIRLS FROM CHURCH,FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER LOVELY BW....SO FAR SO GOOD"
NOW YOU AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS OR SO...AND NOW AFTER ALL THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED...
YOU'RE ASSERTING THAT I'M SOME "RECOVERING DRUG ADDICT"...LMBAO
AND YET YOU WANT TO BE SEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND EVEN SEEN AS BEING OBJECTIVE AND NON RACIST TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE !
REALLY...LOL!
*AS I HAVE STATED...YOU HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS PERSONAL ISSUES WITH BLACK FOLKS...PARTICULAR BLACK WOMEN...BUT ALSO WITH ANY BLACK PERSON THAT QUESTIONS YOUR OWN PESONAL SELF HATRED...SOME VERY REAL AND VERY SERIOUS ISSUES FOR SURE...SEEK PERSONAL HELP THROUGH COUNSELING,GOD AND SOCIAL INTERACTION PERHAPS?
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Didn't Clive Davis also "shelve" Angie Stone's music and singing career and instead use her to vocally train his new "it" girls like Alicia Keys? Etc? I think I read Angie saying that in an article somewhere a few years ago....
Perhaps Clive despises tough women like Hyman, Stone, Bofill.
Perhaps that is why a lot of talented, beautiful singers still stand up barefoot and guitar in some lounge and sing their heart out rather than sell their soul to egoists running a label.
Last time I knew, a million dollars is about 50% taxable not including the pumped up deductions that the label will be saving for their "out of pocket" expenses bill on your behalf. The advance most likely will go to your managers (accountants/lawyers) who will have their expenses to deduct. LOL. However the sweet trick is that the label will not deduct taxes for you, the accounting firm will advise you of the taxes to pay BUT will not pay them for you....
-Curious Carib.
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Yeah but.........Whitney is TOUGH...and hood as hell. The difference is as someone has already said, Whitney let Clive guide her career. The other women you mentioned gave him opposition so it's been said. If you're working with a master you MUST let him drive the car, his ego demands such. Women have to learn very early in getting what we want out of men, we must appease their egos. This is especially true of men with vast power such as a Clive. Not only that, Whitney had pop appeal. Not every wonderful singer is comfortable with that or wants to do what it takes to be that pop star. As much as I love Stone, Bofill, and Hyman, their styles are not ones that everybody is going to love. That's what made Whitney so successful, she could out sing everybody but at the same time, you can be into jazz, R&B, whatever and still love her voice.
-Pressley
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Not everyone has to like Viola's hair but it was obvious Wendy disliked the texture of her hair rather than the hair style, if that makes sense. Her comments seemed hateful, almost as if she was disgusted that Viola chose to go natural. Wendy has major issues anyways.
I think it is really interesting that Mary Alice, the WHITE woman was able to appreciate the beauty of Viola's natural hair. Going natural can be difficult and I applaud Viola for taking that step and showing up at the Oscars like., "this is who I am." I love it!
Wendy is about to have the natural hair mafia come for her because I'm not taking that ish.
-A Peron
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I'm aware some people might not like the way she looked and that's fine, but I thought Viola looked beautiful.
-Milani
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Am i the only one who wishes someone would create a thread and spill tea on all these music moguls like Jimmy Iovine, Clive Davis, Doug Morris, Barry Weiss, L.A Reid etc.? From what I've read here and there they all seem to be incredibly twisted and weird.
-Dream Big
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Don't listen to these idiots...Topix is filled with white racist,white women,white men and self hating IRblacks...
And now we live in a time where these morons act as if everyone is obligated to be open to whatever everyone else is...
So now whites want to date and marry blacks...so this means that we are all supposed to just go with the program...I don't think so!
AS I STATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD...MY WIFE AND I REALIZE THAT WHO OUR SONS DATE,COURT AND MARRY WILL IN THE END BE THEIR CHOICES TO MAKE...
BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK US WHO WE WOULD PREFER THEM TO MARRY....
NICE,EDUCATED,INTELLIGENT,DECE NT,CULTURED BLACK GIRLS...FROM NICE FAMILIES...WHO SHARE THE SAME VALUES AND ETHICS AS WE HAVE INSTILLED INTO OUR SONS!
NOT BECKY...NOR ANYONE ELSE!
IF THAT OFFENDS ANYONE HERE...SO BE IT...I COULDN'T GIVE A RATS A___!
*BLACK PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR DAMN MINDS...AND DON'T HAVE THE SENSE TO COME IN OUT OF THE RAIN...NOW US WANTING TO BE WITH OUR OWN KIND....MAKES US A RACIST...B____________!
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Interesting how many careers waned once Whitney came along
...Phyll is Hyman, Miki Howard, etc, (at least that's what the Unsung episodes claim).
Who ever said Phyllis burned her bridges with Clive is correct. He was very controlling i.e. not wanting her to perform on Broadway to the type of music she recorded, but Phyllis was not having it...to be controlled was not part of her nature. Her career suffered as a result although she went on to have some success with Gamble and Huff at PI (Philadelphia International)
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fyi Clive Davis is not the man who discovered Whitney even though he gets all the credit. Monti Lueftner did. Whitney had a team of handlers that controlled and molded her into the superstar she was. No, it wasn't Clive calling all the shots. Just know that that Clive answers to honchos more powerful than he.
-Miss Jackson
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“Intelligence rules the world, ignorance carries the burden...”
― Marcus Garvey
-Near Future
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Business is all about competition; competition will always be there, it means that there is a demand for that particular product, we have to learn to exploit this fact. We think like cowardly losers that are afraid to take risks, that is why we lose all the time. We don't have to be rich to start a business, many people start businesses with no money, they got off of their asses and raised the capital one way or the other.
Every other race of people on earth have a "go get mind-set" we on the other hand have a "can't do" mentality. I have often told a true story of 20 Rastafarian men during the 1980's who put their money together and purchased 3 houses in a row, fixed them up and used them as a community base, they ran many operations like, training, workshops, shows, organised community activities, rehabilitation, selling organic foods, working as tradesmen for hire (carpenters, plumbers, plasterers etc...) They made a lot of money and later opened various shops with the proceeds, even other races in the community used to come to us for help, lol.... My father was one of the main organisers within this group, so I can testify to what black unity can do... Individual success for blacks is limited unified success is limitless.
We used to see houses with up to 15 Asians living in each while driving crappy Nissan sunny's or battered Datsun's, but slowly these Asians started buying houses one by one and moving out, now they are laughing at us! They were saving their money that is how they raised their deposits...
I think we need to stop thinking in a self defeatist manner, we keep ourselves firmly at the bottom of the pile with our "can't do-everything is too hard" mentality, this is not how men and women think, this is how children think... We lack self belief, racial-pride and determination and we have grown accustomed to failure, If you tell a black man to go and achieve something, he will then give you a million reasons why he can't do it.
-The Revolutionist
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DNA evidence shows that all Blacks were not brought to the Americas as slaves.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19455-g...
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Africa is mainly savannah and grassy plains. There is more jungle in South America!!!
White people are obsessed with tribes who refuse to live their modern way of life and shun technology, that is their choice, they don't have to live the way they do...
Maybe we should find the poorest whites like trailer trash, wiggers, chavs and gypsies and use them as a representation of how most whites live, let's see how they like that!
-The Revolutionist
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TIPTG77UL0LFSU80B/p117
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Africans cultivated crops 12,000 years ago, the first known advances in agriculture. Professor Fred Wendorf discovered that people in Egypt’s Western Desert cultivated crops of barley, capers, chick-peas, dates, legumes, lentils and wheat. Their ancient tools were also recovered. There were grindstones, milling stones, cutting blades, hide scrapers, engraving burins, and mortars and pestles.
In central Nigeria, West Africa’s oldest civilisation flourished between 1000 BC and 300 BC. Discovered in 1928, the ancient culture was called the Nok Civilisation, named after the village in which the early artefacts were discovered. Two modern scholars, declare that “[a]fter calibration, the period of Nok art spans from 1000 BC until 300 BC”. The site itself is much older going back as early as 4580 or 4290 BC.
http://www.viamigo.com/img/l/p_o_s_t/54/mauri...
West Africans built in stone by 1100 BC. In the Tichitt-Walata region of Mauritania, archaeologists have found “large stone masonry villages” that date back to 1100 BC. The villages consisted of roughly circular compounds connected by “well-defined streets”.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Kumbi Saleh, the capital of Ancient Ghana, flourished from 300 to 1240 AD. Located in modern day Mauritania, archaeological excavations have revealed houses, almost habitable today, for want of renovation and several storeys high. They had underground rooms, staircases and connecting halls. Some had nine rooms. One part of the city alone is estimated to have housed 30,000 people.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WNRICGdJWtI/SfUOJz2...
Lord Lugard, an English official, estimated in 1904 that there were 170 walled towns still in existence in the whole of just the Kano province of northern Nigeria.
The recently discovered 9th century Nigerian city of Eredo was found to be surrounded by a wall that was 100 miles long and seventy feet high in places. The internal area was a staggering 400 square miles.
Drawing by European officer:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
African Historical Ruins - you never see on TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And did you know that the European Sami people still today live in twig huts?
http://taigabiome.files.wordpress.com/2007/11...
-Near Future
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http://wysinger.homestead.com/boatpit2.jpg
ship statue:
http://crazyparentingideas.files.wordpress.co...
http://www.taneter.org/ishango.jpg
Africans pioneered basic arithmetic 25,000 years ago. The Ishango bone is a tool handle with notches carved into it found in the Ishango region of Zaïre (now called Congo) near Lake Edward. The bone tool was originally thought to have been over 8,000 years old, but a more sensitive recent dating has given dates of 25,000 years old. On the tool are 3 rows of notches. Row 1 shows three notches carved next to six, four carved next to eight, ten carved next to two fives and finally a seven. The 3 and 6, 4 and 8, and 10 and 5, represent the process of doubling. Row 2 shows eleven notches carved next to twenty-one notches, and nineteen notches carved next to nine notches. This represents 10 + 1, 20 + 1, 20 - 1 and 10 - 1. Finally, Row 3 shows eleven notches, thirteen notches, seventeen notches and nineteen notches. 11, 13, 17 and 19 are the prime numbers between 10 and 20.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
And pottery wheels were commonplace in some African cities
-Near Future
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TIPTG77UL0LFSU80B/p117
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White people are very short sited and have delusions of granduer. In this day and age they reap the benefits of their forefathers who came to power at the expense of the suffering of other nationalities in the past. White people do not like acknowledging the other people in the past that their forefathers screwed over because it is the horrible reality of their forefathers and they would rather believe such events as the Trans-atlantic slave trade and the Native American genocide as humanitarian events (funny how they twist it). The overused "if we didn't bring you out of Africa" line is their way of saying black people should be grateful to them for enslaving millions of black people's ancestors, having them walk miles in chains to the slave port castles dehydrated and hungry, keeping them in dark dank prisons until they were stuffed into ships having to p___ and s___ on themselves and other blacks because they couldn't move around, throwing their dead corpses off ships to be eaten by sharks, whipping slaves on their backs and then throwing lemon juice on the wounds, tieing run-away slaves to four horses to be pulled apart in all directions infront of black women and children to discourage them from escaping, cutting their hands off if they were caught reading or teaching another slave to read, bombing black governed towns after emancipation, hanging blacks just because of the color of their skin.
They know that their history is one of the most gruesome and crinimal, yet project their views on others. they tell black people that we lived in mud huts and used curses from witch doctors, because they don't know that black people ruled advanced civilizations before precolonial rule, and created many medicines that they claim they created, they don't know that we created the first universities and were at one time the wealthiest people on earth. They ignore these facts becuase it is a threat to the false belief of white superiority, they probably do know the wonders of African civilization but because they have to uphold the mantra of white superiority they dismiss it, even allowing themselves to look like fools just to prove an improvable belief. And if my history treated human rights so viciously and without care like whites I'd probably say that making people suffer perpetually and making sure their children never have futures beyond serving others was for their own good too (NOT). You see white people like the idea of being superior and looking at others as inferior because it makes them feel a sense of purpose but the problem is they are not superior, and this makes them angry, and black people, this is why they hate you, because they want to be superior but we don't acknowledge them as such because they aren't and they feel it is a challenge. This is why they come to African American Forums, they feel that black people should be kissing them on the feet and worshipping them but there never was and never will be a reason for white people to even be thought of as anything but our equals.
To keep this idea of white superiority they have presented themselves positively in the media while at the same time disparaging others. Just think of all the racist jokes you can make of non-black people and now think of racist white jokes...I'm sure you can't think of many, guess who created the bulk of the jokes? White people. White people do not care to learn other cultures which is why they still say black people live in mud huts, they believe that anything that is white is right and anything that is colored is dullard. Not to say that being proud of being white is a bad thing but its good to respect other people's cultures, the reason racism exists is because no one looks at anything with detail, we use stereotypes to define people for us, and it is just plain inacurate. If everyone learned eachothers history we'd be much better off and ignorance would be expressed at a lesser degree.
-Near Future
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While you're blathering about some far left talking point, other than just saying No more Obama are the Republicans really all about? Continuing subsidies to the wealthy bankers and other large corporate interests.
What is the Republican agenda other than a vote against Obama?
-Ms Mack
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Me being pro black does not mean Im not mean I dont like people who are intelligent, insightful, realiable, or hardworking where are you getting this non sense? Im pro black because thats what I am has nothing to do with being less or better than someone you take things way out of proportion.
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T2TO5UETEFQ0GJNRO/p18
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On Clive Davis (Clive, don't you know people like me know your secrets. Your secrets are out for year).
By Timothy
Originally Posted by my40daysareover
What did he do to phyllis?
Dropped her like a bad habit once he found Whitney Houston.-chantelle
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17 hours agoGotta be with the RIGHT one...and go for the INSIDES as well as the outsides, because althoug the person might look angelic, they might hide EVIL, IJS........
I know SOME ladies prefer the DENZIL type, but how about getting one who is a MAN??? Same for a woman.....
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I know SOME ladies prefer the DENZIL type, but how about getting one who is a MAN??? Same for a woman.....
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19 hours agoGood article. domestic violence is a deadly sin against the entire family as Satan knows that in order to degrade and attack society, you have to attack the family. But I must clarify something:
"People think that if you have an issue, you pray it out, but domestic violence is a family systems issue. "
There's nothing wrong with prayer, and I don't know if that was her intent to suggest prayer is not the right option. I'm assuming she meant pray while you run for help. I advise all victims to trust in the Lord and get help from the proper authorities and professionals.
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Shenita Hill20 hours ago
"People think that if you have an issue, you pray it out, but domestic violence is a family systems issue. "
There's nothing wrong with prayer, and I don't know if that was her intent to suggest prayer is not the right option. I'm assuming she meant pray while you run for help. I advise all victims to trust in the Lord and get help from the proper authorities and professionals.
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SMDH...LOL!..AH THE MADNESS OF TOPIX...IT JUST NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME...NEVER!
In my view Moorspeaks you look like a recovering drug addict who shows a few moments of clarity. You're long winded, but mostly see the world as it pertains to yourself. YOu lack the ability to step outside yourself and ask, "Hmmm what's going on? What does that mean? How is that so?" You don't do it, because your values and self identity are wrapped up into whose legs you sleep between. Nothing else, because you can't think to ask anything else. It's why you are a field negro.
It's PATHETIC!
OKAY...WAIT...I STARTED HERE ON THIS THREAD WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMENT:
COSIGNS....1,110%...
"IT'S NOT ABOUT HATING ANYONE FOR US...
IN REALITY WE KNOW AND SOCIALIZE WITH ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE...AND THAT'S FINE...NOW WHILE IT WILL BE UP TO OUR SONS TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES...TO FIND THE LOVE,RESPECT AND SUPPORT OF A WOMAN WHERE THEY FIND IT...WITH WHO EVER THEY FIND IT WITH...
WE DO HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY MEET NICE BLACK GIRLS FROM NICE FAMILIES...WITH THE VERY SAME PERSPECTIVES AND VALUES THAT WE HAVE INSTILLED IN THEM...
AS WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO SEE BECKY GETTING OUT OF THE CAR AND WALKING UP THE FRONT WALK WAY AND THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR ON EITHER OF THEIR ARMS!
I MARRIED A BEAUTIFUL,SEXY,EDUCATED,CHARMI NG,CULTURED,FUNNY,WARM, AFFECTIONATE AND SUPPORTIVE BLACK WOMAN....WHO THEY LOVE AND ADORE...WE'VE SURROUNDED THEM WITH BEAUTIFUL,SUCCESSFUL AND SUPPORTIVE AA....AND WE DID THAT FOR A REASON...HOPEFULLY THEY WILL GET THE HINT AND RUN WITH IT!
SO FAR...THEY SMILE FROM EAR TO EAR WHEN THEY SEE MEAGAN "MMMM MMMM" GOOD,KELLY ROWLAND,KEISHA KNIGHT PULLIAM.BLACK GIRLS FROM CHURCH,FROM THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER LOVELY BW....SO FAR SO GOOD"
NOW YOU AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS OR SO...AND NOW AFTER ALL THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED...
YOU'RE ASSERTING THAT I'M SOME "RECOVERING DRUG ADDICT"...LMBAO
AND YET YOU WANT TO BE SEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND EVEN SEEN AS BEING OBJECTIVE AND NON RACIST TO YOUR OWN PEOPLE !
REALLY...LOL!
*AS I HAVE STATED...YOU HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS PERSONAL ISSUES WITH BLACK FOLKS...PARTICULAR BLACK WOMEN...BUT ALSO WITH ANY BLACK PERSON THAT QUESTIONS YOUR OWN PESONAL SELF HATRED...SOME VERY REAL AND VERY SERIOUS ISSUES FOR SURE...SEEK PERSONAL HELP THROUGH COUNSELING,GOD AND SOCIAL INTERACTION PERHAPS?
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Didn't Clive Davis also "shelve" Angie Stone's music and singing career and instead use her to vocally train his new "it" girls like Alicia Keys? Etc? I think I read Angie saying that in an article somewhere a few years ago....
Perhaps Clive despises tough women like Hyman, Stone, Bofill.
Perhaps that is why a lot of talented, beautiful singers still stand up barefoot and guitar in some lounge and sing their heart out rather than sell their soul to egoists running a label.
Last time I knew, a million dollars is about 50% taxable not including the pumped up deductions that the label will be saving for their "out of pocket" expenses bill on your behalf. The advance most likely will go to your managers (accountants/lawyers) who will have their expenses to deduct. LOL. However the sweet trick is that the label will not deduct taxes for you, the accounting firm will advise you of the taxes to pay BUT will not pay them for you....
-Curious Carib.
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Yeah but.........Whitney is TOUGH...and hood as hell. The difference is as someone has already said, Whitney let Clive guide her career. The other women you mentioned gave him opposition so it's been said. If you're working with a master you MUST let him drive the car, his ego demands such. Women have to learn very early in getting what we want out of men, we must appease their egos. This is especially true of men with vast power such as a Clive. Not only that, Whitney had pop appeal. Not every wonderful singer is comfortable with that or wants to do what it takes to be that pop star. As much as I love Stone, Bofill, and Hyman, their styles are not ones that everybody is going to love. That's what made Whitney so successful, she could out sing everybody but at the same time, you can be into jazz, R&B, whatever and still love her voice.
-Pressley
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Not everyone has to like Viola's hair but it was obvious Wendy disliked the texture of her hair rather than the hair style, if that makes sense. Her comments seemed hateful, almost as if she was disgusted that Viola chose to go natural. Wendy has major issues anyways.
I think it is really interesting that Mary Alice, the WHITE woman was able to appreciate the beauty of Viola's natural hair. Going natural can be difficult and I applaud Viola for taking that step and showing up at the Oscars like., "this is who I am." I love it!
Wendy is about to have the natural hair mafia come for her because I'm not taking that ish.
-A Peron
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I'm aware some people might not like the way she looked and that's fine, but I thought Viola looked beautiful.
-Milani
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Am i the only one who wishes someone would create a thread and spill tea on all these music moguls like Jimmy Iovine, Clive Davis, Doug Morris, Barry Weiss, L.A Reid etc.? From what I've read here and there they all seem to be incredibly twisted and weird.
-Dream Big
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cosigns....1000%...exactly!
Please reread my post if that person is racists keep them away. Why is it so hard to understand that? If they have any dislikes towards black women then why would my son bring home a woman like that? HIS MOTHER IS A BLACK WOMAN!
Don't listen to these idiots...Topix is filled with white racist,white women,white men and self hating IRblacks...
And now we live in a time where these morons act as if everyone is obligated to be open to whatever everyone else is...
So now whites want to date and marry blacks...so this means that we are all supposed to just go with the program...I don't think so!
AS I STATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THREAD...MY WIFE AND I REALIZE THAT WHO OUR SONS DATE,COURT AND MARRY WILL IN THE END BE THEIR CHOICES TO MAKE...
BUT IF YOU WERE TO ASK US WHO WE WOULD PREFER THEM TO MARRY....
NICE,EDUCATED,INTELLIGENT,DECE NT,CULTURED BLACK GIRLS...FROM NICE FAMILIES...WHO SHARE THE SAME VALUES AND ETHICS AS WE HAVE INSTILLED INTO OUR SONS!
NOT BECKY...NOR ANYONE ELSE!
IF THAT OFFENDS ANYONE HERE...SO BE IT...I COULDN'T GIVE A RATS A___!
*BLACK PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR DAMN MINDS...AND DON'T HAVE THE SENSE TO COME IN OUT OF THE RAIN...NOW US WANTING TO BE WITH OUR OWN KIND....MAKES US A RACIST...B____________!
-Moorspeaks
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Interesting how many careers waned once Whitney came along
...Phyll is Hyman, Miki Howard, etc, (at least that's what the Unsung episodes claim). Who ever said Phyllis burned her bridges with Clive is correct. He was very controlling i.e. not wanting her to perform on Broadway to the type of music she recorded, but Phyllis was not having it...to be controlled was not part of her nature. Her career suffered as a result although she went on to have some success with Gamble and Huff at PI (Philadelphia International)
-Grayton1
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fyi Clive Davis is not the man who discovered Whitney even though he gets all the credit. Monti Lueftner did. Whitney had a team of handlers that controlled and molded her into the superstar she was. No, it wasn't Clive calling all the shots. Just know that that Clive answers to honchos more powerful than he.
-Miss Jackson
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Exactly but you know how pseudo scientists are & how they like to 'cover up'.
I think Darwin was just a complete racist who tried to come up with theories of how the white race is superior to other races, Darwin forgot to mention that Europeans all have 4% Neanderthal genes, meaning that whites are a result of mix breeding between modern humans and Neanderthals.
Whites didn't evolve, they are a direct "interspecies hybrid" from Humans and ape-men!!!
-Redefined
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What the older women says is crystal clear. The whites absolutely and with out question shunned the Asians out of their hair care companies. However, blacks were open and had no foresight, and today we are hanging by the last finger trying to pull ourselves up from the mess we allowed to happen. It really urkes me how gullible we were and currently are. We need to become more educated about economics PERIOD. Because right now during economic hardships, MONEY MATTERS. Not to mention some of the best times to start a business is during poor economic times. So it is NOW time for blacks to pick up a back bone and a book and carry our own weight so that we can rise and have our beautiful generations running it after we're gone.
Lolo, hey Fred, I think he was talking about selling food not Jewellery!... "£50k", lol... Even so, with a sound business plan and a few investors (maybe a bank or some private investment) and some good business advice, it can easily be done, do you really think all those Immigrant Chinese, Arabs, Paki's, Polish and Indian store owners had £50k to start-up a grocery store?...
Lmao.
“Intelligence rules the world, ignorance carries the burden...”
― Marcus Garvey
-Near Future
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Our people tend to harbour the mentality of "everything being impossible or hard so why bother, we have no money, can't get hold of money so therefore we will never have nothing"! Meanwhile we sit and watch the poorest Asian immigrants who can barely speak a word of english move into our neighbourhoods with hardly any money and then run successful businesses, then we complain about them taking business and money from the black communities, when did we become so retarded?
Exactly! No matter when we decide to make a business the Chinese will still be there. They're not going to let up just so blacks can slide in easy. This is why we keep sitting our azzes down not doing anythng to improve! We are intimidated and doubtful and don't want to take risks as a race. You know what I've noticed? Many blacks make jokes about Whites doing dangerous things like sky diving, doing documentaries on dangerous animals and other extreme things. We call them crazy or say "black people don't climb mountains", etc. Yet it just seems to me that blacks limit themselves to new experiences and the wonders of the world because it's "not what black people do". So we really limit ourselves based on a stereotype we give ourselves.
Business is all about competition; competition will always be there, it means that there is a demand for that particular product, we have to learn to exploit this fact. We think like cowardly losers that are afraid to take risks, that is why we lose all the time. We don't have to be rich to start a business, many people start businesses with no money, they got off of their asses and raised the capital one way or the other.
Every other race of people on earth have a "go get mind-set" we on the other hand have a "can't do" mentality. I have often told a true story of 20 Rastafarian men during the 1980's who put their money together and purchased 3 houses in a row, fixed them up and used them as a community base, they ran many operations like, training, workshops, shows, organised community activities, rehabilitation, selling organic foods, working as tradesmen for hire (carpenters, plumbers, plasterers etc...) They made a lot of money and later opened various shops with the proceeds, even other races in the community used to come to us for help, lol.... My father was one of the main organisers within this group, so I can testify to what black unity can do... Individual success for blacks is limited unified success is limitless.
We used to see houses with up to 15 Asians living in each while driving crappy Nissan sunny's or battered Datsun's, but slowly these Asians started buying houses one by one and moving out, now they are laughing at us! They were saving their money that is how they raised their deposits...
I think we need to stop thinking in a self defeatist manner, we keep ourselves firmly at the bottom of the pile with our "can't do-everything is too hard" mentality, this is not how men and women think, this is how children think... We lack self belief, racial-pride and determination and we have grown accustomed to failure, If you tell a black man to go and achieve something, he will then give you a million reasons why he can't do it.
-The Revolutionist
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DNA evidence shows that all Blacks were not brought to the Americas as slaves.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19455-g...
-Redefined
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Most whites think that Africa is one big Jungle, but actually only 6% of Africa is tropical rainforest.
Racists are easily manipulated by the media, I partly blame the media tor always showing the poor and war torn areas in Africa, and the so called "primitive" tribes in Africa they always mention as living in mud huts and using spears only account for less than 1% of Africa.
They refuse to acknowledge this, they have a preconcieved notion that is obviously incorrect but if it insults blacks they are in high favor
Africa is mainly savannah and grassy plains. There is more jungle in South America!!!
White people are obsessed with tribes who refuse to live their modern way of life and shun technology, that is their choice, they don't have to live the way they do...
Maybe we should find the poorest whites like trailer trash, wiggers, chavs and gypsies and use them as a representation of how most whites live, let's see how they like that!
-The Revolutionist
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TIPTG77UL0LFSU80B/p117
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Once again you are wrong, here's some hard evidence; this is a part of a video by the BBC (so you know it is credible) showing African cave paintings clearly of sub-saharan Africans with a horse with saddle and briddle and an ox drawn plow, it can't get more credible than that, clear thousand year old cave paintings:(Note: This is in reference to the pure-blooded Negro.)
He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use (although many powerful and docile beasts abounded around him.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Africans cultivated crops 12,000 years ago, the first known advances in agriculture. Professor Fred Wendorf discovered that people in Egypt’s Western Desert cultivated crops of barley, capers, chick-peas, dates, legumes, lentils and wheat. Their ancient tools were also recovered. There were grindstones, milling stones, cutting blades, hide scrapers, engraving burins, and mortars and pestles.
Wrong, West Africans were in control of many trade routes and most certaintly used various ways of transporting goods, with domesticated animals and other meansHis only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head.
WRONG, only 2% of Africa traditionally live in mud huts as part of their culture such as the bushmen, Africans have long created many complex architecture and cities:for shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable."
In central Nigeria, West Africa’s oldest civilisation flourished between 1000 BC and 300 BC. Discovered in 1928, the ancient culture was called the Nok Civilisation, named after the village in which the early artefacts were discovered. Two modern scholars, declare that “[a]fter calibration, the period of Nok art spans from 1000 BC until 300 BC”. The site itself is much older going back as early as 4580 or 4290 BC.
http://www.viamigo.com/img/l/p_o_s_t/54/mauri...
West Africans built in stone by 1100 BC. In the Tichitt-Walata region of Mauritania, archaeologists have found “large stone masonry villages” that date back to 1100 BC. The villages consisted of roughly circular compounds connected by “well-defined streets”.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Kumbi Saleh, the capital of Ancient Ghana, flourished from 300 to 1240 AD. Located in modern day Mauritania, archaeological excavations have revealed houses, almost habitable today, for want of renovation and several storeys high. They had underground rooms, staircases and connecting halls. Some had nine rooms. One part of the city alone is estimated to have housed 30,000 people.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WNRICGdJWtI/SfUOJz2...
Lord Lugard, an English official, estimated in 1904 that there were 170 walled towns still in existence in the whole of just the Kano province of northern Nigeria.
The recently discovered 9th century Nigerian city of Eredo was found to be surrounded by a wall that was 100 miles long and seventy feet high in places. The internal area was a staggering 400 square miles.
Drawing by European officer:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
African Historical Ruins - you never see on TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And did you know that the European Sami people still today live in twig huts?
http://taigabiome.files.wordpress.com/2007/11...
-Near Future
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Wrong, Africans have incorporated these elements into their cities but I’ll elaborate more on that latera plow, a road, a bridge
Africans did not have railways, the railroad was a 19th century European invention in Americaa railway
Wrong, the oldest purpose boat is found in Africa:a ship
http://wysinger.homestead.com/boatpit2.jpg
ship statue:
http://crazyparentingideas.files.wordpress.co...
Wrong again, the oldest use of math is with the African Ishango bone:a system of measurement
http://www.taneter.org/ishango.jpg
Africans pioneered basic arithmetic 25,000 years ago. The Ishango bone is a tool handle with notches carved into it found in the Ishango region of Zaïre (now called Congo) near Lake Edward. The bone tool was originally thought to have been over 8,000 years old, but a more sensitive recent dating has given dates of 25,000 years old. On the tool are 3 rows of notches. Row 1 shows three notches carved next to six, four carved next to eight, ten carved next to two fives and finally a seven. The 3 and 6, 4 and 8, and 10 and 5, represent the process of doubling. Row 2 shows eleven notches carved next to twenty-one notches, and nineteen notches carved next to nine notches. This represents 10 + 1, 20 + 1, 20 - 1 and 10 - 1. Finally, Row 3 shows eleven notches, thirteen notches, seventeen notches and nineteen notches. 11, 13, 17 and 19 are the prime numbers between 10 and 20.
Wrong, ancient Nubians used water wheels frequently:, or even the wheel.
http://www.bing.com/images/search...
And pottery wheels were commonplace in some African cities
-Near Future
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TIPTG77UL0LFSU80B/p117
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White people are very short sited and have delusions of granduer. In this day and age they reap the benefits of their forefathers who came to power at the expense of the suffering of other nationalities in the past. White people do not like acknowledging the other people in the past that their forefathers screwed over because it is the horrible reality of their forefathers and they would rather believe such events as the Trans-atlantic slave trade and the Native American genocide as humanitarian events (funny how they twist it). The overused "if we didn't bring you out of Africa" line is their way of saying black people should be grateful to them for enslaving millions of black people's ancestors, having them walk miles in chains to the slave port castles dehydrated and hungry, keeping them in dark dank prisons until they were stuffed into ships having to p___ and s___ on themselves and other blacks because they couldn't move around, throwing their dead corpses off ships to be eaten by sharks, whipping slaves on their backs and then throwing lemon juice on the wounds, tieing run-away slaves to four horses to be pulled apart in all directions infront of black women and children to discourage them from escaping, cutting their hands off if they were caught reading or teaching another slave to read, bombing black governed towns after emancipation, hanging blacks just because of the color of their skin.
They know that their history is one of the most gruesome and crinimal, yet project their views on others. they tell black people that we lived in mud huts and used curses from witch doctors, because they don't know that black people ruled advanced civilizations before precolonial rule, and created many medicines that they claim they created, they don't know that we created the first universities and were at one time the wealthiest people on earth. They ignore these facts becuase it is a threat to the false belief of white superiority, they probably do know the wonders of African civilization but because they have to uphold the mantra of white superiority they dismiss it, even allowing themselves to look like fools just to prove an improvable belief. And if my history treated human rights so viciously and without care like whites I'd probably say that making people suffer perpetually and making sure their children never have futures beyond serving others was for their own good too (NOT). You see white people like the idea of being superior and looking at others as inferior because it makes them feel a sense of purpose but the problem is they are not superior, and this makes them angry, and black people, this is why they hate you, because they want to be superior but we don't acknowledge them as such because they aren't and they feel it is a challenge. This is why they come to African American Forums, they feel that black people should be kissing them on the feet and worshipping them but there never was and never will be a reason for white people to even be thought of as anything but our equals.
To keep this idea of white superiority they have presented themselves positively in the media while at the same time disparaging others. Just think of all the racist jokes you can make of non-black people and now think of racist white jokes...I'm sure you can't think of many, guess who created the bulk of the jokes? White people. White people do not care to learn other cultures which is why they still say black people live in mud huts, they believe that anything that is white is right and anything that is colored is dullard. Not to say that being proud of being white is a bad thing but its good to respect other people's cultures, the reason racism exists is because no one looks at anything with detail, we use stereotypes to define people for us, and it is just plain inacurate. If everyone learned eachothers history we'd be much better off and ignorance would be expressed at a lesser degree.
-Near Future
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It's hypocritical to have rammed that unfunded Medicare program thru and then complain about big government. All the name calling won't change that.
M smack seems to like to parrot the far left's talking points that somehow the 70 page Romneycare is somehow the same as the over 2,000 page obamacare? Dumbazz. Tax and spend demorats always fail to realize of course that the prescription drug plan was absolutely the last big gov program that we could barely afford.
While you're blathering about some far left talking point, other than just saying No more Obama are the Republicans really all about? Continuing subsidies to the wealthy bankers and other large corporate interests.
What is the Republican agenda other than a vote against Obama?
-Ms Mack
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Me being pro black does not mean Im not mean I dont like people who are intelligent, insightful, realiable, or hardworking where are you getting this non sense? Im pro black because thats what I am has nothing to do with being less or better than someone you take things way out of proportion.
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You pass judgement and make wrong accusations against other people.
That's not pro Black. It's pro Stupid.
Racism exists kip if you cant see it then your delusional. And My accusations are based of of personal experience which has noting to do with being pro black, pro black is loving your people, making a family with a black man, involving myself in the black community and trying to help other blacks. I represent black love til the end. You represent hate and racism and you also harvar bitterness towards black women thats why you always attack them when they make personal statements.
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Yes brotha timothy they are attacking but I dont care im still doing me and all I can say is Hi haters!!! Let them keep on with their rants and hateful comments it only makes me stronger. And it makes my points even more valid.You know you hit a nerve when some of the IR BM come out in mass to attack you.
Keep up the good work sister. It's takes a real "sick" man to target a black sister expressing a legitimate point about racial solidarity. Real sisters aren't threatened by a white woman. In reality, black unity is a must in the 21st century.
-beautiful black woman
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You and a few others on this topic seem to be the only ones who truely understand from a black mothers point of view. Thank you for coming forward and expressing your thoughts on this matter. I agree 100%It's kind of hilarious that the same racists lecture us on culture and they actually obsess with us. The reality is that it is just for a black mother to not desire her son to deal with a racist white woman. I do believe that in 2012, more blacks are waking up. Ever since 2009, a lot of white people expressed their true feelings in public about blacks. Now, a man loving the mirror image of the opposite gender (or females) is so much superior than self-hatred (or a black person worshipping whiteness like a mental slave). A black man or a black person in general will never kiss up to assimiliate with the agenda of white racists. All black people have the right to be unique, express independent thinking, to have love for their own people in a firm fashion.
-beautiful black woman
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T2TO5UETEFQ0GJNRO/p18
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Willis
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