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Obama's rhetoric may transcent Black politics
tvera618 - 05/24/2013 - 20:01
As Mr. Ford has insightfully suggested numerous times, the Age of Obama has brought us a new standard of cooptation, not just of Black dissent but any progress toward conscientization of anyone having progressive leanings. Today I listened to Obama's speech regarding Guantanamo. He said "history will cast a harsh judgment on this aspect of our fight against terrorism and those of us who fail to end it. Imagine a future, 10 years from now or 20 years from now, when the United States of America is still holding people who have been charged with no crime on a piece of land that is not part of our country. Look at the current situation, where we are force-feeding detainees who are hold—being held on a hunger strike. I’m willing to cut the young lady who interrupted me some slack, because it’s worth being passionate about. Is that who we are? Is that something our founders foresaw? Is that the America we want to leave to our children? . . . .Our sense of justice is stronger than that."
Remarkably, except for the last few seconds on DemocracyNow, where I heard the commentary, little time was given to deconstructing the incredibly fierce tone of Obama's moral rhetoric condeming his own actions. This, to me, is the new political rhetoric that I still hope will be resoundingly rejected in the near future by the voting public, including Black America when it's no longer a Black leader that it feels compelled to protect.
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Remarkably, except for the last few seconds on DemocracyNow, where I heard the commentary, little time was given to deconstructing the incredibly fierce tone of Obama's moral rhetoric condeming his own actions. This, to me, is the new political rhetoric that I still hope will be resoundingly rejected in the near future by the voting public, including Black America when it's no longer a Black leader that it feels compelled to protect.
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Hotep, Thank you
DaudMusa - 05/22/2013 - 23:40
Hotep,
Thank you Mr. Ford [Again] for your expert analysis. I had this very discussion with my father 5 years ago. He felt strongly about the "changes" he has seen over his then 75 years of black working class life and history. He remarked on how there was so much acceptance and practise of inter-racial relationships along with the influx of Hispanics, that he rejoiced in declaring that the 'white man's total rule will soon be over.'
I simply remarked, "Dad, haven't you heard of South Africa, where even after the election of Mandela, whites still control the wealth and resources and most of the natives wallow in poverty? Don't you think the same thing can happen here?" He disagreed for on the horizon, canditate Obama was on the rise. His eventual vote for him would be his way of 'sticking it to the man!' I remarked that if he get in, it would only be because 'the man' wanted him to be there, because Obama will do his bidding. My father scoffed.
As the years have past, I would periodically update my father on the very facts you Mr. Ford have mentioned about the Obama administration and the actual status of blacks in America. Over time his responses have been less vibrant yet still supportive of Obama, but less hopeful of a 'people of color ascension to power' as he had been years before.
After sharing with him just weeks ago the facts about Obama's sequestration, the plight of the black famers, the closure of majority black schools and our continued loss of wealth in America, my father was more hesitant, but still out of zinc with the reality of our current and long term situation in this country. His pride would not allow him to give up 'sticking it to the man' through his support for Obama, but on the idea that somehow blacks, hispanics or bi-racial Americans would some day hold the reins of true power in this country, my 80 year old father simply said, "Well I won't be here... That will by your fight."
Hetepu
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Ms. J says:
But I believe that most of our oppression is psychological. As long as White people have us internalizing the idea that we need to depend on them for everything – education, housing, employment – we’re going to be crushed when they take it away. They’re doing it little by little until they go back to the “Good ‘ole days”.
Now I realize why White folks were saying, “Let’s take America back!”, immediately after President Obama entered office. Although people like Tim Wise would have you believing that they are delusional for saying such things, I realized that they were just using code words to signal the gloves coming off.
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TrojanPam says:
@ Rose
In the event of a ‘purge,’ the biggest weapon black people will have — in my opinion — is each other.
Unfortunately, due to integration, extreme white identification, and sexing, marrying and breeding with whites (and other non-blacks) — our DISUNITY has compounded our SLAVE TRAUMA
meaning we have NEVER been allowed to heal our minds, hearts, relationships and families — and in FACT have been WARRED upon by the white supremacy system for OVER 500 years.
The MAIN problem among black people as I see it is NOT a lack of safe houses, or bunkers
IT IS ANTI-BLACKNESS where black people VIEW each other through CONDEMNING ‘WHITE EYES’
We cannot be ‘safe’ when we don’t like or trust each other. Black people’s ONLY ALLIES ARE EACH OTHER — and it’s TIME we stop looking for VALIDATION in the arms of non-blacks — and find a way to VALIDATE OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER.
We can’t have “safe houses” within UNSAFE black communities. We can’t have strong and safe black communities without BLACK UNITY — and even then the white supremacists will INTRODUCE DRUGS and VIOLENCE but–
we stand a BETTER CHANCE IF WE CAN STAND TOGETHER.
because the REALITY is, for the white supremacists to destroy us, they NEED OUR COOPERATION.
Black unity requires STRONG AND UNITED black males and females COMING TOGETHER out of a mutual understanding — that we have been DAMAGED — and AGREEING that it is NOT ‘her’ or ‘his’ fault that we are damaged because NO BLACK PERSON is in charge in a white supremacy system.
WE MUST STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER for what white people have done to BOTH OF US
AND a necessary beginning is to STOP HAVING SEX WITH THE (WHITE) PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT OUR OPPRESSION and who WHISPER IN OUR EAR, “psst, black man or black woman, you can’t trust that black woman or black man.”
It is tragic that black people want to be liberated from racism, but can’t understand that WE CANNOT HAVE SEX WITH WHITE PEOPLE AND STILL ACCOMPLISH THAT.
Liberation requires REGAINING OUR SELF-RESPECT AND A LOVE AND RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER
that’s why we did the book, “Black Love Is A Revolutionary Act‘ to explain what happened to the black male and female relationship AND the black family during 400 years of chattel slavery
unfortunately, most black people — in my experience — avoid thinking about slavery and racism on a serious level AND so, we cannot FIX what ails us
as far as your question, I don’t have any quick answers but I would say a HUGE start would be to start educating ourselves about the system of white supremacy, to work harder to treat other black people correctly, and to work on our OWN anti-blackness.
white people don’t like each other — that much is obvious — but they understand the POWER of UNITY. They will support and take up for their worst white enemy when it comes to a conflict between that white person and a non-white person
because they understand that they don’t have to like ALL white people, but that their SAFETY AND SECURITY LIES IN WHITE UNITY. and that UNITY exists even within a white person who lays down every night with a black male or female — believe that.
I’m not blaming us for our mental illness and self-hatred issues, that was something that was DONE to us but until we change the way we THINK, TALK AND ACT, no house will be a ‘safe house’
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TrojanPam says:
@ Kushite Prince
there is a DIRECT LINK between the type of Christianity that white slave-owners taught the slaves AND the continued ACCEPTANCE of white domination by black people today.
A white God and a white Jesus ROOTED in a black mind is a TRAGEDY waiting to happen
And many black people are JUST as offended when you criticize a “well-meaning” white person as they are if you criticized (white) God or Jesus
How can there NOT be a LINK between the two?
and since I have already posted many times on this thread about this, I will cut my response short
Thank you Mr. Ford [Again] for your expert analysis. I had this very discussion with my father 5 years ago. He felt strongly about the "changes" he has seen over his then 75 years of black working class life and history. He remarked on how there was so much acceptance and practise of inter-racial relationships along with the influx of Hispanics, that he rejoiced in declaring that the 'white man's total rule will soon be over.'
I simply remarked, "Dad, haven't you heard of South Africa, where even after the election of Mandela, whites still control the wealth and resources and most of the natives wallow in poverty? Don't you think the same thing can happen here?" He disagreed for on the horizon, canditate Obama was on the rise. His eventual vote for him would be his way of 'sticking it to the man!' I remarked that if he get in, it would only be because 'the man' wanted him to be there, because Obama will do his bidding. My father scoffed.
As the years have past, I would periodically update my father on the very facts you Mr. Ford have mentioned about the Obama administration and the actual status of blacks in America. Over time his responses have been less vibrant yet still supportive of Obama, but less hopeful of a 'people of color ascension to power' as he had been years before.
After sharing with him just weeks ago the facts about Obama's sequestration, the plight of the black famers, the closure of majority black schools and our continued loss of wealth in America, my father was more hesitant, but still out of zinc with the reality of our current and long term situation in this country. His pride would not allow him to give up 'sticking it to the man' through his support for Obama, but on the idea that somehow blacks, hispanics or bi-racial Americans would some day hold the reins of true power in this country, my 80 year old father simply said, "Well I won't be here... That will by your fight."
Hetepu
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It looks like "The Man" is
beverly - 05/23/2013 - 20:21
It looks like "The Man" is sticking it to the black masses rather than the other way round. "The Man" knew exactly what it would take to shut up black dissent - put a black face at the top. It's working out so well "The Man" is kicking self for not thinking of this idea sooner.
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"Sticking It To the Man" says it all
Enlightened Cynic - 05/23/2013 - 09:56
Your story is incredibly illuminating and provides us with the touchstone of why Blacks unconditionally support Obama. I can't say it any better than your Pops proclaimed it: They believe they are "sticking it to the man," that's why he has "swag," when he takes the podium at a press conference. In reality, and no offense to your Pops, I'm speaking of the collective, it's about as infantile and childish a notion as you can get. Symbolic bullshiggity in other words.
As it relates to the future of Black Politics and the raising of a Black Political Consciousness, you can forget about it sad to say. I have another old school saying your Dad might appreciate. My Mom always told me, "the Bible says our children/offspring will grow WEAKER and WISER." I suppose by wiser she meant wordly and by weaker.... well, hell.. you know what she means.
Wiser for sure ain't intellect. In fact studies show that's declining.
Humans may be gradually losing intelligence, according to a new study.
The study, published today (Nov. 12) in the journal Trends in Genetics, argues that humans lost the evolutionary pressure to be smart once we started living in dense agricultural settlements several thousand years ago.
"The development of our intellectual abilities and the optimization of thousands ofintelligence genes probably occurred in relatively non-verbal, dispersed groups of peoples [living] before our ancestors emerged from Africa," said study author Gerald Crabtree, a researcher at Stanford University, in a statement.
Since then it's all been downhill, Crabtree contends.
EC: No crap. Since Obama it's all been downhill too, and it hasn't flatlined yet. I will say this much, if Black Politics can be revivied it d______ sure will be someone from the lower caste leading the way, it won't be a Morehouse or Spellman grad, that's for d______ sure.
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Sangoma on said:
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Miguel is half Mexican. I heard that his father is an illegal immigrant. Instead of jumping on the necks of white b______ at award shows, Miguel should jump his a____ across the Mexican border where his fathers people are and he’ll see how judgmental those racist Mexicans are about people (even their own people) with darker skin.
How come he’s not judging his Mexican fathers people who are out there in California terrorizing black people? I read a story about a black woman who was chased out of a neighborhood by Mexicans in L.A. who stood on her property and yelled racist remarks to her and her kids. They said they didn’t want her in the neighborhood because she’s black. They wouldn’t like Miguel either because he got a little black in him, but WE are the judgmental ones?
I liked Miguel’s music and supported him, but I won’t buy it anymore. Seems like black folks are always supporting people and accepting people who for they are, and in the end we get s_--- on by people who make these slick a_____ comments.
-A Person
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Sheep Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 08:26
nicoleizhername, they treated that black woman and her children like garbage. They call it “ethnic cleansing”. Just google “L.A. Mexicans ethnic cleansing” and you’ll see what I’m talking about. When is Miguel going to speak about that? He’s so proud of the fact that his father is Mexican, but will judge the entire black race on his mothers?
Aren’t the Mexicans being judgmental when they are chasing black folks out of what used to be working class black neighborhoods? Blacks are moving out of California left and right because they are getting tired of it, and it is sad.
It will be a cold day in hell before I support someone who will judge my ENTIRE race based on a few knuckleheads that clown him on the internet for wearing high heels and doing WWE moves at award shows. It shows what he really thinks about us blacks who have supported his career from the start. I enjoyed his music, but when they start making comments like this, it’s time to find some other music to listen to.
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nicoleizhername Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 08:54
Thank You. All Truth. Appreciate the info.Funny how Obama & Co. stay quiet as fuq about Cali & the mexicans as long as they don’t run up in white folks neighborhoods and set up shop it’s all good..smmfh. It’s a new era in (our) music. We just let everybody in. Now we got Timberfake/Miguel/Bruno Mars all up in the family.Have you noticed that the common denominator is bm who discover/create/produce for othas, but we can’t seem to find them to fight back when it’s needed in our communities.They just taking orders for what will work for somebody else and not their own.I’m about sick of it.So the bm gets his wish and magically remove the wm from this planet. What he fails to realize is that he is still going to have to deal with the brown one, the yellow one and beige one as well. Dr. Amos Wilson said this more than 20 years ago. We still haven’t learned and if we keep going at this ignorant rate we going to pay hard for this.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 08:28
@f-him….u shouldnt have been buying his crap in the first place, its immoral and nothing uplifting about his music,period!! I wish alot of people like yourself take the time out and listen to the words of a song u are listening to, to see what u are allowing into your spirit (mind)!! Which can create corrupt thoughts, that turns into actions, that becomes your habits, that will become a spiritual yoke! Then u will need the power of GOD to break that demon away, by becoming saved and rejecting what u accepted into your mind by way of sin,that is this man music (many others)and what it stands for,absolutely nothing!!!
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Sha Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 07:52
White people are A LOT MORE judgmental! I dare him to openly acknowledge that. KKK rings any bells? Tea Party rings any bells? Every day assassination attempts on the country’s first Black president by Whites (and Mexicans/Hispanics alike) because of his skin color, rings any bells. What about all these hate crimes against the gay community committed in this country by majority whites? Does that sound any alarms? And the biggest judgment of all, racism, discrimination and prejudice committed predominantly toward Black people the world over by EVERY-damn-BODY, including Black people or people who have Black in them? So much for Black people being so d_______ judgmental, when we allow every damn body to come into our communities and open up shop without petition or protest. And we support them more than ourselves and they are rarely held to task to invest back into the communities that sustain them. And Black people are so judgmental, right?
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Sha Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 07:56
Hello! His girlfriend is Middle Eastern or Indian or some shit like that. Of course he doesn’t like or appreciate his Blackness. Funny, I wonder what his Black mother would say. The Black mother that raised him as a single parent. Where she at? But you see him hugging and kissing his Mexican father on the red carpet.
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Hello U Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 13:01
You are right. He was indeed being called out. A brother called @Wil Glover specifically said to Miguel (Miguel responded) that his song Use Me lyrics are questionable. He said in a so called romantic song where Miguel is singing ‘Defile me, sedate me, curse me’. There is only one person he could be singing that to and it ain’t God. Miguel obviously was not amused. Starting cussing Christians for wearing the cross (Apparently a pagan symbol) and then of course the infamous rant about ALL black people being judgemental. I really think that brother Wil hit a nerve.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 16:23
How many people in this thread every bought a Miquel CD?
We don’t pay Miquel. Miquel’s white bosses pay him and placed him in the the strategically public position he is in to satisfy a particular agenda.
He’s a puppet on a string and a victim of the system. He has to do what he is told and many times these celebrities says things that are SCRIPTED for them to say by the Corporation they may work for as part of a particular social experiement to guage public reaction to certain stimuli and social topics…
Even President Obama has a white script writer and a teleprompter that tells him exactly what to say.
Lets take for instance President Obamas most recent visit to Moorehouse University to take black folks out to the woodshed again with the same old tired white minded sterortypes about black people being lazy and excuses makers as opposed to dealing with the real problem which is racism….Believe you me…A WRITE RACIST SPEECHWRITER WHO HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO OBAMA , WROTE THOSE WORDS FOR HIM…Listening to the speech was like listening to what white racists say amongst each other who wants to talk about everything except for JUSTICE.
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CaliDream Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 19:36
Mexicans are like creoles or mullattoes…spain believed in making their colonies white so they systematically raped the women & killed the men…whites wrote the books you are reading, they want you to believe that this is some new group of people, named them “latinos” they are NOT latin! Hispania was the roman name of spain in EUROPE, whites renamed these people “hispanics” as the property of hispania, just like they renamed africa, the months of the year, days of the week…its what they do, rename & rewrite history in their favor, but if we were the creators then we have to start using our own brains & articulate what is really going on…just look at mexicans, especially if you go there, you can clearly see they are people of color, some of them were never even brainwashed to speak spanish, but they don’t tell you that in school…mexicans are native americans go to a indian reservation & ask them, they know!
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CaliDream Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 23:06
the Olmecs, the Teotihuacans, the Mayans, the Mixtecs, the Zapotecs, the Tarascans, the Totonacs and the Aztecs…mexicans columbians,,etc are a later descendents of them all…the olmecs were 1st major civilization, true…is mexico being run by white spanish puppets, yes…but the point is that the “bottom” class in the majority & they are not alien to this land, they fought to get the spaniards out, regardless of european blood being raped into some of them, they know who they are & they are NOT european, the same thing happened to US…so what is your point? Are you trying to defend whites & what they have done & are currently doing to these people? That’s never going to happen, I hope they continue to have lots of babies & repopulate their land…
CaliDream | May 28th, 2013 at 10:42
Not true, I have been around mexicans all my life in S. Cali & they are very loving people of color that are being oppressed by whites just like us…not to mention they are indigenous to this land yet ignorant people smart of the whiteman’s lies want to call them “aliens”…if you just open your eyes you would see how they also stole land in africa & will call black africans “aliens” & “illegals”…same thing in australia when the aboriginals had no rights ON THEIR OWN LAND…how you repeat the words of the devil as truth after everything whites have done to us I will never know, whites came here raped & killed these people then bought us over as slaves to work their land & you agree?? Are you serious?
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crazychris Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 10:18
that’s why they called it the british invasion whites from the uk listewned to the blues made by blacks from the rural south they took it and got rich.
clapton dated betty davis after she divorced miles guess he wanted to satisfy his lust for black women at least once in his life.
that’s another why jimi hendrix went to london and kicked eric’s a____ on guitar and the brits worshipped clapton calling him god til hendrix came on his turf and kicked all those white boys a____.
whites had no choice but inituate hendrix into their club and teach him the doctrines of crowley, the occult, and turn him on to hard drug which became hendrix downfall but guys like clapton can still make black music and sell regardless of him doimng an album with bb king and making songhs with buddy guy.
a shame to see white artists claim black music and love black music and act, talk and speak black slang but marry their own kind.
miley cyrus little freak a___ twerking in a bunny suit i think and doing drugs and let’s not forget she’s engaged to a white guy while black men this country is lusting over her drugged out a____.
so what amanda bynes likes black men she’s going through a phase but let’s not forhet she’s a white girl and on drugs black men don’t care.
britney had black men but who’d she marry.
same thing with christina aguilera, fergie, pink, katy perry, and j lo while they all may have had sex with a black guy one time or another they married people within their race.
madonna has a biracial child but she never married outside her raCE.
ANOTHER OD REASON WHY WHITE CELEBS ADOPT BLACK BABIES.
NICOLE KIDMAN DATED LENNY KRAVITZ, PUFFY AND Q TIP BUT SHE NEVER MARRIED A BLACK GUY.
THE ELITE ONLY ALLOWS BLACKS WHO THEY APPROVE TO MARRY HIGH PROFILE WHITE WOMEN WHICH WAS WHY MICHAEL JACKSON WAS ALLOWED TO MARRY LISA MARIE THE DAUGHTER OF THE WHITE LORD AND SAVIOR ELVIS OR EVILS PRESLEY.
IF HALLE BERRY WAS’NT PART OF THAT CLUB AND CROSSEDOVER SHE WOULD STILL BE MAKING FILMS WITH THE BLACKS WHO SHE DON’T WANNA HANG AROUND BUT SHE MADE IT SO SHE’S ALLOWED TO DATE WHITE MEN ALONG WITH KERRY WASHINGTON, ZOE SALDANA, AISHA TYLER, SANAA LATHAN AND THE OTHER FEW BLACK GIRLS WHO PASSED THE TEST.
HOW ELSE COULD DORIS DAY EVEN BE ALLOWED TO DATE SLY STONE’S DRUGGIE A___ BACK IN THE 70′S COME ON MIDDLE AGED WHITE WOMAN MOVIE LEGEND WITH A BLACK HIPPIE ROCKER.
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TrojanPam says:
@ Kushite
yes, black people are thrilled when a white person says ANYTHING that sounds halfway correct (and it usually is only half-way) or gives us ANY kind of validation or recognition
(something that ALL white anti-racists use to their great sexual and financial advantage!)
All they have to do is say, “oh yes, you black people are being mistreated!” and we JUMP out of our seats with joy as a good white person finally acknowledges our humanity!
I believe this is true because we have been so greatly victimized by white people for such a long period of time
that ANY sign (OR pretense) of friendliness or kindness or understanding or compassion is a welcome RELIEF, like,
“whew! I’m so RELIEVED this white person is not beating me up like all the other white people do!”
It’s like a person who has been starved for so long and finally gets a morsel of food
he or she is SO grateful they don’t care where the food comes from (or if its rotten or spoiled)
we have been STARVED for kindness for so long that ANY white person who shows kindness or says a friendly word is like a morsel of food to a starving person
and at that point, they can INSULT us, LIE to us, SEX us, cheat us, marry us and divorce us, taking ALL our hard-earned millions, and make us turn against each other, betray each other, and reject each other
just to get another MORSEL of food (kindness) and validation from a white person
What we’re looking at is the need for WHITE VALIDATION and a white person doesn’t have to do very much to get MAXIMUM CREDIT and PRAISE.
Our EXAGGERATED reaction to a white kindness or a friendly word SPEAKS VOLUMES
i think it says that DEEP DOWN we know how absolutely awful and wicked white people have been toward us
so much so that a white person who DOESN’T behave in that fashion makes us feel we must CHERISH the moment!
that says to me, again, that we KNOW what we pretend to NOT TO KNOW
otherwise we would take a white kindness in STRIDE instead of treating it like something to celebrate, or like a RARE JEWEL
white people KNOW this, that is why they have so much fun playing with us and manipulating us and pretending to be kind while making fun of us and sexing us and then discarding us and just all around acting like a cat playing with a confused mouse
that is the height of CRUELTY and of a CRUEL, inhumane nature…
And black people?
Oh yes….
we know deep down exactly know who we are dealing with…and how dangerous and cruel they can be
Our staying in denial of the FACTS AND pretending this is NOT true serves as a “soothing lotion” on our wounded souls
and that is what you’re hearing in that video
dozens of black people applying that “soothing lotion” on a lifetime of white supremacy sores
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As it relates to the future of Black Politics and the raising of a Black Political Consciousness, you can forget about it sad to say. I have another old school saying your Dad might appreciate. My Mom always told me, "the Bible says our children/offspring will grow WEAKER and WISER." I suppose by wiser she meant wordly and by weaker.... well, hell.. you know what she means.
Wiser for sure ain't intellect. In fact studies show that's declining.
Humans may be gradually losing intelligence, according to a new study.
The study, published today (Nov. 12) in the journal Trends in Genetics, argues that humans lost the evolutionary pressure to be smart once we started living in dense agricultural settlements several thousand years ago.
"The development of our intellectual abilities and the optimization of thousands ofintelligence genes probably occurred in relatively non-verbal, dispersed groups of peoples [living] before our ancestors emerged from Africa," said study author Gerald Crabtree, a researcher at Stanford University, in a statement.
Since then it's all been downhill, Crabtree contends.
EC: No crap. Since Obama it's all been downhill too, and it hasn't flatlined yet. I will say this much, if Black Politics can be revivied it d______ sure will be someone from the lower caste leading the way, it won't be a Morehouse or Spellman grad, that's for d______ sure.
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Sangoma on said:
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Miguel is half Mexican. I heard that his father is an illegal immigrant. Instead of jumping on the necks of white b______ at award shows, Miguel should jump his a____ across the Mexican border where his fathers people are and he’ll see how judgmental those racist Mexicans are about people (even their own people) with darker skin.
How come he’s not judging his Mexican fathers people who are out there in California terrorizing black people? I read a story about a black woman who was chased out of a neighborhood by Mexicans in L.A. who stood on her property and yelled racist remarks to her and her kids. They said they didn’t want her in the neighborhood because she’s black. They wouldn’t like Miguel either because he got a little black in him, but WE are the judgmental ones?
I liked Miguel’s music and supported him, but I won’t buy it anymore. Seems like black folks are always supporting people and accepting people who for they are, and in the end we get s_--- on by people who make these slick a_____ comments.
-A Person
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Sheep Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 08:26
nicoleizhername, they treated that black woman and her children like garbage. They call it “ethnic cleansing”. Just google “L.A. Mexicans ethnic cleansing” and you’ll see what I’m talking about. When is Miguel going to speak about that? He’s so proud of the fact that his father is Mexican, but will judge the entire black race on his mothers?
Aren’t the Mexicans being judgmental when they are chasing black folks out of what used to be working class black neighborhoods? Blacks are moving out of California left and right because they are getting tired of it, and it is sad.
It will be a cold day in hell before I support someone who will judge my ENTIRE race based on a few knuckleheads that clown him on the internet for wearing high heels and doing WWE moves at award shows. It shows what he really thinks about us blacks who have supported his career from the start. I enjoyed his music, but when they start making comments like this, it’s time to find some other music to listen to.
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nicoleizhername Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 08:54
Thank You. All Truth. Appreciate the info.Funny how Obama & Co. stay quiet as fuq about Cali & the mexicans as long as they don’t run up in white folks neighborhoods and set up shop it’s all good..smmfh. It’s a new era in (our) music. We just let everybody in. Now we got Timberfake/Miguel/Bruno Mars all up in the family.Have you noticed that the common denominator is bm who discover/create/produce for othas, but we can’t seem to find them to fight back when it’s needed in our communities.They just taking orders for what will work for somebody else and not their own.I’m about sick of it.So the bm gets his wish and magically remove the wm from this planet. What he fails to realize is that he is still going to have to deal with the brown one, the yellow one and beige one as well. Dr. Amos Wilson said this more than 20 years ago. We still haven’t learned and if we keep going at this ignorant rate we going to pay hard for this.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 08:28
@f-him….u shouldnt have been buying his crap in the first place, its immoral and nothing uplifting about his music,period!! I wish alot of people like yourself take the time out and listen to the words of a song u are listening to, to see what u are allowing into your spirit (mind)!! Which can create corrupt thoughts, that turns into actions, that becomes your habits, that will become a spiritual yoke! Then u will need the power of GOD to break that demon away, by becoming saved and rejecting what u accepted into your mind by way of sin,that is this man music (many others)and what it stands for,absolutely nothing!!!
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Sha Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 07:52
White people are A LOT MORE judgmental! I dare him to openly acknowledge that. KKK rings any bells? Tea Party rings any bells? Every day assassination attempts on the country’s first Black president by Whites (and Mexicans/Hispanics alike) because of his skin color, rings any bells. What about all these hate crimes against the gay community committed in this country by majority whites? Does that sound any alarms? And the biggest judgment of all, racism, discrimination and prejudice committed predominantly toward Black people the world over by EVERY-damn-BODY, including Black people or people who have Black in them? So much for Black people being so d_______ judgmental, when we allow every damn body to come into our communities and open up shop without petition or protest. And we support them more than ourselves and they are rarely held to task to invest back into the communities that sustain them. And Black people are so judgmental, right?
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Sha Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 07:56
Hello! His girlfriend is Middle Eastern or Indian or some shit like that. Of course he doesn’t like or appreciate his Blackness. Funny, I wonder what his Black mother would say. The Black mother that raised him as a single parent. Where she at? But you see him hugging and kissing his Mexican father on the red carpet.
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edud01 left a comment
All whites are the SAME. They LIE,LIE, and LIE some more. After CENTURIES of white deception we MUST finially Wake UP. At the end of the day, whites MUST maintain their ideology of supremacy which means they have to let other whites KNOW they haven't forgot their ROOTS. Bill Clinton, who many refered as the FIRST Black president "flipped" on Blacks on several occautions, including at the funeral of Corretta Scott King. His APPERENCE at the Daytona 500 was a "symbolic" nod to racist whites that he was STILL one of them. NY Mayor Bloomberg's recent statement that police were stopping too many whites and not enough Blacks under their "stop and frisk" policy, despite his OWN findings that Blacks made up 85% of those stopped by police, but white made up 80% of those found with weapons. Despite the evidence, Bloomberg HAD to let other whites know he was STILL down with white racial ideology which is ANTI Black. Governor Christe is playing the SAME game.
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Hello U Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 13:01
You are right. He was indeed being called out. A brother called @Wil Glover specifically said to Miguel (Miguel responded) that his song Use Me lyrics are questionable. He said in a so called romantic song where Miguel is singing ‘Defile me, sedate me, curse me’. There is only one person he could be singing that to and it ain’t God. Miguel obviously was not amused. Starting cussing Christians for wearing the cross (Apparently a pagan symbol) and then of course the infamous rant about ALL black people being judgemental. I really think that brother Wil hit a nerve.
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Anonymous Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 16:23
How many people in this thread every bought a Miquel CD?
We don’t pay Miquel. Miquel’s white bosses pay him and placed him in the the strategically public position he is in to satisfy a particular agenda.
He’s a puppet on a string and a victim of the system. He has to do what he is told and many times these celebrities says things that are SCRIPTED for them to say by the Corporation they may work for as part of a particular social experiement to guage public reaction to certain stimuli and social topics…
Even President Obama has a white script writer and a teleprompter that tells him exactly what to say.
Lets take for instance President Obamas most recent visit to Moorehouse University to take black folks out to the woodshed again with the same old tired white minded sterortypes about black people being lazy and excuses makers as opposed to dealing with the real problem which is racism….Believe you me…A WRITE RACIST SPEECHWRITER WHO HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO OBAMA , WROTE THOSE WORDS FOR HIM…Listening to the speech was like listening to what white racists say amongst each other who wants to talk about everything except for JUSTICE.
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CaliDream Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 19:36
Mexicans are like creoles or mullattoes…spain believed in making their colonies white so they systematically raped the women & killed the men…whites wrote the books you are reading, they want you to believe that this is some new group of people, named them “latinos” they are NOT latin! Hispania was the roman name of spain in EUROPE, whites renamed these people “hispanics” as the property of hispania, just like they renamed africa, the months of the year, days of the week…its what they do, rename & rewrite history in their favor, but if we were the creators then we have to start using our own brains & articulate what is really going on…just look at mexicans, especially if you go there, you can clearly see they are people of color, some of them were never even brainwashed to speak spanish, but they don’t tell you that in school…mexicans are native americans go to a indian reservation & ask them, they know!
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CaliDream Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 23:06
the Olmecs, the Teotihuacans, the Mayans, the Mixtecs, the Zapotecs, the Tarascans, the Totonacs and the Aztecs…mexicans columbians,,etc are a later descendents of them all…the olmecs were 1st major civilization, true…is mexico being run by white spanish puppets, yes…but the point is that the “bottom” class in the majority & they are not alien to this land, they fought to get the spaniards out, regardless of european blood being raped into some of them, they know who they are & they are NOT european, the same thing happened to US…so what is your point? Are you trying to defend whites & what they have done & are currently doing to these people? That’s never going to happen, I hope they continue to have lots of babies & repopulate their land…
CaliDream | May 28th, 2013 at 10:42
Not true, I have been around mexicans all my life in S. Cali & they are very loving people of color that are being oppressed by whites just like us…not to mention they are indigenous to this land yet ignorant people smart of the whiteman’s lies want to call them “aliens”…if you just open your eyes you would see how they also stole land in africa & will call black africans “aliens” & “illegals”…same thing in australia when the aboriginals had no rights ON THEIR OWN LAND…how you repeat the words of the devil as truth after everything whites have done to us I will never know, whites came here raped & killed these people then bought us over as slaves to work their land & you agree?? Are you serious?
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crazychris Reply:
May 28th, 2013 at 10:18
that’s why they called it the british invasion whites from the uk listewned to the blues made by blacks from the rural south they took it and got rich.
clapton dated betty davis after she divorced miles guess he wanted to satisfy his lust for black women at least once in his life.
that’s another why jimi hendrix went to london and kicked eric’s a____ on guitar and the brits worshipped clapton calling him god til hendrix came on his turf and kicked all those white boys a____.
whites had no choice but inituate hendrix into their club and teach him the doctrines of crowley, the occult, and turn him on to hard drug which became hendrix downfall but guys like clapton can still make black music and sell regardless of him doimng an album with bb king and making songhs with buddy guy.
a shame to see white artists claim black music and love black music and act, talk and speak black slang but marry their own kind.
miley cyrus little freak a___ twerking in a bunny suit i think and doing drugs and let’s not forget she’s engaged to a white guy while black men this country is lusting over her drugged out a____.
so what amanda bynes likes black men she’s going through a phase but let’s not forhet she’s a white girl and on drugs black men don’t care.
britney had black men but who’d she marry.
same thing with christina aguilera, fergie, pink, katy perry, and j lo while they all may have had sex with a black guy one time or another they married people within their race.
madonna has a biracial child but she never married outside her raCE.
ANOTHER OD REASON WHY WHITE CELEBS ADOPT BLACK BABIES.
NICOLE KIDMAN DATED LENNY KRAVITZ, PUFFY AND Q TIP BUT SHE NEVER MARRIED A BLACK GUY.
THE ELITE ONLY ALLOWS BLACKS WHO THEY APPROVE TO MARRY HIGH PROFILE WHITE WOMEN WHICH WAS WHY MICHAEL JACKSON WAS ALLOWED TO MARRY LISA MARIE THE DAUGHTER OF THE WHITE LORD AND SAVIOR ELVIS OR EVILS PRESLEY.
IF HALLE BERRY WAS’NT PART OF THAT CLUB AND CROSSEDOVER SHE WOULD STILL BE MAKING FILMS WITH THE BLACKS WHO SHE DON’T WANNA HANG AROUND BUT SHE MADE IT SO SHE’S ALLOWED TO DATE WHITE MEN ALONG WITH KERRY WASHINGTON, ZOE SALDANA, AISHA TYLER, SANAA LATHAN AND THE OTHER FEW BLACK GIRLS WHO PASSED THE TEST.
HOW ELSE COULD DORIS DAY EVEN BE ALLOWED TO DATE SLY STONE’S DRUGGIE A___ BACK IN THE 70′S COME ON MIDDLE AGED WHITE WOMAN MOVIE LEGEND WITH A BLACK HIPPIE ROCKER.
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mstoogood4yall on said:
” most white people fully understand the bitterness felt over slavery but they also
know that the bitterness is holding you back. its done and over.”
Let me translate: get over it ur bitterness toward whites is what is keepin you down we aren’t
“most white people fully understand that because you are black that your gonna have some obstacles we dont. we also understand you live in a country where those obstacles can be overcome with determination.”
Translation: pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.
“I know many successful black people and i can say with certainty the vast majority would agree with what ive said here.”
Translation: i’m not racist I have black friends. The sellout blacks will agree with me.
“most whites would put a hand of friendship and help to any black person that said i dont want the white mans tax dollars feeding me. I CAN FEED MYSELF. I KNOW I WOULD AND GUESS WHAT I HAVE AND I DO!!!”
translation: black ppl lend me your ear hear me it is your fault and you need to step up and ask the mighty white saviors to help you overcome the system we put into place.
“until the black man comes to a place where he takes responsibility for his kids and the black woman says no more children until i can support them the die is cast for the black community”
translation: Black men and women don’t take care of their kids, Look at them they are baby mommas and baby daddies.Forget the fact that white men are the original baby daddies.
“i am telling you that the color of your skin is not the problem. im sure i will be ripped apart and called every name under the sun but thats another point. instead of reacting with emotion why not react with some deep thought. maybe im right, or at the very least maybe im partly right.”
Translation: you are holding yourselves back we live in a post racial society, a black man is in office and I voted for him. Oh woe is me i’m going to be attacked for speak the whitewashed truth. listen to me inferior ppls take my opinion to heart and stop being overly sensitive and reacting with emotion think for once ppl.
know that the bitterness is holding you back. its done and over.”
Let me translate: get over it ur bitterness toward whites is what is keepin you down we aren’t
“most white people fully understand that because you are black that your gonna have some obstacles we dont. we also understand you live in a country where those obstacles can be overcome with determination.”
Translation: pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.
“I know many successful black people and i can say with certainty the vast majority would agree with what ive said here.”
Translation: i’m not racist I have black friends. The sellout blacks will agree with me.
“most whites would put a hand of friendship and help to any black person that said i dont want the white mans tax dollars feeding me. I CAN FEED MYSELF. I KNOW I WOULD AND GUESS WHAT I HAVE AND I DO!!!”
translation: black ppl lend me your ear hear me it is your fault and you need to step up and ask the mighty white saviors to help you overcome the system we put into place.
“until the black man comes to a place where he takes responsibility for his kids and the black woman says no more children until i can support them the die is cast for the black community”
translation: Black men and women don’t take care of their kids, Look at them they are baby mommas and baby daddies.Forget the fact that white men are the original baby daddies.
“i am telling you that the color of your skin is not the problem. im sure i will be ripped apart and called every name under the sun but thats another point. instead of reacting with emotion why not react with some deep thought. maybe im right, or at the very least maybe im partly right.”
Translation: you are holding yourselves back we live in a post racial society, a black man is in office and I voted for him. Oh woe is me i’m going to be attacked for speak the whitewashed truth. listen to me inferior ppls take my opinion to heart and stop being overly sensitive and reacting with emotion think for once ppl.
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mstoogood4yall on said:
Yeah I notice they do that too. They love seeing black ppl pointing out the flaws within our community so they can feel superior. We do need to talk about our issues, but its a shame that all they can do is agree with what we need to work on but they don’t want to address their part in it and work on their issues. This is why it is not working in this country because u have one group trying to repair ourselves and another group beating us down even more when we already know what issues we need to fix yet they still gotta add their 2 cents. Work on yourselves and we’ll work on ourselves stop trying to supervise us and tell us how to heal leave us alone and work on you. When there’s a post about our issues they are there applauding, when it’s a post about uplifting black ppl and offering solutions they are there calling it anti white and reverse racism. When it is a post about them *crickets*. They act like a spouse who cheated and is playing the blame game and telling the spouse they cheated on to get over it and that they should’ve done xyz and maybe they wouldn’t have cheated. smh
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Adeen on said:
Yup, that is exactly what he is saying. Like I said, he is using coded words to hide his racism just like a typical White AmeriKKKlan male does.
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crammasters 3 years ago
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ME: It’s obvious you know NOTHING about slavery, the Civil War, the years following the Civil War, the Civil Rights movement OR even modern day history or racism. In fact, after reading your posts, I can’t figure out why you’re discussing history, slavery, or racism at all.
This kind of ignorance – for me – is the main reason I avoid dialoguing with most whites about any subject that involves race. The level of arrogant ignorance, anti-historical and false statements, and the inability to draw rational conclusions is disturbing and a sheer waste of time.
If you want to dialogue about slavery and racism, READ and LEARN something about it FIRST. Slavery did not end because whites wanted “equality." In fact, Abraham Lincoln was totally opposed to racial equality and said the following:
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"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races....and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race..." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Bottom line, in my experience most whites have NO real interest in dealing honestly with racism or slavery, so dialogues like this usually go nowhere and wind up wasting everybody’s time. So, rather than waste mind, I’ll end my comment here…
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Adeen on said:
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ME: It’s obvious you know NOTHING about slavery, the Civil War, the years following the Civil War, the Civil Rights movement OR even modern day history or racism. In fact, after reading your posts, I can’t figure out why you’re discussing history, slavery, or racism at all.
This kind of ignorance – for me – is the main reason I avoid dialoguing with most whites about any subject that involves race. The level of arrogant ignorance, anti-historical and false statements, and the inability to draw rational conclusions is disturbing and a sheer waste of time.
If you want to dialogue about slavery and racism, READ and LEARN something about it FIRST. Slavery did not end because whites wanted “equality." In fact, Abraham Lincoln was totally opposed to racial equality and said the following:
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"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races....and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race..." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Bottom line, in my experience most whites have NO real interest in dealing honestly with racism or slavery, so dialogues like this usually go nowhere and wind up wasting everybody’s time. So, rather than waste mind, I’ll end my comment here…
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Adeen on said:
Yup, that is why Whites get upset when they hear about the history of their wicked ancestors. …Because they are just like their d____ ancestors only not as brutal or evil.
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diaryofanegress on said:
Emile
Every once in a while, whites say something that blow me out of the water. It’s like the heavens bring them here to prove to us, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are truly beyond help, beyond hope and beyond any inkling of huemanity.
For some reason, as I ascend to a higher level of consciousness, the Earth Mother is bring them right to my doorstep…almost desperate to prove me wrong. It’s like they are deathly afraid that their hold over us is slipping.
Their fear is palpable to me now and I can see, literally see, this overweight white man with a bulging belly typing furiously at his keyboard.
Our comments are driving him mad as he realizes that “we’re onto them.” Karma has given me great gifts. I’m very grateful to be here now in this time period of my life where my confusion is slowly being lifted.
But…in the grand scheme of life, Demons can feel their opponents next move. That’s why they’re almost insanely attracted to me. It’s an obsession for them now. As I move away from my emotions, they feed on this, and I gain greater control, it’s amusing how * they * are the ones that are losing their ability to maintain their stoic countenance.
Every once in a while, whites say something that blow me out of the water. It’s like the heavens bring them here to prove to us, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are truly beyond help, beyond hope and beyond any inkling of huemanity.
For some reason, as I ascend to a higher level of consciousness, the Earth Mother is bring them right to my doorstep…almost desperate to prove me wrong. It’s like they are deathly afraid that their hold over us is slipping.
Their fear is palpable to me now and I can see, literally see, this overweight white man with a bulging belly typing furiously at his keyboard.
Our comments are driving him mad as he realizes that “we’re onto them.” Karma has given me great gifts. I’m very grateful to be here now in this time period of my life where my confusion is slowly being lifted.
But…in the grand scheme of life, Demons can feel their opponents next move. That’s why they’re almost insanely attracted to me. It’s an obsession for them now. As I move away from my emotions, they feed on this, and I gain greater control, it’s amusing how * they * are the ones that are losing their ability to maintain their stoic countenance.
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C on said:
What you say is true, I’ve been there and they are now tapping into the Lwa whilst opening up churchs like rashes in the Caribbean. The main Culprits are the mormons. You can no longer find Obeah Men or Shango Priestesses like of old in many islands like Trinidad. What Umoja say is true you can’t give out too much in public, if at all. Neanderthals love coming on to sites like these to get info.
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Umoja on said:
They know that truth about them has made changes in peoples lives and the most powerful forum for truth to date has been Youtube and google. This is why the govt took over google and then google took over Youtube. Fact!
Yes the attack is concerted on all fronts. But as we speak we are not only shaming the devil. We are also sending up a WITNESS into the ethers that are bearing witnesses of truth and condemnation of our enemies in the court of the highest realms. Do not think these beasts will get away with any of this. As long as we stand firm, tall, and keep blasting the truth and keep track of every injustice we send an account that is being recorded in the spirit realm where these KKKreature’s reality is first being destroyed and decomposed. We will soon see the physical effects of the total annihilation of THEIR systems, “civil” LIEzation, and paradigm. And all the black devils who lend their carbonated bodies to help them will be sucked into that coming hell too.
We are going to see many things never seen before happening. Many of which will seem like fantasy. Stand firm in uprightness and truth and there is nothing to fear. These beasts are going to be dealt with by higher forces that can and will clean up this mess effectively.
(O’k, I’m done)
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emile on said:
Yes the attack is concerted on all fronts. But as we speak we are not only shaming the devil. We are also sending up a WITNESS into the ethers that are bearing witnesses of truth and condemnation of our enemies in the court of the highest realms. Do not think these beasts will get away with any of this. As long as we stand firm, tall, and keep blasting the truth and keep track of every injustice we send an account that is being recorded in the spirit realm where these KKKreature’s reality is first being destroyed and decomposed. We will soon see the physical effects of the total annihilation of THEIR systems, “civil” LIEzation, and paradigm. And all the black devils who lend their carbonated bodies to help them will be sucked into that coming hell too.
We are going to see many things never seen before happening. Many of which will seem like fantasy. Stand firm in uprightness and truth and there is nothing to fear. These beasts are going to be dealt with by higher forces that can and will clean up this mess effectively.
(O’k, I’m done)
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emile on said:
Spirituality, in a good sense, is the best defense against any demons that are undoubtedly among us. That is why you can “pick up a vibe”, positive or negative, from certain individuals, even as passers-by. As Black people, it has been my conclusion that our whole comprehension of the need for positive, reaffirming spirituality has to be relearned and voided of any and every type of man-made religion (control and manipulation). After all, spirituality existed way before the madness of religion. Ever since “their” encounter with such, African spiritualism has been portrayed and characterized in the most negative light as much as possible for centuries thereafter, simply for one reason: to keep us from the truth. Truth, when revealed, is our ultimate source of empowerment. Remember that truth is light; light exposes and amplifies power exponentially; and light itself is energy. Even Voudon (more commonly called voodoo) has been perverted and infiltrated to look as “bad” for us. Its origins are in some ways similar to the Dogon Tribe, as are all African spiritualism, which gives honor, respect and reference to the Higher Power that ultimately controls the Universe, our existence and those things we have yet to become exposed (The Creator).
There is definitely a lot we have to relearn about ourselves, our “true” Spirituality and the world in which we now live.
There is definitely a lot we have to relearn about ourselves, our “true” Spirituality and the world in which we now live.
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TrojanPam says:
@ Kushite
yes, black people are thrilled when a white person says ANYTHING that sounds halfway correct (and it usually is only half-way) or gives us ANY kind of validation or recognition
(something that ALL white anti-racists use to their great sexual and financial advantage!)
All they have to do is say, “oh yes, you black people are being mistreated!” and we JUMP out of our seats with joy as a good white person finally acknowledges our humanity!
I believe this is true because we have been so greatly victimized by white people for such a long period of time
that ANY sign (OR pretense) of friendliness or kindness or understanding or compassion is a welcome RELIEF, like,
“whew! I’m so RELIEVED this white person is not beating me up like all the other white people do!”
It’s like a person who has been starved for so long and finally gets a morsel of food
he or she is SO grateful they don’t care where the food comes from (or if its rotten or spoiled)
we have been STARVED for kindness for so long that ANY white person who shows kindness or says a friendly word is like a morsel of food to a starving person
and at that point, they can INSULT us, LIE to us, SEX us, cheat us, marry us and divorce us, taking ALL our hard-earned millions, and make us turn against each other, betray each other, and reject each other
just to get another MORSEL of food (kindness) and validation from a white person
What we’re looking at is the need for WHITE VALIDATION and a white person doesn’t have to do very much to get MAXIMUM CREDIT and PRAISE.
Our EXAGGERATED reaction to a white kindness or a friendly word SPEAKS VOLUMES
i think it says that DEEP DOWN we know how absolutely awful and wicked white people have been toward us
so much so that a white person who DOESN’T behave in that fashion makes us feel we must CHERISH the moment!
that says to me, again, that we KNOW what we pretend to NOT TO KNOW
otherwise we would take a white kindness in STRIDE instead of treating it like something to celebrate, or like a RARE JEWEL
white people KNOW this, that is why they have so much fun playing with us and manipulating us and pretending to be kind while making fun of us and sexing us and then discarding us and just all around acting like a cat playing with a confused mouse
that is the height of CRUELTY and of a CRUEL, inhumane nature…
And black people?
Oh yes….
we know deep down exactly know who we are dealing with…and how dangerous and cruel they can be
Our staying in denial of the FACTS AND pretending this is NOT true serves as a “soothing lotion” on our wounded souls
and that is what you’re hearing in that video
dozens of black people applying that “soothing lotion” on a lifetime of white supremacy sores
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Ms. J says:
But I believe that most of our oppression is psychological. As long as White people have us internalizing the idea that we need to depend on them for everything – education, housing, employment – we’re going to be crushed when they take it away. They’re doing it little by little until they go back to the “Good ‘ole days”.
Now I realize why White folks were saying, “Let’s take America back!”, immediately after President Obama entered office. Although people like Tim Wise would have you believing that they are delusional for saying such things, I realized that they were just using code words to signal the gloves coming off.
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TrojanPam says:
@ Rose
In the event of a ‘purge,’ the biggest weapon black people will have — in my opinion — is each other.
Unfortunately, due to integration, extreme white identification, and sexing, marrying and breeding with whites (and other non-blacks) — our DISUNITY has compounded our SLAVE TRAUMA
meaning we have NEVER been allowed to heal our minds, hearts, relationships and families — and in FACT have been WARRED upon by the white supremacy system for OVER 500 years.
The MAIN problem among black people as I see it is NOT a lack of safe houses, or bunkers
IT IS ANTI-BLACKNESS where black people VIEW each other through CONDEMNING ‘WHITE EYES’
We cannot be ‘safe’ when we don’t like or trust each other. Black people’s ONLY ALLIES ARE EACH OTHER — and it’s TIME we stop looking for VALIDATION in the arms of non-blacks — and find a way to VALIDATE OURSELVES AND EACH OTHER.
We can’t have “safe houses” within UNSAFE black communities. We can’t have strong and safe black communities without BLACK UNITY — and even then the white supremacists will INTRODUCE DRUGS and VIOLENCE but–
we stand a BETTER CHANCE IF WE CAN STAND TOGETHER.
because the REALITY is, for the white supremacists to destroy us, they NEED OUR COOPERATION.
Black unity requires STRONG AND UNITED black males and females COMING TOGETHER out of a mutual understanding — that we have been DAMAGED — and AGREEING that it is NOT ‘her’ or ‘his’ fault that we are damaged because NO BLACK PERSON is in charge in a white supremacy system.
WE MUST STOP BLAMING EACH OTHER for what white people have done to BOTH OF US
AND a necessary beginning is to STOP HAVING SEX WITH THE (WHITE) PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT OUR OPPRESSION and who WHISPER IN OUR EAR, “psst, black man or black woman, you can’t trust that black woman or black man.”
It is tragic that black people want to be liberated from racism, but can’t understand that WE CANNOT HAVE SEX WITH WHITE PEOPLE AND STILL ACCOMPLISH THAT.
Liberation requires REGAINING OUR SELF-RESPECT AND A LOVE AND RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER
that’s why we did the book, “Black Love Is A Revolutionary Act‘ to explain what happened to the black male and female relationship AND the black family during 400 years of chattel slavery
unfortunately, most black people — in my experience — avoid thinking about slavery and racism on a serious level AND so, we cannot FIX what ails us
as far as your question, I don’t have any quick answers but I would say a HUGE start would be to start educating ourselves about the system of white supremacy, to work harder to treat other black people correctly, and to work on our OWN anti-blackness.
white people don’t like each other — that much is obvious — but they understand the POWER of UNITY. They will support and take up for their worst white enemy when it comes to a conflict between that white person and a non-white person
because they understand that they don’t have to like ALL white people, but that their SAFETY AND SECURITY LIES IN WHITE UNITY. and that UNITY exists even within a white person who lays down every night with a black male or female — believe that.
I’m not blaming us for our mental illness and self-hatred issues, that was something that was DONE to us but until we change the way we THINK, TALK AND ACT, no house will be a ‘safe house’
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TrojanPam says:
@ Kushite Prince
there is a DIRECT LINK between the type of Christianity that white slave-owners taught the slaves AND the continued ACCEPTANCE of white domination by black people today.
A white God and a white Jesus ROOTED in a black mind is a TRAGEDY waiting to happen
And many black people are JUST as offended when you criticize a “well-meaning” white person as they are if you criticized (white) God or Jesus
How can there NOT be a LINK between the two?
and since I have already posted many times on this thread about this, I will cut my response short
What I am clear about is this:
WE WILL NEVER AWAKEN AS LONG AS WE TAKE IN THE CONSTANT PROPAGANDA OF THEIR MEDIA MACHINE (running 24/7 x365). WE WILL NEVER BE FREE AS LONG AS WE ENGAGE IN ANTI-SEXUAL BEHAVIOR WITH THEM OR AMONG OURSELVES. WE WILL NEVER AWAKEN IF WE DON’T RELEASE FROM OUR PSYCHES THEIR SUBJUGATION AND DEATH WISH FOR US- THE BEAUTIFUL ONES- THE “ORIGINALS.”
These things hold a malicious intent towards us that most of us cannot imagine. And we in turn “love” them. Using the demonic entities definition of “love” we will never come out of the **it if we do not become sane enough to hate them for who they really are. Not a rabid, insane, diffuse hatred, but a contained, controlled, sane and mature focused hatred that any normal person should have for anything that is/was bent on you, your children, your Ancestors and your world’s destruction in whatever form the psychopathic demonic entities dictate. This is critical! They must be stopped …