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Shawn Torry9 hours ago

Okay, consider this scenario, say I am Treyvon and I am walking home. I notice someone following me. I start to run (which is verified on 911 recording), the follower gives chase. I think that I lost him, but then he appears again. I ask, "why are you following me?" The person replies, "what are you doing here?". This man does not have on a uniform that would indicate that he has some kind of legal authority. He makes a move of some kind towards me, and fearing for my own safety I hit him. We wrestle briefly, and he then shoots me.
Who had the right to feel threatened initially? I, Trayvon did. Who had the right to defend himself? I, Trayvon did. Who was told by the 911 dispather not to follow me? Zimmerman was. Who provoked the entire chain of events? Zimmerman. Who was not armed and is now in a grave? I, Trayvon am.
Where is the justice?
I do not care how many Black friends Zimmerman had. He stalked and murdered Trayvon.

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ACS20008 hours agoin reply to Shawn Torry

you took the words out of my head!! Well said! I think some info will be uncovered that will make this story far more disgusting about the law enforcement and the guapos who get a God-complex when they are carrying guns, ask any undercover cop who sign up for neighborhood watch to seek out drug deals in a luxury apartment community who believes only suspects have melanin color but say they are not racist because they have black friends... oh wait maybe you can't...

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Dandelion21 hours ago

“You’ve got all these people wanting to lynch the man and they don’t know the whole story. There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence.”
So it's not okay to judge Zimmerman based on what is now known, but it's okay to DEFEND him? I would respect this BOOT-LICKER more if he would hold his tongue until all the evidence is given. He is FOOLISH to believe that a RACIST will reveal their hate. Don't the KLAN wear disguises??? Please, I bet every last one of the WHITE RACISTS that come on this site has at least ONE BLACK PERSON believing they are a GOOD PERSON. SMH.

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Sagacity wrote:

As a black man I could never vote for the party that:
Supported slavery
Loathed abolitionists
Opposed the emancipation Proclamation
Undermined Lincoln’s war efforts
Opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments
Created black codes
Created the KKK
Created Jim Crow
Opposed anti-lynching legislation
Opposed Integration
Supported American apartheid
Believes in a paternalistic infantilizing welfare control system

Political parties change and they have over the last 150 years. Today's Republican Party is not the party of Lincoln any more than today's Democratic Party supports the KKK and opposes integration. Then was then and now is now. I have always questioned the practice of trying to live in the past.


-A Person

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BlackHeywood21 hours ago

Mr Oliver you are asking the public to afford the murderer George Zimmerman the benefit of doubt, which is something he did not afford Trayvon Martin. Thanks to the 911 tapes we know that Zimmerman stalked , approached then killed Trayvon Martin despite clearly being told NOT to pursue him.If he felt Trayvon was a threat then why did he exit his car and attack Trayvon. The 911 tapes speak for themselves and for Trayvon Martin to what happened that night.
Zimmerman may not be racist toward you because in his mind you are a "different kind" of Black man and I'm willingly to bet you had conversation with Zimmerman about the behavior and apparel of young Black men which also feeds into the warped mind of George Zimmerman. Your opinion of Zimmerman not being a racist is based on your experience with him, but his own words and actions proved him to be as racist as the White men who used lynched innocent Black men because they could. We expect someone like you to come out the woodwork and defend George Zimmerman despite what the tapes prove he said and did that night.

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Symone21 hours ago

So I'm supposed to believe this man is not a racist even though he
referred to Trayvon as a F--k--g C**n just because Zimmerman's one so
called Black friend claims he's not racist.I will not be misled by The
Devil's helper because any Black person that aide in trying to HUMANIZE
this MONSTER is someone I just will not even begin to listen to....
A dude that called the police station 46 times and each time subjects of
suspicion were ALL Black men and even one SEVEN year old is definitely
someone that seems RACIST to me.....

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Superhentendo21 hours ago

Who cares if he's racist,he's a murderer thats all that matters

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The41120 hours agoin reply to stevealex

THIS is an INSULT to the intelligence!!!!
It's an Insult because the Zimmerman Klan searched several days for a
token s________ to quell the flames as though we should believe him just
because he's Black versus Zimmerman's OWN WORDS he used on the 911 tape
and the type of ACTIONS HE DID.
It's an Insult... just because some white man treats one negro good,
doesn't mean they are NOT a racist. Many racists use manipulative
behaviors to gain what they want from others. It has happened
throughout history!!
It's an Insult... to give us some condescending BULL like this. Many see
these transparent schemes as clear as day!! As someone on another
post eloquently elaborated, many racists are NOT even able to comprehend
that they are racist.
It's an Insult that we have so many of these s______'s running around these days as imposter Blacks/African Americans.
The BEST THING Zimmerman can do is unwedge his morbidly obese self up
from out of his klan of protectors and come forth to justice!! He got
thousands of people continuously in prayer for justice and hundreds of
folks looking for him. So it's a matter of time!! He was a "man" when
he went hunting with his gun, so he bes' come forth as the cowardly
chicken he is before his bacon is cooked being the p___ he is.

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Rachel51 minutes ago

I work less than 2 miles away from where the crime took place and live less than 7 miles away. I have a teenage son who plays basketball, wears a hoodie and has friends in that complex as many of them go to the high school which is the only one in the district. After a game last year they all went back to the complex to play video game and hang out and swim with one of the team members. They were let off at the front gate and were walking towards the house when 2 men came towards them and asked them what they were doing in the neighborhood. By the way none of the men was George Zimmerman.
Being boys they wanted to know why and the men told them they were tresspassing and started to harrass them. They wanted to see their ID and the address where they were going. Luckily they kept on walking and had reached the house. The boy's father who is a Seminole County police officer came out and asked what was going on. One of the men told them they were walking and looking suspicious. The officer became enraged and told the men people don't have to explain themselves to anyone if they are only walking. He also told the men if they ever step to his son or anyone in his family in that way they would be picking up their teeth off the sidewalk. They apologized to the boys and quickly left. So this proves this is not normal behavior and these men only want to act macho. We have to get justice for this precious angel.

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Diamond Jonelle5 hours ago

This post is for Joe Oliver!
You have your facts all wrong…the 911 operator did not say to Zimmerman, "You don't have to do that." In fact, if you listen with unbiased listening skills you will hear the operator says at approximately one minute and 57 seconds into this audio recording, "We don't need you to do that." Your statement seem to try and lend that the 911 dispatcher left some area of vagueness of whether Zimmerman should pursue Martin or not, but that was clearly not the case. Listen for yourself via this link: http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk if you don’t believe me.
In the audio clip, Zimmerman also says, at the fifty-nine seconds point, "Now he's coming towards me". Then he goes on to say at one minute and four seconds in that "He has his hand in his waist band". I have to ponder, why didn't Zimmerman shoot then? Was he not threatened then that this young teen that was "On drugs or something" was going to pull out a gun and shoot him first? Was he not threatened by the young teen approaching him at this point? Was he not in fear for his life where he would ask the dispatcher, “I’m in fear for my life, what should I do?” or again when Zimmerman says to the 911 operator at one minute and twenty-three seconds into the recording, "he's coming to check me out." Why was he threatened only after the young man was walking away from him and heading toward the club house near the back entrance to the community? Why didn't he shout out to Trayvon, with the 911 dispatcher on the line to guide him, Hey, what are you doing? Or ask him, do you live around here? Or perhaps something simple like...Are you ok? You look a little disoriented...have you been attacked? Given that the very thing that supposedly had sparked Zimmerman to beef up his surveillance of the neighborhood was the recent rise of break-ins. This young teen could have been the victim of a robber and escaped. But Zimmerman didn't see him as a victim...he saw him as a perpetrator. Why do you think that is Oliver? I mean, you said that your "good friend" was not racist, he had never shown you any indication that he was right? So was Martin carrying a sack of goods he just had stolen from a home? Was he brandishing a weapon? Was he stumbling or doing the ‘crack head lean’? I'm curious Oliver, what did your "good friend" say to you about why he deemed Martin suspicious and why he felt he needed to pursue him? You did ask him didn't you? You two are such "good friends" right? You mean to tell me that you didn't want to know why your "good friend" felt threatened to the point where felt he needed to remove his gun from its holster, take off the safety, point it at this human being, and fire into his chest.
It's clear that you are bias because of your friendship with Zimmerman, but I think you need to reserve your comments, especially when trying to state the facts. A life was taken here, and your nonchalant attitude towards it, mimics Zimmerman's nonchalant attitude toward the taking of a human life. No matter how you want to point out that Zimmerman was shorter than Martin, or that Zimmerman is lighter in weight than the photos of him circulating portray him to be. Self-defense is NOT a truthful defense when Zimmerman was asked not to pursue Martin, yet he did. When Zimmerman lost contact with Martin, the threat was over, if it ever existed in the first place; yet he was content on obviously ignoring the 911 operator's instruction to not pursue because in the audio clip you clearly hear that Zimmerman is either running or quickly walking in search of Martin. The evidence of that is in the heavy breathing on Zimmerman’s part that continues seconds after he is asked told that law enforcement does not want him to pursue the teen. It is also evident that self-defense is not warranted at this point in the matter because Zimmerman says to the 911 operator, at approximately two minutes and eight seconds into the recording, "He ran," not, “He’s running towards me.”
I pray that you are subpoenaed for the trial, because I would like nothing more than to see the prosecutor tear you apart on the witness stand as you sit in alliance with a man, who may or may not be a racist, but who clearly has some mental and emotional issues that need addressing, and who clearly took a human life without justifiable cause.

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Kat Onenonly Zoll17 hours ago

This is just sickening. We really need to take a further look into who is protecting our cities and neighborhood. If we can't trust em who can we trust. As a child I was taught police were the safest people next to teachers n preachers to run to. Now days all three are the last on my list. Sick!

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BlackHeywood17 hours ago

Some folks will say and do anything to gain notoriety and get themselves in the news from ignorant claims that it was the Hoodie Trayvon was wearing that helped cause his death, to the middle aged Black man who claims Zimmerman isn't racist, although I'm willing to bet Mr Oliver own words fed into Zimmerman racist beliefs and actions to now a ignorant and possible racist officer and his equally ignorant wife making comments on a case they know nothing about. I hope this cop is terminated ,his own words make him unfit psychologically to be a Police Officer in America. These are sad people whose own inner demons and hatred has taken control of them and they cannot help but to reveal who they really are.

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The Separatist6 hours ago

I am never surprised about what people who are afflicted with the disease of racism will say. The hoodie is not the real issue here and deep down they know this. If the hoodie was actually the issue then would it have been suspicious for a 90 year old white woman to wear one? What about someone in a wheelchair or who walks with a cane? A 5 year old child perhaps? Or maybe some conjoined twins? IT DOES NOT MATTER! What matters is it was a young black man wearing that hoodie. They fear the black man not the clothes he was wearing. The disease of racism instills that fear and because they fear the black man they automatically perceive him as a threat and stereotype and profile him as suspicious. It doesn’t matter if he was wearing a suit and tie, the outcome would have been the same. Trayvon Martin was profiled, stalked, chased, attacked and then killed just for being an African-American. This is what matters, this is the only thing that matters.

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AdrenalineKrush16 hours ago

He said everything but drop the N-bomb. Black folks betta come to grip with reality. Racism is not finished. And your social class doesn't exempt you from it.

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Mindy10 hours ago

Who cares if he is a racist or not? He shot an unarmed boy. And sir the "evidence" won't show that he is innocent. You know why? BECAUSE THERE IS NONE!!!! The police didn't collect any!!!! You have to be kidding me..."goon"???????? You know like Doctor Phil says "Common sense just ain't common anymore"!!!!

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Justsayin'5 hours ago

Sounds like Joe Oliver is another sellout who could care less about if a black youth is killed. He has apparently "made it" and the rest of us hostile n--___ need to pipe down before the "good" black people such as himself get labeled as other than good. I'll bet a million his a_____ is married to a white woman. Definitely what we don't need, his kind is the worst kind of black person. I'll also bet he is a Republican who opposes everything President Obama does just to impress his white friends, colleagues, wife, etc.

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Joe Smith19 hours ago

All Trayvon wanted to do was get home before a stranger man following him caught up. Zimmerman wanted to detain Trayvon or stop him from getting to the house until the police arrived because quote... "THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY!!!!". (Who are they? Innocent kids walking?)

TRAYVON WASN'T THEM!!!!!!! HE WAS INNOCENT AND HAD A HOME IN THAT GATED COMMUNITY AS WELL.

In the 911 tapes you can hear Zimmy saying "he's checking me out" and then you hear Zimmy get out of the car and start running and out of breath as the 911 dispatcher says "are you following him? we don't need you to do that police are on their way."

The kid didn't chase him and if he told the police that Trayvon did chase him then he must know that he did something wrong!!! WHY LIE IF YOU DID NOTHING WRONG???

Zimmy told his dad that same lie and his dad repeated it to reporters. THEY HAD TO CHANGE HIS DEFENSE AFTER THE 911 TAPES CAME OUT OF HIM ADMITTED HE WAS CHASING TRAYVON!! That is why his lawyer said "Stand Your Ground" doesn't apply!!

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mr_rightnowww20 hours ago

bringing forward a "black friend" to defend zimmerman is like bringing forward a female friend to defend ted bundy : "hey, i'm a woman and i knew ted and he never raped and strangled me."

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BlackHeywood11 hours ago

This administration must be FORCED to act when it comes to Black folks. This case proves it, the public outcry has given President Obama food for thought. Had the marches, petitions and demands were not as loud or publicized as they became the Dept of Justice would not have acted. But someone pulled President Obama and Eric Holder coattails and reminded them that is an election year and although Blacks have been economically destroyed, the President will garner some support if his Dept of Justice investigate this case. They are late in acting, but better late than never. I'm sure Zimmerman will be charged with some Federal charges.
Lesson to Black folks if we want this President to act in our behalf we must put pressure on him . Send e-mails, faxes and call the WH to voice your concerns. Remember Obama only helps those he wants to win over and impress, if he thinks he's loosing Black support, he'll take his thumbs out and do something. His nightmare would be the lost of Black support, that's why the DOJ is acting now.

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Dandelion16 hours ago

Thank you, Justice Department. Now just live up to your name, and bring the JUSTICE that the Martin family deserves.

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C. Jones6 hours ago

THIS IS EVEN MORE DISTURBING AS DETAILS OF THE TRAYVON MARTIN'S KILLING CONTINUE TO SURFACE BY THE HOUR:
Just moments before Trayvon was shot and killed, he was on his cellphone talking with a 16-year-old girl. The girl is now speaking out about the last, horrifying moments of Martin's life.
"He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," the girl told ABC News. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run."
Trayvon eventually did run.

"Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for?' and the man said,
'What are you doing here?' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and
somebody pushed Trayvon because the headset just fell. I called him
again and he didn't answer the phone."
The line went dead, according to the girl's account.
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KhalidX29 minutes ago

Christopher
Columbus and the Afrikan Holocaust, Slavery and the rise of European
Capitalism.
Author:
Dr. John Henrik Clarke
Read black people
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KhalidX30 minutes ago

Black Codes was a name given to laws passed by southern
governments established during the presidency of Andrew Johnson. These laws
imposed severe restrictions on freed slaves such as prohibiting their right to
vote, forbidding them to sit on juries, limiting their right to testify against
white men, carrying weapons in public places and working in certain
occupations.

After the American Civil War the Radical Republicans
advocated the passing of the Civil Rights Bill, legislation that was designed
to protect freed slaves from Southern Black Codes (laws that placed severe
restrictions on freed slaves such as prohibiting their right to vote,
forbidding them to sit on juries, limiting their right to testify against white
men, carrying weapons in public places and working in certain occupations).

In April 1866, President Andrew Johnson vetoed the Civil
Rights Bill. Johnson told Thomas C. Fletcher, the governor of Missouri:
"This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President,
it shall be a government for white men." His views on racial equality was
clearly defined in a letter to Benjamin B. French, the commissioner of public
buildings: "Everyone would, and must admit, that the white race was
superior to the black, and that while we ought to do our best to bring them up
to our present level, that, in doing so, we should, at the same time raise our
own intellectual status so that the relative position of the two races would be
the same."

Radical Republicans repassed the Civil Rights Bill and were
also able to get the Reconstruction Acts passed in 1867 and 1868. Despite these
acts, white control over Southern state governments was gradually restored when
organizations such as the Ku Kux Klan were able to frighten blacks from voting
in elections.   

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Symone1 hour ago

When it comes to any given race crime comes from within and Black people are not shooting Whites everyday so take that garbage rhetoric back to the next KLAN meeting.
The problem you have is the fact that this group is they actually standing up to racists like Zimmerman and you because Zimmerman never had any right to approach Trayvon and he is the one with the history of reporting Black males and he even once reported a SEVEN YEAR OLD KID as suspicious.
Racism is not an AGENDA because RACISM has always been REAL every since Whites came here killing people that were here first. RACISM has been REAL every since Whites brought Africans to America and ENSLAVED them for 400 plus years so please take your RACIST AGENDA elsewhere.....

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KhalidX31 minutes ago

Africans sold their own people as
slaves” is a stock argument White Americans
use when the subject of slavery comes up.
First, simply as an argument of
fact it fails:
Africa was not a country. Africans were not selling “their own”, they were
selling their enemies, just as the Greeks and Romans once did. Africa,
then as now, was made up of different countries. They were no more selling
“their own” than, say, “Europeans” were killing “their own” during the
Holocaust.
And it overlooks a few other
things:
Most African countries did not sell slaves and
some even fought against it.
But because Europeans back then could control the supply of guns there was
little Africans could do to stop it. The Transatlantic slave trade was on a much greater
scale than anything the Africans or
anyone else ever did in the history of slavery. Countries were destroyed
and millions died. Over 12 million were sold in less than 400 years,
something so huge that it changed the genetic map of the world. The Transatlantic slave trade was racist. The African slave trade, for all of its other ills,
was not that. Neither was the Greek and Roman slave trade. So slavery in
places like Haiti, Barbados and America was much more cruel.

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courtneyR20 minutes ago

No they are not trash.Nor was my grandfather JC, daddy,Richard ,my brother RIchard Jr, and every other black man I know.I tell you, this war between black people ,men and women has to stop.As long as we keep blaming each other and not picking each other up and encouraging one another, looking out for each other,im afraid that, the world will never listen and continue the unfairness ,the senseless murders, the jumping to conclusions,stereotyping and labeling.
The word is indeed watching George the MURDERER Zimmerman.Im so proud of us that are standing up for this beautiful young man.TRAYVON MARTIN..What a disgrace and absolute OUTRAGE.Its time for black men to look out for one another. You are being hunted , one way or another.Their isn't any room for fighting each other.Take the fight were it belongs.I PRAY FOR ALL OF THESE YOUNG BLACK MEN,FOR THEIR SAFETY AND FOR THEIR LIVES.AS YOU CAN SEE, TRAYVON COULD OF BEEN ANY ON OF OUR MALE FAMILY MEMBERS AND OR FRIENDS.TEACHING YOUNG MEN HOW TO PROTECT THEMSELVES IS WAY OVERDUE.Bless this young man and his family and friends.Bless us all because this kind of thing sadly isnt going away.

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2428 wrote:
I think the reason Obama and other black celebs refuse to talk about race issues because they don't want to p____ off their white fans. Since white people seem to think that North America is an anti-racist utopia where every is happy and gets along, they will get angry at anyone who accuses something like this of being racist. In fact, they will call you the racist if you decided to call them out on their racism. It's sad that this is the group of people that has power...

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isee wrote:
...puts on protective gloves, just to type to this "person"...

.....can you hear the crickets....
These people really do think they did the world some good.

unbelievable, "it" seriously thinks it BENEFITED Japan, after bombing it, removing it's testicles, and has been white-power's slave ever since.

This person is beyond help.

JAPAN??????? Dropping a nuclear bomb is UN=UNPRECEDENTED!!!

YOU @anonymous, are why THE WORLD despises your ilk.

The cruelest mass murder of all time, after the people gave up, and you seriously think they BENEFIT from you.

I hope this is not a white person, who could be this stupid?
I hope you are just a joker from another race, trying to make whites look bad.... there is just NO WAY you could be this stupid.

"Israel - whites as original natives"
This confirms that the "Idiocy" disease has completely took over your brains, which a white person is AT LEAST %4 Neanderthal, BY YOUR OWN SCIENTISTS admission. No wonder you are able to say such ridiculous folly.

....just a hint though.... don't tell anybody, but this is the planet of the SUN. White people, some of which I like and have friendships with, ARE NATIVE NOWHERE ON THIS PLANET.

This is the "Planet of the SUN".... if you somehow missed that during your "White is right" indoctrination.

I guess they

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Truthorator says:

March 24, 2012 at 2:52 pm

SAY WHAT YOU LIKE. I AM JUST CALLING IT AS I SEE IT. KIRT NIMMOS INSULTING ARTICLE WAS RACE BAITING FOR SURE. THE REASON I AM PUTTING THE TIME IN IS BECAUSE I AM F______ PISSED, WITH THE BULL____ I AM SEEING AND SICK OF THE GOD D____ ABUSE OF BLACK MEN.
I AM A WELL EDUCATED ARTICULATE WELL DRESSED GUY BUT IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE TO THE WOMEN I SEE CLUTCHING THERE BAGS AND THE MEN WHO LOOK ON WANTING TO CHALLENGE ME AT EVERY TURN. I AM F____ SICK OF THE HIDDEN RACISM IN THE HEARTS SO MANY WHITES. DIVISION IS NOT MY GAME. DIVISION IS THE GAME. DIVIDING THE SOCIETY SO THAT BLACKS CAN NEVER PROSPER, LIVE FREELY OR HAVE PEACE.
IF AM F_______ SICK OF THE FACT THAT THIS STUFF STILL EXISTS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT I AM SICK OF THE WAY WHITES ARE TREATING BLACK PEOPLE THEN YOU CAN F___ THE H___ OFF. YOU JUST LOVE IT WHEN WE SHUT UP AND LET THE COVERT RACISM THAT HAS REPLACED THE OVERT RACISM OF THE PAST GO UNMENTIONED.
WELL ______AND EVERY G_______ RACIST IN THE LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT THAT PRETENDS IT IS FOR FREEDOM AND JUSTICE BUT DOES NOT CARE A D___ ABOUT JUSTICE FOR TRAYVON AND THE MILLIONS OF BLACK MAKES WHO LIVES ARE BEING BLIGHTED BY THE EVIL F_______ RACISM OF WHITES, THROUGHOUT THIS F______ GOD FORESAKEN WORLD.

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Shannon says:

March 24, 2012 at 2:15 pm

When I hear the 911 call of Trayvon screaming for help and screaming for his life my heart goes out to his family.
That 911 call is proof positive that Trayvon was the victim of cold blooded murder.
Alex, you should consider that the next time you decide to restate the “police report” of how Zimmerman was on the ground and Trayvon was on top of him.
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AussiPino wrote:

If you really believe this then why are you targeting Whites? I have experienced racism myself but I see things in perspective. You do keep on targeting Whites and its obvious you have issues with them.

Its obvious I have issues with white TRASH. Yes, I have issues with "white people" because their "whiteness" does not mean the same thing to me as it does to them. It seems to be associated with very specific behaviors and patterns which are continued throughout their history. It is a result of having a collection of recessive traits which, if left to nature, would be naturally eliminated from the gene pool. After seeing how those people with those traits have behaved for the past 2000 years, it is easy to see why they are obsolete and are recessive.

How do you know if I'm not above the lower-middle class? Making assumptions again.

Because you lack formal education and you are Filipino. If you are female, you might have married into money. But if not, I do not see how you could be anything less than what I have assumed. However, if your situation is different, then good for you.

Of course there are African-Americans who live in the suburbs but there is still a large number living in ghettos.

More are living in suburbs than in ghettos. So why not just say that? Instead of admitting that whites are the majority of all welfare recipients, you would rather say that blacks "as a whole" have a "higher percentage" of welfare "for their race". RIDICULOUS. Its very simple.

1 - Gather all welfare recipients.
2 - Look at the group
3 - 70 out of every 100 will be white.

You are a braggart. You think that material wealth is everything but that is not always the case. A small number of Black billionaires does nothing to help those who are below the poverty line.

You have to look at why people are below the poverty line. Everything you say about blacks tries to highlight the lowest end of the spectrum. The reason for that is because you yourself exist on that same lower end of the spectrum. This is the nature of racists. You are a particularly hopeless case because you are either unaware of your foolhardiness, or you are a white guy pretending to be Filipino. Either way, you are disingenuous.

They made their billions in America but look at those in Africa.

The richest black person in the world is an African, worth 11.5 Billion dollars. Again, WHY look at Africa? I am not African, you are not African. You have questions to answer about white welfare in AMERICA, or the lack of accomplishments of Filipinos worldwide. Africa's accomplishments still far overshadow anything Filipinos have done, whatever that is.

Stick to topic.

What are your thoughts about the huge white welfare problem and how would you help them to get off of it? I don't need to hear any more of your views about the blacks. You have already talked about that, and now you are repeating yourself.

-Reality Speaks

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@stark: "You didn't seriously just ask that, right?"

Yes, I did. What do you think is racist about this website? The fact that we expose white crimes, stupidity, and perversions? These stories are true. Not made up like much of the garbage you can read on those hate sites mentioned above.

-A Person

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alternativechick3 months ago

NICE ARTICLE REGARDING SELF IMAGE WOULD LOVE TO READ ONE ON THE ON-GOING IDENITY CRISIS AMONG OUR RACE. GETTING TIRED OF SOME PEOPLE DISCLAMING THEIR HERITAGE AND NOT WANTING TO BE ASSOCIATED OR BE IDENTIFIED AS BLACK. KIND OF DISTURBING THAT OTHER RACES EMBRACE AND WANT TO LEARN ABOUT OUR CULTURE MORE THAN SOME OF US DO
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jazzwatch3 months ago

ANd when you find out those FLAWS of those you emulate or TRY to be, you're better off being YOURSELF, and you probaly BETTER than those around you and those you idolize....

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http://hellobeautiful.com/lifestyle/simone/be-yourself-everyone-else-is-taken/

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Funding for universal hhealth care and education is part of the common good, and western European countries like France, Germany, Denmark and Sweden are way ahead of us in these areas. They and their people are to be commended in that area. Usually, not even European conservatives oppose these progressive reforms. They are part of the democratic tradition. American conservatism tends to block progress. 

-Savant

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If this wasn't Sherri's character then I could understand the criticism but she's always acted this way. She's not going to win the show anyways and those who have followed DWTS know it's going to be hard for a black woman to win it. When white female contestants are loud and talk back to their dance instructors nobody has anything to say. However, when Sherri acts like she's always has been all of the sudden she's supposed to represent every black woman in the world. Wendy needs to have several seats, everything about her is disgusting to me.

-TennisKing
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Apparently, Zimmerman's propensity toward violence and aggression is well known in his community. Now once thing my Uncle Oscar reportedly said to my mother: "If one of us, who has a record of assaulting a police officer, had shot a WHITE CHILD, we know what would have happened to him by now. He'd be lucky if all they did was arrest him. Well, if Trayvon was MY SON, Zimmerman would ALREADY be dead.md I wouldn't care if they hanged me!" I'm really calling upon not only leaders and activists with the Black community, but men and women of good will in all communities, to combat this injustice by whatever peaceful and/or legal means availabld. Otherwise, other means or reaponse may be sought which are not so civil. Zimmerman's action, if unpunished, not only does an injustice to black communities, dishonors America as a whole, and imperils justice for everyone. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

-Savant

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Ausarian_Prince2 hours agoin reply to 3whiteman3

The hatian army defeated Napolean to win their independence, there haven't really been any wars between blacks and whites since then. Not that I know of anyway.

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I know too many REAL socialists to buy the absurd claim that Obama is a socialist. And if you actually think that even Romney is a leftist, you must be from another planet. I take you don't know any REAL leftists. Romneym, a plutocrat, is a rightist. Would you like me to forward some literature to you so that you can familiarize yourself with what socialists really think. I don't mean to be insulting, but the claim that Obama is a socialist would make actual socialists fall out of their seats cracking up with laughter. It's almost like that the Pope is Protestant, or that the apostle Paul was a deist.

-Savant

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Truthorator says:

March 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm

THE CRIME RATE AND THE CRIMINALIZATION OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY ARE HIGHLY ORCHESTRATED, TO FEED THE PRISON ENSLAVEMENT SYSTEM. PLUS THE WAR ON DRUGS WAS SET UP TO DO THE SAME. BLACKS DO NOT PRODUCE HEROINE OR COCAINE AND WEED IS NOT EVEN A REAL DRUG. YET THE GOVERNMENT SETS IT ALL UP TO DESTROY THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND PROFIT FROM EVERY ASPECT. PUTTING MILLIONS IN OF BLACKS JAIL FOR POSSESSING WEED WHILE WHITES GO FREE FOR USING COCAINE NATIONWIDE.
INFESTING A PEOPLE WITH DRUGS WAS USED BY THE BRITISH TO DESTROY THE CHINESE. ITS AN OLD TRICK. THE POINT IS THAT WHITES HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN RATHER THAN MEND THE PROBLEM AND WOULD RATHER BLAME AND FURTHER CRIMINALIZE BLACKS THAN FACE UP THE THE FACTS OF THE DESTRUCTIVE ROLE THAT THEY PLAY. ITS A VISCOUS SPIRAL THAT CAN ONLY BE FIXED WHEN WHITES STEP FORWARD WITH A DETERMINATION THE END THEIR ROLE IN THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA.
NO MATTER HOW HARD RESPONSIBLE BLACK PEOPLE TRY, TO FIX THE PROBLEMS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY THEY CANNOT SUCCEED, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY POPULATION PROFITS SO MUCH AND IS SO IN DENIAL ABOUT ITS ROLE.


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blackbizman20085 hours agoin reply to 2Queens11434

I feel ya, and I'm no Al Sharpton fan in general, but I watched Trayvon's father and family lawyer on Sharpton's show yesterday and Sharpton was more responsible
with this approach than he has been in the past. And he gave the family a national platform to speak on whatever they wanted to speak on. In this matter, so far, Sharpton has done the family a service. Of course, he can't avoid but draw more attention to his network and show because that's automatic. But I feel ya.

NGOs, Politics, and More

what about soros?

Cynical Negro - 03/19/2012 - 08:59

As the saying goes: "Don't shoot the messenger."
http://actforamerica.wordpress.com/2011/10/16/why-u-s-military-in-uganda-soros-fingerprints-are-all-over-it/
A 2008 national oil and gas policy, proposed with aid from a Soros-funded group, was supposed to be a general road map for the handling and use of the oil. However, the policy’s recommendations have been largely ignored, with critics accusing Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni of corruption and of tightening his grip on the African country’s emerging oil sector.
Soros himself has been closely tied to oil and other interests in Uganda.
In 2008, the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute brought together stakeholders from Uganda and other East African countries to discuss critical governance issues, including the formation of what became Uganda’s national oil and gas policy.
Also in 2008, the Africa Institute for Energy Governance, a grantee of the Soros-funded Revenue Watch, helped established the Publish What You Pay Coalition of Uganda, or PWYP, which was purportedly launched to coordinate and streamline the efforts of the government in promoting transparency and accountability in the oil sector.
Also, a steering committee was formed for PWYP Uganda to develop an agenda for implementing the oil advocacy initiatives and a constitution to guide PWYP’s oil work.
PWYP has since 2006 hosted a number of training workshops in Uganda purportedly to promote contract transparency in Uganda’s oil sector.
PWYP is directly funded by Soros’ Open Society as well as the the Soros-funded Revenue Watch Institute. PWYP international is actually hosted by the Open Society Foundation in London.
The billionaire’s Open Society Institute, meanwhile, runs numerous offices in Uganda. It maintains a country manager in Uganda, as well as the Open Society Initiative for East Africa, which supports work in Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda.
The Open Society Institute runs a Ugandan Youth Action Fund, which states its mission is to “identify, inspire, and support small groups of dedicated young people who can mobilize and influence large numbers of their peers to promote open society ideals.”
Soros group: Send military advisors to Uganda
In April 2010 Soros’ International Crisis Group, or ICG, released a report sent to the White House and key lawmakers advising the U.S. military run special operations in Uganda to seek Kony’s capture:
http://www.crisisgroup.org/en/regions/africa/horn-of-africa/uganda/157-lra-a-regional-strategy-beyond-killing-kony.aspx
The report states, “To the U.S. government: Deploy a team to the theatre of operations to run an intelligence platform that centralizes all operational information from the Ugandan and other armies, as well as the U.N. and civilian networks, and provides analysis to the Ugandans to better target military operations.”
Since 2008 the U.S. has been providing financial aid in the form of military equipment to Uganda and the other regional countries to fight Kony’s LRA, but Obama’s new deployment escalates the direct U.S. involvement.
Soros sits in the ICG’s executive board along with Samuel Berger, Bill Clinton’s former national security advisor; George J. Mitchell, former U.S. Senate Majority Leader who served as a Mideast envoy to both Obama and President Bush; and Javier Solana, a socialist activist who is NATO’s former secretary-general as well as the former foreign affairs minister of Spain.
Jimmy Carter’s national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is the ICG’s senior advisor.
The ICG’s president emeritus is Gareth Evans, who, together with activist Ramesh Thakur, is the original founder of the Responsibility to Protect doctrine, with the duo even coining the term “responsibility to protect.”
Both Evans and Thakur serve as advisory board members of the Global Center for the Responsibility to Protect, the main group pushing the doctrine.
As WND first exposed, Soros is a primary funder and key proponent of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect:
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/278685/
Soros’ Open Society is one of only three nongovernmental funders of the Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect. Government sponsors include Australia, Belgium, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, Rwanda and the U.K.

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More evidence Kony 2012 is

beverly - 03/18/2012 - 21:04

More evidence Kony 2012 is phony:
A Ugandan high school student made You Tube video disputing US Kony propaganda.  Check her out at www.youtube.com/user/slubogo
FYI on another news item:
Dr. James Petras, frequent contributor to indy sites such as counterpunch, was on 3/15/12 Progressive Radio News Hour (progressiveradionetwork.com, click on show name under Archives to access).  Petras reports that the lone GI gone postal on Afghan villagers story may be inaccurate.  Villagers report seeing several GIs laughing and shooting during the massacre.  The village was under watch of Special Forces who had previously confiscated weapons of male inhabitants and/or arrested them.  This would explain why men didn't defend against the GI onslaught.

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PEASEHEAD - 03/19/2012 - 06:20

As I have clearly shown White supremacy has existed in many places in the world without Zionism and it has been practiced by many Whites who have no use for, or love of, or any relationship with Jews or Judaism or Zionists. The oppression my family experienced in Jim Crow America was not orchestrated by an invisible all powerful Zionist cabal. Our oppressors were devout White Christians who represented many "mainstream" denominations. Because many if not most Jews identify themselves as White Westerners, when it suits them, it has been easy for them to jump on the White supremacist bandwagon just as Irish, Italians, Russians, etc. etc.etc. have done. If Zionism was to magically disappear tomorrow, White supremacy would still be alive and well, and it would still be killing and oppressing Black people here and elsewhere in the world. Meanwhile, the same people who used Zionism as an excuse to avoid taking the power and the reality of race and racism seriously would try to displace the blame for the ongoing situation to  other causes such as "class" or "human nature."

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KhalidX34 minutes agoin reply to Michael Ryan

White people want equality? The black panthers have killed how many whites compared to the kkk?Do some research. A white man has written a book entitled when affirmative action was white. I'm going to post some facts based on your statement that whites want equality. Hispanic is a term created by ____________ Nixon . I also have some facts on America's oldest and first terror group. Michael Ryan I am driving this debate and will expose your weak logic with ease . O yeah I don't need your respect no good dirty white ___________

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why are white men & women soooo jealous??!!! Well let me enlighten you...It hurts to know that you don't look like God, huh? That jealously you feel in the pit of your stomach is directly related to the strength of God and you feel it everytime you gaze upon a BLACK man or woman. Our presence is Angelic because we were created in his image. If I were you I'd be jealous too!

chocolatefoxx765

 

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WHITE SUPREMACY TRUMPS ZIONISM

PEASEHEAD - 03/17/2012 - 17:58

For at least 500 years the Western European agenda in Africa has been to exploit and to control the people and the natural resources of the entire continent. While it is true that some of the White invaders/oppressors were (and are) Jews, or Zionists, or even Israeli sympathizers,  many more have been (and are) mainstream Christian capitalists. Neither the Belgians, the Portuguese, nor the Rhodesians were noted for their love of Jews or of Zionism. All of them were White supremacists, and the colonies which they imposed on Black Africans reflected it.  Most Afrikaners were German sympathizers during WWI and Nazi sympathizers during WWII. Because of this, there was a near civil war between Afrikaners and English speaking Whites during that time. The relationship between racist Whites in Africa and Zionist Israel wasn't a love affair. It was all about two White Western minorities marooned by their own racist policies coming together and pooling their resources in order to help each other to remain in power and in control by keeping the oppression going. If the ANC wasn't completely submissive to White interests within South Africa and in the West, they would long ago have released all of the documents exposing how Israel, the United States and other freedom-loving Western governments actively supported the apartheid regime for decades. Instead, the ANC remains cuddly with Israel, preferring to spend what little remains of its moral capital, banning and silencing Black critics, and slavishly serving the West's neo liberal agenda. I'm not saying that Zionism doesn't exist or that it is a benign ideology. What I am saying is that, when one compares the two, White supremacy is the biggest killer and oppressor of Blacks in history, and,  for most of that time, it has been practiced without any aid from Zionists.

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AFRICAN ILLITERACY TEST

PEASEHEAD - 03/17/2012 - 18:22

I think that all wannabe White Western do-gooders should be required to take and to pass a basic competency test consisting of 50 to 100 questions, including multiple choice questions and at least one essay before they are allowed to speak on African issues, let alone take up any crusades in Africa.

1. Find Africa on a globe.
2. Name the capital of Africa.
3. Name two African presidents. Note: Nelson Mandela and Idi Amin don't count.
4. When was Africa decolonized? Note: this may be a trick question depending on a student's understanding of the term "colonized."
5. Name three or more raw materials which the West and the rest of the world import in bulk from Africa. Note: pick items other than diamonds, oil, or gold.
6. Name three or more indigenous African languages.
6a. Extra credit. Where are the languages spoken?
7. Describe in detail the belief systems and rituals of two or more indigenuos African religions.
8. Essay. In 300 words or less explain why you believe that your involvement in Africa is necessary and why you believe that your intervention that it will cause more good than harm.

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New Words in 2012

Many of the US' Hyped 'Villian's' Were Once in Cahoots w the US

Nixakliel - 03/16/2012 - 00:20

Note the following articles: @ GlobalResearch.ca ['African Ping Pong: US Plays both Sides in Uganda. The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) is a US-backed Guerilla Force' @ http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29779]
And then there's: 'U.S. Confirms Liberian Leader [the notorious Charles Taylor] Worked for CIA': U.S. officials have confirmed long-held suspicions former Liberian president Charles Taylor worked for the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies. [Whom later the US decided to out him as a villian] @ www.seeingblack.com/article_1005.shtml
And from this article: Reason #5: The United States, the other “good guy” in Kony 2012's imaginary world invented the modern African child soldier in the late1970s and early 80s, so their commitment to “ending child soldiers” is a bit suspect. With US funding the former Aparthied Regime in S.Africa helped create and arm “contra” guerilla forces, UNITA in Angolan and RENAMO in Mozambique to burn schools and clinics, to mine orchards and roads, commit mass rapes, mutilations and murders, terrorizing citizens in their own country. Lacking foreign troops or popular support , but with US aid and plenty of firepower, UNITA and RENAMO hit upon the innovation of kidnapping and enslaving child soldiers to carry out their despicable mission. Both were effusively praised and lavishly funded by Barack Obama's favorite president Ronald Reagan, and their leaders welcomed at his White House.
Saddam Hussein & Manuel Noriega were CIA assets- whom later the US decided to cast as villians. Saddam did the US' bidding by over-throwing an elected gov't & 'purging' non-pro US elements from Iraq's gov't when he came to power. AND- Mr CIA / Skull{duggery}& Bones Bush Sr was Noriega's CIA pay-master!
And then we have 2 of the US' favorite Black / African dictatorships- Poppy & Baby Doc [who the US & France let return to Haiti 'Scott Free' w a 'Get out of Jail Free Card' as they at the same time tried to block the return of Pres Aristide {who they helped pull a coup on twice] Dulvalier -&- Last but not Least- The notorious Mobutu who- along w the CIA, the Belgiums & even the UN- had Patrice Lumuba's [and millions of Congoleses] blood all over his [& their] hands!

The problem w most folks in the US, white & even Black, especially young folk- is their knowledge of the World & history especially RE: Africa is quite shallow & lacking. IMO: Most people in the US think Africa is a country - rather than the 2nd largest continent on the planet! Thats the reason why 'Kony's' producers picked well known celebs to hype this phony 'Kony' {un}documentary- they know that most young folk will relate to & 'trust' that these celebs must know what's - what [NOT!] - When, in general, its actually just the opposite! When you've got folks like Rhianna, Lady Gaga & Kim Kardasian - hyping a {un}documentary RE: Africa- they probably do NOT know what the hell they're talking about!!!

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In England as well as America, what counts as standard English is the language as spoken and written by the educated classes. Cockney is not considered standard. But it is probably more common that Oxford English. The average Englishman doesn't speak like Bertrand Russell. The average American doesn't speak like Gore Vidal. The average Black American, to be ethnically specific, doesn't speak like W.E.B Du Bois.

-Savant

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Emotional and socio-economic insecurity. Marx was on to something when he said that "religion is the opium of the people." And Nkrumah noted in CONSCIENCISM that the most intensely religious people are usually the POORER people. African-Americans- -collectively--are perhaps the second poorest group in the USA, with only Native Americans being substantially poorer. The Christian religion gives folk something to hang onto in times of trouble. Even AA folk who are not poor generally have less socio-economic security than their white peers. For example, I am just one generation out of the ghetto myself; first person in the family (which we can trace back before the 1776 Revolution) to go to college. I don't have even the accumulated capital that many of my white colleagues have. Many more newly minted middle class Blacks are in that situation. Some of them also cling to religiion for that emotional security. African-Americans feel maybe a threatening void, feel there's no place for life anchoring moral values without religion. Black sociologist E. Franklin Frazier---famous for book THE BLACK BOURGEOISIE--argue s that the Black church is probably older than the Black family. (Church survived even during slavery more so than the family). The Church has been a kind of social cement holding the community together when seemingly noting else could. So, there's also just TRADITION. And let us keep in mind that the general level of education among our people is still well behind that of whites, exceeding perhaps Native Americans (who are poorer than us) and Latinos(many of whom are still struggling to learn English). Education will not necessarily turn you into an atheist, but a GOOD education forces you to examine things critically--includ ing your own beliefs

-Savant

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But it is fallacious, an instance of the fallacy of False Cause (post hoc ergo propter hoc)to infer that simply because crime incresed AFTER the ANC ascended to governance that it happened BECAUSE of the ANC. Crime was on the rise anyway. The problem of the ANC is not carrhing through on the social democratic economic reforms that they stood for when they were a persecuted oppositional movement. Now it's possible that for a time the corruptions of a previous regime will continue---even increase in a new, freer regime. Ironically, freedom may even aid for awhile the increase of evils already there and already incresing from the old regime. It is dubious to argue for that this means that the democracy is more corrupt than the previous tyranny. But if the ANC does not find a way of bring about democratic, egalitarian economic reforms, if it doesn't find a way of alleviating poverty, we will see--signs already there--of increasing class divisions within the African population. And that also makes for corruptions which can undermine democracy. Indeed, it is possible that if South Africa does not get on a progressive social democratic path---which is really the ANC'S own original program--we may see corrupt Black elites forming political marriages of convenience with the former white ruling caste. In that case we could eventually see South Africa back on the path toward a new (but no longer exclusively white) fascism, or a violent CLASS STRUGGLE. In his writings, and his speeches while on trial, Mandela argued for something like a social democratic alternative. I can only hope they get back on course in that direction. And maybe these popular protests is the wake up call the current government needed.

-Savant

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Kony 2012

eric - 03/15/2012 - 22:38

Please remmember that in Oct.2010 the Obama admin. rejected a ban on giving aid to countries that us child soldiers. Uganda could have caught Kony already if it had not used its army in invading the Congo.

The fact of warlordism is not addressed. Before kony there was Charles Taylor in Liberia, Polpot in Canbodia, The Shining path in Peru. The list goes on. What allows these events to continue.

If invisible Children were serious their first stop would be the Obama White House rejcting the ban on child soldiering.
Eric

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Note by Me: I don't agree with Cosby on poverty, but Cosby is doing something to help his people (like speeches, programs, scholarships, etc. Cosby isn't sitting on his tail. Farrakhan is doing some things and I don't agree with him on every issue too).

By Timothy

Cosby ought to start listening to the Occupy Movement, and show the animosity to the rich and the white that he showed to the black and the poor. But I guess Cosby knows who's paying him, and prefers to pimp himself out to the white ruling class. Oh there's a blame game going on. What do you think YOU have been doing all this time? The poor are being blame by the rich who impoverished them. Workers are being blamed by he employers who outsourced their jobs. The ignorant buffoon Herman Cain blames Blacks (who won't buy his bull)of being "brainwshed " into voting Democrat whie HE prostitues himself to the Republican Party and to his white massas, the Koch brothers. At any rate, what Cosby, Farrahkan and YOU have in common is that you have NOTHING to offer--not even vision of a better society without racial, class and gender inequalities. You have nothing relevant to contribute to this thread on NONVIOLENT REVOLUTION because you are yourself a reactionary. The only thing you're capable of doing is repeating the same old claptrap about how bad most black men are (men who you don't actually know) while community and the society is falling apart. Have you ever even read a book? Since you bring up Cosby, are you at least familiar with Dyson's critique of Cosby? Since the CLASS divide has been increasing globally as well as nationally and within the African-American community, do you have an analysis of why this is happening and what might be ways of correcting this/ Why does your covnersation never rise above the level of the Jerry Springer show? At any rate, I'm done. You're like SBT--simply repeating the same old line like a broken record, and regardless of what the issue is.

-Savant



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My Words on the Net (in response to a doubter):

The deal with people like you is that you want blacks to act like you, think like you, and believe in your historical revisionist interpretation of black people. Yet, black people have the right to strongly promote black power, black families, and black strength. This has nothing to do with being like Jackson or Shartpon. It's about asserting our manhood and rejecting intolerant austerity.

TruthSeeker24 1 day ago

The rest of your words are racist stereotypes. Most blacks aren't in jail. Most blacks are not involved in serious crime. Most black people work and most black people don't take welfare. Also, tons of blacks are breaking the cycle of oppression and are entering the spring of black liberation.

TruthSeeker24 2 days ago

Where is your evidence that most blacks play victims. Opposing history and exposing problems have nothing to do with playing the victim. It has to do with believing in reality. Nothing will ever get solve unless more black people call evil people out instead of sugarcoating the identities of the oppressors. Also, many pro-black leaders advocate hope, inspiration, improvement, and motivation (not a permanent thinking of defeatism). Your stereotyping is old. 

TruthSeeker24 2 days ago

I read about Liberia for years before the year 2000, so what are you talking about. See, just because we brothers are not the Tiger woods/Gumble/Alfonso Rivera type, doesn't mean we are unintelligent and lacking in knowledge of our black history. We don't bow to you. See, we are awakening our consciousness and fighting for true liberation without submitting to your thinking.

TruthSeeker24 3 days ago

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You have the right to say what you want. Just as I have the right to disagree with much of your views. Good enough? Your responsibility is to live your life. We blacks don't need stereotyping by you or historical revisionism from you. We just need justice simply put. Exposing the truth isn't playing a victim. It's play the victor. See, we are victors when we wake up and fight against white supremacy.I don't think that Sean Bell, etc. was crying wolf.

TruthSeeker24 3 days ago

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We agree on one precise point in that we didn't create all of our problems in the world. Now, individually blacks are responsible for their own actions, but collectively we under a system of white supremacy. That's reality whether you like it or not. Therefore, we have the right to fight it. I didn't say I blame white people for all of my problems. I did say that white society has a guilt complex and on many occasions refuse to see the complexities of social inequality and racism.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago

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The corporations promote the degradation of sisters not just some rappers. Not all rap is monolithic. Also, other genres of music slander female for centuries. The rest of your statements are old reactionary stereotypes. Tons of young blacks wish to be in a myriad of occupations not just sports or entertainment. More whites are in welfare and they have their issues. White people are in mostly other sports as well because of cultural reasons not because whites emphasizing something.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago       

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My ancestors didn't totally sold my people as slaves. That's a half truth. White Europeans organized the ships, trade routes, the money, the supplies, and the attacks on innocent black people. These criminals are to blamed for most of the Maafa. In this generation, white historical revisionists are attempting to delegitimate white responsibility for the Maafa, which is just as sick as Holocaust deniers.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago       

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Why did you mention Liberia. White people used Liberia (in a re-colonization scheme) as a means to ship blacks out of America not because they back then had a legitimate concern to promote equality for the black man. Also, many black Americans have every right to stay in America in order to fight for liberty and justice if they desire to. Black Americans have every right to go into Africa if they want to as well. Some benevolent acts of some white people doesn't excuse imperialism period.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago       

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Decent black men and black women exist. We agree on this point. Now, there is a distinction between exposing white supremacy and promoting blame against all white people (which I don't do). Now, many black people who are successful are Uncle toms if they desire to not help out of their own people. These black people aren't Uncle Toms if they have sincere love for their people. I don't believe in blaming your race for all crimes, but racism and poverty still exist.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago       

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See, it's really hypocritically to blame the victim instead of the criminal or perpretrator of the darkness. The perpetrators of the darkness (who created the war on terror, ecological disasters, & massive exploitation) aren't black people, but we realize their apparent, transparent identity. Many blacks are stigmatized and unfairly called criminals in the classroom without cultural tolerance. That is why some black people have these issues. Glen Ford has proven this point about education.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago       

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All of black people's troubles aren't of black people's making. That's an old lie. Black people didn't create slums, unemployment in America, the Maafa or the slave trade, Jim Crow, the prison industrial complex, or the other societal complications. We know who created these problems.

TruthSeeker24 1 week ago

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Regardless of everything you said, there is a White power structure and a plan to keep Blacks at a certain place for the basis of White demonination and survival. Malcolm X was trying to teach the People how to love themselves, but was killed by a Negro...why? The Black Panther party were doing the same - as well as trying to improve their neigbourhood and the society for Black children but yet the FBI conjured up a plan to destroy them and infiltrate their area...

mzChocoSensualHedbob 1 month ago

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Note by Me: I disagree with DarkOneSun's stereotyping of black women and he admits in his blog that he can't stand some black women (and he's married to one). Black women are always Queens no matter period. I get along with black women from across socioeconomic backgrounds all of the time. He is right on many issues though.

By Timothy

DarkOneSun on September 16, 2011 at 5:11 pm said:

I agree with this 100%. Adele is nothing special, there are tons of black women who sing like Adele–and ever better–who get no credit whatsoever. The late Amy Winehouse was another one. Non-blacks always get supreme credit for having qualities that are just regular to black folks.

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jazzwatch3 hours agoin reply to Derrick Witherspoon

We can IMPROVE all we can in OUR situations (education, our SELVES and etc,) but the BOTTOM LINE is they DO See us as a THREAT, educated or NOT......

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mmdccbslm3 hours agoin reply to monalisa15

There is a difference between needing to be stroked and being in a respectful relationship. Having it together doesn't mean you're in a relationship with the right person. It isn't even a qualification. Respect isn't accomodation. If a man would run a bath for you, wouldn't you do the same for him? Is a man supposed to not have a single place in this life where he can find comfort away from the struggles of the day? Is the veneer of strength a requirement? Do you secretly long for the hated 'chauvinist'? Then a whole nother set of 'problems' get introduced, right?
The use of generics is the first problem in communication. I do not refer to my woman in the plural and have yet to meet the generic woman. Each woman is unique and no woman would be with me if I did not think there were something special about her. I do not allow my partner to refer to me in any generic term. To me that is the most important thing in our understanding of each other.
Look at what goes into the longevity of any relationship and you'll find that they know each other and have been paying attention and are committed.
If black men and black women have to get beyond the worst in each other, then love will be forever difficult to find and keep.
It is about love, isn't it?

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The Revolutionist wrote:

I think a good thing to find out from the black community would be to see how many of our people actually care about there being any black businesses, we need to start doing things like surveys that are aimed at our people to gather stats and find out views concerning our issues.
Just like the whites are always gathering statistical data to learn about the population and their views and so on we need to do something similar. The reason I say this is because in order for us move forward we need proper feedback from black folks to see if the message is getting out concerning us doing things such as fixing up our communities, opening more businesses and so on.
I suspect that if blacks have to go out of their way to support a black business many of us probably won't bother and don't see the urgent need for more black businesses, I think our folks may need to be shown examples of how supporting black business can benefit them and their neighbourhoods.

I strongly agree that we need to take a widespread survey on what black people think about our problems. I just can't get over the fact that we're not angry at having the worst stats. Supporting black business shouldn't be something to think about so I am all in favor of whatever means neccesary to help us rise. I've noticed that the new generation cares less and less about BLACK unity because they are being conditioned to believe that the world is becoming a multicultural melting pot (and it isn't). Even though we have the highest unemployment and incarceration rates they do not see the benefits of our own black communities. They are beginning to believe the stereotypes perpetuated by the mythical gender war black men and women are supposed to be having and desire non black spouses. I don't believe this new generation is informed enough and I think if the concious people of our race do not reach them quick enough they will be the final nail in the coffin for any progression the black race can make. As I said, black people are too comfortable, like a slave who accepts negative circumstances against them, blacks today accept our high unemployment, high crime and incarceration rates, low graduation rates, and low economic involvement, yet unlike slaves we can prevent these things BUT WE DON'T!!!! We have been brainwashed to see black people as our enemies and do not want to unite. This is unacceptable behavior and I fear the day when blacks do not care that our population is dwindling and depend on non-black races to save us, sad part is...that day has already begun. I wish I had the ability to reach blacks everywhere but this forum will do for now.


-Near Future

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--I M WHITE-- wrote:

Everything you and your ilk have posted here if false and deceptive. Here is the real truth;
"Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing.

This is not the truth, A 200,000 year old gold mining African civilization has been found. If it makes you feel any better this report is not afrocentric and was written by whites, it even shows pictures so you cannot deny it:

Ancient Human Metropolis Found in Africa:
http://viewzone2.com/adamscalendarx.html

Dating the site:
http://www.viewzone2.com/adamscalendar22.html

--I M WHITE-- wrote:

Not a written language

Wrong, Africans have created several ancient African origin written languages, here are a few:

Proto-mande script:
http://www.crystalinks.com/hieratic.jpg

http://reocities.com/Athens/academy/8919/Imag...

Bamum script:
http://archivists.files.wordpress.com/2009/02...

http://www.afrikanistik-online.de/archiv/2009...

Shumom(Cameroon) script:
http://www.nigerianwiki.com/images/thumb/c/c1...

In around 300 BC, the Sudanese invented a writing script that had twenty-three letters of which four were vowels and there was also a word divider. Hundreds of ancient texts have survived that were in this script. Some are on display in the British Museum.

--I M WHITE-- wrote:

weaved cloth

Wrong again, Africans have long created clothing, as seen in their ancient statues:

http://www.galerieartafricain.com/configurati...

http://www.motherlandnigeria.com/pictures/bro...

one seventeenth century visitor to southern African empire of Monomotapa, that ruled over this vast region, wrote that:“The people dress in various ways: at court of the Kings their grandees wear cloths of rich silk, damask, satin, gold and silk cloth; these are three widths of satin, each width four covados [2.64m], each sewn to the next, sometimes with gold lace in between, trimmed on two sides, like a carpet, with a gold and silk fringe, sewn in place with a two fingers’ wide ribbon, woven with gold roses on silk.”

In the mid-nineteenth century, William Clarke, an English visitor to Nigeria, remarked that:“As good an article of cloth can be woven by the Yoruba weavers as by any people ... in durability, their cloths far excel the prints and home-spuns of Manchester.”

A Portuguese chronicler of the sixteenth century wrote that:“[T]hey are finely clad in many rich garments of gold and silk and cotton, and the women as well; also with much gold and silver chains and bracelets, which they wear on their legs and arms, and many jewelled earrings in their ears”.

--I M WHITE-- wrote:

, a calendar

Wrong again, I've already shown the 200,000 year old South african calendar. Africans have pioneered cosmology and astronomy

The Dogon discovered the Sirius star somehow without a telescope centuries ago, while white astronomers have just begun to research it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Michael Palin, in his TV series Sahara, said the imam of Timbuktu “has a collection of scientific texts that clearly show the planets circling the sun. They date back hundreds of years ... Its convincing evidence that the scholars of Timbuktu knew a lot more than their counterparts in Europe. In the fifteenth century in Timbuktu the mathematicians knew about the rotation of the planets, knew about the details of the eclipse, they knew things which we had to wait for 150 almost 200 years to know in Europe when Galileo and Copernicus came up with these same calculations and were given a very hard time for it.”


-Near Future

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TIPTG77UL0LFSU80B/p120


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I'm about to give clear details and information to disprove him, and I know that he will still deny the facts. I will display documented quotes by European explorers, pictures of ancient African structures that still stand today, and drawings by European explorers, and Timbuktu manuscripts (which prove written language). However he will still deny it, then I will truly know that debating a racist leads to a waste of time. I'll still make the attempt because I enjoy posting our history, but I know for I M White to accept defeat would make him have to recant on a majority of his views of blacks that keep him on this forum. It will be interesting and even amusing to see his counter arguements.

-Near Future

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monalisa156 hours agoin reply to G

I have so much love for black men and that's why it's so painful black women have to go through so much to be with a black man. Black men do not understand as a black women we have to be superwoman. We don't have the luxury of wallowing about issues that is not going to get us to where we need to be. We have children to raise, parents to care for when they age. Most of us don't have help. We have to work two jobs, go to school, raise kids, help mama and daddy, and cook and clean. So I am sorry it appears we don't nurture your every need and help you with your insecurities as a man. I am sorry. We just don't have time.

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We are waiting, and waiting..... and still we wait for your proof that blacks didn't civilise and populate the world and lay the foundations for modern technology by inventing;

Tools, Fire, Mining Gold, creating Medicine, Cosmetics, Astrology, first use of Numbers and Maths, first Religions, first to Measure Time, first to travel the globe, first to create Art, Music, language, first to domesticate Animals, the first to create pottery and the first people who invented agriculture and crops.

..,. But you and I know you can't even begin to debate any of this can you? Even though you have been researching this for the last two weeks, all your results have led you to Africa.. loooooooooool...

It must be embarrassing being a trashy white loser who has lived a life of nothing but complete and utter failure, yet now you want to debate the failures of a race of people who gave birth to your race and your civilisations, plus we are "GENETICALLY SUPERIOR" to you!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331949,00...

Loooooooooooooooooool

-The Revolutionist

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Moving Back to Nigeria- CNN video

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

CNN - Nigerian fast food goes global

http://www.youtube.com/watch...


http://newsone.com/newsone-original/tjstarr/black-men-killed-by-white-people/


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NearFuture wrote:

4 Ways to Support Black Businesses
How to put your black buying power to use
With black buying power on track to reach $1.2 trillion in 2015, Chandra R. Thomas of Atlanta, GA, along with two of her friends, found it disturbing that although African Americans are the largest consumers, they aren’t spending money with African American vendors and business owners. In 2003 they established a discussion group primarily for African American professionals, called TalkBLACK. The group hosts two-hour meetings on the first Saturday of each month at a black-owned venue and encourages attendees to purchase at least one item from the menu.“I want to dispel the myth that by supporting black-owned business you’re settling for less quality,” says Thomas.
The 37-year-old freelance journalist provided these four tips to encourage others to support black businesses.
1. Research local black-owned businesses.
You may be surrounded by black-owned businesses and not even know it. Find out by asking friends, contact an African American business organization, or casually inquiring at a venue about its ownership.“We also emphasize in meetings that we are looking for black businesses, and people will say ‘I know someone and give a referral,” Thomas says.
2. Make supporting black-owned businesses a priority.
TalkBLACK built the idea of supporting black-owned businesses into its culture, and any time it holds an event, it first looks at options that can benefit black businesses. But you don’t have to start an organization in order to support black-owned business; you can follow TalkBLACK’s lead as a member of any professional group you belong to, or wity your family. Whether you need flowers, tablecloths, or printed invitations, Thomas says,“Organizations should sit down and think about what they need on a regular basis and make a sincere effort to get an African American vendor or business owner to supply it. That should be your first course of action.” Some TalkBLACK members have selected Saturday as the day they patronize only black-owned businesses.
3. Share information with family and friends.
Once you identify black-owned businesses in your community, encourage others to support them too. A few years ago, Thomas sent out an e-mail telling friends to support a black-owned beauty supply store and an emissions center she’d found in her neighborhood.“We need to be an example to others, and we need to spread the word,” she says.“If black-owned businesses go down, it hurts the community.”
4. Don’t be put off by a bad experience.
“Someone can go to a place and have a bad experience and make a sweeping statement like,‘That’s why I don’t support black businesses.’ I think that’s the wrong attitude,” says Thomas. Instead, she suggests responding to poor service by cordially asking to speak with the management and making a decision based on the outcome.

I think a good thing to find out from the black community would be to see how many of our people actually care about there being any black businesses, we need to start doing things like surveys that are aimed at our people to gather stats and find out views concerning our issues.

Just like the whites are always gathering statistical data to learn about the population and their views and so on we need to do something similar. The reason I say this is because in order for us move forward we need proper feedback from black folks to see if the message is getting out concerning us doing things such as fixing up our communities, opening more businesses and so on.

I suspect that if blacks have to go out of their way to support a black business many of us probably won't bother and don't see the urgent need for more black businesses, I think our folks may need to be shown examples of how supporting black business can benefit them and their neighbourhoods.
-The Revolutionist

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Note by Me: I don't believe that most brothers in the corporate world are in alternative lifestyles, but he is right that many of them sacrifice their identity in order to be in the fold.

By Timothy


R&G on September 8, 2011 at 10:50 am said:

Bruh, I’m from California, LA; and I think it’s just the group you hang around. Since you are in the bay area I am sure you aren’t rolling through East Oakland or North Richmond so your judging the area from the weirdos you happen to see.
I agree with one thing you said and most Brothers in the corporate game seem to be gay. I think that’s because they have been neutered and they have mastered how to be non-offensive to whites overall.
Before you start condemning the whole coast you need to spread out a bit more. The crabs in the barrel theory only effects you if you happen to be in the barrel with them. Join some meetup groups or some young Black professional groups and then make your decision. Look around for a while and you’ll see what we are about. California is the land of the militants from the gangbangers to the South and the Black Panthers to the North. Look around and you’ll see them

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Coolmandingo82 wrote:

So what solutions do you have for men like myself. Who are frustrated?

If you are frustrated, first is to have self evaluation (or think about your life). Outline your strengths and your weaknesses (in your personality, dating skills, etc.). This is done before going out with a woman. Find ways to lessening your weakenesses and build up on your strengths. Second, if you want to go out with a sister, hang out with sisters that have similar personalities, similar occupational jobs, or the similar socioeconomic scale that you are in presently. There is nothing wrong with a man going out with a poorer sister too if it's for a sincere justification. An average, everyday woman is a blessing indeed. This can increase success in the romantic department. Also, the surrounding areas have plenty of nice sisters in your area too. You can transmit that energy of frustratation into action. Positive energy is always better than permanent frustration. Not to mention that a strong black man can easily attract a real black sister irrespective of physical appearance. A man just has to act like a man. Some men in the younger generation I see refuse to hunt for fear of rejection or humiliation (they want the woman to just come to them, because of status, money, or whatever). On the other hand, we men have to hunt. We are territorial, we can be aggressive at times, and we like to be active. We are men period.
Nothing is given on a silver platter. If we men want to go out with a sister; we have communicate with the sister like a man. We should also respect a sister saying no. A woman saying no isn't the end of the world. You can just move forward and find companionship with a sister of better comptability. We brothers are descendants of very strong people that suffered much more than we suffer now. If our ancestors can go out with women and make children (under oppressive circumstances), then we can do the same. If a man in supreme poverty can date and marry a woman in 2012 today, then we brothers can do the same.

-By Timothy

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Daniel on September 16, 2011 at 2:03 pm said:

I Agree with this post. I have not only seen this, but I have experienced this personally. Non-blacks are only cool with you when it is time to party, say the N-word, and listen to hip-hop and hang out. When you mention anything about the plight of black people in this country and worldwide, they are quick to get angry and recite this ole “We are the World and hiphop belongs to the world” b____t. They feel as though they deserve to take anything good you have, use it for themselves, and act like they didn’t get it from you. This is one of the main reasons why brothers in my circle have closed our culture and other things to these parasites. And you know what? They can’t stand it! They can’t stand not being able to be a part of our activities, conversations, and interactions. We even change our lingo every few months on campus so they can’t catch on. Totally shunning white people out of our circle has caused them to go crazy! I suggests other brothers do the same thing.

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