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Shawn Torry9 hours ago
Okay, consider this scenario, say I am Treyvon and I am walking home. I notice someone following me. I start to run (which is verified on 911 recording), the follower gives chase. I think that I lost him, but then he appears again. I ask, "why are you following me?" The person replies, "what are you doing here?". This man does not have on a uniform that would indicate that he has some kind of legal authority. He makes a move of some kind towards me, and fearing for my own safety I hit him. We wrestle briefly, and he then shoots me.
Who had the right to feel threatened initially? I, Trayvon did. Who had the right to defend himself? I, Trayvon did. Who was told by the 911 dispather not to follow me? Zimmerman was. Who provoked the entire chain of events? Zimmerman. Who was not armed and is now in a grave? I, Trayvon am.
Where is the justice?
I do not care how many Black friends Zimmerman had. He stalked and murdered Trayvon.
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ACS20008 hours agoin reply to Shawn Torry
Who had the right to feel threatened initially? I, Trayvon did. Who had the right to defend himself? I, Trayvon did. Who was told by the 911 dispather not to follow me? Zimmerman was. Who provoked the entire chain of events? Zimmerman. Who was not armed and is now in a grave? I, Trayvon am.
Where is the justice?
I do not care how many Black friends Zimmerman had. He stalked and murdered Trayvon.
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ACS20008 hours agoin reply to Shawn Torry
you took the words out of my head!! Well said! I think some info will be uncovered that will make this story far more disgusting about the law enforcement and the guapos who get a God-complex when they are carrying guns, ask any undercover cop who sign up for neighborhood watch to seek out drug deals in a luxury apartment community who believes only suspects have melanin color but say they are not racist because they have black friends... oh wait maybe you can't...
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Dandelion21 hours ago
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Dandelion21 hours ago
“You’ve got all these people wanting to lynch the man and they don’t know the whole story. There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence.”
So it's not okay to judge Zimmerman based on what is now known, but it's okay to DEFEND him? I would respect this BOOT-LICKER more if he would hold his tongue until all the evidence is given. He is FOOLISH to believe that a RACIST will reveal their hate. Don't the KLAN wear disguises??? Please, I bet every last one of the WHITE RACISTS that come on this site has at least ONE BLACK PERSON believing they are a GOOD PERSON. SMH.
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BlackHeywood21 hours ago
So it's not okay to judge Zimmerman based on what is now known, but it's okay to DEFEND him? I would respect this BOOT-LICKER more if he would hold his tongue until all the evidence is given. He is FOOLISH to believe that a RACIST will reveal their hate. Don't the KLAN wear disguises??? Please, I bet every last one of the WHITE RACISTS that come on this site has at least ONE BLACK PERSON believing they are a GOOD PERSON. SMH.
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Political parties change and they have over the last 150 years. Today's Republican Party is not the party of Lincoln any more than today's Democratic Party supports the KKK and opposes integration. Then was then and now is now. I have always questioned the practice of trying to live in the past.Sagacity wrote:As a black man I could never vote for the party that:
Supported slavery
Loathed abolitionists
Opposed the emancipation Proclamation
Undermined Lincoln’s war efforts
Opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments
Created black codes
Created the KKK
Created Jim Crow
Opposed anti-lynching legislation
Opposed Integration
Supported American apartheid
Believes in a paternalistic infantilizing welfare control system
-A Person
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BlackHeywood21 hours ago
Mr Oliver you are asking the public to afford the murderer George Zimmerman the benefit of doubt, which is something he did not afford Trayvon Martin. Thanks to the 911 tapes we know that Zimmerman stalked , approached then killed Trayvon Martin despite clearly being told NOT to pursue him.If he felt Trayvon was a threat then why did he exit his car and attack Trayvon. The 911 tapes speak for themselves and for Trayvon Martin to what happened that night.
Zimmerman may not be racist toward you because in his mind you are a "different kind" of Black man and I'm willingly to bet you had conversation with Zimmerman about the behavior and apparel of young Black men which also feeds into the warped mind of George Zimmerman. Your opinion of Zimmerman not being a racist is based on your experience with him, but his own words and actions proved him to be as racist as the White men who used lynched innocent Black men because they could. We expect someone like you to come out the woodwork and defend George Zimmerman despite what the tapes prove he said and did that night.
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Symone21 hours ago
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Superhentendo21 hours ago
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mr_rightnowww20 hours ago
Zimmerman may not be racist toward you because in his mind you are a "different kind" of Black man and I'm willingly to bet you had conversation with Zimmerman about the behavior and apparel of young Black men which also feeds into the warped mind of George Zimmerman. Your opinion of Zimmerman not being a racist is based on your experience with him, but his own words and actions proved him to be as racist as the White men who used lynched innocent Black men because they could. We expect someone like you to come out the woodwork and defend George Zimmerman despite what the tapes prove he said and did that night.
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Symone21 hours ago
So I'm supposed to believe this man is not a racist even though he
referred to Trayvon as a F--k--g C**n just because Zimmerman's one so
called Black friend claims he's not racist.I will not be misled by The
Devil's helper because any Black person that aide in trying to HUMANIZE
this MONSTER is someone I just will not even begin to listen to....
A dude that called the police station 46 times and each time subjects of
suspicion were ALL Black men and even one SEVEN year old is definitely
someone that seems RACIST to me.....
referred to Trayvon as a F--k--g C**n just because Zimmerman's one so
called Black friend claims he's not racist.I will not be misled by The
Devil's helper because any Black person that aide in trying to HUMANIZE
this MONSTER is someone I just will not even begin to listen to....
A dude that called the police station 46 times and each time subjects of
suspicion were ALL Black men and even one SEVEN year old is definitely
someone that seems RACIST to me.....
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Superhentendo21 hours ago
Who cares if he's racist,he's a murderer thats all that matters
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The41120 hours agoin reply to stevealex
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Rachel51 minutes ago
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Diamond Jonelle5 hours ago
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Kat Onenonly Zoll17 hours ago
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BlackHeywood17 hours ago
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The Separatist6 hours ago
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AdrenalineKrush16 hours ago
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Mindy10 hours ago
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The41120 hours agoin reply to stevealex
THIS is an INSULT to the intelligence!!!!
It's an Insult because the Zimmerman Klan searched several days for a
token s________ to quell the flames as though we should believe him just
because he's Black versus Zimmerman's OWN WORDS he used on the 911 tape
and the type of ACTIONS HE DID.
It's an Insult... just because some white man treats one negro good,
doesn't mean they are NOT a racist. Many racists use manipulative
behaviors to gain what they want from others. It has happened
throughout history!!
It's an Insult... to give us some condescending BULL like this. Many see
these transparent schemes as clear as day!! As someone on another
post eloquently elaborated, many racists are NOT even able to comprehend
that they are racist.
It's an Insult that we have so many of these s______'s running around these days as imposter Blacks/African Americans.
The BEST THING Zimmerman can do is unwedge his morbidly obese self up
from out of his klan of protectors and come forth to justice!! He got
thousands of people continuously in prayer for justice and hundreds of
folks looking for him. So it's a matter of time!! He was a "man" when
he went hunting with his gun, so he bes' come forth as the cowardly
chicken he is before his bacon is cooked being the p___ he is.
It's an Insult because the Zimmerman Klan searched several days for a
token s________ to quell the flames as though we should believe him just
because he's Black versus Zimmerman's OWN WORDS he used on the 911 tape
and the type of ACTIONS HE DID.
It's an Insult... just because some white man treats one negro good,
doesn't mean they are NOT a racist. Many racists use manipulative
behaviors to gain what they want from others. It has happened
throughout history!!
It's an Insult... to give us some condescending BULL like this. Many see
these transparent schemes as clear as day!! As someone on another
post eloquently elaborated, many racists are NOT even able to comprehend
that they are racist.
It's an Insult that we have so many of these s______'s running around these days as imposter Blacks/African Americans.
The BEST THING Zimmerman can do is unwedge his morbidly obese self up
from out of his klan of protectors and come forth to justice!! He got
thousands of people continuously in prayer for justice and hundreds of
folks looking for him. So it's a matter of time!! He was a "man" when
he went hunting with his gun, so he bes' come forth as the cowardly
chicken he is before his bacon is cooked being the p___ he is.
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Rachel51 minutes ago
I work less than 2 miles away from where the crime took place and live less than 7 miles away. I have a teenage son who plays basketball, wears a hoodie and has friends in that complex as many of them go to the high school which is the only one in the district. After a game last year they all went back to the complex to play video game and hang out and swim with one of the team members. They were let off at the front gate and were walking towards the house when 2 men came towards them and asked them what they were doing in the neighborhood. By the way none of the men was George Zimmerman.
Being boys they wanted to know why and the men told them they were tresspassing and started to harrass them. They wanted to see their ID and the address where they were going. Luckily they kept on walking and had reached the house. The boy's father who is a Seminole County police officer came out and asked what was going on. One of the men told them they were walking and looking suspicious. The officer became enraged and told the men people don't have to explain themselves to anyone if they are only walking. He also told the men if they ever step to his son or anyone in his family in that way they would be picking up their teeth off the sidewalk. They apologized to the boys and quickly left. So this proves this is not normal behavior and these men only want to act macho. We have to get justice for this precious angel.
Being boys they wanted to know why and the men told them they were tresspassing and started to harrass them. They wanted to see their ID and the address where they were going. Luckily they kept on walking and had reached the house. The boy's father who is a Seminole County police officer came out and asked what was going on. One of the men told them they were walking and looking suspicious. The officer became enraged and told the men people don't have to explain themselves to anyone if they are only walking. He also told the men if they ever step to his son or anyone in his family in that way they would be picking up their teeth off the sidewalk. They apologized to the boys and quickly left. So this proves this is not normal behavior and these men only want to act macho. We have to get justice for this precious angel.
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Diamond Jonelle5 hours ago
This post is for Joe Oliver!
You have your facts all wrong…the 911 operator did not say to Zimmerman, "You don't have to do that." In fact, if you listen with unbiased listening skills you will hear the operator says at approximately one minute and 57 seconds into this audio recording, "We don't need you to do that." Your statement seem to try and lend that the 911 dispatcher left some area of vagueness of whether Zimmerman should pursue Martin or not, but that was clearly not the case. Listen for yourself via this link: http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk if you don’t believe me.
In the audio clip, Zimmerman also says, at the fifty-nine seconds point, "Now he's coming towards me". Then he goes on to say at one minute and four seconds in that "He has his hand in his waist band". I have to ponder, why didn't Zimmerman shoot then? Was he not threatened then that this young teen that was "On drugs or something" was going to pull out a gun and shoot him first? Was he not threatened by the young teen approaching him at this point? Was he not in fear for his life where he would ask the dispatcher, “I’m in fear for my life, what should I do?” or again when Zimmerman says to the 911 operator at one minute and twenty-three seconds into the recording, "he's coming to check me out." Why was he threatened only after the young man was walking away from him and heading toward the club house near the back entrance to the community? Why didn't he shout out to Trayvon, with the 911 dispatcher on the line to guide him, Hey, what are you doing? Or ask him, do you live around here? Or perhaps something simple like...Are you ok? You look a little disoriented...have you been attacked? Given that the very thing that supposedly had sparked Zimmerman to beef up his surveillance of the neighborhood was the recent rise of break-ins. This young teen could have been the victim of a robber and escaped. But Zimmerman didn't see him as a victim...he saw him as a perpetrator. Why do you think that is Oliver? I mean, you said that your "good friend" was not racist, he had never shown you any indication that he was right? So was Martin carrying a sack of goods he just had stolen from a home? Was he brandishing a weapon? Was he stumbling or doing the ‘crack head lean’? I'm curious Oliver, what did your "good friend" say to you about why he deemed Martin suspicious and why he felt he needed to pursue him? You did ask him didn't you? You two are such "good friends" right? You mean to tell me that you didn't want to know why your "good friend" felt threatened to the point where felt he needed to remove his gun from its holster, take off the safety, point it at this human being, and fire into his chest.
It's clear that you are bias because of your friendship with Zimmerman, but I think you need to reserve your comments, especially when trying to state the facts. A life was taken here, and your nonchalant attitude towards it, mimics Zimmerman's nonchalant attitude toward the taking of a human life. No matter how you want to point out that Zimmerman was shorter than Martin, or that Zimmerman is lighter in weight than the photos of him circulating portray him to be. Self-defense is NOT a truthful defense when Zimmerman was asked not to pursue Martin, yet he did. When Zimmerman lost contact with Martin, the threat was over, if it ever existed in the first place; yet he was content on obviously ignoring the 911 operator's instruction to not pursue because in the audio clip you clearly hear that Zimmerman is either running or quickly walking in search of Martin. The evidence of that is in the heavy breathing on Zimmerman’s part that continues seconds after he is asked told that law enforcement does not want him to pursue the teen. It is also evident that self-defense is not warranted at this point in the matter because Zimmerman says to the 911 operator, at approximately two minutes and eight seconds into the recording, "He ran," not, “He’s running towards me.”
I pray that you are subpoenaed for the trial, because I would like nothing more than to see the prosecutor tear you apart on the witness stand as you sit in alliance with a man, who may or may not be a racist, but who clearly has some mental and emotional issues that need addressing, and who clearly took a human life without justifiable cause.
You have your facts all wrong…the 911 operator did not say to Zimmerman, "You don't have to do that." In fact, if you listen with unbiased listening skills you will hear the operator says at approximately one minute and 57 seconds into this audio recording, "We don't need you to do that." Your statement seem to try and lend that the 911 dispatcher left some area of vagueness of whether Zimmerman should pursue Martin or not, but that was clearly not the case. Listen for yourself via this link: http://youtu.be/6aVwPqXc-bk if you don’t believe me.
In the audio clip, Zimmerman also says, at the fifty-nine seconds point, "Now he's coming towards me". Then he goes on to say at one minute and four seconds in that "He has his hand in his waist band". I have to ponder, why didn't Zimmerman shoot then? Was he not threatened then that this young teen that was "On drugs or something" was going to pull out a gun and shoot him first? Was he not threatened by the young teen approaching him at this point? Was he not in fear for his life where he would ask the dispatcher, “I’m in fear for my life, what should I do?” or again when Zimmerman says to the 911 operator at one minute and twenty-three seconds into the recording, "he's coming to check me out." Why was he threatened only after the young man was walking away from him and heading toward the club house near the back entrance to the community? Why didn't he shout out to Trayvon, with the 911 dispatcher on the line to guide him, Hey, what are you doing? Or ask him, do you live around here? Or perhaps something simple like...Are you ok? You look a little disoriented...have you been attacked? Given that the very thing that supposedly had sparked Zimmerman to beef up his surveillance of the neighborhood was the recent rise of break-ins. This young teen could have been the victim of a robber and escaped. But Zimmerman didn't see him as a victim...he saw him as a perpetrator. Why do you think that is Oliver? I mean, you said that your "good friend" was not racist, he had never shown you any indication that he was right? So was Martin carrying a sack of goods he just had stolen from a home? Was he brandishing a weapon? Was he stumbling or doing the ‘crack head lean’? I'm curious Oliver, what did your "good friend" say to you about why he deemed Martin suspicious and why he felt he needed to pursue him? You did ask him didn't you? You two are such "good friends" right? You mean to tell me that you didn't want to know why your "good friend" felt threatened to the point where felt he needed to remove his gun from its holster, take off the safety, point it at this human being, and fire into his chest.
It's clear that you are bias because of your friendship with Zimmerman, but I think you need to reserve your comments, especially when trying to state the facts. A life was taken here, and your nonchalant attitude towards it, mimics Zimmerman's nonchalant attitude toward the taking of a human life. No matter how you want to point out that Zimmerman was shorter than Martin, or that Zimmerman is lighter in weight than the photos of him circulating portray him to be. Self-defense is NOT a truthful defense when Zimmerman was asked not to pursue Martin, yet he did. When Zimmerman lost contact with Martin, the threat was over, if it ever existed in the first place; yet he was content on obviously ignoring the 911 operator's instruction to not pursue because in the audio clip you clearly hear that Zimmerman is either running or quickly walking in search of Martin. The evidence of that is in the heavy breathing on Zimmerman’s part that continues seconds after he is asked told that law enforcement does not want him to pursue the teen. It is also evident that self-defense is not warranted at this point in the matter because Zimmerman says to the 911 operator, at approximately two minutes and eight seconds into the recording, "He ran," not, “He’s running towards me.”
I pray that you are subpoenaed for the trial, because I would like nothing more than to see the prosecutor tear you apart on the witness stand as you sit in alliance with a man, who may or may not be a racist, but who clearly has some mental and emotional issues that need addressing, and who clearly took a human life without justifiable cause.
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Kat Onenonly Zoll17 hours ago
This is just sickening. We really need to take a further look into who is protecting our cities and neighborhood. If we can't trust em who can we trust. As a child I was taught police were the safest people next to teachers n preachers to run to. Now days all three are the last on my list. Sick!
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BlackHeywood17 hours ago
Some folks will say and do anything to gain notoriety and get themselves in the news from ignorant claims that it was the Hoodie Trayvon was wearing that helped cause his death, to the middle aged Black man who claims Zimmerman isn't racist, although I'm willing to bet Mr Oliver own words fed into Zimmerman racist beliefs and actions to now a ignorant and possible racist officer and his equally ignorant wife making comments on a case they know nothing about. I hope this cop is terminated ,his own words make him unfit psychologically to be a Police Officer in America. These are sad people whose own inner demons and hatred has taken control of them and they cannot help but to reveal who they really are.
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The Separatist6 hours ago
I am never surprised about what people who are afflicted with the disease of racism will say. The hoodie is not the real issue here and deep down they know this. If the hoodie was actually the issue then would it have been suspicious for a 90 year old white woman to wear one? What about someone in a wheelchair or who walks with a cane? A 5 year old child perhaps? Or maybe some conjoined twins? IT DOES NOT MATTER! What matters is it was a young black man wearing that hoodie. They fear the black man not the clothes he was wearing. The disease of racism instills that fear and because they fear the black man they automatically perceive him as a threat and stereotype and profile him as suspicious. It doesn’t matter if he was wearing a suit and tie, the outcome would have been the same. Trayvon Martin was profiled, stalked, chased, attacked and then killed just for being an African-American. This is what matters, this is the only thing that matters.
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AdrenalineKrush16 hours ago
He said everything but drop the N-bomb. Black folks betta come to grip with reality. Racism is not finished. And your social class doesn't exempt you from it.
Mindy10 hours ago
Who cares if he is a racist or not? He shot an unarmed boy. And sir the "evidence" won't show that he is innocent. You know why? BECAUSE THERE IS NONE!!!! The police didn't collect any!!!! You have to be kidding me..."goon"???????? You know like Doctor Phil says "Common sense just ain't common anymore"!!!!
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Justsayin'5 hours ago
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Justsayin'5 hours ago
Sounds like Joe Oliver is another sellout who could care less about if a black youth is killed. He has apparently "made it" and the rest of us hostile n--___ need to pipe down before the "good" black people such as himself get labeled as other than good. I'll bet a million his a_____ is married to a white woman. Definitely what we don't need, his kind is the worst kind of black person. I'll also bet he is a Republican who opposes everything President Obama does just to impress his white friends, colleagues, wife, etc.
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Joe Smith19 hours ago
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2Queens1143414 minutes ago
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Joe Smith19 hours ago
All Trayvon wanted to do was get home before a stranger man following him caught up. Zimmerman wanted to detain Trayvon or stop him from getting to the house until the police arrived because quote... "THEY ALWAYS GET AWAY!!!!". (Who are they? Innocent kids walking?)
TRAYVON WASN'T THEM!!!!!!! HE WAS INNOCENT AND HAD A HOME IN THAT GATED COMMUNITY AS WELL.
In the 911 tapes you can hear Zimmy saying "he's checking me out" and then you hear Zimmy get out of the car and start running and out of breath as the 911 dispatcher says "are you following him? we don't need you to do that police are on their way."
The kid didn't chase him and if he told the police that Trayvon did chase him then he must know that he did something wrong!!! WHY LIE IF YOU DID NOTHING WRONG???
Zimmy told his dad that same lie and his dad repeated it to reporters. THEY HAD TO CHANGE HIS DEFENSE AFTER THE 911 TAPES CAME OUT OF HIM ADMITTED HE WAS CHASING TRAYVON!! That is why his lawyer said "Stand Your Ground" doesn't apply!!
TRAYVON WASN'T THEM!!!!!!! HE WAS INNOCENT AND HAD A HOME IN THAT GATED COMMUNITY AS WELL.
In the 911 tapes you can hear Zimmy saying "he's checking me out" and then you hear Zimmy get out of the car and start running and out of breath as the 911 dispatcher says "are you following him? we don't need you to do that police are on their way."
The kid didn't chase him and if he told the police that Trayvon did chase him then he must know that he did something wrong!!! WHY LIE IF YOU DID NOTHING WRONG???
Zimmy told his dad that same lie and his dad repeated it to reporters. THEY HAD TO CHANGE HIS DEFENSE AFTER THE 911 TAPES CAME OUT OF HIM ADMITTED HE WAS CHASING TRAYVON!! That is why his lawyer said "Stand Your Ground" doesn't apply!!
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2Queens1143414 minutes ago
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Genetically modified ingredients (GMOs): linked to sterility, infant mortality, cell death, and the potential destruction of the planetary biosphere.
Artificial sweeteners (aspartame,
sucralose): Found to spawn tumors in the majority of female rats
tested. The study showed that of 48 rats experimented on, up to 67
percent of all female rats developed tumors roughly the size of golf
balls or larger.
Monosodium glutamate (MSG) (in various forms to be listed): an
obesity-inducing “flavor enhancer” that has an enormously sweet taste
and is widely used by the restaurant industry to make otherwise bad and
unhealthy food taste delicious.
High-fructose corn syrup: known to contain mercury, promotes obesity more than regular sugar, and is prevalent among the food supply.
Pesticides: pesticides are known to be causing birth defects and are also contributing to the obesity epidemic.
Herbicides: herbicides like Roundup are causing mental illness, obesity, killing human kidney cells, and killing the butterfly population.
Pre-sale irradiation: a large amount of produce is subject to pre-sale irradiation (including ionizing gamma radiation, the kind used in nuclear material and and X-rays).
Bisphenol-a (BPA): found to be leading to infertility, diabetes, depression, and even cancer.
Anthony Gucciardi
NaturalSociety
March 26, 2012
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mr_rightnowww20 hours ago
bringing forward a "black friend" to defend zimmerman is like bringing forward a female friend to defend ted bundy : "hey, i'm a woman and i knew ted and he never raped and strangled me."
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