Now that's the kind of simplistic response one gets from an interlocutor when she/he doesn't have an intelligent and informed reply to offer.
Sorry for not reading your book but it's just a bunch of foreign rhetoric. Yada, yada, yada, sold American! You talk all this crap but I see your head still rest comfortably each night under the American sky.
It's also evidence of the backwardness of America. While abroad I noticed that even when I disagreed with someone, they'd reply with RATTIONAL ANSWERS, not "yada, yada yada". LOL!
As for what I SAID about the comparison, it's not "foreign rhetoric". For DECADES there has been RESEARCH shwoing how much our educational standards are poorer than those of Europe, and even poorer than those of many undeveloped countries.
Our health care system is a disaster, far below what one expects in a wealthy nation. The level of iiteracy is LOWER, partly because of a deep-seated ANTI-INTELLECTUAL cultural tradition--quite characteristically expressed by your own posts.
Also, I gather that yuo DON'T read books if you think that my previous post is a book. LOL! Do you read comic strips? Or maybe your favorite pastimes are texting, talk shows, FoxNews and other and similar forms of recreation.
By the way, when I was in high school one of the first persons I read who expressed some of what you call foreign rhetoric was none other than that famous AFRICAN-AMERICAN named Martin Luther King, Jr, who noted that in Sweden there were NO slums, no mass unemployment, no mass illliteracy or functinal illiteracy, no peeple unable to afford decent health care. And people have a high quality of education....somethng unknown in this much richer country unless you are rich.
But King, like I, did not choose to stay in Sweden either. He sought to IMPROVE this country.
Well enough of this. I will leave you and fellow closeminded individuals to post your juvenile pish posh about black men, women or whoever.
But i can't help thinking that people like you help keep America backward. Or is it America's COLLECTIVE backwardness that makes some many individuals like you backward?
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Actually, the USA is considerably backward compared to most western Industrial nations. Less literate, more parochial, and generally MORE ignorant. I even notice that among students. Foreign students are genenrally more well read and better informed. Again, religious fundamentalists nincompoops and snake oil salesmen have an easier time in America than in Europe. Actually, only in some of the Muslim countries does the religious con game have popularity compared to America.
Americans are very used to foreigners from poverty stricken third world countries with corrupt leaders, brutal bloody dictors, running to this country for sanctuary and help but after a while bitting the American hands who have fed them. As for the American TV shows, Europe and Asia copies them to a T. Ignorance, backwardness, evil and brutality can be found in all countries and at 10 times the rate as that in America.
Futhermore, America has had an imperialistic relationship with the poorer countries, and actually--through CIA and other nefarious outfits--CREATED or supported many of the bloody dictators you speak of.
Among these one may include General Pinochet, the former Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, the Taliban, and even (though this is kept "hush hush") Osame bin Laden,etc. I actually recall SEEING a photo of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein back in the 1080s....back when the Reagn administration was telling us that Saddam (whom American, Europe and Russia armed) was a "moderating influence in the Middle East."
The USA has a certain power to impose itself on others, but one can be backward and do that.
But thinking of American TV and Movies, you will see more American movies abroad than foreign moveis here. But in a way, that supports my thesis. People in other countries have their own movies (which we don't see) as well as ours--which mean they have wider cultural exposure than we do---which is partly why they're less parochial.
Of coure, i do recall that Bill Clinton protest European countries for restricting some American movies with excessive violence.
We're more offended by sex than by violence. They're more offended by violence that by sex. I noticed that even when I was in France.
Sorry. But we really need to raise the cultural and intellectual level of the American public, and not give too much authority to Hollywood.
Also check out a thread called, EUROPE: HOW DO YOU VIEW AMERICANS? Or check out foreign reactions to the Tea Party phenomenon? It may surprise you as well as anger you.
At any rate, what Hollywood does or doesn't do has no relevance regarding the desirability of either black men or women. If you really believe in Hollywood then I will sell you the Chesapeake Bay---at a discount. LOL!
-Savant
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Dramalady09 · 53 weeks ago
There are SOOOOO many more black married couples that have been in love for many years and who are solid!!! I know most of them were mentioned previously but I have to say I am inspired by Bill and Camille Cosby, my pastors Rev Drs. Floyd and Elaine Flake, Samuel Jackson and his wife. Denzel and Pauletta Washington, and Rev Run and Justine. I cannot forget my husband and I who will celebrate 29 years in August. You have to communicate, respect each other, laugh a lot, and trust. It takes work but it can be done.
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The scientific commuhity also rejects this iditic notion that Blacks are genetically predisposed to violent crime. And there are many countries in Africa and Latin America and the Caribbean in which the Black population is proportionately higher than in the US, but in which the violent crime rate is LOWER.
Interestingly enough, the one country in Africa which is just about universally recognized as having a violent crime rate equivalent to America's is South Africa. And it most resembles America in its long history of racial caste oppression---apartheid being even more extreme than our Jim Crow system in America.
Not to mention a RADICAL GAP between haves and have nots which even rivals America's economic gap--and ours is recognized as being one of the most extreme in the industrialized world.
It isn't just poverty, it's alienatiion. Dr. King once described racism as "total estrangement." It is. And when there is radical eestrangement, one can expect almost anything.
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Jan 04, 2010 12:30 PM
If we were to seriously tackle the issues that truly effect our daily lives or have serious discussions on the subject, that would require " action ". And not since the 60's have black people made any effort to tackle the hard core issues of our communities or our lives. That's 50 years of being complacent, quiet and content with the status quo. We've become complacent because we can quietly move around the planet without the JIm Crow laws and the "whites only" signs stopping us....the problem is this.....mentally we're still prohibited from truly embracing what is real and what is black.
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This is a great post, as I have shared the same sentiment with numerous family and friends on various occassions. We spend too much time focusing on entertainment, sports, music, and even life drama. Previous coworkers of mine would rather talk about the drama in a Zane's novel than discuss the severe economic issues of Haiti or even herein us. So then I asked myself a question: What would be the state of our people if a serious state of emergency occurred. Then Katrina occurred and the results were devastating and dishartening. Now I have a new question: With US economy is on the verge of collapse, as many predicted that the collapse is to occur April 2010, and our unemployment remains high, whatwould be our response if a such an event occurs? Reflecting back to the past tells me that our responses have not been so great. Before departing I will leave you with this: we are entering serious times where no one truely knows what is next. Our dollar is facing serious issues, we have an exhausting war in Iraq, Afgan, Pakistan, and now Yemen, and our unemployment remains high. The world is secretly watching America struggling, while we as a subculture are adoring Zane's novels and betting on Labron and Coby. I think we should not only watch but prepare our people so that everyone is onthe same page because an ununited front brings chaos and destruction.
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1 year ago correction:
It makes a BM wonder, "Do the white magazines, ads, shows, movies, and media promote IR dating for white folks as much as they promote it for black folks?
No, they don't. So why are they literally begging us to seek mates outside our race? Because they care about our happiness, even though the powers that be are ignoring our sky-high unemployment and foreclosure rate? So the question is WHY do we trust their motives when we KNOW they do not care about us?
It makes a BM wonder, "Do the white magazines, ads, shows, movies, and media promote IR dating for white folks as much as they promote it for black folks?
No, they don't. So why are they literally begging us to seek mates outside our race? Because they care about our happiness, even though the powers that be are ignoring our sky-high unemployment and foreclosure rate? So the question is WHY do we trust their motives when we KNOW they do not care about us?
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1 year agoAmen, Dyson..
A lot of black folks (who blindly supported him) are in for a rude awakening...
then again, what did black folk ask from Obama while he was running for prez?
"Just stay black, bro, and be the first black, bro."
and that's what we got coming
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A lot of black folks (who blindly supported him) are in for a rude awakening...
then again, what did black folk ask from Obama while he was running for prez?
"Just stay black, bro, and be the first black, bro."
and that's what we got coming
NOTHING
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how ANY BM can agree with the notion that it is NORMAL to get "tired" of an ENTIRE RACE of women (your own race, by the way.) Aren't you judging millions of BW by the relative handful of women you have personally known or met? Let's be real. NO man on this board has personally known even 1/10,000 of all the BW in this country. Aren't GOOD INTELLIGENT MEN supposed to be reasonable and fair? How can we complain about RACISM when we practice it against our own women?
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We are ALL facing the same taxations, leins, woes as EVERYONE else, BUT ALL of us are not feeling some of the burden lifted...It's easy to say 'Go out and do something for yourself and stop whinin"...TOO easier said than done when there are layoffs left and right, I'm glad I went to school BEFORE all of this chaos because my neices/nephews nor my children will have educational/academic grants available like people in my era did...We just want some of that menially put to some kind of organization.
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CaliFemme231 year ago
1 year agoambitious_balla- Now you know I think you say some of the most intelligent, REAL shyt here on BP...But I dont really think that everyone is looking for Obama to literally come to the hood and start writing checks and passing out brand new car keys. People are always saying 'stop looking to Obama for a handout'but yet no one has really said 'hey, Obama should hook me up with a job"...not at all. I think SOME people were looking for Obama to more or less bring cause and effect to THEE PEOPLE who put him in that office in the first place. Had it not been for a record turnout of our black/brown people, along with our younger generation, lets face it, he WOULD NOT have made it in there. And just to speak for myself PERSONALLY, I look for EVERY president to create more for the majority of people who live in this country which are not to affluent or the wealthy...I mean the 'regular joe's' like us. People are just saying "Hey, he bailed out wall street, he let them breathe, so d___, when do WE, the ones that pushed him in there get to exhale??"
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crammasters5 months ago
@ proBlackfist
right on, brother, racist white hollywood eats black folks like Halle for breakfast, then picks its teeth with their bones.
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I'd like to add...
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this sister was raised in confusion (by a white mom, no black father) and she got involved in show business, which is brutal enough for a white person, let alone a black male or female,
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and then she becomes a "star" but is still a N____ in white Hollywood -- even in the eyes of the BM she dated/married who mistreated her,
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and now her entire life (and failures) are on public display, and folks are hating on her like she killed their baby (??)
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i doubt ANY of us would be able to withstand public scrutiny of all OUR romantic failures, and any cheating, adultery, sleeping w married folks, folks of the same sex, threesomes, booty calls, that we have done (and some are still doing)
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after we finish trashing this sister, and picking her bones, maybe, we could have just a little compassion.
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and not forget that Halle didn't do what MOST black folk -- especially us BM -- do when we get a little fame: run out and marry the first white receptionist, stripper, or waitress we can find.
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At least Halle TRIED to make it work with BM AFTER she became famous, so all this animosity over ONE white dude doesn't make any d___ sense.
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We should be relieved that she will be forced to take a good look at this IR BS, since she found out what ALL black-loving black folk knew all along:
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that white people are NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE BLACK MALE/FEMALE RELATIONSHIP PROBLEM.
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@ A_MANI_LOVE who said, "That is why I educate others on selective roll models because what you see may just be a “Follywood/Holly no good production”(Illusion).In short be your own hero because you will be disappointed frequently if you think a lot of these characters/rappers/reality shows/models/sports stars are who they portray in their occupations."
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brother, you said a mouthful, glad to see conscious BM (like yourself) sharing that knowledge. The media is a weapon of mass mind destruction to a sane black mind. It's so bad that they got "entertainers" speaking for black folk on every issue. What the H would I want a comic to speak for me?
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Why would I listen to a BM entertainer (like Steve Harvey) who's trades wives like a kid trading in baseball cards -- tell me about "relationships?"
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think about the message of a "Method Man" who is promoting white supremacy by degrading the natural hair of BW and his own damn hair?
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Look at these entertainers, who would sell their mommas for a chance at a TV show, look at the way they dress, all tatted-up, lives a mess, going in and out of jail (and proud of it), playing with Satanism, etc.
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That's why I DO NOT LET THE TV BABYSIT MY KIDS. They seldom watch TV, and only when I'm watching it, too. And if they see something they don't understand, they ASK ME questions.
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My wife and I read in front of them, we give them a lot of books (that we screen for anti black messages first), we give them puzzles, building block toys, things you can cook, or put together or take apart, chemistry sets, etc.
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Black kids are some of the smartest kids on the planet, they see a lot more than we realize. It is NEVER too early to teach them about racism (like the JEWS DO), but if you sit them in front of the white supremacist TV because you don't want to be bothered with them, don't be surprised when their head gets jacked up and they want to be, act like, and sex white folks and look down on black folks (including folk in their family).
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crammasters5 months ago
@ Real Queen
how are you participating? By MINIMIZING the racism that is happening all around you. That is the same as witnessing CHILD ABUSE then saying "it's not as widespread as you want people to believe it is.."
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now, try to imagine the response of someone fighting child abuse to hear a comment like that. Would that sound like a person who gave a D about child abuse? Of course not. So, by trying to stop child abuse, you have JUST MINIMIZED IT -- which is the same as RE-VICTIMIZING THE VICTIMS who are still suffer and who will suffer in the future. Get it?
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of course you benefit from racism, all white people do when they get preferential treatment in housing, employment, the court system, home and car loans, police protection, faster service, better schools, better health care, need i go on?
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and when white people KNOW this is happening but SAY NOTHING, they are part of the problem. people with conscience do not want to benefit from the mistreatment of other people, and when they are white, and have half-black children and STILL SAY NOTHING, that is the same as NOT LOVING YOUR CHILDREN.
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i would do or say anything, fight anybody, and give up anything to make sure my kids are NOT MISTREATED, and any white person with a non-white child who does not understand the importance of fighting racism (instead of denying it is widespread) is -- in my opinion -- not a loving parent.
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I will keep u in mind and let you know when the book is available and will announce it on my page. check out my website (the link is in my personal message and sign the email list) and you will be sure to be notified.
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crammasters5 months ago
@ Real Queen
Thanks for proving my point by
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#1 - comparing RACISM with eating at a Chinese restaurant...
#2 - for PRETENDING that your white father looks like your Black,dark-skinned husband (but I bet a white cop won't mistake your husband for a white man)
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# 3 -- for saying "racism is nowhere near as widespread as you would like people to believe.." (which means either one of two things: either you are blind to the world around you (i doubt that) OR you are playing the TYPICAL WHITE DENIAL GAME of trying to convince the black victims of racism that they are not being victimized)-- which is the same as "ignoring it"
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#4 -- for pretending that I am talking about slavery when I talk about racism. And just for you info, it doesn't matter if YOU owned slaves, what matters is white people AND THEIR DESCENDANTS (including you) all benefited from 400 years of free labor, which made this nation rich. And whether your ancestors owned slaves, they STILL PARTICIPATED AS WHITE PEOPLE in the oppression of black people AFTER slavery, so that "I never owned slaves" con game doesn't fly here.
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#5 -- for proving that whenever black people speak TRUTH about racism, they're accused of "hating" which is another form of PRACTICING RACISM.
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so, let me explain what "hate" is. It is shooting an unarmed black man 51 times. It is refusing to rent an apartment to a black family. It is refusing to allow a man to work and feed his family because he is black. It is lynching a young black man from a tree in Mississippi in DECEMBER 2010. It is shoving a stick up a black man's rectum while in police custody (Abner Louima). It is allowing black men, women and children to sit on a roof for FOUR DAYS without rescuing them during Hurricane Katrina in Oct 2005. It is tormenting other human beings for being the "wrong" color. It is spitting on black schoolchildren who are trying to integrate a school. I have never dropped an atomic bomb on a human population. THAT IS HATE.
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Since i have NEVER harmed a single white person, have never cursed or spit on a white child, never stopped a white person from working, or living or getting an education wherever they wanted to get one, I am NOT guilty of HATING ANYONE.
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regarding your dying genetics -- white people are experiencing an INFERTILITY RATE all over the planet, meaning MORE white people die than are born (google it). Whites breeding with other whites is WHY your genetics are failing, and explains why whites are feverishly breeding with non-whites and blacks in particular because blacks are the most FERTILE people on the planet. Google 'Global White Population to Plummet to Single Digit -- Black Population to Double -- National Policy Institute Report
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so whites breeding with whites is a zero-zero solution to reversing white infertility BUT getting pregnant by black males IS...
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sorry, but white people's "history" of victimizing non-whites did NOT end with slavery, but that's up to you. MY mission is to inform and motivate black people, not to debate with whites who know nothing about black history even while breeding half-black children
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Thanks for responding, this has been very constructive, so much so that I plan on including excerpts of your post in our next book, due out this month.
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Your response is a PERFECT example of why blacks should not date or marry whites -- if they want to stop being victimized by racism because white people will NEVER ADMIT THE TRUTH ABOUT RACISM which means they have NO INTENTION OF STOPPING THE PRACTICE -- even when the black people they (so-called) love are being victimized by it.
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crammasters5 months ago
@ ohdrama
i heard that, sis, I got tons of emails and notes from BM and BW from the U.S, all the way to the UK, who say they found out their white "partner" was a racist. A BM friend told me he sees these white boys (he lives in Oklahoma) date BW and dog them out in public.
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Another BM from the UK said a lot of these white females are quick to call a BM a N-word and after the breakup will teach their (half)white kids to hate the black father.
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do not understand WHY black folk act like sex with racist white folk is "something new"...why? because white Hollywood made a movie by that name? How "new" can it be when BW and BM were raped by whites during 400 years of slavery? How can it be "new" when black folk in the U.S. come in so many colors? I mean, like, let's keep this S real...
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one last thing, why the H is everybody acting brand new, like MOST of us have not had one jacked up relationship after another? How many folks on this thread are still with the same man or woman they were with TEN years ago? How many got kids with a person right now they can't stand?
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Because Halle is a "star" that means she's not human like the rest of us? Are some of us secretly glad she broke up with that white male? Hell, i'm happy az hell, she saw the other side of him.
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i agree with u, sis, that she does not have much luck in relationships, but I'm not assuming it's all her fault. Check it, the white media will paint her as the villain because the white media will NEVER let it look like the white male was the dog in that pack...
ig ups to you crammasters; you said it best. I don’t know how many times that I heard a w/w call a b/m the N word out of anger or out of endearment so to get upset about him calling her that is a waste of time because basically it is what it is. Maybe Halle just doesn’t fare well in relationships and need to step back and work on herself before entering into anymore relationships.
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crammasters5 months ago
@ lamont
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brother, we got to be fair about this, Halle didn't become famous and drop BM for a white male, unlike a lot of BM who, as soon as soon as we make it, we dump the black wife and deal white or Asian exclusively.
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Halle didn't do that, she had TWO black husbands before she hooked up with this white male, and remember, she DIDN'T MARRY HIM, and lose half her money, the way so many of us BM do.
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Halle never said BM "ain't no good" Halle does not represent all BW, or all unmarried "baby-mommas" so it makes no sense to turn this into a condemnation of BW or BM or baby mommas and baby daddies, or child support issues
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I hated to see her hook up with a white male, but hell, she's not my woman, so i don't invest a lot of anger or animosity in any of this.
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I think it's a learning moment, with all the IR being pushed at black folk, to see that white people are NOT THE SOLUTION to our black relationship problems. What we need to do is learn our history in this nation AND understand why we are battling each other even while racism is devastating our lives.
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Once we understood the forces that have driven the BM/BW apart over the last 500 years, we would stop fighting each other and start FIGHTING THE POWER THAT OPPRESSES US.
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You sound like a troll.
You say all this but the bw on here like carol, dreams, abyssenianlady, and other really don't care for you.
you clearly need to expand your horizon. This is not about some supremacy, but the truth.
And stop lying educated bm are ridiculed by bw who prefer thugs and bad boys. We all know it and you are just lying. Tim just reaffirmed what i'm saying.
You must be a bw!
I am a 100 percent black man. Yes, there are brothers that don't romantically deal with WW.
Also, why are you concerned about Carol's, the dreams', and other BW views when you hate BW. That doesn't make sense. Also, these women have the right to express their views. Many of their views are quite accurate on the situation in the black community. It's not a big deal. A real man can stand legitimate critiques and strong debate.
This is precisely about supremacy because you want BM to end their love for BW. This ruins the black communities since more Black unity among both genders is necessary to continue the black culture plus black families. That is common sense. Also, you are not doing us brothers any favors by inspiring us to ending our alleigance to black sisters. That's sick and plain borderline eugenics. I will expand my horizon to embrace more truth and tolerance, but not laying up with a white woman to prove my worth. I don't need to lay up with a WW to prove my black cultural heritage. I prove it by appreciating my identity, learning my identity, treating people with respect, and standing up for just causes to improve the conditions of my own black people.
I'm telling the truth. I know tons of sweet, intelligent black sisters that treat a black dude respected regardless if the man is educated or not. I'm educated and sisters treat me with respect all of the time in VA. We in VA know how to understand females. That's a part of our DNA. Most black women don't prefer thugs or "bad boys." The vast majority of black women just want a man to take care of business with confidence and strength. Many of these thugs are in jail making up even not a majority of black men. You disrespecting black women is a bash on black men since black men come from black women.
If you're right, why didn't black women reject Bill Cosby, Smokie Robinson, many of my relatives, Barack Obama, Donovan McNabb, Malcolm Jamal Warner, Dr. Carson, and other brothers like that. These are smart brothers (not thugs or bad boys), yet they have fruitful relations with black women. So, this example refutes your argument. Also, many brothers who suffer ridicule (which is wrong of course) suffer low self esteem issues or social problem issues (not because all BW are mean spirited). I'm not lying. The stats are there and confidence will always trump intimidation. Also, WM suffer bullying, but most of these WM (like Bill Gates) don't go around blaming WW for his romantic issues. He married a white woman to promote his own self interests. The solution to that issue is to allow the low self esteem black men to have confidence building techniques in order to enrich their own personal lives without stereotyping every black woman in some box.
-By Timothy (Me)
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That told her! lol
Also, tons of good black men are with good black women without thinking about IR at all. If IR were all that, why are some of these couples constantly trying to validate their social existence in public and on the Net.
Now, that's a real question.
-WandaLouise
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Lol!Sometimes, you don't even get the so-called good men. You get the outcast blacks (whether the person is good or bad). I have respect for the outcasts (as all men are created equal and deserve dignity), but I have to keep it real.
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I agree with you, tim and every other ir dater need to get it together and stop whining. Stop showing white people how obsessed we blacks are them and stop giving them a reason to laugh at us.Tim from Evanston, you're an idiot, why because you come to the AA forum to share your personal relationship with people that could care less about who and what you do in your sex life. And whether or not ww are racist is irrelevant to me because white waters down our race. PERIOD. As for bw not treating you good and ww treating you better, nobody is telling you to not date white women. But stop whining about bw. This is what I tell irbw, stop whining about bm. You all are a bunch of cry babies that feel no shame in disrespecting your race. So a black woman didn't want you, life goes on. But stop proving to racist whites that blacks possess a lower IQ and that you all see them as the standard of beauty. Develop some pride about yourself and stop behaving like a female. This behavior you display is not a masculine trait, but that of an emotional being. Get it together lil dude.
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I do agree that there are self hating black men out there who flaunt white women in our faces but thats just a minority group. Black men still do love black women, the ones who dont let them breed out and we dont have to worry about and their selfhatred anymore. Im not trying to pick a fight with black women if you date non black men and not bash black men in the process I have no problem with you. This thread was created for the ir black men who come here and bash too. I know black women are fed up I would be too but I found a good black man so I still believe there is hope.
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I made this response to the racist WW Blondie that wants brothers like us to go out with WW while demonizing BW. That will never happen to me. Here are my words:
Why are you concern with us brothers' dating choices.
It's time to step one step back. We came from BW, so you obviously disrespect us brothers every thing you slander black women. Also, I know your type. You spit the same lie. You try to divide and conquer the black community covertly (since disrupting BW and BM being unified will damage the overall black community). Also, not all black women are monolithic. Tons of black women (here in the states and abroad) are sweet, nice, have ecceltic taste, respect black men, and are tolerable to deal with. So, brothers like us aren't taking your bait to run out on our people for some fetish. I will never fold. Also, why are you targeting BM? We know the reason. The reason is that you want control.
You want control over us since you're trying to dictate who we BM love. There is a newsflash, you will never control me or the real brothers loving black women. You can never use mental slavery tactics in order to manipulate and lie about Nubian sisters since I know tons of black women (beyond my relatives) that are strong, nice, sensitive, respectable, and possess a huge amount of character. How does it make me look like to demonize women who are a part of mother, relatives, co-workers, and other allies. It doesn't make sense. It does make sense to promote more black families, black babies, and Black Power to overrun white supremacy.
White supremacy is the old enemy that teaches the lie that white women are superior. That is your subtle implication and your subtle view. The truth is that you white women aren't superior to Black Sisters (with their beautiful dark skin complexion and their great stength). A strong man needs a strong woman not some doormat utilized a sexual toy. I don't need some Cinderella sex toy. Tiger, Toomer, and Tiki learned the hard way. I want a real black woman with real independent strength. A real man likes strength and independence in a woman. Black woman exempflies totally those characteristics. Also, more black people are waking up to your mind games. The Black Unity movement is gaining stem in the past 2-3 years. You can't stop that train.
Also, tons of good black men are with good black women without thinking about IR at all. If IR were all that, why are some of these couples constantly trying to validate their social existence in public and on the Net.
Now, that's a real question.
-By Timothy
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LOL!
Well, when MAMA is happy, everybody in the house HAPPY!
....But, seriously, in a relationship, I know how to let a man be a man.
I have no respect for a hen-pecked man.
In a relationship, I take care of and respect my man and I expect the same in return.
I once broke up with a guy because he was so WIMPY and CLINGY....He was trying to BUY my affection....I didn't ask him for a thing and this dude would go buy me something he HEARD me say that I liked! :10500: And I was like, "I wasn't throwing no HINTS, dude!"
When I broke up with him, I tried to let him down easy by telling him that not ALL women were like ME....and that if he continued that behavior, some woman, somewhere, was gonna take advantage of him.
If I had that kinda heart, I coulda took him hard and fast!
I mean, this guy was acting like this and he hadn't even got "the goods" yet!
He musta woulda lost his mind if I'd had sex with him!
He actually told a mutual friend of ours (and the friend told ME) that he had PRAYED to get me!
Now, as beautiful as that sounds, it was his behavior that turned me off.
Yeah, it's a sad day when one rich Black man will haggle in court to REDUCE child-support payments cuz that's just TOO MUCH MONEY to give a "Baby Mama."
(Diddy)
But, another rich Black man will give his non-Black wife a $4 million ring when his adultery landed him a rape charge.
(Kobe)
And now, yet another rich Black man, for his adulterous affairs, will (allegedly) offer $60 million dollars to his White wife to stay with him for a minimum of 2 more years in marriage.
-cherryblossom
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The notion of decent black men doesn't need to be redefined. If a BM or a BW stays in the sidelines and doesn't do a thing to solve problems among their own people, they aren't decent to begin with. Most people have always agreed with that for a long time.
It's that certain people use that reality (of some black people being co-conspirators to the ills in our community) as an excuse to demonize all BM (and BW too) in a slick fashion. If one thing needs to be redefined or eliminated is the stereotypes made against any black persons (both males and females) doing the right thing as being soft or weak. That stereotype should be scrapped. Evil black men are a problem, but it's more than them. Historically, many BM caught up in a bad lifestyle have changed their lives and developed into righteous people just like tons of BW doing the right thing.
It's a system that promotes corporate corruption, economic disparities, and other damaging influences in our community. I believe in personal responsibility like the next man, but not personal denial of corporate evils in the world that contribute to the evils in Western society. If you want things solves, you have to be comprehensive in dealing with building up self confidence among outcasts & the poor, creating radical programs, protesting, and working toward more dialogue so solutions can be made.
Without black men and black women uniting in trying to find solutions, nothing changes.
Certain people (especially among sellout blacks that don't want to deal with their own people or have hatred agaisnt BM or BW) want permanent tensions among BM and BW in order for the status quo to remain.
We should end tensions and develop real resolutions (like gang intervention, promotion of health & fitness, programs to fight against violence, creating avenues to develop intellectual pursuits, promote real forms of the arts & music among our own people, develop financial security and assistance toward our own people, create radical acts now to fight back against evil, and have outlets for blacks especially with ecclectic tastes to feel at home with tolerance) in our lives for the the sake of our ancestors.
-By Timothy
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Well, I think in the past, we have. I mean, we look at the legacy of Frederick Douglass and Ida B. Wells and Ella Baker, Malcolm X and Martin King. We have, and part of the struggle now in the age of Obama is how do we keep alive the legacy of Martin King?
I know my dear brother, President Obama, has a bust of Martin King right there in the Oval Office, but the question is are is he going to be true to who that Martin Luther King, Jr., actually is? King was concerned about what? The poor. He was concerned about working people. He was concerned about quality jobs. He was concerned about quality housing. He was concerned about precious babies in Vietnam, the way we ought to be concerned about precious babies in Afghanistan and precious babies in Tel Aviv and precious babies in Gaza.
Martin King was fundamentally committed to the least of these. Of course, he was a Christian soldier for justice from the 25th chapter of Matthew.
And so more and more black folk tend to be well-adjusted to Obama’s presidency, but does that mean they’re well-adjusted to injustice? Because we don’t hear our president talking about the new Jim Crow, the prison-industrial complex.
-Cornel West
Well, I’ll tell you, I had not talked to my dear brother since the Martin Luther King gathering in South Carolina, and very briefly Super Tuesday. But he did come and make a beeline to me after his speech on I think it was Thursday morning in Washington, D.C. I hadn’t seen him for two and a half weeks, and he made a beeline to me, though, brother, and he was deeply upset. He talked to me like I was a Cub Scout, and he was a pack master, you know what I mean?
I said, well, my mother and father raised me right. I respect my dear brother, but I don’t like to be demeaned and humiliated in that way, and I didn’t get a chance to respond to him. And I hope maybe at some time we can. But it was very, it was a very ugly kind of moment, it seems to me, and that disturbs me because then it raises the question for me: Does he have a double standard for black critics as opposed to white critics?
-Cornel West
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LOL@ "whites were never slaves"!... Who the hell taught you history?... I would ask for a refund!
no, because of 2 reasons: 1)whites were never slaves, so had nothing to historically overcome
LOL@ this dude with his home made theories on white drug user numbers, well, here is the real deal...
and whites with addiction problems is a much smaller number than blacks.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000-06-08...
"Five times as many whites use drugs as blacks," said Jamie Fellner, a staff lawyer who wrote the report for the group, a New York-based organization that monitors human rights worldwide. "But blacks comprise the great majority of drug offenders sent to prison. Race is clearly a factor in the process."
Thats right, five times more whites use drugs than blacks, but more blacks are imprisoned for it!...Hmmm, strange!
Everyone's an expert on being black these days, let's all focus on negative black statistics as it hides the negative statistics of your own races, like the High level of serial killers, suicides amongst white men, extremely high number of pedophiles, highest divorce rate, sky high rate of drug users, massive rate of fraud and company fraud, lowest level of childbirth, highest level of infertility, highest number of stress related illnesses, and so on and on.....
being black in america is a struggle today but nowadays its largely a self-struggle as opposed to during slavery times when it was a struggle for civil freedom. 2) it also has to do with the negative statistics today which dominate black communities in america.
...But yet everyone wants to focus on "black statistics", clean-up your own backyards first, then you can talk about our negatives!
We are all slaves to the system now, you included, but what we blacks have fought for over the years is the right for black nationalism and self reliance, something which you people have always had a problem with and have fought hard to stop it from happening, the reason many black communities are in the state they are in today is "DIRECTLY" because of this white CIA/FBI interference when blacks were forming themselves and their communities into self governing, self-reliant, political-units.... so we are not interested in your theories on our communities...
its still a struggle and suffering but now its internal and is expressed by the unfortunate black statistics we see today. a lot has been written on this recently by black writers, its not my idea. google post traumatic slave syndrome.
Most of us could actually care less about your statistics, most white people actually either make-up their own statistics (as shown above with your "Blacks have a bigger drug problem than whites" nonsense or you doctor them to make your race look good.
in the past it was about getting freedom, and today its about getting freedom from the statistics
-The Revolutionist
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crammasters
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Now come on, stop telling "porkies", Blacks did fight in the American Revolution so that they would be freed, many black men gave up their lives for America while they fought the Brits in order that their families could be freed one day, I suggest you go and re-learn history from scratch!
actually a white guy named Lincoln freed you. If it wasnt for him you wouldnt have been free when you were. he didnt free you out of human rights, he did it to win the civil war because the entire economy of the south was based on cotton. free the slaves and you will win the war.
First of all, as slaves, most had no rights to own property or land, no rights to be educated, no rights to congregate in groups, could not move around freely, could not vote, could not knock seven bells out of a white man, could not live in white areas, could not marry whites, could be tried and hung by mobs, could not take part in normal society, could not own weapons, could not decide for them self what they did with their own life, could not work and demand pay, and so on... Yet somehow blacks are better off as slaves!... lmao.
sadly, 150 years after being freed as slaves, many black americans today arent actually better off . not all slaves were treated badly.
This is one of the most ignorant statements on this forum to date... Do black Americans look like they are starving or have no running water or shelter?... And slaves were not treated well, they were treated like slaves!!!....
many of them were treated quite well and were even instrumental in keeping the households running. many had food, shelter, and all the amenities. but for some reason its not allowed to talk about the slaves who were treated well,
-The Revolutionist
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Lol, what he really wanted to say was, "THEY" were better off when they had slaves!...
He/she is an idiot and it can not be sugar coated. i tell you what it's over for blacks if she ever worked for the Census lmbao she'd switch up everything. Wow. Only a white person could say something like "better off as slaves"
I would rather be a freeman living on the streets than be a slave for a Billionaire and being degraded by him everyday.
If the white man thinks a slave can be better off than a freeman it actually explains a lot about them.
I even had a conversation on this forum with a white dude who said "Many Native Indians had needed to be killed"!!!...
They see nothing wrong with committing genocide against Native Indians, stealing their CONTINENT or enslaving Millions, but they are quick to label blacks the most evil and vile race for being petty street criminals... The drug problem is caused by blacks even though they outnumber us greatly concerning drug use, plus, since when were black people harvesting opium and shipping it throughout the world?...
Do you see the mentality we are dealing with here bro, do you see why some of us call them the Devil?
-The Revolutionist
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Absolutely amazing...
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so many black folks defending a man (Obama) who won't even MENTION the black community by name. Won't talk about racism, won't talk about the black farmers he promised to help during his campaign, won't hold "town hall meetings" in black areas, won't talk about black CHILDREN being murdered a mile from his Chicago Hyde Park home, boycotted the UN Conference on Racism, won't talk to the black press,
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YET he attends Hispanic Chamber of Commerce meetings, goes to the Latino music festival, promises Hispanics -- in person -- that he will address their "immigration" concerns; goes to Jewish meetings, host a Jewish "seder" at the White House, promises the Jewish community that he supports Israel; and he holds town hall meetings in white areas, shows up at the shopping mall to meet and greet white folks, tells white folks that he will "address their concerns" and invites a racist white cop to the white house to have a beer after he arrested a black man (Prof Gates) in his own house to show there's no hard feelings (which is the same as Obama apologizing to the white cop who did the wrong thing.
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YET none of those communities are defending him. It's US, the black and forgotten stepchildren who have never received an invitation to the "president's ball" who REFUSE to look at the facts:
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OBAMA is NOT talking to OR about black people after almost TWO YEARS in office.
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There is NO GREATER sign of SELF-DISRESPECT than a race of people who do not know and do not CARE when they are being disrespected AND ignored as long as they can celebrate another "black first" that was created by the same white system that has ignored us for decades...---
...and it is evidence of a SLAVE MENTALITY that still has a hold on blacks who are still waiting for the "white man" to give us the nod as to which black man we should admire...
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The difference between a conversation between AVERAGE Black persons and betwen AVERAGE white persons is merely DIFFERENT ethnic versions of slang and non-Standard English.
The MASSES of the people--black, white, or what have you--don't speak "standard Engish." It ia mainly due to racial biases that such a big deal is made out of the way the BLACK masses speak.
But white hillbillies, ordinary white working class stiffs DO NOT speak "proper" English any more than do black working class stiffs.
-Savant
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Note by Me: I don't think Carol is the B word, but it is what is.
By Timothy
Highest30
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BINGO!
I think whites actually have lower standards for their own people without even realising it...!
I have told people on this forum, on more than one occasion, about the times when, as a child, my mother was called up to the school and reprimanded by the teachers as my reading age was "far too advanced for a child of five" and that she must refrain from giving me lessons at home as it was "unfair on the other children". Now bear in mind that I was the only black child in my class, and there was another girl whose parents were both teachers, who also had an advanced reading age, yet her parents were not called up to the school about it!!
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That is true it shouldn't be used as a crutch for failure, but I, unlike many blacks, will never let a white fool tell me that our people were better off during enslavement or that we haven't achieved much since slavery,(WTF) that to me is another form of brainwashing to convince you that you are an inferior species who needs to be owned and controlled before we can achieve anything.Very interesting and legitimate points you make and I agree. However,though we should remember our past we shouln't use the past as a crutch as an excuse for poor behavior and laxk of accomplishment today.
So it would make sense to find out why has marriage fallen out of favour with our people, in the west (Africans do not have this problem) then deal with those issues from there onwards!... If you go digging into history concerning the break-up of the "westernised" black family, you may find something you never would of expected!..
Back in the day during the civil rights struggle,there was an almost 80 percent rate of marriage among the black race. Today that trend has reversed itself as today almost 80 percent of black kids ar born to unwed parents. Black fathers and mothers having kids out of wedlock at an alarmign rate and the black fathers basically abandoning their kids.
I'm afraid the only way we are going to solve these problems is by looking into the past and seeing where these things went wrong originally and then rectify them, no matter how much blacks want to forget the past, nobody is going to let you forget it and they are constantly using your past against you.
There is no excuse for this behavior among the black race. Back in the day it was taboo and shameful if a woman got pregnant and was unmarried. Today it is treated almost as a badge of honor for a black woman to have several kids out of wedlock and all the kids have different fathers.
Eventually this type of bad behavior too becomes a part of our history. Is this something the black race wishes to look on and remember while we are remembering our past?
So yes. Remember our past but lets not use it as an excuse to continue to behave badly and perform so poorly as the race tends to do today.
You are generally treated as the lowest form of life on this planet because of your past, there is institutional racism happening today, directly linked to our past, you do not have your rightful name, you own no land or wealth, your true culture and language is lost or unknown to you, all because of your past, you can never get away from it as a black man.
When a diagnosis of an illness is made, we then have to find out what caused the illness (what is at the root of the problem) or you can never ever treat the patient effectively!... The same with psychiatrists, who have to get to the root of a problem before they can even begin to treat a patient!
You should understand this perfectly!
-The Revolutionist
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There was two kinds of slaves. There was the house Negro and the field Negro. The house Negroes — they lived in the house with master, they dressed pretty good, they ate good ’cause they ate his food —— what he left. They lived in the attic or the basement, but still they lived near the master; and they loved their master more than the master loved himself. They would give their life to save the master’s house quicker than the master would. The house Negro, if the master said, "We got a good house here," the house Negro would say, "Yeah, we got a good house here." Whenever the master said "we," he said "we." That’s how you can tell a house Negro.
If the master’s house caught on fire, the house Negro would fight harder to put the blaze out than the master would. If the master got sick, the house Negro would say, "What’s the matter, boss, we sick?" We sick! He identified himself with his master more than his master identified with himself. And if you came to the house Negro and said, "Let’s run away, let’s escape, let’s separate," the house Negro would look at you and say, "Man, you crazy. What you mean, separate? Where is there a better house than this? Where can I wear better clothes than this? Where can I eat better food than this?" That was that house Negro. In those days he was called a "house n****." And that’s what we call him today, because we’ve still got some house n**** running around here.
This modern house Negro loves his master. He wants to live near him. He’ll pay three times as much as the house is worth just to live near his master, and then brag about "I’m the only Negro out here." "I’m the only one on my job." "I’m the only one in this school." You’re nothing but a house Negro. And if someone comes to you right now and says, "Let’s separate," you say the same thing that the house Negro said on the plantation. "What you mean, separate? From America? This good white man? Where you going to get a better job than you get here?" I mean, this is what you say. "I ain’t left nothing in Africa," that’s what you say. Why, you left your mind in Africa.
Malcolm X
He understood....lol.... and explained the mindset of the pathetic house negroes we have roaming and dividing our community still today!
Thats the white power in black face....lol!!
BAPF!
-216 Elite
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Here the Moor refutes the sellouts:
*IT'S SAD WHEN A MAN HAS TO DO SHIT LIKE THIS JUST TO GET THE ATTENTION OF THE WOMEN OF HIS OWN RACE....DAYUM...NOW THAT'S PRETTY BAD....
THEN AGAIN...IF IT WERE LIKE THAT FOR ME I GUESS I WOULD DO SOME PRETTY WEAK SHIT TO GET THEIR ATTENTION AS WELL....
IT'S JUST SO DAMN PATHETIC!
*WORSHIPPING WHITE WOMEN THAT MOST LIKELY NOT EVEN GIVE THEM THE TIME OF DAY!..OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WHOLE EXISTENCE!
SILLY ASS NEGROS....JUST HAVE NO CONCERN FOR HOW MUCH OF A FOOL THEY MAKE OF THEMSELVES...NONE!
THEN AGAIN...IF IT WERE LIKE THAT FOR ME I GUESS I WOULD DO SOME PRETTY WEAK SHIT TO GET THEIR ATTENTION AS WELL....
IT'S JUST SO DAMN PATHETIC!
*WORSHIPPING WHITE WOMEN THAT MOST LIKELY NOT EVEN GIVE THEM THE TIME OF DAY!..OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR WHOLE EXISTENCE!
SILLY ASS NEGROS....JUST HAVE NO CONCERN FOR HOW MUCH OF A FOOL THEY MAKE OF THEMSELVES...NONE!
-The Moor
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We need to get hold of our black politicians, or positive influential black people to get involved in demanding these stations show a better image of our people, those big names could make a lot of changes if they were trying, we should start a worldwide boycott of negativity in the black community, for instant rappers who rap a load of nonsense or artists that preach filth to our kids, people amongst us who sell "HARD" drugs in our community should not be tolerated by us.
Wow very intelligent comment but how could the black race reach the black community, black television are letting us down in media coverage of these problems. We need a black news station.
Those who deal in gangs and guns have to be dealt with also, they are not needed anymore and are a nuisance to our societies!
They are destructive elements that do massive damage in our communities and we need to be shot of them ASAP, we should also encourage and reward intelligence, parenthood, and black marriages.
These things will help counteract the mind wars that are being waged against our people, we need to actively combat the white system that is encouraging these elements to thrive amongst us, rather than us just letting them happen all around us!
Our culture is "rotten" to the core, and needs an overhaul.
-The Revolutionist
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What makes it laughable is that socialist is not a racial designation, but a politial one....and has more to do with CLASS issues than race or ethnicity.
True in that it probably wasn't the appropriate term.
You have a point re what we consider to be "socialist". I had to laugh during the last election when I heard that people were stating that "socialist" was some code word for Black when the noted socialists were White men of European descent.
What has Europeans scratching their heads with puzzlement is the labeling a a centrist politician like Obama as "socialist." In countries where a significant number of ACTUAL socialists exist, and are even in the government, the socialist label for Obama, or for Democrats in general, is considered laughable.
-Savant
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crammasters
Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL
Posted March 19, 2010
@ 1-LL
I saw it before someplace, too
when i got the email from my partner I cracked up,
I knew I had to share this
I hope all y'all send this to or print it up for the young'uns to put some knowledge on their brains to neutralize all this media crack (lies) they're being fed
If black folk only knew WHO we were (and I just don't mean the same old tired factoids during Black History Month --
I'm talking about the REAL DOPE, going back thousands of years, and the truth about our history here, and how the wealth of America AND Europe was made on the backs of African slavery... and the kind of MIND CON GAMES that are being played on every conceivable level
we could turn ourselves around OVERNIGHT, 1-LL...
no joke
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lol
BAPF!
-216 Elite
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Why did their governments destroy black nationalism, why did their governments launch operations to counter black leaders?... the answer to these questions have been answered many times by their governments, the FBI/CIA mandates were clear in their explanations as to why they were doing certain things, they stated that "Militant blacks", were a threat to the country they are in! Simple... This is not an "excuse", it is a VALID EXPLANATION which blacks must look into before they can really move forward economically,
Which is why they bombed places like "Black wall Street" and other thriving black communities!... They tell us that we can be whatever we want to be individually (individual success) but the minute that you become a strong voice for your people, you are in trouble with them and then discredited.
They also have a habit of encouraging IRR amongst successful blacks which enables the money to filter back into their communities especially that successful blacks tend to move into white areas, some with white partners.
Again the system is set-up in such a way as to discourage black unity and self reliance at every angle and no one can deny it!... Even when they pretend to be helping us if you scratch the surface you will find that there is always a catch or something put in place to impede the success!
Individually we can better ourselves, but we will still be viewed as "bottom of the pile" until we have achieved self reliance and Non-dependence on whites!
-The Revolutionist
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@ WMsHURRICANEW who said, "REAL LOVE SEES NO COLOR!"
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i could swallow that except most of the IR-loving folk i have seen go from one black or white person to the next, they will refuse to date their own race, so how is that "color-blind?" Makes no sense to pretend we can't see color unless you're blind...
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you may not give a "frogg" about melanin but black folk have been murdered, lynched and enslaved because of it, so it's a big deal to US.
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In addition, scientists have discovered that melanin is found in every brain cell, that it makes organs stronger, that it is responsible for the early motor development of black babies who walk and talk sooner than white or Asian babies, and it accounts for fewer neurological diseases than those with less melanin (white folk), and is responsible for the age-resistant skin of darker skinned folks versus the skin of whiter folks who age faster.
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it may also account for African women being the most FERTILE women on the planet while European/white females are the LEAST FERTILE women -- which is evident by all the fertility drugs, sperm banks, in-vitro and test tube babies, sperm donors, Indian and African females "renting" out their wombs to carry the fetuses of white females who cannot carry babies to them and the adoption mills for WW who cannot have children of their own
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so, i would say MELANIN is a big deal to most of the white world...
-crammasters
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crammasters5 months ago
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crammasters5 months ago
I saw it before someplace, too
when i got the email from my partner I cracked up,
I knew I had to share this
I hope all y'all send this to or print it up for the young'uns to put some knowledge on their brains to neutralize all this media crack (lies) they're being fed
If black folk only knew WHO we were (and I just don't mean the same old tired factoids during Black History Month --
I'm talking about the REAL DOPE, going back thousands of years, and the truth about our history here, and how the wealth of America AND Europe was made on the backs of African slavery... and the kind of MIND CON GAMES that are being played on every conceivable level
we could turn ourselves around OVERNIGHT, 1-LL...
no joke
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Don't waste your time with these fools.....They'll prefer to believe in their fantasy of "personal responsibility", and use that as their defense shield against the truth....when they have none whatsoever, towards the very savage actions of themselves throughout history and today!Stop the lies. The banks were not forced to do anything. They did it with the full knowledge there was no risk involved. They did it because they could. They were greedy and you know it. You should be outraged at what the banks did. If you are a working-class person like myself, you would be outraged because my tax dollars bailed the bastards out and then they turn around and claim profits now with our money? wake up, your assessment is misdirected.
lol
BAPF!
-216 Elite
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When a white person types crap on an internet forum regarding blacks being dependent on them because "we cannot look after ourselves", that should tell you instantly that they are more than likely to be a white person that doesn't know much about his own history let alone ours.
And this is the truth but then white racists and some less informed blacks say that we haven't tried, or were dependent on whites,
Why did their governments destroy black nationalism, why did their governments launch operations to counter black leaders?... the answer to these questions have been answered many times by their governments, the FBI/CIA mandates were clear in their explanations as to why they were doing certain things, they stated that "Militant blacks", were a threat to the country they are in! Simple... This is not an "excuse", it is a VALID EXPLANATION which blacks must look into before they can really move forward economically,
Whichever way we look at it, black people are progressing, we are still behind but 100 years ago we had even less than we had now... We must stop listening and taking orders from whitey who are not trying to help us back onto our feet, why would they?... They are already threatened by us just walking down the street, imagine us as a powerful economical force in their countries, do you think they could cope with this?, No, that is why there are systems in place to trip us up if we even approached this kind of self reliance... White people think that blacks would enslave them if we were in their position, so they have no choice but to keep us dependant on them/needing them.
were making excuses to not progress, were incapable of progression, forget the past. It's mind boggling that they call the truth excuses i can understand whites saying these things because they will never understand, but blacks need to wake up and smell the coffee, we have to protect our businesses from these negative outside influences. In America black progression is frowned upon.
Which is why they bombed places like "Black wall Street" and other thriving black communities!... They tell us that we can be whatever we want to be individually (individual success) but the minute that you become a strong voice for your people, you are in trouble with them and then discredited.
They also have a habit of encouraging IRR amongst successful blacks which enables the money to filter back into their communities especially that successful blacks tend to move into white areas, some with white partners.
Again the system is set-up in such a way as to discourage black unity and self reliance at every angle and no one can deny it!... Even when they pretend to be helping us if you scratch the surface you will find that there is always a catch or something put in place to impede the success!
Individually we can better ourselves, but we will still be viewed as "bottom of the pile" until we have achieved self reliance and Non-dependence on whites!
-The Revolutionist
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@ WMsHURRICANEW who said, "REAL LOVE SEES NO COLOR!"
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i could swallow that except most of the IR-loving folk i have seen go from one black or white person to the next, they will refuse to date their own race, so how is that "color-blind?" Makes no sense to pretend we can't see color unless you're blind...
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you may not give a "frogg" about melanin but black folk have been murdered, lynched and enslaved because of it, so it's a big deal to US.
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In addition, scientists have discovered that melanin is found in every brain cell, that it makes organs stronger, that it is responsible for the early motor development of black babies who walk and talk sooner than white or Asian babies, and it accounts for fewer neurological diseases than those with less melanin (white folk), and is responsible for the age-resistant skin of darker skinned folks versus the skin of whiter folks who age faster.
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it may also account for African women being the most FERTILE women on the planet while European/white females are the LEAST FERTILE women -- which is evident by all the fertility drugs, sperm banks, in-vitro and test tube babies, sperm donors, Indian and African females "renting" out their wombs to carry the fetuses of white females who cannot carry babies to them and the adoption mills for WW who cannot have children of their own
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so, i would say MELANIN is a big deal to most of the white world...
-crammasters
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crammasters
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crammasters
5 months ago@ A_MANI_LOVE
brother, I was puzzled by her post, too, and her ethnicity. Didn't bother to check her page but I wouldn't be surprised if what you said was correct.
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it never fails to amaze me why so many white folk who don't like black folk seem to gravitate to black websites, as though they have to keep tabs on what we are saying and doing.
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Their mentality reminds me of that niccolo machiavelli saying:
keep your friends close
and your enemies closer
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1) In your daily lives, you all are afraid of black people, we see it all the time, you have all claimed that we are very aggressive and naturally prone to being violent... You are here to gather information on black psychology, what makes us tick, what subjects we are interested in, what makes us react certain ways and so on... You are trying to understand that which you fear!
White people have always done this concerning black people, it is no secret!... look throughout history...
2) You are a "bottom of the barrel white person" (low class) that is trampled on by the higher echelons of your own society, they look down at you as "white trash" ... this is very frustrating for low class whites as we can imagine... the anger inside you is to such a point that you need to take it out on someone or people you view as the cause of your status, you are looking to take out your frustrations of being a "white loser" out on the so called "ethnic minorities" as this is the only time of the day when you feel you have any power, this is why topix is very addictive to racist whites like you...
The more affluent racists treat you as if you are white trash, so your "only" escape is to spend your life on a black forum pretending that you played a part in helping the white race achieve world dominance and living off of others achievements, when the reality is you are only an alcoholic, cripple, who is "wheelchair bound"... You have achieved nothing!
You are here to live out a fantasy, it is very obvious, high achieving racist whites are far too busy achieving in life to spend all their time typing silly remarks to black people (who they do not like) on a black oriented forum!
... But the fact is I understand you more than you understand us. This is the reality of the situation!
...And do not try to deny it, or I will pull-up some of your old posts and show you that you are a sad white loser who has "far" too much time on your hands!
Good day sir!
-The Revolutionist
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Note by Me: I don't agree with calling any child brats or putting children into this issue, but I get the point.
By Timothy
*NOT ALL BLACK WOMEN IN HOLLYWEIRD WANT WHITE GUYS!
IT'S THE (some) BLACK WOMEN BUYING INTO THE WHOLE PRESSURE OF NEEDING TO FEEL THAT BEING WITH A WHITE MAN...."MAKES YOU MAINSTREAM"....OR "UNIVERSAL".....IT IS PEER PRESSURE....FROM THE WHITE MEDIA....
HOLLYWOOD WILL SCREW UP THE MOST LEVEL HEADED AND SANE PERSONS HEAD..IF THEY GET TO CLOSE!
-The Moor (on Stacy Dash)
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1) Could it be where I had stated "nearly half a Million whites have Aids in America"?
Well, 1.1 Million people have AIDS in the states, Blacks make up 42% of those cases, who make-up the other 600,000 cases..... Aliens?
2) Or, could you be referring to the part where I stated that "whites make up 70% of the drug users in the states"!.... Well...
... And that is the end of that debate!
3) Or is is the part where I said that "Blacks are multiplying in America"?
Seems like we are multiplying quite fine to me!... As for your people;
Feel free to point out what part of my post you need me to clarify or what part of what I say you think is fairy tale!
This is not a joke.... Mr Joker, I am deadly serious, maybe you should find another joker like yourself to idle away with, you are not mentally prepared for a debate with me!...
"Quit while you are behind" is my advice to you!
Good day sir!
-The Revolutionist
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Note by Me: I disagree with him on the rape part (since most black men don't rape any woman of any background. I don't believe in murdering anyone for any reason), but most of his words are accurate.
By Timothy
Whites are now being killed daily by blacks and other races throughout the west, but remember just 40 years ago it was minorities who were being killed... white women are being raped and pimped by us, remember what you were doing to our women not too long ago?....
YOU CAN PRETEND TO BE BLIND AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE, by the time you are ready to try to help yourselves it will be too late for you!... which is even better for the rest of us!
KARMA is a Bit*h!
LMBAO....
-The Revolutionist
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Read about white colonisers such as "King leopold" of the Congo who is responsible for the death of at least 10,000,000 Africans, they used to force Africans to kill one another in the most barbaric manner possible, in-fact blacks were killed if they refused to kill other black men women and children.
Ever wondered where the Chopping off of hands came from in Africa?...
That is right, the "White Devil" introduced the most barbaric of black on black violence in Africa, which stayed with those people!... That is just one example, there are much more, some too horrible to mention here!
...Also, black on black in the west is clearly a natural, negative occurrence due to generations of our people watching their family being killed, lynched and enslaved, causing a culture of devalued life. My people have been passed down a culture that has always taught that "black life is worthless" so my people are excused for their madness against themselves.... In slavery the slave master would get a slave who was the foreman to whip other slaves, this was done as a mind fck so that the slaves would hate the black man who is whipping them instead of him hating the white man... true story!
In other words, I hold your forefathers responsible for the creation of the Black on Black culture we have today!... Your forefathers taught our people in colonial Africa and the slaves to hate each other, your system is still doing it today subtly, I can go deep into this if you like!
-The Revolutionist
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This good vs. bad thing is a distraction. The real issue is about making solutions, building a better community, and having true black unity based on interaction not assimilation (including love without malice). If a man doesn't have love for women that gave him birth, then that man is a disgrace. I do what I want to do without being down with an anti-woman men's movement. You can believe and follow that anti-BW all male "brotherhood."
I decline the invitation to join that women hating "brotherhood." I rather be a sucker for love for justice than a sucker for death of my people.
I wear the label proudly.
-By Timothy
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You do realize that.
The enemy does use colloborators who are black. These colloborators are in both genders not just females like the snitch to Fred Hampton. Yet, to fight the enemy, a person can't overtly show contempt for their own women. To win the war, we should unite with the women and fight the battles. There is nothing wrong with exposing the problems in our community (as long as they are honest critiques without blanket statements).
I believe in allowing the sellouts to separate from the black community. Give them one opportunity to wake up. If they refuse, leave them alone and allow them to reap what they have sown. I do compare women of yesterday and today since they are descendants of women of yesteryear. Many black women in the 21st century are fighting for the truth just like yesterday.
-By Timothy
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Harvey33
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Harvey339 hours ago
brother, I was puzzled by her post, too, and her ethnicity. Didn't bother to check her page but I wouldn't be surprised if what you said was correct.
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it never fails to amaze me why so many white folk who don't like black folk seem to gravitate to black websites, as though they have to keep tabs on what we are saying and doing.
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Their mentality reminds me of that niccolo machiavelli saying:
keep your friends close
and your enemies closer
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Nonsense, you are here for the same reasons every other white racist is here.To answer all the questions black racists keep ASKING me.
Got any MORE questions?
1) In your daily lives, you all are afraid of black people, we see it all the time, you have all claimed that we are very aggressive and naturally prone to being violent... You are here to gather information on black psychology, what makes us tick, what subjects we are interested in, what makes us react certain ways and so on... You are trying to understand that which you fear!
White people have always done this concerning black people, it is no secret!... look throughout history...
2) You are a "bottom of the barrel white person" (low class) that is trampled on by the higher echelons of your own society, they look down at you as "white trash" ... this is very frustrating for low class whites as we can imagine... the anger inside you is to such a point that you need to take it out on someone or people you view as the cause of your status, you are looking to take out your frustrations of being a "white loser" out on the so called "ethnic minorities" as this is the only time of the day when you feel you have any power, this is why topix is very addictive to racist whites like you...
The more affluent racists treat you as if you are white trash, so your "only" escape is to spend your life on a black forum pretending that you played a part in helping the white race achieve world dominance and living off of others achievements, when the reality is you are only an alcoholic, cripple, who is "wheelchair bound"... You have achieved nothing!
You are here to live out a fantasy, it is very obvious, high achieving racist whites are far too busy achieving in life to spend all their time typing silly remarks to black people (who they do not like) on a black oriented forum!
... But the fact is I understand you more than you understand us. This is the reality of the situation!
...And do not try to deny it, or I will pull-up some of your old posts and show you that you are a sad white loser who has "far" too much time on your hands!
Good day sir!
-The Revolutionist
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Note by Me: I don't agree with calling any child brats or putting children into this issue, but I get the point.
By Timothy
JUST PATHETIC....HER TYRING TO RUN AROUND ACTING LIKE A WHITE GIRL..THEY JUST WANTED TO IT IT FOR A WHILE...THEN AS USUAL THEY MOVED ON!
*IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WHITE MALES EGO....SHE WAS HAILED AS SOMETHING SPECIAL...BUT SHE CHASED AFTER ANYTHING WHITE....AND LET THEM TREAT HER LIKE THE "NEXT PIECE OF A___"....AND NOW LOOK AT HER...
ALL USED UP AND STILL SINGLE..IT'S A DAMN SHAME....JUST ANOTHER BLACK BABIES MAMMA IN THE END....
SHE PLAYED HERSELF!
*IT'S ALL ABOUT THE WHITE MALES EGO....SHE WAS HAILED AS SOMETHING SPECIAL...BUT SHE CHASED AFTER ANYTHING WHITE....AND LET THEM TREAT HER LIKE THE "NEXT PIECE OF A___"....AND NOW LOOK AT HER...
ALL USED UP AND STILL SINGLE..IT'S A DAMN SHAME....JUST ANOTHER BLACK BABIES MAMMA IN THE END....
SHE PLAYED HERSELF!
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE...IN ANOTHER FIVE TO TEN...BEFORE THAT EVEN..YEARS...THERE WILL BE A BUNCH OF SINGLE/UNMARRIED/DIVORCED BLACK WOMEN WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR LITTLE MULATTO ACCESSORIES (A GIRLFRIEND OF MY WIFE'S WORDS NOT MINE)
LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO HELP THEM RAISE THEIR LITTLE MIXED BRATS!
*STACEY DASH IS JUST ANOTHER ONE!
*AND AS FAR AS JAMIE FOX IS CONCERNED...TRUST ME THEY ARE NOT DATING!
LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO HELP THEM RAISE THEIR LITTLE MIXED BRATS!
*STACEY DASH IS JUST ANOTHER ONE!
*AND AS FAR AS JAMIE FOX IS CONCERNED...TRUST ME THEY ARE NOT DATING!
THE ISSUE HERE IS...WOMEN LIKE HER ONLY DATE WHITE MEN...WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SO D___ PERFECT AS IF THEY JUST FELL FROM HEAVEN...BUT HERE THIS CHICK HAS HAD THREE WHITE HUSBANDS AND HAVE GOTTEN DIVORCED FROM THEM ALL...YET NOW IT IS JUST A NORMAL MAN/WOMAN THING.....
YOU ALL NEVER SEE YOUR OWN HYPOCRITICAL BEHAVIOR...NEVER!
*AND STACY DASH IS BLACK...MIXED MY ASS...EVERY BLACK PERSON WITH ISSUES IS MIXED WITH SOMETHING...HELL I'M PART BLACK,GERMAN AND THAI THEN!
I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE MARRIED A GERMAN WOMAN..HUH?
YOU ALL NEVER SEE YOUR OWN HYPOCRITICAL BEHAVIOR...NEVER!
*AND STACY DASH IS BLACK...MIXED MY ASS...EVERY BLACK PERSON WITH ISSUES IS MIXED WITH SOMETHING...HELL I'M PART BLACK,GERMAN AND THAI THEN!
I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE MARRIED A GERMAN WOMAN..HUH?
IT'S THE (some) BLACK WOMEN BUYING INTO THE WHOLE PRESSURE OF NEEDING TO FEEL THAT BEING WITH A WHITE MAN...."MAKES YOU MAINSTREAM"....OR "UNIVERSAL".....IT IS PEER PRESSURE....FROM THE WHITE MEDIA....
HOLLYWOOD WILL SCREW UP THE MOST LEVEL HEADED AND SANE PERSONS HEAD..IF THEY GET TO CLOSE!
-The Moor (on Stacy Dash)
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Exactly what part of the post are you referring to as a "fairy tale"..
I almost wish I was black after reading this fairy tail
1) Could it be where I had stated "nearly half a Million whites have Aids in America"?
Well, 1.1 Million people have AIDS in the states, Blacks make up 42% of those cases, who make-up the other 600,000 cases..... Aliens?
2) Or, could you be referring to the part where I stated that "whites make up 70% of the drug users in the states"!.... Well...
http://aconerlycoleman.wordpress.com/2010/02/...
“Most drug offenders are white. Five times as many whites use drugs as blacks. Yet blacks comprise the great majority of drug offenders sent to prison. The solution to this racial inequity is not to incarcerate more whites, but to reduce the use of prison for low-level drug offenders and to increase the availability of substance abuse treatment.”.
... And that is the end of that debate!
3) Or is is the part where I said that "Blacks are multiplying in America"?
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmcensus1.htm...
As of July 1, 2009, the estimated population of black residents in the United States, including those of more than one race. They made up 13.6 percent of the total U.S. population. This figure represents an increase of more than a half-million residents from one year earlier.
Seems like we are multiplying quite fine to me!... As for your people;
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/08/us/08census...
Whites continued to decline as a share of the American population in 2009, and they now represent less than half of all 3-year-olds, according to a Brookings Institution analysis of census data released Monday.
Feel free to point out what part of my post you need me to clarify or what part of what I say you think is fairy tale!
This is not a joke.... Mr Joker, I am deadly serious, maybe you should find another joker like yourself to idle away with, you are not mentally prepared for a debate with me!...
"Quit while you are behind" is my advice to you!
Good day sir!
-The Revolutionist
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Note by Me: I disagree with him on the rape part (since most black men don't rape any woman of any background. I don't believe in murdering anyone for any reason), but most of his words are accurate.
By Timothy
Karma, I need no concrete evidence, just open your damn eyes and look, lol... The British empire, the colonising of countries by the west have all gone, America (with all the latest weapons) cannot even fight small countries effectively, whites being slaughtered in South Africa, Muslims sawing white peoples heads off, live on the internet, do you need evidence that america is surviving on investment from china,Britain and Europe are now receiving investment, the wester economies are declining while third world economies are experiencing massive growth, Even somali pirates are taking the p___ by hijacking American warships, lol.... plus white birth rates are declining fast, it is a national disaster in places like russia where they are offering cash for kids, LMBAO...
And present day people paying for what their ancestors did? Who says? Who told you that? And I'll need some more concrete evidence of this Karma at work on my race. I think you're delusional, but, that's just me.
Whites are now being killed daily by blacks and other races throughout the west, but remember just 40 years ago it was minorities who were being killed... white women are being raped and pimped by us, remember what you were doing to our women not too long ago?....
YOU CAN PRETEND TO BE BLIND AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE, by the time you are ready to try to help yourselves it will be too late for you!... which is even better for the rest of us!
KARMA is a Bit*h!
LMBAO....
-The Revolutionist
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It is very complexed, however, a quick study of history will reveal who introduced the worst butchery into places like Africa.
Why is killing people and committing ( man made crimes) crimes agaisnt people outside ones is race worse than doing it to their own?
Read about white colonisers such as "King leopold" of the Congo who is responsible for the death of at least 10,000,000 Africans, they used to force Africans to kill one another in the most barbaric manner possible, in-fact blacks were killed if they refused to kill other black men women and children.
Ever wondered where the Chopping off of hands came from in Africa?...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/35169...
The film opens with the shocking images of some of Leopold's victims - children and adults whose right hands had been hacked off by his agents.
That is right, the "White Devil" introduced the most barbaric of black on black violence in Africa, which stayed with those people!... That is just one example, there are much more, some too horrible to mention here!
...Also, black on black in the west is clearly a natural, negative occurrence due to generations of our people watching their family being killed, lynched and enslaved, causing a culture of devalued life. My people have been passed down a culture that has always taught that "black life is worthless" so my people are excused for their madness against themselves.... In slavery the slave master would get a slave who was the foreman to whip other slaves, this was done as a mind fck so that the slaves would hate the black man who is whipping them instead of him hating the white man... true story!
In other words, I hold your forefathers responsible for the creation of the Black on Black culture we have today!... Your forefathers taught our people in colonial Africa and the slaves to hate each other, your system is still doing it today subtly, I can go deep into this if you like!
-The Revolutionist
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If you want to believe in offensive stereotypes about BW, why do you care. You obviously have an obsession with hating women of your ethnicity. Also, immoral people exist in non-black people. There are non-black people that lust after wealth and are golddigers as well. You don't mention this and you don't mention the problems in other communities. No one said that all black people are perfect. No one is perfect. People are just saying that you are in error to believe that no black women are in Hollywood, TV, commericals, no black women have the capacity to have an intellectual stimulating conversation, or black women lack doing anything of value.
Little Timmy's doing exactly what i want him to do. It's good to show the contrast between Good BM vs Good BW.
Notice how none of the BW challenge the BS from bad bw like you...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T3SIAQL9R6QLM...
Thus proving my point even further about BW.
This good vs. bad thing is a distraction. The real issue is about making solutions, building a better community, and having true black unity based on interaction not assimilation (including love without malice). If a man doesn't have love for women that gave him birth, then that man is a disgrace. I do what I want to do without being down with an anti-woman men's movement. You can believe and follow that anti-BW all male "brotherhood."
I decline the invitation to join that women hating "brotherhood." I rather be a sucker for love for justice than a sucker for death of my people.
I wear the label proudly.
-By Timothy
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You do realize that tons of black women exist in America and the world that don't follow negative stereotypes.
Timothy what you fail to understand is that Enemies and foes don't fall solely to the color standard. There's black women like Noplum working side by side with racist wm to destroy black men and black women.
Look at the attitude of these women here. They are actually trying to destroy themselves, and if you want to promote that, then go for it. As for me, i believe in Quarantine. Their mode of thought is much more destructive than any racist WM or WW.
These women need to be removed and let to breed themselves out of existence. The modern day black woman is a washout on so many levels. I would never ever compare these black women to the strong intelligent black women of yesterday. You should be ashamed of yourself for doing that.
You do realize that.
The enemy does use colloborators who are black. These colloborators are in both genders not just females like the snitch to Fred Hampton. Yet, to fight the enemy, a person can't overtly show contempt for their own women. To win the war, we should unite with the women and fight the battles. There is nothing wrong with exposing the problems in our community (as long as they are honest critiques without blanket statements).
I believe in allowing the sellouts to separate from the black community. Give them one opportunity to wake up. If they refuse, leave them alone and allow them to reap what they have sown. I do compare women of yesterday and today since they are descendants of women of yesteryear. Many black women in the 21st century are fighting for the truth just like yesterday.
-By Timothy
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