Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Advice and Commentaries





Once again, well said. The thing is not to pretend that there are no people who are of diffenrent color but to aknowledge it and say that, regardless of the color, we all should be equal in all meaning of that word and we are still not.
Problems do not go away by pretending they do not exists. Seeing them is the first step forward, denying them is a leap backwards.
Regarding Mr King as well as Malcom X they have been misquoted for so long that people do not understand at all what they were all about. They were both true visionaires who wanted to dismantle and wipe out racism totally. King was not loving the american system and X was not hating whites for fun. They both hated the white american system of oppression and both of them did understand that one basic element of that system, corner stone of that system, was social unequality and poverty. That is why they were both killed by that System.


Louis DeCaro Jr.
It’s really quite wrong when whites start promoting that “reverse racism” stuff. If a so-called white man doesn’t understand that being “white” is the norm and standard of everything in this society, and that this translates into real power, then he won’t understand the validity of this blog. Yes, blacks can be racially prejudiced. But racism has a history that whites do not understand because they don’t need to, since the world works for them as if naturally. Whites with extended, meaningful relationships with black people usually come to understand that blacks cannot take everyday things for granted the way whites can. To point this out is not reverse racism or “racist.” It’s reality. In a period when it is no longer fashionable to be outrightly, overtly, and ignorantly racist, the fact is that the majority “white” population have re-tooled their worldview. They don’t need to use the N-word except in private, and instead express their racialism in the political, social, cultural, and religious venues that carefully accommodate the centrality of whites. The point is that whites are always the norm, the regular, the standard human. Everyone else of color, especially blacks, have a racial prefix attached to their lives. When they let slip their racism, here and there, they act scandalized, as if it were an alien influence. But the majority white society is made up of “well-meaning” people who inherently exercise their racial prerogatives by the social circles, churches, politics, and cultural “votes” they cast everyday, as well as how they choose to overlook and deny the manifestations of racism. People don’t even have to be mean to do so, they just perpetuate the racial sensibilities that make them the most comfortable, and then point their fingers at the minority of flagrant, ignorant racists who are still working with the social toolbox of the mid-20th century. Let’s stop this whining about black racism and reverse racism.


@ Abagond,
Deftly written and that test is a good measure although the instincts i had were to go for none of the answers although number 3 might in fact be the truth if i were to really look into the mirror. I guess racism for whites is a one day at a time struggle like alchohol or drug abuse. Own the addiction don’t let the addiction own you, as they say.
@ Louis De Caro Jr.,
Nicely stated. I think ‘reverse racism’ as some of the whites posters would like to shriek about is really a bunk concept altogether. As soon as they surrendar the white systemic supremacy that they have clung to for so long, then we can’t even talk about reverse racism as we know it. That reverse racism conversation is so far from the reality of white global privilege.


It's crazy how most of yall have molded your answers just because Chris Brown brought up a point. Yall don't like him that much that yall won't agree to that fact that TMZ is racist just because he said it? Silly. I bet the same ones in here disagreeing were the same ones in the thread about TMZ trying to be funny about Blacks needing to be shot (with a video camera) a certain way crying foul. TMZ is racist. I don't care if there are two Black people working for them. On their show they say slick things about Black people all the time and people find it funny. I don't.

 TMZ is racist and Chris brown is color struck.
 -Miss Jackson


 Quote: Originally Posted by Cantaloupe Didn't he make fun of Sandra the blogger about her dark skin color? If he can be racist then why can't others. Him and Lil Wayne are such hypocrites. Its okay for them to be racist and then they turn around and cry when the same thing is done to them.


and they also have a poll asking if "rappers" are inherently violent.

next it will be are black people inherently violent. black folks will sure cut a backdoor for themselves even where none are present

beat me to it. as i said in the other post, when we cosign their discreet racist f_____  just because folks dont like cb, we are complicit in cosigning racism towards all blacks.



I've been reading and watching them for a long time and they have done and said some bogus stuff concerning african americans--bogus. they KNEW they better not say a damn negative thing about Heavy D and certain others. its really relevant on the tv show, the stupid shit they said to Samuel Jackson about race etc... they generalize alot about blacks, we smoke only Newports, eat fried chicken, slavery and watermelon, it goes on and on. I don't mess w/them like I used too cause some of the things are truly offensive to me-I keep it moving.


I think if someone like Denzel said that TMZ is racist then there would have been different responses. I took the whole is Chris Brown inherently violent is them saying are black people inherently violent. But then again, I don't know if they meant b/c of his dad being violent or what. I think TMZ goes in on black people more than white people. I have listened to their show plenty of times and the black people on that show even make some sideways remarks. Do I think Chris is somewhat crazy? Yes but TMZ can go overboard on the black racist comments.



I haven't finished the thread yet, but TMZ is DEFINITELY racist! My hubby and I vowed to never watch the show again during an episode that had a story about both Chris Brown and Charlie Sheen. This was when the whole Charlie Sheen scandal was at it's peak. Anyway, in one segment they talked about CB with such disgust, you could see it on their face, they weren't even trying to hide it. The very next segment they had CS and they were laughing and talking about him with such delight, and how they hope his crappy ass show stays on the air and blah blah blah. TMZ always rubbed me the wrong way but after that mess, I was DONE! And to be honest, it's not just with CB, with any black celeb they find a way to spin the story negatively. And I can't believe that people are in here co signing this how to shoot black people segment. I tell you, if you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything!


This is our fault for not protecting and validating our young black girls and making a big fuss over light-skinned blacks and blacks who have a white parent.This madness was taught to us from the days of slavery and we still have not recovered from this mental illness.
check out the book, "The Beauty Con Game" (on amazon) to find out how beauty is used as a weapon against black people


Bigsmoke wrote:

White Americans do have a bad image with regards to racism in many peoples eyes but they're noting compared to the Russians in the modern era. I wouldn't think twice about visiting the whitest part of the USA but Russia and Eastern Europe in general is out of the question.
I'm just saying this so you know Europe isn't a race relation heaven many parts are worse than anywhere in the USA. I can't exactly name which countries but I'd say Russia, Poland, Ukraine etc. Then again I know very little about mainland European societies due to language barrier I am more aware with what is happening in the USA than lets say France which is next door.
It was only in the 1980s that the late Dr. Manning Marable was dscribing th4 USA as the SECOND most racist nation on earth.(First prize went to South Africa).
We are learning more about problems of racism in Europe, especially in light of the economic crisis over there.



Sorry I gave you props when I meant to hit the remote button. Now part of what you say is correct. Slavery was an abomination. Your comments about Africa are shortsighted.
First, how did Africa get in the situaiton that it is? How did the kingdom of the Kongo, once stable and peaceful, become a disaster area? How did the once prosperous lands in the western Sudan--lands where once thrive Mali, Songhai & Timbuktu University---get into the desperate shape they're in now?
You say that the one good thing that came out of slavery is that we're no longer in Africa. I would propose that people STUDY Africn history, for the slave trade is one of the reasons Africa is in the shape it is today.
I would suggest that people acquaint themselves with the works of Walter Rodney, Eric Williams, W.E.B Du bois, Cheik Anta Diop and even Basil Davidson to get some historical perspective.
Perhaps, start with Du Bois' THE WORLD AND AFRICA, move to Eric Williams' CAPITALISM AND SLAVERY, and Walter Rodney's HOW EUROPE UNDERDEVELOPED AFRICA.
Simply peddling media images only promotes confusion.



Of course, you have evidence that Obama's mother was a communist. I take it she ws a member of a communist party or organization, and that she subscribed to the ideas of communism. You have proof of that? Oh, and also a Muslim. Now unless you mean some kind of RELIGIOUS communist (like Thomas More or some of the insurgent peasants during the German Peasant War), I'm wondering how Obama can be BOTH a communist and a Muslim. For it is certainly true that Marxist Leninists are atheists, but also that Muslims are monotheists, of the Abrahamic tradition which includes Judaism and Christianity. "It hass been said that..." WHO said when Mrs. Obama married her second husband "it was noted was noted" on offical documents that Obama was a Muslim. And WHO noted this? What evidence had this alleged person so noting? What offical documents? Not since the era of McCarthyism have we seen so many outlandish speculation. ("I have in my hand the names of 20 known communists in the State Department.....etc , etc., etc) Is there any offical document noted by somebody or another that Obama assassinated Lincoln? LOL! One other thing about this Muslim business. America, whatever her limitations, is a SECULAR REPUBLIC. Frankly, I wouldn't care if Obama REALLY was a Muslim. I want single payer univesal health care. The Obama plan, ss I indicated earlier, is weak but even still better than the NOTHING (or the little bettter than nothing) that we've had so far. I WISH Obama was a socialist---a REAL socialist, rather than your Muslim Communist boogeyman. He might then have fought for a better health care package, and done more than give lip service in support of working people whose economic rights are under attack. There are sometimes when I wish you reactionaries were really right. I wish Allen West was right about all the socialists in the Democratic party. It might make life a lot easier  



This is part of the arrogance, the arrogant stupidity of racism and white privilege.
No matter how dumb a white person is, he or she (if a racist) presumes to claim that even a highly inteligent man like Obama is really a "dumb a___." White people who are barely literate, and who are so dumb you'd think some mind altering chemical was put in their drinking water, would assume themselves superior to the most intelligent, articulate and best educated black man or woman on earth.
The more racist the white is, the more stupid.



First, the problem is the latent racism in America.
Unfortunately Faux News and the right wing race baiters have been able to re-enforce certain fears in whites about Obama simply because the color of his skin.
Did you notice how every incident that has occurred under Obama has been spun with some form of racial undertones.
Remember the Skip Gates incident? The right wing was more than happy to add a racial dimension to it by claiming that Obama defended his friend because Gates was black and the officer was white.
Then came along the Sherry Sherrod incident from which the White House couldn't run away fast enough because it dealt with race although the incident was completely manufactured.
She was fired basically to keep potential white folks from thinking that Obama had taken her side because both of them are black.
That incident proved how far Faux News had gotten into President Obama's head and the head of everyone else in the White House.
So regardless of what happens Faux News and Republican Party still control the narrative and the agenda in this country.


Desmond Sandiford wrote:
I'm just saying...as fine as these chicks are, brothers would fall in love with their personaity FIRST!...THEN you got all that booty and them hips...and asian women are far prettier per capita than most. You gotta be on your TOP game to even TRY and compete with them... aint no sloppy, ignant, stank attitude, hoodrat can even dream of measuring up.
I see you are still getting your Wesley Snipes on brother. LOL. The reality is that tons of non-black women have disrespectful personalities. You have the right to get your Wesley Snipes on, but I have never seen an Asian woman dead or alive that is superior to a black woman in terms of moral courage, strength, social maturity, defending the rights & liberties of the black man, or beauty (when black women have beautiful, dark skin complexion, a natural feminine body shape, a great African phenotype, beautiful cheeks, a diversity of hair texture, and a great smile). It's not there in my opinion. Although, black women have a great deal of maturity and intellectual vitality as proven in the histories of Harriet Tubman, Corretta Scott King, and other many other leaders of our people. So as black men, we owe a huge debt of gratitude to black women. You have the right to go out who you want to, but dogging sisters out in the process of that is silliness. The maligning of black women is tired, it's old, and it's blatantly wrong period. There are plenty of black women across socioeconomic classes that have class, standards, intelligence, integrity, and constructive insight on issues. Asian women come from black women genetically, so our sons and daughters (non-black people) are not superior to the architects of the human race (that being us black people). You just want to excuse your dating decisions by stereotyping some sisters. Nobody is perfect, but I will not stereotype my people in public or in private. I will acknowledge the excellent value of black men and black women in how we can be better human beings. Black Unity, Black Love, and Black Power are better policies than just bowing down before the feet of non-black people.

-By Timothy (Me)


Tolu April 30, 2009 at 6:24 pm The Jury Is In:
Asher Roth Is A Racist, Self-Destructing, Deluded Fool. The nerve of this cat! Africa? Really? Does he care to elaborate on the reason Africa is “suffering”? Thought so. The problem is, as Black and Brown folks, we excuse this kinds of assaults. We let the descendants of our slave masters dictate to us what the truth is. And this is even truer in Hip-Hop, than it is in many other realms of social engagement.



This idea that the established hip-hop community has dubbed him "real" is a contrived marketing ploy. Again, refer to the Byron Crawford/Eskay beef going on: http://www.byroncrawford.com/2009/04/the-peasant-mentality-in-hiphop-journalism.html

This idea that he HAD to play his "suburban card" is disingenuous to the reality of a mass marketing ploy. Do you think Asher Roth actually sat down, smoked a blunt, played some video games, and thought "You know, I'm not from a disadvantaged background, but that's what I need to be cool in hip-hop. I better emphasize my suburban roots so nobody calls me out?"

Of course not. This is pathetic marketing strategy at its worst. This is, what happened instead was a group of suits that said, "Here's a white kid. Let's market him to white kids and sorority girls." And they tried it. And he sold 67,000 copies of his record in the first week. And it sucked. And so did his Don Cannon mixtape.

Also, you seem to use "suburban" throughout your post as code for "white." I think you might want to check out my post that calls into question the "inner-city legitimacy" claims of some of our favorite rappers: http://socialsciencelite.blogspot.com/2009/04/fck-where-you-at-kid-its-where-you-from.html

I'm kind of in the business of respecting other people's opinions, so I most definitely respect yours. But we might just have to agree to disagree.

ps. You really think he can flow?!?


I dont care if I never see a White male in power ever again.Boyce you have to get rid of the slave mentality.Obama cannot save Black America no President can.Show your intelligence and admit that.


I fail to understand the concept that Obama isn't Black because he grew up in Hawaii and had a white mother. Nobody questions the Blackness of  Bob Marley, Halle Berry, Alicia Keys, Derek Jeter, Jasmine Guy, Jimi Hendrix, Smokey Robinson, Soledad O'Brian or even Malcolm X, all of whom are part White and often raised outside the 'hood.  All of the sudden we have a Black President of mixed background, and we hear this garbage that "he isn't really Black."  I didn't hear "well Halle isn't really the first Black female best actress Oscar winner because she was raised by a white mother and plays roles in mostly white movies."
Let's not forget that Clarence Thomas was born and raised in the deepest, Blackest part of the South; and you see how much he relates to mainstream Black people; so your Blackness can't be gaged solely by where you grew up, who raised you and where you went to school.
Finally Clinton was a strong supporter of racial disparities in drug sentencing, including three strikes, that has resulting in long jail terms of Blacks for mostly minor offenses.  Clinton also signed and supported the 1996 Telecommunications Act that has resulted in the demise of Black owned and locally programmed Black radio.   There are two articles this week on EUR and the grio about how this act prompted the creation of Clear Channel and other media giants that have all but shut down Black radio.




 Anonymous said... @5:09 Yes, there are plenty of colorstruck cultures in the world. I believe it was in Portugal where a man went off on Rihanna - calling her a n____ and everything. The Portuguese crowd also called Lewis Hamilton a n_____. He's a race car driver that dated Nicole Sherzinger from The Pussycat Dolls. He's only half black, which means his skin is light, but apparently, not light enough. Racism is disgusting


Yes, they coddle and all that because our God is loving and forgiving and the sinners are told to pray, go and sin no more..

To bad the flesh is weakIcon_confused

Sinners need more than words of love.




 A Terrible Book That Proves Men Are Simple-minded, April 17, 2010 By Mediaman "TVviewer" (USA) - See all my reviews This review is from: Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man: What Men Really Think About Love, Relationships, Intimacy, and Commitment (Hardcover) This terribly-written book has Harvey spouting humorless relational philosophy, such as "men are simple creatures." And he proves that point by writing such a simple-minded book that it's a complete waste of time to read it. The book is sexist, stereotyping all men into knuckle-dragging, sports-loving hunters that just need a little sex to keep them happy. The book is addressed to women, telling them to dress better, accept that the guy won't talk much, and give sex more often in order to keep their guy from straying. Most offensive is Harvey's constant references to "the Lord" and Jesus, leading people to believe he upholds spirituality, yet he point blank tells people to have sex after 90 days together and accepts a couple living together without being married. He often mentions going to church--didn't he learn anything there? He also conveniently fails to mention that he has been married three times. The book would lead you to believe he was married once, to a woman he admittedly slept with and cheated on before she threatened to walk out on him. There is also no real mention of his children. A quick check of his bio online will uncover the truth. If you can't trust a guy writing a book about relationships to come clean about his own relationships, then why read the book? There are a couple of valid points, such as the fact that men need respect and loyalty from women. But the lousy writing style and simplistic examples negate any reason to read this book.

 Note by Me: I don't believe that non-blacks are subhumans (all people deserve equality, respect, and dignity), but we as black people are the original people on this Earth. 
-By Timothy

 DaisyDooks said... @SoHo - Genetically, Isabella IS a Caucasian. No matter where she is born, she will STILL be a Caucasian. Isabella is a WHITE Brazilian---not a BLACK Brazilian. Since BLACK humans ARE the indigenous on EVERY continent and island, native Brazilians are BLACK. An AUTHENTIC Arab is BLACK AFRAKAN---period. Anglo-Arabs are Caucasian---and impostors. They are Turks, Persians, Aryans, Hindi. No BLACK human should EVER be jealous of the straight-haired ANIMAL-grafted Neanderthal-Primate-Caucasian A-B-AB blood type species. We, AfRAkans, are O-Bloods--the original HUMAN blood type. I am Black and unapologetically AfRAkan. AfRAkans have a saying, "The only humans are BLACK---everyone else is an EXTRACTION!"


You'd be a d___ hypocrite to say the least!
Of course you can't be both. A genuine pro-black person would keep preservation of the black family at heart, not undermining it, which ultimately becomes a factor when having children with nonblacks, as that further contributes to the intra-racial disunity in the community.

Wrapping themselves in the pro-black flag is a convenient cover for dating and mating proclivities that contradicts the ideology in a hilariously laughable way, but to black peoples' credit rarely are these charlatans taken seriously, despite their cunning efforts.

I disagree with your assessment of the ideology.

"Much of that ideology is based around the seperation and "purity" of races."

That’s way too easy, and conflated with supremacy doctrine which we know who the architects and practitioners are to date. Pro-black ideology promotes self sufficiency without apology, nor outside interference. The tangible symbol is an intact, successful black family unit.

Collective identity would be compromised by outsiders. Cultural or otherwise.



I'm thinking if the person wants to be with you, they want to be with YOU. You go changing and toning things down, you won't be YOU, that'll be somebody else when, if he wanted somebody else, then he would have gotten with somebody else. 

I support give him what he wants and what he thought he picked -- the real you. Besides, that's what men fall in love with -- it's not your hair, your complexion or the shape of your a___ -- they like those things but when they fall in love, they fall in love with YOU.
-A Person


Originally Posted by TheMadHatter View Post
No, I would never change myself to date someone no matter what their race was.

I am who I am, I like what I like. If you can't deal with it, find someone who fits into your framework, and I will find someone who will accept me.

I'm sure that people tone down their ethnocentricity in some IR relationships, but I'm sure that's not the case for all IR relationships. I think it depends on the people involved.

alot of blks tone down their ethnocentricity for whites when dating. they act in a way that they think whites would like.

-A Person

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Male, Age Private, Chicago, IL Posted June 29, 2010 @ bush2win

 missed your presence, brotha and I think most BM (if we were honest about it) would ask the same question: where would WE be without our black women, black mothers, sisters, grandmothers, wives, friends, and lovers?

 where would the Jena Six young BM be if it were not for the young college sister who started the movement to go down to LA for six black boys she'd never met? didn't see no Hispanic or Asian OR white female organizations or co-eds down there, brotha... I'm a broken record, but hell, if that's what it TAKES, that's what i will do some folk think by ACKNOWLEDGING the importance of BW in our lives, we are saying they are perfect. One thing has nothing to do with the other. do we not honor our mothers, and in doing so, does that mean our mothers were perfect people?

 Again, showing appreciation and love does NOT mean we lose anything in the process but AS MEN, we actually get stronger and more confident in ourselves. why do we think the WM praises and uplifts the white female PUBLICLY? because SHE is a reflection of HIM and by raising her VALUE, he automatically raises HIS VALUE.... simple math and physics.... and before I get on a roll, I'll stop here...lol

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