Spike has no reason to be jealous of Tarantino.
Spike makes films of the Black experience, from the perspective of a Black person.
Tarantino makes Black exploitation films from a white persons perception of Black peoples experiences.
We already know which form of Black representation you prefer. I prefer to see my people represented in their true light, by one of my own.
And in case you didn't know, Spike brought to us Malcolm X on film. He was a "real" Black hero. Tarantino could never create anything to compare with that.
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In this nation, some folks still think that one cent of increased taxation to the same people that started this recession in the first place is a sin. It is not. Austerity will further cripple the poor and to hear even some Democrats going along with reactionary austerity is truly a shame. What is needed is not austerity or poor scapegoating. Radical Austerity is nothing more than slick genocide against human beings. I don't believe in the acceptable approach of loving an economic system that exploited my people for centuries. We know for sure that globalization as it exists today and the IMF has not radically decreased poverty or economic inequality in the world now in 2013 at all. We need to tax Wall Street and have reasonable cuts to the military industrial complex. We need to end the war on terror and end the War on Drugs costing us economically plus morally. Also, we need some spending to grow the economy. How are you going to grow the economy without some spending? 19th century economic thinking is not going to cut in the 21st century at all. The reactionaries yell about the Constitution, but the laws of the land outlines information on the general welfare of society. Cut, cut, and more cutting of the social safety net permanently is fantasy and extreme anarchism. Investments and radical, revolutionary solutions are needed to develop our national infrastructure. A real, moral society is not embracing of an archaic, immoral philosophy of "you are on your own" without help or compassion. It is the efficient acceptance of tolerance and the view that we are all of brothers' or our sisters' keepers. That's real.
It's so ironic and tragic how todays rap music,so-called hip hop is being used as tool for some to commit murder and black on black self destruction and genocide.
While a vast % of black's were running to some movie produced by some white man about some slaves on a plantation.
Life on todays 21st century updated slave plantation get's more intense and diabolical daily for the average black person male or female young or old.
Some of these brainwashed type black's do not even realize they are killing and dying for some fake paper money with dead slave owners on it and to be supposedly famous in the white controlled media world,what a tragic situtaton for black American overall.
Thats why we have black men and women taking our own sweet time because of what you said. You are right. True Love is on life support.. What is sad is that, their are so many males and females who have not a clue ,what you are talking about..At some point, it's time for people to grow up and get serious about marriage and family but in todays world, its considered a joke to want real love and build a life together.....
All most people are concerned about is, instant gratification. No one wants to work for anything, not even relationships.. Someone is not doing what you want, or doesnt look a certain way,or doesnt have a certain amount on bank,
just move on to someone that does ... And they wonder why they are failing in the game of life.
I respectfully disagree. In a PERFECT world, this show might not be that big a deal. But we STILL exist under a system of white supremacy where ANY and EVERYTHING negative WILL be used to show the WORLD how Black people "really are". I have heard Condelezza Rice, whom I'm not a fan of, talk about how negative Blacks are viewed across the globe due to negative images we allow to go out about us. We are the ONLY group that have been taught the "individual" game. We functioned far better when we use to have a form of cohesiveness then we do now with individualism. I talked to a Black woman a few years ago who worked at a manufacturing plant. She observed when new Blacks were hired, nobody, including other Blacks aided them in learning the job, thus there was a high turnover rate. When questioned, she stated that most Black relied on "individualism"(I got mine mentality). However, other races RUSHED to assist THEIR group learn the job and as it stands now, Blacks, who once ran the plant are now in the minority and on the edge of unemployment as the word has gone out that Blacks are stupid and lazy. Shows like this and others are used as propaganda for white supremest to "show" the world how Blacks REALLY are. When we allow negative images of ourselves to be used we are ALL affected in one way or another. And we help white supremacy continue.
Naomi C, that's a reasonable assessment you have. But, allow me to counter. Black people are victims of racism everyday in this country. Racism that is fueled by local news, gangsta rap videos, YouTube, World Star Hip Hop, reality TV, etc. Until other races in this country receive the same level of injustices as Black people, we shouldn't compare ourselves with other races. Trayvon Martin was gunned down because his COLOR represented THUG. Unlike other races, our negative media image has cost some of us our LIVES.
In regards to Bob Marley, there are documentaries about his life that details his family situation. However, Bob Marley was a beloved international Reggae singer. I guarantee you, no show featuring his family life would be called "All My Babies’ Mamas". I think "My Rasta Family" or perhaps "One Love" would have been suitable titles.
So what you going to do when that Pacific Islander mess you over,are you going to stop dating and/or marrying them.I already know the answer to that,you'll just go and get another one and another one after that.Blacks are the only people who turn their back on their whole race over a few doing them wrong.When the white race has wronged us for centuries and you still give them chance after the chance to love and treat you right.
As a Black woman this show doesn't represent me either. As a matter of fact, it doesn't represent the majority of us. But that's the point. Why are we so unaffected by the medias infatuation with showing us in a negative light? Why is it ok to perpetuate stereotypes that WE know represent a much smaller part of our community? Why is it ok for networks to glorify, congratulate, and profit off of irresponsible, immature, and downright disgusting behavior? And most importantly... why do we want our children to have consistent exposures to such negative images?
As a community we need to be moving forward... not backward. We need to provide our children with positive images of us representing the strong and resilient people that we are. This is HARDLY a documentary. This is nothing but an opportunity for a network to make money and exploit the unfortunate lifestyle of these people.
I read some of these comments before choosing to respond to this article....... Why in this day in age, do we choose to glorify this behavior and these shows (I don't care whether they are black or white, IT'S WRONG!). Why don't they do like the 90's when they had positive Black shows? We have positive Black people (if not positive ourselves) showing what we do best. Why reduce us to the minstrel shows of old and times begone?? I don't agree and as one of the comments said below, If I don't like it, I don't have to watch, nor will I watch it..... By feeding into it, We become part of the problem and not the solution..... Reach for the stars my people, instead of just the clouds....Peace.
Love shouldn't just be limited to your own race!! We should love ALL people (If you are a human) and true respect for all genders. That's a huge problem with our community nowadays, we love to reverse discriminate! It's counterproductive and ridiculous to want to be respected and have your rights acknowledged then turn around and discriminate and/or prejudge someone. Our communities would be a much better place if we replaced all of the separation, hate, anger, disrespect and disregard for each other with LOVE!
My Response:
Your argument seems sincere, but here is the true. Culturally, our people have been very tolerant toward non-blacks for a very long time. Then and now, our people go out of their way to help their neighbors as themselves. Polls show that more blacks support IRs than whites or other ethnic groups in the USA. There is no such thing as reverse discrimination. Discrimination is discrimination no matter who does it, but we stll have a threat of white supremacy in the world. Black love and black Power has nothing to with discrimination or hatred. It has to do with black people affirming their own dignity, their own love, and their own interests in the world society. There is nothing wrong with love, but love is not self hatred. Love deals with justice too. Far too often, some IRs are a product of self hatred and superficial justifications. That is purely known and documented by numerous qualified sources. This is expressed in Hollywood and other circles. My comments has to do with promoting love in our people not prejuding a person, which is a slick argument on your part. We tried radical assimiliation and compromise for all of these decades and it has gotten us nowhere. What works is not hatred for the non-blacks, but growing the interests of our own (which every ethnic groups does in terms of publicly telling the President about their interests. When the Hispanics, Asians, Indians, and white ethnic groups does these things, you will typically not accuse these ethnic groups of reverse discrimination. They are just utilizing common sense). When we advocate the same thing, then some folks accuse us black human beings falsely of hate.
Also, I did not mention anything about denying loving all people as equals. I rebuke folks who have self hatred of their own black people.That is all. It is very silly to condemn your own race when our race has been the victims of discrimination for years and today. Also, tons of black people express LOVE all of the time. See, love is not compromise to the status quo. Love is demading and it deals with self acceptance and never being ashamed of our black identity, our black African phenotype, and our black blood. Our black people collectively never advocated the hatred of another human being on the basis on someone's skin color as articulated by Malcolm X and Dr. King. I stand by my convictions. I don't have to be pc for anyone especially the enemy.
@ Kushite Prince
I agree, the entire political system is so corrupt it is almost impossible to work WITHIN the system and make real change.
That’s why I’m against voting for any major party candidates (who’s kidding who, Democrat or Republican, they all work for the same hidden hands).
We will have to find another path to liberation and the best place to start is by LIBERATING OUR MINDS and not falling for the political CON GAME of black “progress.”
Anyone who enters a SNAKE PIT – be they alderman, Congressman/woman, or the President of the United States — will NOT survive unless they share the same characteristics as the rest of the snakes in that pit.
If they are a lamb they will be quickly DEVOURED,
If they are a small-time snake, not too greedy, not too poisonous, and don’t crowd the bigger snakes, they might eke out a living of sorts.
BUT if they survive and flourish amongst the biggest SNAKES, the truth of who and what they are should be SELF-EVIDENT to all who seek the truth.
Strong words, but that is what we will have to become: strong minded and thick-skinned.
Of course, NO ONE in power is going to select or finance someone who wants to destroy that power. That’s just common sense.
As far as crushing any illusions, anyone who bases their decisions on make-believe AND wishful thinking will get a SERIOUS wake-up call they will not be prepared for
I guarantee you.
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CREE-EIGHTSays: December 20, 2012 at 11:51 am Josh, here’s what I mean when I say “alpha male:” Alpha male = favored by nature in getting the sexual attention of females
Since physically forced sexual activity is a negligible percentage of that occurring amongst people, an alpha male is one whom females prefer. Those with very broad appeal to women. As I have observed patterns about people, here are three basic qualities I’ve observed about those men who have that broad appeal:
1) They really, really, really LIKE women through and through. Not just mammaries, buttocks, hips, legs, etc, but all the subtle physical and behavioral things that make women different than men. This is the most important characteristic because all the others follow from this.
2) They protect weaker people by instinct. They are, therefore, quick to take principled stands without checking for consensus first. They may or may not hang around for debate about their stands but they take them quickly.
3) They like smart women because they REALLY value a woman’s perspective and, therefore covet being desired by the smartest ones.
These are men who are VERY sensitive but effortlessly and intrinsically tough. Like the finalists in the Olympic 100 meters event who uncannily are not just fast but have amazing body proportions and gorgeous, masculine faces— that combination of toughness and sensitivity seems to most often come with a complement of physical gifts as well—height, prominent brow ridges, wide shoulders, thick fingers, masculine gait.
It seems to me, that these PUA sites are knowledge-pooling efforts to fashion “behavioral cosmetics” in the same way that women use physical cosmetics to “make-up” for what is lacking naturally.
Josh, I’ll address your other questions in a separate comment.
(I do not agree with everything in socialism, but this link has great research. By Timothy)
Kushite PrinceSays: December 18, 2012 at 5:15 pm
“This is a non-reciprocal relationship. Reciprocity is one of the pillars of justice outlined by Ma’at. This only 1 example of a violation of justice (Ma’at). You cannot produce justice while violating a tenet of justice.”
Great quote! Not much I can add to that. Jay and I have had some good discussions. He has some great insight. It’s always nice chatting with him.
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LBMSays: December 18, 2012 at 11:25 am
IMHO a male of value would at least be able to do what Big Jo did with the above post – he supported with clarity and empathy. He articulated a clear understanding of why we need reciprocal love and support. Black Love Is A Revolutionary Act.
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diaryofanegressSays: December 17, 2012 at 2:29 pm
This actually made me tear up. I love black men, Miss CREE. They are ours and we have an obligation to them. There are times, however, that I wished they felt the same way.
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The world is changing. Earlier this year there was an edition THE ECONOMIST with
headlines and an article entitled "Africa on the Rise." Many people will be
surprise not only about the recovery of much of Africa, but the positioning of
some of them to become the new "tiger" economies (as once happened in Asia).
Search for an 2012 edition of THE ECONOMIST with the title "AFRICA ON THE RISE."
Another magagazine I saw in the possesion a colleague in Political Science had a
title more or less along the lines of "Last Days of Tyrants in Africa."
Dictators everyone are on the run or are alteady out of business. From every
corner of the Earth---Africa included---freedom is rising as the true destiny of
human kind. In every nation, city, town and village---on every inch of the globe
where humans dwell freedom will riSe like the dawn. FREEDOM RISING!!!!
-Savant
I think that your white supremacists, like ours, are on the losing side of
history. One reason Barack Obama (whatever his limitations) could win in 2008
and 2012 is that American whites are a SHRINKING minority. But also, a sizeable
fraction of the American white population no longer adheres to white supremacist
prejudices and anti-Black phobias upon which Repubicans rely (as Dixiecrats once
relied) to carry them in any election. During one recent lecture I gave at
Duquesne University, there were even some students of European descent who were
arguing for "ending" whitss. "Even considered from a selfish standpoint," opined
one blonde coed, "the benefits of whiteness are too small, and the costs to
high." In short, SOME whites are choosing to be human instead of irrelevant.
-Savant
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Evil is a disturbance which is why we suffer BUT I do believe Mother nature was
designed to eliminate anything creating a disturbance to get things back in
order, kinda like how an immune system was designed to eliminate an illness. So
technically the creator doesn't allow suffering, it's just suffering can
re-occur like a cancer until the cancer is eliminated completely.
-Redefined
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Anonymous said...
@10:52
What rock have you been living under? Quentin Tarantino has
been a household name since the 90s.
I saw parts of the original script
for this Django film, and it included a gang rape scene, and some other foul
s_______.
Kerry is going around claiming that the movie has a feminist
message for women... GTFOHWTBS!
I'm not even gonna speak on Jamie Foxx...
and Sam Jackson has been hyping this movie too-- you know he and Quentin are
good friends and they go way back. Quentin put Sam on the map, so he's never
gonna have anything bad to say about him. Sam has been acting since Quentin was
in middle school, but he didn't get any mainstream hype until Pulp
Fiction.
And in any regular QT movie, you know they gotta try to break
the world record for the number of times they say "n___________" on screen.
I
won't be spending $20 on that b________. If you want to spend your money on
watching white racists rape, abuse, and murder black folks (for no educational
purpose--- just for laughs), go for it.
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Anonymous said...
I don't know why a movie like this needed to be made in 2012. Quentin goes
too far and from what I understand wants to be the King of Blaxploitation films.
And then you have Samuel Jackson running around telling everybody that will
listen, his character will be the most hated on film ever. Is that a surprise
when you're playing a MAJOR TOM C_------?! The word n_---r is abused to no end in
the film by Leonardo Dicaprio, which he probably enjoyed and who the f---- wants
to see Kerry Washington get raped not once but twice. I haven't seen the film,
but really now. What's the d----- point of this film? It d----- sure ain't for
educational purposes. Jamie Foxx and Kerry W. already said how uncomfortable
they were making it....that says it all. A d---- shame they already nominated
this disrespectful s---- for a golden globe. Just one more slavery film, made by
another white guy to exploit our history for entertainment. I'm with Spike. Alex
Haley told this story already.
Anonymous said...
The movie is blaxploitation and that came out of Samuel L Jackson's
mouth.
Blaxploitation = Black Exploitation
QT made this movie so
he, through his characters, could call black folks N_---- and BLUE GUM m_____
and other crazy racist names for black folks.
Notice how he, DiCaprio
and the other white dude got nominations for Golden Globes. No black folks. Draw
your own conclusions.
I agree with Spike and I will not see that
disrespectful movie.
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PolskiHusaria wrote:
Explained what? The
earliest humans found in West Africa proper are Iwo Eleru in Nigeria 13,000
years ago. The earliest people near West Africa or rather North-West Africa
are Taforalt-Afalou / Paleolithic Mahreb who had U6 haplogroup. Which U6
haplogroup appears to have it's roots ultimately in the Near East / Middle
East. Which U6 haplogroup is still found in quite high amounts in Kabyle
Berbers & Mozabite Berbers in the very region of Paleolithic Maghbreb had
such U6 haplogroup. Ckearkt Kabyle Berbers & Mozabites are clearly rather
Caucasoid looking & look more similar to Southern Europeans & South West
Asians than to Sub Saharan Africans.
THIS!
quote:
Tajima's D and Fu's Fs, our
unpublished data). An intriguing increased frequency of L0a1 in the Balanta
might parallel A1-M31 and A3b2-M13 Y chromosomes in representing East African
traces. Although the founder L0a1 haplotype is shared in an east-to-west
corridor, the emerging lineages are exclusive of Guineans, indicating a rapid
spread and local expansion after arrival.
The analysis of our data
provides further evidence for the homogeneity of the Y chromosome gene pool of
sub-Saharan West Africans, due to the high frequency of haplogroup E3a-M2. Its
frequency and diversity in West Africa are among the highest found, suggesting
an early local origin and expansion in the last 20–30 ky. Hypothesizing on the
existence of an important local agricultural centre, this could have supported a
demographic expansion, on an E3a-M2 background, that almost erased the
pre-existing Y chromosome diversity. Its pattern of diversity within Mandenka
and Balanta hints at a more marked populational growth, these people possibly
related to the local diffusion of agricultural expertise. The Papel and
Felupe-Djola people retain traces of their East African relatives, to which the
short timescale of residence in Guinea-Bissau and higher isolation from major
influences have contributed.
These minor imprints may represent movements
from Sahel's more central and eastern parts, seen, for example, in the typically
Ethiopian/Sudanese E3*-PN2 lineages that have reached Senegambia [2,3,5].
Ialready told you Nigeria is just ONE REGION and Africans migrated to
Africa during different TIMES!
U6 is still low in North Africans.
-mike
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Bigsmoke wrote:
Interesting indeed. I bet
Hawass was pissed off at the results, LOL!
Lol...Hawass can
no longer hide the truth. I believe he nay he loosening up a bit.
Also,
call me an Afrocentric all you want. But I'm stating to believe the gap between
AA's/West Africans and Ancient Egyptians is starting to close a little.
I
don't believe AE, was some Pan African civilization, but
still.
Also...
"Named for the pharaoh who attempted to convert Egypt
to monotheism, this autosomal ancestry marker like most of the Amarna family
group’s DNA is clearly African in origin. Akhenaten received it from his mother,
Queen Tiye. Today, it is the gene type carried by a majority (52%) of the Copts
living in the Pre-dynastic site of Adaima near Thebes or Luxor and the Valley of
the Kings on the Nile River in Upper (southern) Egypt. The ancient marker makes
a good showing in the Middle East and in Jews as well as parts of southern
Europe close to Africa, such as southern Italy and Spain, but it is reduced to
low levels in Asia and the Americas (except where brought there by Africans or
people carrying some African ancestry).*About 2 in 5 Africans or African
Americans has it.* Among Melungeons, the figure is 1 in 3." http://dnaconsultants.com/akhenaten-gene
Bigsmoke...Do you
have a theory of how there is west/central African genes in Ancient Egypt? My
theory is, that the Yoruba CLAIM that they descend from AE.
I already
told people that WA are NOT one monolithic group. And that they migrated to West
Africa from different regions. Could some west Africans like the Yoruba migrated
from Egypt?? I mean the Dogon people are originally from Egypt.
Everything TRUTH HITMAN IS BACK said is right. Marcus Garvey was the man. Du Bois was bad minded and Jealous of Garvey.
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big mike M wrote:
ATTENTION EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE SOME VERY
INTERESTING NEWS! It may not be good news for certain people, BUT ITS HUGE
NEWS.
Just yesterday...King Ramesses III was said to carry African E1b1a!!!
This led by none other than ZAHI HAWASS!!!!!! http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e8268
Surprising ain't it?
Ramesses and an unknown mummy,possibly said to be his son are shown that they
both carry E1b1a know known as E-M2. The unknown mummy was labeled Unknown man
E. Unknown Man E is said to possibly be Ramsesse III son.
But the news
doesn't stop getting interesting there! E1b1a is mostly found in Sub Saharan
Africans like West/Central Africans!!!! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
Interesting
ain't...
And if you want a quick and more simple look. Here's another
link. http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1899/rameses...
Great news!
-Chuck
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My shorthorn Texan friend, you clearly have no ideal WTF you are talking about!
Detroit is in dire straits for the same reasons that blacks collectively have
not created a sustaining economic infrastructure....lack of access to the
capital markets! When all the whites hauled azz with their white flight to the
suburbs, they siphoned all of their equity out of the city's economy, devalued
real estate, reducing the city's tax receipts which raised their borrowing cost
for their municipal bonds; which is coupled with their tax receipts to finance
the city's expenditures.
Ever
intelligent being, black or white, understand that one doesn't have to send an
invading army in to destroy a city, instead just cut off it's access to the
capital and credit markets and it will die a slow death from economic
deprivation; which is what has happened to Detroit.
Lastly, intellect doesn't necessary translate into economic
success, so its not that simple. And pray tell, what reasoning do you assign for
all of the bankrupt municipalities, cities and state governments that are
insolvent as we speak.....which are runned by you "intellectually superior"
whites? Detroit is no broker than our Federal government which survives on
borrowed money; or Greece, or any of the other European nations, sans
Deutschland.
So, do some research on
Macroeconomics and reflect a bit before you get up on your racial high horse and
condescend to blacks, because if the Asians and the oil rich arabs stop
financings our deficits, this whole country will become a Detroit!
I completely agree and I am not cringing. My
heritage is Caribbean and watermelon is not a big thing in my household. That's
why I never understood the watermelon insults. But I agree, eating watermelon is
nothing to be ashamed of. Racist whites are just stupid, desperate people who
latch onto anything to try and justify their insane philosophies about the
so-called "greatness" of being white.
I hear you brother, but
remember these racist idiots don't bother to make the distinction between AA,
Caribbean or Africans. Nor do they between Chinese, Japanese or Koreans or Cuban
and Mexicans. That woulbe burdening their intellectual reserves; so the key is
to never give them consent. Whatever insult they try and leverage at you says
everything about them and nothing about you. Be blessed!
The evidenc of whites being intimidated by an intelligent black populous is
deductively proven by their historical practice of creating and maintaining an
uneven playing field, where instead of each of us competing according to our
individual abilities, they created de facto and de jure laws that systemically
excluded blacks from competing while sequestered all the opportunities to
themselves.
If they were certain of their intellectual superiority they
would not have felt the need to slant the laws, opportunity and access to
capital in their favor while holding blacks behind the starting line for over
100 plus years after emancpation with their own un-titled AFFIRMATIVE ACTION in
which white males were the exclusive beneficiaries.
But the most
egregious part of this offense is that instead of just thumping their chest with
Darwinian pride and saying, "Yeah..We did it," they instead attribute their
hegemony to their innate superiority and black inferiority!
Has anyone ever noticed, that when blacks educate
themselves, white people come along and try to discredit your accomplishments?
Or they try to make your feel like they're better than you are? It's my opinion,
that whites are intimidated by, and fear educated Black people. What are your
thoughts on this matter??
You got that right. Not all whites
are like this, but a good number are. I know this from experience. Part of the
animosity toward Barack Obama is precisely this resentment of an EDUCATED Black.
American anti-intellectualism blends with anti-Black racism to form a most toxic
brew of hatred.
-Savant
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Africa AE wrote:
Nope King Tuts DNA proved he was
mixed race. Nefertiti was mixed race and so was Cleopatra and the list goes on
and on.....one pharaoh doesnt mean everyone in Egypt was black African!!!!
First of All let's deal with Cleofckingpatra ,She Wasn't
alive during the real Egyptian Empire ,Her familly the Ptolemes were Greeks
Invadors whom Conquered Egypt WAY After the real thing !
King Tut Dna
Proved He was pure Black Check out dnatribes Dna test results of 01-01-2012
,this study was Approved by dr Zahi Hawass ,Surprisingly the Amount of non-black
genes is close to Zero !
As for Queen Nefertiti ,Send us the link please,
we'll be All Glad to take a look at it !
This Black Egypt debate has been
won by Africans Scholars(Dr Cheick Anta Diop)at the Cairo Conference in 1974
.
Dr Anta Diop PUNKED & DEBUNKED 22 Euro-Centric Pseudo-Scientists that
Year!
So Trust me AEgypt was a black Empire like it or not !
To your point, I believe if Blacks, especially males, were taught that love/relationships are a privilege that once were denied them, and that the same system operates now to drive wedges between Black men and women, they would view love/relationships in a different light.
Roosevelt, this is why I feel the way I do about the image of Jamie and kerry Washingtons characters in this film. WE are taught to be ashamed of slavery and to stop talking and showing it. WHY? The visual is important. The jews have over 100 plus films on the holocaust and they make sure of that.This is the only observation I made about the film because, I haven't seen the film. Just trailers like everyone else. And of course, to show slaves revolting on the screen is indeed visually empowering and this is why they don' show it.You really think i don't know that? As you stated that i'm wet behind the ears? really?That's how you talk to someone you don't know?By not showing revolts, its the best way to keep people passive.
Question. What does oversexed have to do with LOVE and Romance? I see them as three different things.
THe black woman has been without her protector for a very long time for reasons that we mentioned and even today, their is something about the love/ relationships between the black man and woman , being taking for granted.. The black womans protector was reduced to nothing and it wasnt like all of them didnt or wouldnt try to prevent his woman from being taking or getting her back on some level, many times failing.
Do you think that this hatred between many black males and females that exist today,existed during slavery? Or was their love like everyone else's? Inclusive,cooperating, loyal etc?
You look at how black males and females speak and treat one another today and I cant but help to think that,the seeds were sown to hate one another. So, when I see this story line ,even during slavery, I know that , the false hate between many black men and women isn't a true one..A complicated one but not true.
I didn't assume anything. And their are many things that I can figure out.Many things that I had to experience myself. I'm a smart cookie but I was making an observation on these two characters. My reasons for stating what I said are valid. And your right, our history didn't begin or end with slavery, but in America, this is all that is known..
It is up to our own to tell those stories outside of America and the kingdoms that we built, the families and love units that existed. In america, like many things with us,we don't control anything for many reasons..As I stated before, Im not remotely suggestion that Tarantino is some savor. I was making an observation and a very valid one at that,during slavery, the black man was stripped of his woman..I wonder what that made him feel like knowing that he was powerless the majority of the time to do anything about it. But yet, we have examples of slaves rising up.Is it so far fetched to not believe that their were KINGS (black men) who did and would of done anything to get their woman back?
Why is this so believable with other races, but when it comes to the black woman in america,this is fictional? Is that one image of the black man protecting his woman troublesome to you and other men and if so why? i'm just a asking because I really want your view on it..Just because we don't hear about it,doesn't mean it didn't exist..Is that trivial to you because, a lot of reasons that I'm hearing from black males, and some men is that,just like so many of you(not you) can justify treating a black female and woman, on some levels , just as bad as those slave owners by justifying ,treating black women as men, complaining about black women having attitudes, making babies with them and walking away, not marrying them, helping to reduce them to nothing more that baby mommas,of just vessels to carry seeds only, UNWORTHY OF the black mans love for reasons that you and I should both understand.The black woman is a flower just like any other race of woman.Delicate but strong....
.And it's so ironic to me because during slavery, it was the white man that made black women( slaves) babies momma's by raping them,tricking them, impregnating them, and walking away not claiming what was theirs..So , how did the reverse happen with the black male? So lets fast forward to 2012 about to be 2013 were we should be able to think on our own and make the link between what was purposely done back then, and the free will we had and have now to fix it.
Somehow, many of us choose to continue on the same kind of tactics that were forced on us.by thinking that, having the love of one woman is strange, having children with just one woman, is strange, having the protection of one man is strange,doing whatever it takes from a black man, who wants his wife back is strange,turning his back on her is strange, knowing,visually ,the pain that took place.Their was a time when much couldn't be done about this during slavery but somehow, today, many of us purposely inflict the same kind of behaviors onto one another. How we talk to one another when we have a difference of opinion,comparing black women to other women as if other women are better.The treatment of the AFrican American woman and how she is still viewed by men..
Even though, like slavery, women were treated like a piece of trash from her slave owners and White people in general, that raped,reproduced with her, over and over again like cattle, tortured her,and played PSYCHOLOGICAL warfare with her mind and body, without the majority of their men, being able to do much about it, I do find that that LONE black man to be of great importance as a visual for BLACK MALES AND MEN TO SEE..Absolutely..It is of the same importance as Harriet Tubman,Nat Turner and all of the other NAMELESS BLACK MEN(SLAVES IN THEIR EYES) who DIED trying to do something about their families and black woman being taken from them. In this film,its fiction,but their are some parallels that can be drawn from it.And their is hope in that.
OBSERVATIONS!!!!!!
Well said, CourtneyR. I do not hold up Quentin Tarantino as some sort of hero because he liberally sprinkles the N-bomb in his movies. The thing is that white people--even your good white friends--drop the N-bomb all the time.
I grew up in the late 50s and early 60s when white men would take pride in seeing how many times they could call you boy before you got upset and did something crazy. Calling you boy was another code word for the N-bomb.
Yeah Lexe, I'm burnt out on hollywood black servitude, slavery and white supremacy movies. I personally don't feel like slavery ever ended because black people still here they never let us leave their presence in Mass like they brought us in Mass.
To top it off most of black people Still have to either work at white owned companies to survive and some have to depend on white government assistance. Oooh big deal Django shoots at white people on film we all know who got the last laugh about slavery and it sure as hell ain't us.
USA Black people are strong men, women, doctors, lawyers, senators, mayors, professors, presidents and more. HOWEVER! if you say we are not Still captives and prisoners of war you are Fooling yourself. Give me roots, shaka zulu, mandingo and maafa over this Django mess anyday.
That's what I'm talking about!!! I'm neither pro or con this movie, but I do have a problem with our TRUE history being romanticized and white atrocities downplayed. For those with knowledge of self and TRUE history it's o.k. to watch/read fictionalized material. The problem is MOST don't know or understand TRUE history and may walk away feeling that slavery was "not THAT bad". A stance whites are attempting to do now by altering history books dealing with slavery(which are not accurate to begin with)to our school children. The result leaves Blacks defending the very systems(white supremacy)that oppress them. Interestingly enough, stories depicting TRUE history are often rejected in favor of fictionalized accounts.
Your question was not addressed to me, but I would like to take a stab at answering it from my prospective. First, let me say that I am a great fan of your posts and I tend to agree with 99% of your views(And I'm not in opposition here). When depicting historical events or eras, we must hold fast the the TRUTH as much as possible. Under slavery(and today to a certain degree)we had NO right to marriage or serious relationships. Blacks existed under white supremest systems which included unfettered CONTROL of Black people. Was there LOVE between Black men and women during slavery? I'm positive there were. Were there men who defied the system and went looking for their wives? I'm sure there were. But the reality is that was not the norm. When truth is not told in it's entirety, it leaves room to invent and miss lead. A co-worker once told me that Black women didn't have to work during Jim Crow BECAUSE his great grandmother was a house wife. While that may be true, the reality is MOST Black women had to work. Now if he made a movie and use his grandmother's experience as the norm for ALL or most Black women during that era, it would be miss leading and romanticizing that era. Younger people or those without knowledge of self and true history would walk away thinking Jim Crow was not "that bad" when in fact it was horrendous. The flip side of this is we don't really want to see true historical events as we are ashamed of that period. Thus, Hollywood, who's major concern is money, give us fictionalized movies in order to make money. Further, the system of white supremacy will not permit us to CONTROL our images or communities. That's why we have parades, dinners, and holidays annually for MLK and little or NOTHING for Malcolm. Real movie depictions of Nat Turner, Demark Vasey, Marcus Garvey, etc is not allowed as it challenges white supremacy and they can't allow that. The issue of Black love NEEDS to be addressed and exposed, I'm just not sure if this movie and the time period it represents is the right venue for that. I probably won't RUSH out to see it, but I'm sure I will see it at some point as I try to support as many Black projects as I can.
To your point, I believe if Blacks, especially males, were taught that love/relationships are a privilege that once were denied them, and that the same system operates now to drive wedges between Black men and women, they would view love/relationships in a different light.
This in essence, is what I was getting at. Why not start were the problem started to fix it? why not depict those positive relationships and hardships the black man and woman had to endure but still, found a way to stand by one another ?Afterall, if they could of made it through that, the relationships between black men and women can make it through anything today.
I feel like so many of us believe that kind of relationship didnt exist with us, during that time period when in fact, it did.All we hear is that the black man was taken away, murdered, children women and men sold, which we were,and the black woman left to fend for herself, which she was, without any protection at all, which happened the majority of the time.but as soon as a slave is empowered , the black man slave empowered ,that fought back, it is swept under the rug as if it is of no importance.
Nothing fictional about that, just dont want us to know. In my opinion, it has to also be told responsibly through the eyes of slavery.im not ashamed of my ancestors and what they went through because it was of no fault of our own and showed were that kind of evil was coming from, who created it in the first place.IF anything, it showed the vitality of the black
Courtney, I respect your opinion and love this post, but I can't. I just don't see this as a kind of love story. Kerry W is raped twice in the movie by white men according to a review. On top of that, the excessive and over-the-top use of the n-word is just going to be one more justification for why they will feel they can use. QT has a solid track record of exploiting blacks and our culture. Add into it the fact that there was absolutely nothing amusing about slavery so where could you possibly work that in and I'm done.
At the end of the day, this movie is going to do a lot of damage to our story at a time in which White America is actively trying to rewrite it. I mean, we have a generation of children that really believes that slavery wasn't "all that bad." This movie (especially to their young minds) just reinforces that belief. These kids were ready to wear a pair of shackles for fun. Imagine what they will be willing to accept after sitting in the theater with this nonsense?
Black women need to know that there was a time and not so long ago that white men raped them with almost no impunity. Black people--especially the younger generation--need to know that white people drop the N-bomb all the time. They dropped it back then and they drop it now when no black people are around. There has never been a time since we encountered white people where we have not had integration. Integration is not the answer. Having your own stuff and controlling your own markets and being able to defend the weakest among you is the answer.
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Why would he or Samuel L. Jackson try to force a man to say it if the man doesn't want to say it? The slave mentality didn't die in 1865. I will never bow before some director that says that word in private conversations outside of a movie in real life without apologies. Also, they will say it anyway. Just don't say in my face. Even some in the so called conscious community are either silent on Django Unchained or try to justify the movie. The truth is silent by tokens and compromisers, but not real human beings. It is a shame that in this generation the house movie stars will continue to love their Master. This new generation of token are not filled with the Tiger Woods types. They are too easy to figure out. They or the neo House Negroes use the lingo and imitate urban culture, but they are just as wrong as Clarence Thomas. They claim to love us, but many of them refuse to talk about real, engaging issues of war, peace, civil liberties, labor, and real, tangible power. You do not have to agree with my views, but these are my views. I was tempted to write more controversial words, but I won't do it.
Here's the thing ,no one that I read ever said to not recognize we were slaves because in fact knowing that you were ,should motivate us to be more cohesive and determined to succeed.
What your selfish butt and those like you can't understand is that the older folk are tired of seeing this.But in today's world it's all about me,so you go ahead and see this trash and I'm sure you will have wished you would have listened to the grown ups!!!
btw if you want to give yourself a gift of a slavery movie,it doesn't really speak highly of how you think about yourself let alone your people.But that is a whole nother story. And to go to the movies on Christ's Day,you are out there,you've really assimilated to the bs.
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Jeff wrote:
Nope it could not have. Haplogroup N is strictly a
Eurasian marker and it arose MUCH LATER after the OOA migrations in Eurasia. The
people who were carrying it were not African origin people, they were Eurasians
since they have already evolved into various types while living in cold adapted
regions of Eurasia.
No offense Jeff, but your statement is
very baseless. Again N arose BEFORE the Human tree branching. The OOA does not
mean HG splitting. I'm not completely saying N was a African hg. But how
"Eurasian" was it? N could have arose in African origin people.
"Studies of
human mtDNA genomes demonstrate that the root of the human
phylogenetic tree
occurs in Africa. Although two mtDNA lineages with an African
origin
(haplogroups M and N) were the progenitors of all non-African
haplogroups,
macrohaplogroup L (including haplogroups L0-L6) is limited to
sub-Saharan Africa.
Several L haplogroup lineages occur most frequently in
eastern Africa (e.g., L0a, L0f,
L5, L3g), but some are specific to certain
ethnic groups, such as haplogroup lineages L0d
and L0k that previously have
been found nearly exclusively among southern African
“click” speakers. Few
studies have included multiple mtDNA genome samples
belonging to haplogroups
that occur in eastern and southern Africa but are rare or absent
elsewhere.
This lack of sampling in eastern Africa makes it difficult to infer
relationships
among mtDNA haplogroups or to examine events that occurred
early in human history." http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2...
How profoundly ignorant of Serena and some of the comments . I read someone state " We will never overcome racism" . My question is does this person know what racism is and since when do black people have to overcome it. Maybe white people should try to overcome demeaning black people? In addition , her teasing Serena would not be a big deal if the history of white people had not been filled with such disrespect toward black women. Clearly people have not heard of Hottentot Venus who was paraded and caged around Europe due to her shape. The Jezebel stereotype was created in the 1630's by white men. It is a sick and self-serving stereotype pushed by slave-masters that has not yet died out. Slave-masters forced black slave women to sleep with them. Deep down they knew it was wrong, that it was a crime, even if the law allowed it (it did – black women were their property). But instead of telling the truth about themselves, they chose to tell a lie about black women. Black women had no way to call them on it and even white women believed it. It has lasted down to our time, finding new life in Hollywood, starting in the 1970s with blaxpoitation films, and later with hip hop . Sadly , some of us still have bought into the idea .The Jim Crow exhibit can be viewed at the Ferris University website. I suggest black people look at it . Serena's ignorance is dangerous because it allows our boys and girls to think that black women as successful as Serena can be reduced to only being “bootylicious” and “assets.” The black woman is beautiful like no other but she is more than just big ol breasts and a big butt. Its amazing how many black people take the view of Booker T Washington and want to defend or minimize the conduct of white people. Serena sounds profoundly stupid and I am confused. You may have heard of or seen 16-year-old Taylor Townsend, a tennis star that won the Austrlian Open as a 14th seed and also won the doubles tournament with her partner Gabrielle Andrews earlier this year. Or maybe you heard her name when she won the 2012 Wimbledon Championships. Townsend had dreams of competing in the US Open Junior Tournament, but the US Tennis Association chose not to fund her travel, and turned down her request to compete as a wild card in the main draw at Flushing Meadows. Reason: she’s overweight. Serena defended her and now she defends people mocking at her body. I guess Serena now feels Townsend can be teased as well and I guess we blacks need to lighten up . Let the whites have a good laugh. They mean well anyway . What is really unsettling is that people who paved the way for Serena like Althea Gibson displayed class in the face of extreme racism. Althea Gibson NEVER defended it . Despite her success on the court, the specter of segregation hounded her. She was still barred from some clubs where prestigious tournaments were played. The same clubs Serena plays in today
Do you believe you enhanced my knowledge of true racism? It's not about her being crushed based on my decision, but moreso how I preceive her based on my decision. Being a celebrity has nothing to do with what type of world they live in...too many celebrities forget where they come from. I'm not implying that she returns to South Central...I'm typing about her upbringing, values, morals and her understanding of how yt people see Black people.
what is bottom-y?
Serena, watch yourself dear...If she were your friend, she would never of displayed that behavior publicly to be taken out of context in the first place. Given the racist nature of the world. I like Serena but this is something she will have to go through to learn how to guard herself..If she is letting it role off her back, I understand but still keep those eyes open and keep your eyes on your money.
Note this...R1 came from the South and east, carried by tropical people
from Africa and Asia....
"In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most
frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe, parts of central
Eurasia (for example Bashkortostan[3]), and in parts of sub-Saharan Central
Africa (for example around Chad and Cameroon). R1b is also present at lower
frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of
North Africa, South Asia, and Siberia. Due to European emigration it also
reaches high frequencies in the Americas and Australia. While Western Europe is
dominated by the R1b1a2 (R-M269) branch of R1b, the Chadic-speaking area in
Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1c (R-V88). These represent two
very successful "twigs" on a much bigger "family tree."
So if R1b entered
Europe from Southern Spain and the South West, where do you think it came
from?
@ diaryofanegress
Congratulations (on not watching TV)
One reason I wrote this post is to discourage black people from being “embarrassed” by the news of another black politician under indictment — and to shed a suspicious light on the systematic attack on black legislators.
I have read many comments from black people saying they’re ashamed whenever a black politician is accused of a crime.
That is nothing but our slave training, when we make non-blacks’ opinions of us more valuable than our opinion of ourselves.
I always ask people, if that black person did whatever they did, what does that have to do with you personally? Did you do it?
Are white people ashamed when a white politician is indicted or a white person commits a crime?
It takes some training to overcome these programmed feelings but it can be done.
my advice: if YOU didn’t do the crime, DON’T do someone else’s time
Fact remains: U6 found in 30k remains in Maghreb,
in remains whose morphology is clearly Eurasian, in fact most similar to
European Cro-Magnon.
Explain that, Mikey. And nothing but Eurasian DNA in
that population until 20k bp in Tunisia, but in Morocco pure Eurasian DNA until
12k bp.
You really have to deal with the EVIDENCE before running off on your
half-baked tangents. U is Eurasian, fool.
You're a d_---.
You indirectly admitted the Cro-Magnon had similar morphology to Africans. You
said Cro-Magnon were tropical adapted. Which I was saying all along. I don't
think you know what tropically adapted means. http://black-earth.webs.com/apps/blog/show/21...
Things
still not countered:
1. N predating human family tree branching out.
2. U6
absent in Siwa Berbers(closest to original Berbers)
3. Arabia/Levant being
"extra Africa".
4. U HG arising around the OOA
5. U6 found in certain West
African ethics that lived on the edge of society with no mixes.
6. Back and
forth movements of Africans between Africa and Arabia.
7. Only Ñegroid
remains found in Egypt around 30,000 BC which clusters with other
Africans.
8. Today Berbers and North Africans mostly showing E hg
9.
Afro-Asiatic originally being in East Africa.
10. Early paintings of Berbers
showing them in brown complexion.
There is a tradition among Europeans--left, right & center--of respect for
intellectual life, culture, art, etc. Even British conservatives recognize that
Obama, whatever his other limitation, is still a man of culture and
intellect....and INTELLECTUALLY SUPERIOR to white right wing clowns like Romney,
Palin, Michelle Backman and others.
Obama is schooled not
only in Law and political science, but also philosophy, literature and the arts.
That's appreciated in Europe more so than here.
That may be
one of the reasons that I was more well received in France than most of my white
compatriots.
-Savant
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Just as I thought. Jake can't read or think. So we won't wait for him to read
and critique CAPITALISM AND SLAVERY.
But if he knew any
history, he'd know that MILLIONS of white workers and peasants in Europe (and
America) were reduced to a semi-slave status, reduced to the status of pack
animals. Numerous European writers--incluing Zola, Victor Hugo, Carlyle, and
others--wrote extensively about the destruction of white European lives by
industrial capitalist barbarism.
Since Jackass Jake won't
read, I'd like to put him into a time machine and send him back to those
"satanic mills" of the late 18th and 19th centuries.
Eric Williams talks about this in CAPITALISM AND SLAVERY. But white racists
don't want to accept the fact that Black labor created the foundation of the
Industrial Revolution.
The Dims have NEVER been a Truly progressive party!
The Democrat party first came to national prominence w the election of that
{in}Famous Slave Owning / Indian Killer- Pres Andrew Jackson in 1828! From that
point until at least the advent of FDR the Dims were more influenced by
Dixie-crats than by liberal / progressives. In fact Dixie-crats were a main-stay
force within the Dims until LBJ's era [who himself was a TX Dixie-crat]- when
afterwards Tricky Dick Nixon employed his race-tinged 'Southern Strategy' which
drew Dixie-crats who were disgruntled over the Civil-Rights & Voting-Rights
act, into a new home w the Repugs, solidified further by so-called 'Reagan
Democrats'.
This history of Dixie-crats in the Party of Andrew [Slave-Owning / Indian
Killin] Jackson is the main reason Blacks faithfully voted for the GOP party of
Lincoln for 60yrs till the advent of FDR's 'New Deal' - when the Dims adopted
the name Party of FDR. With all due respect to Dr Mike Dyson- The Democrat
Party- Has Never Been a progressive party. They at best have been a 'centrist' /
moderately 'liberal' party under FDR, JFK & Carter. Since the advent of
Slick Willie & now under Obama they are a Pro - Wall St Bankster / Pro
Corporate [= anti working-class though backed by Big Union leadership]-
'centrist' party w so-called 'liberal' positions RE: so-called 'Gay'-marriage
& abortion.
Obama is a combo of the pro Wall St / pro-Corporate / Repug
triangulating tendencies of Slick Willie intertwined w the pro- Police State
policies under the Bushites phony 'War on Terror' paradigm- on the
domestic front... - In combo w the war-making / regime-change foreign
policy agenda ofLBJ, Tricky Dick / Heinz Kissinger &
Reagan/ [Mr CIA / Skull{Duggery}&
Bones]Bush Sr!The fact that Obama
seemingly publicly praises Repug Ronnie Reagan far more than FDR &/or JFK
should tell Dr Mike Dyson that Obama's not an FDR styled Democrat!
PS: Interestingly enough the most pro-peace [or at-least non-war making] US
Pres in recent memory was Jimmy Carter. Yet Obama has twice shunned him at DNC
confabs in 2008 & now in 2012- by refusing to allow the living elder
states-man of the Democrat party to speak at Obama's nominating conventions.
especially when they contradict the White Narrative.
The latest dust-up in the sports world has political correct police all a
twitter:
Rob Parker Suspended: ESPN Suspends Commentator Over Controversial RG3
Comments http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/rob-parker-suspended-espn-rg3_n_2301657.html?utm_hp_ref=detroit&ir=Detroit
RG3:
"For me, you don't ever want to be defined by the color of your skin,''
Griffin said at the end of Wednesday's post-practice news conference in
reference to a question about Martin Luther King, Jr. "You want to be defined by
your work ethic, the person that you are, your character, your personality.
That's what I've tried to go out and do.
"I am an African-American in America. That will never
change. But I don't have to be defined by that.''
The league's highest-rated passer, who has led the 7-6 Redskins into
postseason contention with 10 of his 18 touchdowns thrown during a four-game win
streak, said he is aware of why so many black Redskins fans take reflected pride
in his success.
"I am aware how much race is relevant to them,'' RGIII said. "I don't ignore
it. I try not to be defined by it. But I understand different persectives and
how people view different things. I understand that they're excited that their
quarterback is an African-American. I play with a lot of pride, a lot of
character, a lot of heart. I understand that. I appreciate them for being fans
and not just fans because they're African-Americans.'' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/rob-parker-suspended-espn-rg3_n_2301657.html?utm_hp_ref=detroit&ir=Detroit
"Is he a brother or is he a cornball brother?" Parker said on "First Take."
When asked to elaborate, Parker continued. "Well, he’s black, he kind of does
his thing. But he’s not really down with the cause, he’s not one of us. He’s
kind of black. But he’s not really the guy you’d really want to hang out with
because he’s off to do something else."
While his comments sparked outrage on social media platforms, Parker took to
Twitter and called some of his critics "uneducated" and "silly."
When it turned out that ESPN was one of those critics, Parker stopped
tweeting .
EC: The Right Wing media can say racially charged
things, literally EVERY DAY if not every week, they never get "suspended" or
reprimanded. I get where RG3 is coming from but, Ni#$a Puhleez in this day in
age in American ,where the gloves are increasingly coming off and White folks
feel completely unihibited to say what they really think, and objectively using
Obama as exhibit A whether you like Obama or not, you have to be a d______ fool not
to believe you are not defined by your Blackness.
So I understand where Parker was coming from even if he said in inelegantly.
You have to be a chump and a coward to say what RG3 said. He could said,
"You know I wish we were not defined by race, but it's hard to say that
mindset doesn't linger when you read and hear some of the slings and arrows
thrown at the President and First Lady. I wish some of the rhetoric were not so
heated and we can honestly conversate about race in America.
I don't want to be defined by race." Well guess what, no Black person does,
but you d____ sure gone be. But don't tell that to the White folks who do it
everyday on Faux News and in the workplace because CNN tells you it ain't so.
CNN still holding onto the post-racial b______ Big Lie. Apparently, so is RG3
whom I love as a player. But he d____ show got a case of amnesia.
Where's Jim Brown and Abdul Jabbar when you need them? http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp
p.s. This is the same network that HIRED RUSH LIMBAUGH and here's how they
defended him when Rush was just being Rush: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1627887
PHILADELPHIA -- Donovan
McNabb has been to three straight Pro Bowls and two consecutive NFC
championship games, and was runner-up for NFL MVP in his first full season as a
starter.
Still, commentator Rush Limbaugh saw fit to question the quarterback's
credentials.
Before McNabb led the Philadelphia Eagles
to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills,
Limbaugh said on ESPN's "Sunday NFL Countdown" that McNabb is overrated.
However, Limbaugh injected his comment with racial overtones that have set off a
controversy.
"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go,"
Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the
NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is
a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance
of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."
ESPN released an official statement Wednesday night.
"Although Mr. Limbaugh today stated that his comments had 'no racist intent
whatsoever,' we have communicated to Mr. Limbaugh that his comments were
insensitive and inappropriate. Throughout his career, he has been consistent in
his criticism of the media's coverage of a myriad of issues," the statement
read. Earlier, ESPN executive vice president Mark Shapiro came to the
conservative Limbaugh's defense.
"This is not a politically motivated comment. This is a sports and media
argument," Shapiro was quoted as saying in a USA Today column published
Wednesday. "Rush was arguing McNabb is essentially overrated and that his
success is more in part [due] to the team assembled around him.
(shucks, looks like White folks get to define what the Racist White guy
thinks and says as well as the "angry" Black man)
"We brought Rush in for no-holds-barred opinion. Early on, he has delivered,"
Shapiro told USA Today.
ESPN spokesman Dave Nagle said Tuesday that Limbaugh doesn't do
interviews.
"It's sad that you've got to go to skin color. I thought we were through with
that whole deal," McNabb told the Philadelphia Daily News.
Enlightened Cynic, while I agree with much of your analysis on various
subjects, I see $250k per year as indeed rich. Just because that amount is seen
as a trifle in overpriced cities like New York, Chicago, San Francisco and Los
Angeles doesn't mean that it is a minor amount.
The national median income is around $50k. Five times the national median is
enough in most of the country to:
Purchase a McMansion and a vacation home (plus property taxes and
upkeep)
Purchase and maintain 2 or 3 cars
Send your kids to private school
Take two or more vacations a year
Save for retirement
That's sounds rich to me. Not obscenely wealthy, but pleasantly prosperous.
They should pay their fair share of taxes like all other citizens.
Let's pose another question, actually two:
1. Why can't unions defeat Right Wingish Democratic politicians for seats in
Congress or the White House?, and
2. Why can't the NAACP adequately address issues of
hunger and economic justice.
The answer for both is RELEVANCY. It's hard to win fights when you lose
relevancy. When oppositional institutions become coopted they are no longer
relevant. Globalization is arguably the biggest reason for union's demise,
relevancy is a close second, the creeping facist mindset in America is in the
mix also.
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is is Important Back-Ground Info EC for Proper Context-
Nixakliel - 12/15/2012 - 01:07
While In pricipal I'm in favor of collective-bargaining rights for the
working-class- especially viv-a-vis this Corp Capitalist system- BUT: Too many
big Unions in the US [especially at the leadership level] have had a history
some questionable positions on too many issues.
So This guy [the UAW Head] picked a fight that he was warned he'd loose &
what the price would be if he pushed it too far, yet he did it any way, without
even bothering to get input from key members of his constituency??? I think the
word for that is ARROGANT & DUMB!!! You don't pick a fight like this from a
position of weakness- if you really don't have to. This guy rolled the dice
& loss, so IMO the UAW rank & file needs to kick his ass to the curb for
that blunder.
First of all if this MI so-called 'Right-to-Work' law does is give
workers the choice to pay union dues [or not] themselves, instead of
automatically deducting them from workers salaries [though I suspect there's
more to it than that], the answer to that is, as ex-UAW man Frank Hammer said-
do what unions used to do to collect dues- Go around to the members &
potential members & explain & justify just why they should pay their
union dues.
But lets not get too sentimental about all unions.
Most police & firemen's unions [as well as others] had traditionally locked
Blacks & Browns out of those jobs for Decades- up till the 1960s, 70s &
80s. Cop Unions have also most often been a BIG impediment in the cause of
justice, when cops commit police-brutallity & even gun-down unarmed Blacks
& Hispanics! And Big Unions didn't even really push to get more Unions in
the South- home to most so-called 'Right-to-Work' laws [FYI: Anti-union
slave-labor behemoth Wallmart started in Billary's state of AR]. Nor did they
seriously push for some important issues for working-class / working-poor folks
in general IE: increasing the minimum wage to a living wage, directly linking
CEO / CFO salaries to either the minimum wage &/or the ave worker's salary,
a national policy for full-employment at a living wage, Medicare for all, etc.
Thus their traditional view has been fatally myopic & self-centered [IE; a
'Can't see the Forest for the Trees' type Mentality]- leading to their
steady decline.
Too many unions are also too closely tied to the
Dimo-crap party. The first big sell-out of unions by Dims in the post New Deal
era, was when Truman used the Taft-Hartley Act 12Xs to break Union strikes. But
Chris Hedges said that the when Slick Willie signed NAFTA- Unions should have
cut the Dims loose BIG Time! Never-the-less AFL-CIO Pres Trumpka backed Obama
again in 2012 even though Obama reneged on his 2008 Card-Check promise & the
US; biggest teachers' union backed Obama even in the face of his & Arne
Duncan's [& Rambo's] RTTT onslaught against Teachers' Unions...
But back to the UAW, they backed GM's, Ford's, &
Chrystler's roll out of the dubious SUV craze beginning in the 1980s & also
joined Detroit's Big 3 in opposing increasing CAFE mileage standards- which
would have put a damper on the SUV craze.
In other words too many big US Unions have gone 'All
In' w the Dims & Corp Capitalism. So now they're paying the price, as the
Dims in cahoots w the Repugs & BIG BIZ, have sold-out the US' working-class-
Big Time! [PS: It was S.Africa's main Trade Union, along w S.Africa's main
so-called 'Communist' Party- that backed the ANC's bloody 'Gestapo' type attack
against those miners that left 37 Black miners in Marikana dead. This clearly
indicates what can happen when a so-called 'progressive' movement goes all in w
Globalized NeoLiberal Gorp Capitalism- against the best interests of the people
& workers.]
Reading your comments makes me think that.It's ok to have ideological differences among us & to discuss 'which way we should go' but in my opinion,if some r trying to better the Black community by opposing assimilation & fostering independence than ALL Black people trying to move towards that should b supported for the greater good of all.It would b nice if Black people stat to actually like & support Black people,so that it can b shown & proved that someone,somewhere does.
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