Monday, February 20, 2012

Wisdom and Knowledge



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nodoubt10 1 day ago in reply to shbkyn

Great book, but I think you have to be very mature in your thinking to be able to read, understand, and apply the knowledge it provides.

Another commenter below brought up Dr. DeGruy who is similar to Dr. Cress-Welsing, but she emphasizes more on Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. You can catch her video on youtube and she also has a book.
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CarolinaSistah 16 hours ago in reply to nodoubt10

Thank you for turning me on to Dr. DeGruy. What an outstanding black woman! I too plan to order her book.

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I will not agree with you whole heartly, but I understand your point. Here is the thing, when you talk about PTSS, and you read Dr. Cress book, she breaks it down for you, in other words, she is talking about the symptoms of PTSS, that we see played out in our people every day.



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KhalidX Moderator 1 day ago

Elmina Castle

I began to understand Europeans' wickedness during a tour of Elmina Castle, about a half-hour's drive west of Cape Coast.

Erected by the Portuguese in 1482, Elmina was later occupied by the Dutch. The tour began in front of a cell marked with a black-and-white plaster skull above the entrance.

"This became the death cell, the cell of no return," the guide said, home to unruly slaves. "That's why the Dutch put the skull and crossbones over it."

As our guide led the group up to the Dutch governor's quarters, he explained that the lofty, wooden hall, full of wide windows and fresh sea air, was built above the dungeons.

The governor would send for slave women from below to rape as young as 6

excerpted from: Gloria J. Browne-Marshall, Failing Our Black Children: Statutory Rape Laws, Moral Reform and the Hypocrisy of Denial (2002) (Footnotes Omitted)

"Powerless against a lustful husband and blind to the harsh realities of chattel slavery, the enraged wife often vented her jealous rage upon the one person whom she could control, the black woman." English law governed the "American" English colonists. The Virginia Colony was an English franchise. The English colonies adopted most of the components of English Law which included statutory rape provisions. The colonists were also governed by a militaristic code of "Lawes, Divine, Morall and Martiall, based on the Bible. These moralistic laws did not prevent the exploitation of female servants by male masters. Male and female Africans were brought by ship to Jamestown, Virginia, in 1619. These Africans were not considered slaves. Prior to the arrival of Africans, most distinctions between peoples were based on class and intra-European ethnic divisions. White immigrants were brought to the colonies to meet the inordinate need for labor. Although the Africans in the colonies were not slaves they did not have legal protections equal to that of the White non-servant colonists from Europe. As the benefits of slavery increased the profits of the European colonists, legal protections for Blacks within the colony became the exception to the rule. Indians were also enslaved in several of the colonies.

Colonial laws regarding statutory rape were not applied to Blacks and Indians. Indians and Blacks, as well as their children, were prohibited by law from defending themselves against abuse, sexual and otherwise, at the hands of Whites. A slave who defended herself against the attack of a White person was subject to cruel beatings by either the master or mistress. Liaisons between Whites and Blacks or Indians were illegal. The females of color received the harshest punishment if discovered in a liaison with a White male. Females of color, regardless of their young age, were viewed as seducers of White men. Pregnancy became the evidence of the illegal liaison. A mulatto baby the indicator of the race of the father - White male. The child, by statute took the status of the mother and is thus born into slavery. The full benefit of the relationship and the off-spring enured to the White male. Under English precedent, the status of children was determined by the father. The colonists changed the law to increase the wealth and domination of the White master who had eliminated certain costs of purchasing human labor by becoming "a breeder of slaves." The Black female, woman or child, was forced into sexual relationships for the White slave master’s pleasure and profit.

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BlackHeywood Moderator 4 days ago

This is an award well deserved, Ms Hughes is a hero for us and I thank her for TV One it is the best Black based TV station today. Thank you Ms.Hughes for not turning your back on your own people as someone else did.
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Brother, I like that you are sharing this information, as I have read much more history on how, and what they did to our people, and the Indians, also. But here is the thing, you have these whites and others coming on this site, degrading black people, but when we submit the history of them, and their violence, against us, what they have to say about us, fatherless, welfare leaches, and so forth, when it was them who caused us to be in this condition, how you going have the concious to say what some of these racist have been saying? But we will continue to put it out there, I have so much I can talk about it will give them the swimming in the head. They cannot talk about, or put nobody down. They have the nerve to call black people violent, obviously, they do not know their history, or just think what they did, nothing is wrong with it. They are nothing but a bunch of racist narcissts, cold blooded dogs.
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2428 wrote:
Kind of reminds me of how h_____ are still mad at Chris Brown for assaulting Rhianna, but they're so quick to forgive Charlie Sheen, Mel Gibson and other white men who have assaulted their women. Whenever we do something, it's multiplied by 10 compared to when they do something.
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Read the book on Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome . This is why dear brother.

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome (P.T.S.S.) is a condition that exists as a consequence of multigenerational oppression of Africans and their descendants resulting from centuries of chattel slavery. A form of slavery which was predicated on the belief that African Americans were inherently/genetically inferior to whites. This was then followed by institutionalized racism which continues to perpetuate injury.

Thus, resulting in M.A.P.:

M: Multigenerational trauma together with continued oppression;
A: Absence of opportunity to heal or access the benefits available in the society; leads to
P: Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome.

Under such circumstances these are some of the predictable patterns of behavior that tend to occur:
Key Patterns of behavior reflective of P.T.S.S.

Vacant Esteem
Insufficient development of what Dr. DeGruy refers to as primary esteem, along with feelings of hopelessness, depression and a general self destructive outlook.

Marked Propensity for Anger and Violence
Extreme feelings of suspicion perceived negative motivations of others. Violence against self, property and others, including the members of one's own group, i.e. friends, relatives, or acquaintances.

Racist Socialization and (internalized racism)
Learned Helplessness, literacy deprivation, distorted self-concept, antipathy or aversion for the following:

The members of ones own identified cultural/ethnic group,
The mores and customs associated ones own identified cultural/ethnic heritage,
The physical characteristics of ones own identified cultural/ethnic group.
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I will get the book, sounds like a good read.

Another good piece is BRAINWASHED [Challenging the Myth of Black Inferiority] by Tom Burrell

YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PUT THIS ONE DOWN!!! He writes about how Blacks suffer from BI (Black Inferiority) and how after 150 years since the Emancipation Proclamation and negroids still think they are slaves and ACT LIKE SLAVES.

He states that our SELF-DEFEATING ATTITUDES AND BEHAVIOR has Black people messed up. He also says that racism is not the issue, how we respond to media distortions and programmed self-hatred is the issue.

Here's a question out of the book: Why, despite our apparent strength, intelligence, and resourcefulness, do we continue to lag behind and languish in so many aspects of american life?

ANSWER: The answer is intricately linked to the hundreds of years Blacks have lived with white guilt and Black shame. It lurks just beneath the surface of the american consciousness, like a cancer that can't be healed because it can't be discussed honeslty and openly.

Peace & Truth
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Yes indeed . I read his book . You will love Dr. Joy. I think she is deeper than Tom Burrell .Both speak of the same issue .
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blondegirl214 wrote:
they are both, but here in america they are treated as only one- no matter what they call themselves.
Well regardless of how they are classified in America when they leave the States and enter the big wide modern world they become Bi-racial... How comes, did their skin colour change on the airplane?... No, America, has it "COMPLETELY" wrong. However, the survey done in America shows that white people there are now slowly accepting and acknowledging the difference.

I want my black brothers and sisters living in the states to realise this fact very soon, because when the Bi-racials catch onto this, they will probably start to use the term "Bi-racial" instead of "Black" to identify themselves.
-The Revolutionist
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BLACKstarPAYNEModerator2 months agoin reply to Iwillbfree
My brother. I hear under what you are saying. But where I disagree is who we drop the hammer on. In my opinion, SEAHAG, WHOWANTSTOKNOW, and COACCO are not the enemy. In my view, they are very strong allies. They seem to be able to see things for what they really are. There are MANY lost sisters and brothers on here. But I just don't think these ladies deserve the treatment that is being dished out to them.

I know you gotta be the HAMMER, and I respect that. But you and I are BOTH belivers in the original scriptures and scrolls. So I must respectfully challenge you with this question. What good is it to know the truth, except the truth, but not live by that which you have studied and accepted? Itis not enough to just teach it my brother. WE GOTTA LIVE IT AND WALK IT. We already have plenty of negro fake preachers on tv teaching one thing but living something else.

If you disagree with our sisters then just disagree. And they can either take it or leave it alone. But if our GOAL is to educate and share information, then we need to do so in the manor that is in our nature. I AM STILL YOUR BROTHER. But we have to protect, love, and RESPECT our black women. EVEN THE ONES THAT WE DO NOT AGREE WITH.
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BLACKstarPAYNEModerator2 months agoin reply to Iwillbfree
My brother. I hear under what you are saying. But where I disagree is who we drop the hammer on. In my opinion, SEAHAG, WHOWANTSTOKNOW, and COACCO are not the enemy. In my view, they are very strong allies. They seem to be able to see things for what they really are. There are MANY lost sisters and brothers on here. But I just don't think these ladies deserve the treatment that is being dished out to them.

I know you gotta be the HAMMER, and I respect that. But you and I are BOTH belivers in the original scriptures and scrolls. So I must respectfully challenge you with this question. What good is it to know the truth, except the truth, but not live by that which you have studied and accepted? Itis not enough to just teach it my brother. WE GOTTA LIVE IT AND WALK IT. We already have plenty of negro fake preachers on tv teaching one thing but living something else.

If you disagree with our sisters then just disagree. And they can either take it or leave it alone. But if our GOAL is to educate and share information, then we need to do so in the manor that is in our nature. I AM STILL YOUR BROTHER. But we have to protect, love, and RESPECT our black women. EVEN THE ONES THAT WE DO NOT AGREE WITH.
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SimplyComplex_87Moderator2 months ago
women are attracted to bad boys because they offer excitement, and their confidence is usually unmatched. however, only foolish women remain around bad boys long enough to get burned. bad boys should never be taken seriously, and i think that's what many women fail to realize.

good men, don't fret! it may look like the bad boys are pulling all the women now, but a good woman will recognize you in the end. however, i will offer a tip for good men: be confident! i can't count the number of times i've encountered a recognizably good man who blew his chances by not believing in himself, even when the green light was given. all they had to do was be a man and take the lead...

bottom line: you don't have to be running the streets, disrespecting women and what-not to get a woman's attention...just be self-assured and everything else will fall into place.
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brownskin_beauty wrote:
I don't know maybe college life puts a different perspective on it, because most girls I know would only date an educated men. Well I personally love me an educated black man because they always posses something more than just book smarts. They posses something envied by other races because they defy the stereotypes that society has placed on them. When you see an educated brother you know he worked twice as hard and didn't give up or get distracted and didn't fall for the traps the devil set for him. Honestly to me there's nothing more attractive than an educated black guys
Real educated black men appreciate those comments. We brothers like educated sisters too since they refute the stereotypes. Also, the educated sisters (and sisters of numerous socioeconomic backgrounds) are still strong and apt to desire harmony and justice. A real man will always like a woman with a strong intellect and stimulating communication. The sister bashers have the same M.O. Brothers and Sisters have refuted these sellouts for years. The common demoniation in my opinion about all of them (or the women haters) is that these women-haters have low self esteem issues (Some of them lack social skills or they overexaggerate their life experiences as an excuse to scapegoat their own people in a sick fashion). The solution is to promote Black Unity among both genders and ignore these haters.

-By Timothy


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Fluke- wrote:
You both sound like White supremacists, albeit from a Black perspective .
That's very interesting. Unlike white supremacists, we don't advocate the extremination of innocent people, we don't advocate the lynching of people, we don't advocate the destruction of the black Tulsa community during the early 20th century, and we don't advocate massive eugenics. All of these nefarious, demented deeds have been done by white supremacists throughout human history.

Therefore, we who are black people love our people so much that we don't wish to dilute our strong cultural heritage in order to be bounded under colorblindness or mutually assured cultural destruction. A person promoting Black Power and a black cultural revolution to defeat moral degeneracy is not racism. It's just plain common sense. Africans in America and throughout the Earth aren't bowing to the status quo. The Asians, the Indians, the white ethnic groups, the Hispanics, etc. promoted this for years and there was no outcry of racism to those human beings. Yet, when we blacks promote our God-given right of self determination, we are called racists when we're not. We should just handle our business irrespective of the exceptations of white society.

-By Timothy
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dweeb wrote:

She can't handle the truth. Black women hate nice Black men. But love nice Non-BM. Especially White guys. Then they complain that White guys treat them better. It's BS.
Nice guys treat women nice. Bad guys treat women like booty calls. Black women LOVE Bad Black guys. It what turns them on.
That is the real truth. She is just in denial.
I disagree. Only a minority of black women want a thug or a bad boy (as opposed to real black men). The vast majority of black women just want a real strong black man. Unfortunately in our day and age, the word nice has been damned as being equated to a punk. Yet, the truth is being nice has nothing to do with being a punk or weak. You can be nice and strong socially at the same time. It's just the media and the establishment harbors an anti-intellectual, anti-social behavior ethos within Western society. Some blacks fall for the trap and act more nihilistic. While, other blacks see the handwriting on the wall and desire real revolutionary changes in the black community. Only the sellout Negroes (a minority) will love so-called nice white people and hate nice black people (of both genders). These Negroes are sick. So, BLACK WOMEN LOVE NICE BLACK MEN. IT'S JUST THAT BLACK WOMEN DON'T DESIRE SOME PUNK. SO WE WHO ARE BLACK MEN CAN'T ACT LIKE A PUNK. There is nothing wrong with being nice & being a nice black man, but we can't be passive toward oppression or evil.
-By Timothy
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BLACKstarPAYNEModerator2 months agoin reply to Iwillbfree
I have seen what they post and what you have posted. I am not trying to pick a side. My side is BLACK PEOPLE. My spirit is BLACK PEOPLE. My agenda is BLACK PEOPLE. I have said my peace to all parties. What you all do from here on is on all of you. The names I brought up were brought to my attention. That's why I brought them to you my brother. I have WASHED MY HANDS of this situation brothers and sisters.

AsSalaam Alaikum(PEACE BE UPON YOU)

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