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NIXAKLIE: I AGREE WITH MOST
cripes - 07/20/2012 - 03:49
Nixaklie: I agree with most of your points, especially refuting the idiotic idea that everyone in this economy (or any economy in the world today) can, will or should be college graduates in order to have employment with a living wage. Considering the fact that just 30.44% of adults 25 and over have bachelor's degrees and can't get employed,
what makes us think turning out more over-credentialled, unemployed, debt-burdened young people will fix structural unemployment? So they can compete for jobs at Starbucks with their English or business degrees? Really?
And how does this help workers aged 30-70 without degrees?
We do need an economy that will provide living wage employment--even, or especially--for non-degreed workers, which are 70% of our workforce.
The idea that we should push every single mom into forced (low-wage) employment while her children are infants is a hideous relic of Bill Clinton's personal responsibility work and reconciliation act, which also created countless new categories of life sentences for the prison system. Any connection there?
No, we need an economy that values the labor of women or men who are caretakers to children, elderly, disabled, students, etc., just like rich folks do for their families. An economy that uses the astounding efficiencies of technology and productivity gains to provide a better life for all, instead of profits for the few and back-breaking, mind-destroying labor for the rest.
WE JUST DON'T NEED, AND THIS ECONOMY CAN'T SUSTAIN, EVERY ADULT WORKING 2,600 HOURS A YEAR FOR 50 YEARS. (Sorry for shouting, but this needs repeating)
Christ, even the Japanese work fewer hours per year than we do.
We're being chumped with this calvinist BS that job-training and endless work will make our lives better. Then, when it doesn't work for everyone, because it CAN'T, blame the "losers" for not being "winners." Rinse, repeat.
H____, our grandfather's knew better a centruy ago when they fought for the 40 hour week, pensions, and the right to leisure.
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THE REAL NEWS HAS A SERIES CALLED 'THE ECONOMIC HUNGER GAMES'
Nixakliel - 07/21/2012 - 17:03
[@ http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=74&jumival=892 ]: Paul Jay Interviews Jeff Faux:
FAUX: 'We're shrinking the schools & laying off teachers, kids can't go to college because it costs too much. And we're not creating jobs for educated young people. You go into the Apple Store [or Best-Buy, Radio-Shack, etc] & there is the future. It's not technology. It's all those smart college-educated kids working as retail clerks for $10, $12 an hour. The Bureau of Labour Statistics projects that between 2010-2020, of the 10 largest & fastest-growing occupations in the US, only one requires a college education. The 20-somethings are going to turn into 30-somethings & then 40-somethings w dead-end jobs, because its the policy of both parties. After Reagan the sense of the future disappeared from American politics. Reagan came in & ripped out the solar panels that Jimmy Carter had put into the White House. The future would not be shaped by democratic government; the future would be shaped by the market. And we're still under Reagan's shadow. Obama & Clinton are under Reagan's shadow.- 'Globalization' can outsource anything that you can do w a computer. So lawyers' jobs, accountants jobs, market research jobs, etc- are all being outsourced- all the kinds of jobs that these kids, who are now graduating from college $20,000 - $30,000 - $40,000 in debt, thought they'd have...' { -- Thus people are going to have to ask the hard question- Is this 'Getting a College Degree = Success'- cliche' even necessarily true in today's economic reality?
Admittedly I first thought this NY-Times article was a direct in your face frontal attack on Black & Brown single moms. But when I read it I realized it was much more subtle than that. It used a white single mom is a very clever surrogate. But IMO The NY-Times did NOT pick her by chance- considering the small odds of a white girl from a small town in Iowa / MI w a 'Traditional Family Values' type back-ground- meeting a Black guy at a small private college in Iowa & having 3 out-of-wedlock kids by him, & then he cuts-out.
And then the article falsly equates college education w family stability & even personal virtue. It may be true that college educated women tend to marry before they start having kids, & are financially better off than most single moms- but I learned in my college [yeah me too] stats class that correlation does NOT necessarily = causation! It doesn't take a PhD to figure out that 22, 23, 24 yr old more mature adult women [= the age most folks graduate from college] are on average going to make better / more mature life choices than- 15, 16, 17, & even 18 yr old Teen-aged GIRLS [= the ages many/most single moms often have their first child before even graduating from hi-school - and if they fail to graduate from hi-school obviously they won't go on to college]! So I had to point out that the actual data shows that as the US has had increasing % of college grads, the US divorce rate has also INCREASED! So are we supposed conclude that college degrees = more divorce [No.]?!?
This is the kind of subtle faulty reasoning in the article that made me go there. But when this NY-Times article basically concluded that if single moms were married, that would [magically] entirely negate the negative economic impacts of the neo-liberal / disaster-capitalist / cut-throat austerity agenda- IMO They really showed their hand!
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THE RICH ARE ON A CAPITAL STRIKE
Cynical Negro - 07/22/2012 - 11:28
The ruling class is trying to get the most money and power without the use of the under-class worker. In the land of derivatives and new technology, the serfs are only good for slave labor and/or part time work.
If you're a person who can't find a good paying job, you should be fighting for what Mittens "old white money" Romney would call: "free shit!"
Free homes, free money, free debt relief, free healthcare, free education, free day care, free food, free clothes etc. If you can't survive, you have to rob people who have stuff.
Here's where the police state apparatus comes in: The ruling class would rather leave you for dead (or kill you) before they get taxed ----- or face the guillotine!
These people are obsessed with ethnic cleansing:
Designer Babies: Genetically modified babies for the rich:
Abortions as a crime fighting tool: "Freakonomics" The Movie
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"PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY" IS
cripes - 07/18/2012 - 15:13
"Personal Responsibility" is neo-con code for social irresponsibility, poverty wages, social and economic exclusion, rampant incarceration, schools to prisons, criminalization of homelessness and economic violence.
BTW, low income is a causative factor in single motherhood, divorce, high infant mortality, reduced life expectancy, and generally a hard, short life. So if the NYT is so concerned about the plight of single mothers, they can report on Theresa Funiciello's CareGiver Credit Campaign (http://www.caregivercredit.org/) to provide real financial support for mothers and caregivers of children and adults. Like civilized nations do.
Example: in Denmark the minimum wage is $16.65. A part time worker at Mcdonalds earns about $17-18 per hour, has guaranteed health care, paid parental leave, and 30 days paid vacation each year. Housing and education is available for all and high quality. Somehow, McDonalds can make a profit and pay workers a living wage.
The US has been turned into a doghouse of profiteering, fraud, authoritarianism and exploitation.
The New York Times is a despicable rag, a mouthpiace for government misinformation and Cato Institute class warfare. I read it daily since I was in second grade, but after the Judith Ross WMD fraud, I never read it again. No one should.
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THE BLACK COUNTER-INSURGENCY PROGRAM
Cynical Negro - 07/22/2012 - 11:31
Divide & Rule: 1) Turn the children against the adults 2) Turn the women against men 3) Turn the rich against the poor 4) Turn this region against that region 5) Pit that group against that group etc. etc.
All forms of warfare was waged against black people: 1) Economic warfare 2) psychological warfare 3) Chemical/biological warfare 4) Judicial warfare 5) direct police state Terrorism
WE NEED A FULL INVESTIGATION INTO COINTELPRO, "Operation Frühmenschen" ("Operation Primitive Man") and other similar programs like these.
Obama Revives Frühmenschen
by Jeffrey Steinberg
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NOT TO JUSTIFY NY-TIMES 'SUBTLE' SHOT AT POOR WOMEN [& MEN] BUT:
Nixakliel - 07/21/2012 - 17:12
The Fact is That- Single mother-hood & teen-age pregnancy are big issues in the Black community w any-where from 65% - 75% of Black urban households being father-less [I'm less concerned about legal status than about a functioning positive presence]. This break-down in the Black family can't be trivialized- Yet it must be seen in its TRUEhistorical context, which the psuedo 'Liberal' NY-Times won't touch- Which is US society's 4 centuries old on-going racist assault on the Black family!
First they chained our fore-mother & fathers to the filthy bottoms of slave-ships. Then they sold them on auction blocks like cattle. And of course Ole 'Massa' often had his way w slave women & girls- even if they were 'married' [a status that was not legally recognized for slaves]- ala Thomas Jefferson & his slave girl Sally Hemmings. Then they breeded slave women & girls w 'stud-bucks' to get more slaves w out having to buy them. And in places like New Orleans, they even specially breeded slave women & girls to be 'escorts' to sexual-service southern white aristocracts. And often ole massa ripped slave families apart- for monetary reasons [It ain't personal it's just business], or as punishment for some alleged infraction, or just on a whim.
Yet despite all of that tramatic history, our parents & grand-parents had a real sense of & inclination toward {extended}family in the post-slavery south. But that began to deteriorate when we left for big-cities up north in search of the 'American Dream' &/or under threat of white-terrorism ala the KKK. - Case in point: For the block where I grew up on Chicago's south-side [in a Black neigborhood], I would estimate that for my peers, at-least 75% - 85% had their fathers present at home, most of whom were responsible hard-working men. But in just 2 generations we've gone from a state in urban America- where 65%, 75%, 85% of working-class Black households w children had their fathers at home, to now 65% - 75% of Black households w children are effectively fatherless. Just how the hell did that happen??? Was it in our genes??? If so then, why when I was growing up, did likely 80% of my peers have their fathers at home??? Or was it because they started dismantling the urban industrial sector in the mid 1970s - 1980s, because of urban neglect, because they unleashed the so-called 'War on Drugs' & 'War on Crime' [IE: opened a new-front on their on-going war on Black & Brown people] which feeds their 'Prison Industrial Complex' / 'New Jim Crow' system??? And was it because they started to openly commercialize sex to sell their commodities, in ever more blatantly rauchy fashion & even developed a pop-cultural so-called 'sexual-revolution' to justify it???
Ultimately many/most things in life come down to personal responsibility & facing the consequences of poor choices, BUT we've got to take a serious analytical look at the environment we been subjected to & conditions that have been imposed on us. That way we can understand that many bad so-called choices we've been making, have effectively been 'programmed' into us without us being consciously aware of it. And we can never let lame-stream talking-heads get away w an overly simplistic [dishonest] {non}analytical 'Blame the Victim' narrative. Even if most Black single moms got married tomorrow, ignoring the fact there is a definite shortage of eligible Black men these days [unless the NY-Times is hinting what some other books, featured stories & movies have said directly- that college educated / 'successful' Black women should marry white men - BUT IMO most white men would be quite reluctant to marry even college educated Black single moms], economically the Black family would likely still be in distress- because the whole damn economy is in distress- DUHH!!! Plus the divorce rate for whites is now +30% for marriages of 7yrs & up to 40% - 50% for marriages of 10yrs. And traditionally even when the over-all econ was OK for most whites, it was NOT OK for many Blacks!
What this NY-Times does NOT hint at but states directly, is that folks w college degrees [primarily white] do better both economically & even socially- IE: are more inclinded to get & stay married. That may have been so up to perhaps the mid 1990s - yr 2000. But w the sky-hi cost of education- trapping many/most students in mountains of debt, w little guarantee of finding decent paying jobs- does it even make financial sense to blindly pursue a college education these days??! And w failing inner city public schools [which NCLB / RTTT type DeForm hyped by mainly white college educated elites will make worse]- leading to the school to prison pipeline for too many Black & Brown youth. And the back-lash against affirmative action progs has made / will make college less accessible to Black & Brown students. Thus this simplistic 'Get a college degree for success'- cliche'- being hyped by this NY-Times article may in effective be selling a 'pipe{WET}dream'!
And the over-all trend for since the past 50 to 100yrs has been an increase in divorces as the number of US college grads increased- IE: the divorce rate in 2007 before the on-set of the Great Recession was 2.3Xs more than in 1930 during the depth of the Great Depression!Yet there were 10Xs more college Grads in 2007 than in 1930 [= the number of grads per US citizens is 4.3Xs greater in 2007 than in 1930]. In 1981 [FYI: during Reagan era the divorce rate reached its peak] the US divorce rate was 2.65Xs greater in 1981 than in 1941 [= the WWII era]. Yet there 5Xs more college grads in 1985 than 1941 or for per % US population an increase college grad rate of 3Xs. Thus the real deal is that divorce in the US has substantially [if not dramatically]INCREASED as college graduation has also increased!
Furthermore let's not forget that it was college educated {mainly white} folk that crashed the economy primarily thru Wall St Bankster type fraud ['This {global economic} crisis was NOT caused by Black, Indigenous nor poor people... But rather by the irrational {IE: crooked} behavior of some white people with blue eyes {& advanced college degrees}, who before the crisis appeared to know everything about economics and now demonstrate that they know nothing about economics...' - Ex-Brazilian Pres Luiz Lula daSilva at a March 2009 press conference w ex-UK PM Gordon Brown- where he accused the rich of forcing the poor into greater hardship.{see: www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/26/lula-attacks-white-bankers-crash/ & http://blackagendareport.com/content/lula-puts-blue-eyed-white-bankers-their-place ], & also hyped that NAFTA / GATT type trade agreements would be good for both US, Mexican & Haitian workers [March 2010: In the immediate wake of the Haitian earth-quake, ex-US Pres Bill{'I feel Your Pain' - NOT!}Clinton admits that NAFTA / GATT type neo-Liberal free-market trade agreements exacerbated hunger in Haiti and elsewhere- & apologized for championing policies that destroyed Haiti's rice production...]; -&- also lied to the World about Saddam's non-existent WMDs- which lame-stream media press-titute out-lets [IE: The NY-Times] played a major role in hyping!
Thus having a college degree(s) neither necessarily guarantees more family stability nor more virtuous ethics. And now it's not even a guaranteed path to a stable decent paying job!
IMO This NY-Times article subtly uses a featured white single mom [Ms Schairer] as a surogate- avoiding a blatant in your face assault on Black single mothers. But mid-way thru the article lo & behold it's revealed that the father of Ms Schairer's 3 kids is a Black guy whom she met [ironically] in college. This NY-Times article makes a point that they never got married & of Ms Schairer's description of him as irresponsible. She also admits to subsequently allowing another boy-friend to shack-up w her & the kids for 6 months [his ethnicity is not revealed- which makes me suspect he was white]. IMO: The most telling point made in this article is that in 1990 the rate of out-of-wedlock births for white women w some college education was 10% but now its 30% [I bet for this trend the main culprits are white guys NOT Black & Brown guys- 'What comes around eventually goes around.' - 'Eventually You'll reap what you sow.']. {NOTE: Firstremember that MSNM outlets IE: The NY-Times, are often propaganda outlets masquerading as news outlets. What are the odds of a white girl from a small-town in Iowa hooking up in college w a Black guy she never knew before- having 3 kids by him & then he cuts-out on her & them? How many Black men are even in college these days compared to either white women & men or even Black women {there's at-least 2 Black women to every Black man in college}? So IMO: its no accident that this NY-Times article featured a white woman who has 3 bi-racial kids by an absent Black dad! Thus one of this article's hidden messages is: In general having relationships w Black men, even college educated ones, is a risky choice for college educated women- be they white or even Black!}
This article emphasizes this point: That the main reason Ms Schairer's boss [Mrs Faulkner- FYI: she & her husband are white] is doing so much better than she is - is because Mrs Faulkner is married [From the article: The main difference between them is not the 'impact of globalization on wages but a guy name Kevin Faulkner']. IMO this statement is likely true at the personal level [I'm all for the sisters marrying loving & responsible brothers], BUT- It is entirely TOO dismissive of the real negative impacts that WTO, NAFTA, GATT styled trade agreements have had on the working-class / working-poor both in the US & even worse abroad! And marriage is NO 'Magic Bullet Theory' that will completely negate that fact [this also increasingly becoming true for college degrees as well]!
PS: The real way to fairly & equitably end welfare as we know it- in addition to encouraging a social & economic environment conducive to keeping families intact- Is a Full Employment policy at a fair & living wage for all able-bodies [excluding pregnant women & mothers of small children], w universal access to relevent education [up-thru at-least the AA / BA / BS degree level] & adequate health-care for all. - Which almost certainly the NY-Times will NOT advocate - Thus the NY-Times is effectively justifying hard-core cold-blooded Neoliberal econ policies & austerity cuts in the so-called social 'safety-net' in hard economic times- by focusing on non-college degreed single mothers as being entirely responsible for their own economic plight- as a clever diversionary tactic.
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You've certainly proved you DON'T know history. Any half way decent library will have books discussing the Muslim Arab slave trade that went on for at least 1000 years. There was even a Black slave revolt in Iraq around 800AD. There are descendants of Black enslaved by Arabs in much of the Middle East, and even India. If Islam came to end slavery, then it FAILED disastrously in its mission. My colleagues include AFRICAN historians who are well aware of Arab slave trading. I've met and spoken to Africans who talk no only about Arab slavetrading but anti0-Black Arab racism. even Frantz Fanon mentions anti-Black Arab racism in both THE WRETCHED OF THE EARTH & BLACK SKINS, WHITE MASKS. In fact, the enslavement of Blacks and others by Muslim Arabs never completely ended. Formre Black slaves in Sudean have testified to what they've suffered. YOur ignorance of this is a matter of dishonesty, stpidity or both. One more thing, Assdurratin: Islam began in ARABIA, not Africa. A map will not show Mecca anywhere in continental Africa. As you don't even know basic things about African or Islamic history, from now on you will address me as Sir, Dr. even MASTER. The only you know is yourself and the one who bore you.
-Savant
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Although, you know, if Obama were white and his father was, say Belgian, and his mother a white Yank... I'll bet the teapartiers would be calling him “that Belgian Muslim communist terrorist”.
Not that I'm disputing your assertion that racism is in play against Obama... But the GOP will throw that kind of dirt on anyone. Remember how they treated Hillary?
They're not only racist---they're sexist, elitist, fascist---multi-faceted reprobates.
Well these reactionaries hate their ancestral homelands in Europe. If Obama was a liberal white guy of recent Belgian descent, he'd be denounced at least a as effete European snob, and a Communist.
Imagine if MIchelle Obama had run and somenow won--black, female & literate. The Right would have a fit of cosmic proportions.
-Savant
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Yeah America needs a; Mormon, polygamist, ponzi scheming, offshore accounts having, vulture capitalist as president. That will solve all of this nation's problems.
very well said and the vultures are even worse with Congress tea-partiers.
ponzi scheming Mormon Mitt bearing also the anti-Black culture of his cult.
a whiteboi
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Black Muslims love to ignore or down play the slave trade of the Arabs. It gives them the ability to accuse black Christians of being slaves of the wm and of being anti black while pretending Arabs are the friends of blacks
-emperorjohn
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The problem with most Americans is that they are greedy. Most of you focus on material wealth and only 3% of the population has reached and maintain that status. The rich do not give a d____ about you. Now, if Romney was the kind of guy that believed in wealth for the NATION and not just what he can pocket and get away with sure... he'd have my vote, but he doesn't. Hell, he won't even share his knowledge with the public because how he got there in his words, is none of your business. Hey, there is a book entitled "The Richest Man in Babylon" you'd do yourself a favor by reading it.
I pick the man who knows how to get rich as the best choice to get the economy back on track. And that is what most voters are doing. Polls consistently show Romney beating Obama by a small margin. That margin is likely to get larger before it gets smaller.
Everyone fairs well when knowledge and resources are shared. Most people are poor because that's the way the wealthiest americans want it. You keep on thinking that way. lOL
And the polls you are referring to are so far off reality, but you will come to realize one day that Mind control is a "Mother!" It works because critical mass are not of one mind but more like sheep being herded by a shrewd herder who's only mission is to keep those sheep plump and fat for the market place. That spells profit for HIM and certain DEATH for the sheep.
Yes, it is true that America is set up like a "corporation" and NOT a country. A corporation has one goal. PROFIT! Should a chain gang worker becomes unable to tote that bar and lift that bail, he's rendered useless. That's why we have opposition to what those that HAVE termed OBAMACARE! Keep on with the blinders on. Keep on keeping on. See, "Collective" prosperity can only happen when the "critical mass" can see the forest in-spite of the trees.
In a "perfect world" we will all live a good life. But as long as we have those who have more thinking and believing that THEY are the chosen ones and who will say with conviction that "I AM NOT MY BROTHER'S KEEPER", you will always deal with the Holmes of the world. Guys like that are all around us. Ticking time bombs. And one day, they will start shooting the sons _____________ that sit in Ivory towers looking down on the masses. Those who say to themselves, "I've got mine and that's ALL that's important." It really doesn't take much light to see what's going on.
-A Person
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Note by Me: I don't agree with calling someone disagreeing with me a fool or boy, but the rest of the words are things that I agree with.
By Timothy
You fool! Obama inherited an economic meltdown caused not only by Dubya's incompetence (which was immense) but decades of Reaganomics malfeasance perpetrated by the corporate-puppet connedservatives, or, as they're called in French, the “petitconservatives” LOL... oh man I crack myself up...Obama presidency: over 8% unemployment rate since he has been in office
over 15 trillion dollars in debt
supports illegal aliens getting jobs over American citizens
Mitt Romney for president 2012!!
Anyway, the corporate corruption runs deep in both parties, but Mitt the Corporate Hairpiece is hardly a solution! He is WORSE than Obama by far! Look at his history! What sort of traitor would you have to be to want that misanthrope running the country and screwing us even deeper in the hole!!!
And I suppose you're also happy with insurance corporations in charge of our medical care.
And of course you're content that Halliburton got rich while putting our grandchildren into debt to China for a war based on lies... no problem, eh?
And of course if all those illegal immigrants weren't here, you'd be out applying for those lettuce-picking, dishwashing and grasscutting jobs they took from you, right?
Just how many hours per day do you watch Faux News, boy!?
-Barros Serrano
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How lame! LOL... THAT is a Constitutional violation!!! That's all you've got, punk? LOL!!!Obama does not believe in the U.S. Constitution which is evident by him wanting to force individuals/corporations to purchase health insurance, making a rule to not deport illegal immigrants, and being hostile to the 2nd amendment. He is a socialist who wants to tax the middle class out of existence and believes in heavy government regulation and interference. And yes, I would rather have insurance corporations in charge of our medical care than the government. I do not want the government dictating to the American people what type of health care we receive. Mitt Romney may not be great but I think he is better than Obama by far.
He has done nothing against the 2nd amendment. That is the perennial cry of the braindead dittohead...“The Democrats are gonna take our guns!” BS. Ain't happened and ain't gonna happen.
Illegal immigrants? That isn't a Constitutional matter. The President could decide to deport them all or give them Amnesty... either way is legal. The first option of course is immoral, but you connedservatives don't care about that, of course.
The govt does not “dictate” what healthcare you get. EVERY other developed country has universal healthcare, and it works fine. I lived in Europe and saw it firsthand. The USA is a primitive backwater because of this... the inability to overcome the political influence of corporations who control our Congress and keep us in this quasi-feudal mire.
Mitt Romney is a corporate tool who cares nothing for the people! In other words... he's a Republican!
Lose the petitconservative brainwashing and return to being a real American, boy! Lose the corporate adulation, the acquiescence to quasi-fascism. Un-clone and un-drone yourself!
TURN OFF FAUX NEWS, FOOL!!!
-Barros Serrano
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Even that very eloquent DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, while list grievances against the King, manages to refer to Native Americans as "merciless Indian savages." Did Jefferson and other founding fathers consider "merciless Indian savages" to be among those "men" who are "created equal"? Where Blacks among those men created equal?
-Savant
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They go IN on his behind. Blues fans are a rabid bunch with their stanning for the old Blues greats. I cannot stand his music and they even made him admit he used the OG aka Robert Johnson's riff repeatedly.
Muddy Waters s___ on this man. Buddy Guy even spoke on it and the video is on YouTube. Eric Clapton isn't fit to wipe their shoes.
Kid Rock is part of what I call the Black for profit brigade. I include Mark Wahlberg in this group as well. They'll cope a Black style,music etc for money and once they've made enough,their real self comes out.
-County4Life
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TKJQHM8BEK69PJD5G/p18
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No truer words have been spoken.
Thank you. Not to mention that he drank from the fountain of Muddy Waters' genius. You Tube is littered with videos of him playing alongside blues legends such as B.B King - as though to prove his 'authenthicity' where the blues are concerned. May the good Lord bless all who have called this ingrateful child out. I don't know if the following have been mentioned already: The Rolling Stones have been mentioned with the song 'Brown Sugar', I mean its original version as it has since been sanitized. Oh and Kid Rock who is said to possess an abiding affection for the confederate flag and a fondness for the n word. |
They go IN on his behind. Blues fans are a rabid bunch with their stanning for the old Blues greats. I cannot stand his music and they even made him admit he used the OG aka Robert Johnson's riff repeatedly.
Muddy Waters s___ on this man. Buddy Guy even spoke on it and the video is on YouTube. Eric Clapton isn't fit to wipe their shoes.
Kid Rock is part of what I call the Black for profit brigade. I include Mark Wahlberg in this group as well. They'll cope a Black style,music etc for money and once they've made enough,their real self comes out.
-County4Life
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http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TKJQHM8BEK69PJD5G/p18
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