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John Henry1 day ago
Black folks are being too liberal with airing our dirty laundry. Yes, there are some plantation living black folks, just like there is some Uncle Toms like West. But it should not be a talking point on a white biased news show. It just opens the door for them to publicly talk all of this racist bull and not call it racist. Then why is "what has president Obama done for the black community" even a segment on this Right Wing Financed white station. When have they ever cared what any one has done for the black community? Why are they spending money to stress this point? What are they gaining from this? Why did they choose A Black Congressman to discuss this?
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Shoutout131 day ago
"Fixed News" has never been real.
It's part of the empire's pandering to the right just
like the same group's airing of "The Simpsons, American Dad, and American Idol"
is intended to entertain and distract the left. Everyone goes at each other's throat
encouraged by a race baiting foreign billionaire and Murdoch charges a premium for airtime of event sponsors/commercial airtime.
It's part of the empire's pandering to the right just
like the same group's airing of "The Simpsons, American Dad, and American Idol"
is intended to entertain and distract the left. Everyone goes at each other's throat
encouraged by a race baiting foreign billionaire and Murdoch charges a premium for airtime of event sponsors/commercial airtime.
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A_1 day ago
Let me say this..Rangel has his issues but he is a SUPERIOR debater. Laura Ingrahm plays the same games that a lot of you on this forum like to do...Make one point or ask one question, then when that's answered, you're off in left field somewhere trying to form a strawman. The funny thing is, while many of you will sit here an chastise her for this lunacy (and rightfully so) you will at the same time PRAISE people like Ed Shultz and Rachel Maddow who do the SAME EXACT THING. Anyone who thinks they are being informed watching these rapid fire type formats used by FOX, CNN and MSNBC is really out of touch. This is why whenever someone wants to start talking about how they heard this or that on one of these cable news shows I just think to myself, this is not serious debate. The only exception to this is Dylan Ratigan in my view. He is a real economist not just playing one on TV and brings insightful information to his show daily.
With respect to Allan West. His comments are 100% with regards to the Democrats being a PLANTATION and since Mr. RAngel has been one of those overseers for almost 40 years, it's only natural he would take issue with the comment. Liberalism nor Conservatism will save us right now, what we need is BLACK NATIONALISM. And for all you fools who believe BN is nothing more than RBG flags and black berets, understand that what we are talking about community development by way of controlling the economy and education of the community. Once you do that, the rest fits in place. Don't believe me? take a look at how the Jews, Chinese, Arabs, Italians, Russians, Hispanics operate their neighborhoods to see what I'm talking about!
With respect to Allan West. His comments are 100% with regards to the Democrats being a PLANTATION and since Mr. RAngel has been one of those overseers for almost 40 years, it's only natural he would take issue with the comment. Liberalism nor Conservatism will save us right now, what we need is BLACK NATIONALISM. And for all you fools who believe BN is nothing more than RBG flags and black berets, understand that what we are talking about community development by way of controlling the economy and education of the community. Once you do that, the rest fits in place. Don't believe me? take a look at how the Jews, Chinese, Arabs, Italians, Russians, Hispanics operate their neighborhoods to see what I'm talking about!
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"If the majority of whites were opposed to racism/white supremacy, it would NOT be the most powerful social, economic, and political system on the planet..."
AXIOM #1: YOU CANNOT OPPOSE SOMETHING AND KNOWINGLY BENEFIT FROM IT AT THE SAME TIME...
it's a beautiful thing to see Black folks that are conscious and knowledgeable about what is going on around us..phenomenal is a better word...
and when i witness the energy of people like Bakk and Cramm, i wonder how can we transfer this to the masses of Black people who have given up, Blacks who have no hope...and those educated negros who not only are comfortable and complacent living in servitude, but also promote the agenda...
what will it take to get folks to understand that when you instill independence in a people...you create a better Man/Woman...
when you create a better person, you create a better family, which creates a better community, which creates a better quality of life...which in turn creates a nation of forward progressive thinking Black people...
AXIOM #1: YOU CANNOT OPPOSE SOMETHING AND KNOWINGLY BENEFIT FROM IT AT THE SAME TIME...
it's a beautiful thing to see Black folks that are conscious and knowledgeable about what is going on around us..phenomenal is a better word...
and when i witness the energy of people like Bakk and Cramm, i wonder how can we transfer this to the masses of Black people who have given up, Blacks who have no hope...and those educated negros who not only are comfortable and complacent living in servitude, but also promote the agenda...
what will it take to get folks to understand that when you instill independence in a people...you create a better Man/Woman...
when you create a better person, you create a better family, which creates a better community, which creates a better quality of life...which in turn creates a nation of forward progressive thinking Black people...
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Iwillbfree1 day agoin reply to Shoutout13
a whiteboi
Iwillbfree1 day agoin reply to Shoutout13
Excellent info! I already knew NEWSFUN had agents. You really can tell just by the way they post, they are klanners and agents. A few have gone and came back under other names, then try to PLAY the good-white-guy-role. They say things to make weak negroids believe they are 'NICE GUYS,' but they are agents. This is why I post info that is relevant to my people [who are sometimes my worst enemies], but I can weed out, who is real and who his fake! You can tell the racist caucasoids and negroids, for that matter...just buy the pictures they post ,of a dumb looking negroid male or fe-male, then try to talk ghetto. I OBSERVE!
We must OVERstand as a people, how these serpents use these negroids to do their dirty work. Every Black leader that died, had a negroid male INDIRECTLLY killed them. Hoover, indirectly had Malcolm X killed, through a negroid. As you already know, he is out of jail. They used that negroid to do their DIRTY DEEDS and paid him. How is he surviving with a felony record? HUH? The same with King, he was killed by the government, through a negroid male, you would be surprised, who it was. Marcus Garvey was attacked and ridiculed by his own kind, through a white boy. THESE ARE SLAVES! What I can't OVERstand; why do negroids DOWN their OWN kind when all they are trying to do is WAKE THEM UP? They cry to caucasoids, who don't give a damn about them, but strike us down loke bowling pins! It's that Jealousy, Envy and Hate!
HELL! Just look at these negroid agents on this site! I look at it, like this, while somebody's watching me, I'm watching them. This is why NEWSFUN removes some of my post because they don't want the TRUTH to be told, especially, if it's TRUTH for your MIND and REAL OURstory! They want to keep us entertained with sports, entertainment, dancing and singing, and racism,. They NEVER post on this site, how we should come together, as a people, it's ALWAYS division, amongst our so-called leaders. They are the very people, who are leading us to the death trap. We have been divided by false leaders for decades.
You had some people, who liked Malcolm X versus King, you have some people, who like Tavis and West, while hating Waters and the CBC. It's a circus...we must UNITE AS ONE! We have been SEPARATED TOO LONG. These negroids and caucasoids want to keep it that way because you can EASILY CONTROL a people, when they are divided, hungry and homeless. Does the Sudan ring a bell? These serpents want to blame an HBCU for taking land [NEWSFUN ARTICLE], and the article CLEARLY stated that London and the unuted snakes gets the biggest portion of the usurping of Afrikan land.
I am beginning to wonder if these serpents are keeping us in the 'light' about Odrama. Are they USING US to make him fall? Are they using these negroid leaders to keep us divided? Cain is a Steppin Fetchit negroid and a puppet for the klan party. Allen West, who continues to apologize to caucasoids, when he tells the TRUTH, now he claims to be the Harriet Tubman of the klan party. Can you FOLLOW these slave weak a____ negroids like them?
I am not an Odrama backer, but IF he looses this election coming up, these serpents are going to blame US! They want him to fail! When your OWN PARTY votes against you, what can this mul___o do? Y'all know he can't do shyt for us and ain't gonna do shyt for us, WE MUST DO THAT FOR OURSELVES. Where were these negroids during Raeganomics? Where was the uproar when Nixon fuked up? How come they didn't say shyt about Billy Boy Clinton, sending jobs overseas, during his administration, but these clowns called him the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT!
I will pass this info you posted! A SCARED MAN CAN'T WIN NO MONEY -IWBF
HOW LONG BLACK PEOPLE? I ALREADY TOLD Y'ALL I DON'T GIVE A D____ ABOUT THESE SERPENTS!
BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! Y'ALL SCARED?
I HOPE NEWSFUN DOESN'T ERASE THIS
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Some bigots use immigration as an excuse to cause more divisions among blacks and Hispanic people when white supremacists (and pro-eugenicists) fund many anti-immigration movements here in America. Conspiracy Archive.com have documented the pro-eugenics ties of some of these anti-immigration groups. We aren't afraid of the social demographics of America changing. We blacks are mostly concerned with building up our communities, growing up population growth, and believing real POWER for our people. It's easy to scapegoat Hispanics, but it's more realistic to not follow abhorent distractions. It's vitally essential for my people to focus all of our efforts in growing and developing our own black community, loving our own black people, and living the life of fighting for authentic justice.
Also, many Hispanic people have African blood. Some Hispanics (not all) are cousins to black people. I'm not hating on my cousin for anybody. If immigration needs to be resolved here in America, it should be a comprehensive, rational solution without fear mongering.
-By Timothy (Me)
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John Henry1 day agoin reply to SimplyComplex_87
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crammasters1 month ago
We must OVERstand as a people, how these serpents use these negroids to do their dirty work. Every Black leader that died, had a negroid male INDIRECTLLY killed them. Hoover, indirectly had Malcolm X killed, through a negroid. As you already know, he is out of jail. They used that negroid to do their DIRTY DEEDS and paid him. How is he surviving with a felony record? HUH? The same with King, he was killed by the government, through a negroid male, you would be surprised, who it was. Marcus Garvey was attacked and ridiculed by his own kind, through a white boy. THESE ARE SLAVES! What I can't OVERstand; why do negroids DOWN their OWN kind when all they are trying to do is WAKE THEM UP? They cry to caucasoids, who don't give a damn about them, but strike us down loke bowling pins! It's that Jealousy, Envy and Hate!
HELL! Just look at these negroid agents on this site! I look at it, like this, while somebody's watching me, I'm watching them. This is why NEWSFUN removes some of my post because they don't want the TRUTH to be told, especially, if it's TRUTH for your MIND and REAL OURstory! They want to keep us entertained with sports, entertainment, dancing and singing, and racism,. They NEVER post on this site, how we should come together, as a people, it's ALWAYS division, amongst our so-called leaders. They are the very people, who are leading us to the death trap. We have been divided by false leaders for decades.
You had some people, who liked Malcolm X versus King, you have some people, who like Tavis and West, while hating Waters and the CBC. It's a circus...we must UNITE AS ONE! We have been SEPARATED TOO LONG. These negroids and caucasoids want to keep it that way because you can EASILY CONTROL a people, when they are divided, hungry and homeless. Does the Sudan ring a bell? These serpents want to blame an HBCU for taking land [NEWSFUN ARTICLE], and the article CLEARLY stated that London and the unuted snakes gets the biggest portion of the usurping of Afrikan land.
I am beginning to wonder if these serpents are keeping us in the 'light' about Odrama. Are they USING US to make him fall? Are they using these negroid leaders to keep us divided? Cain is a Steppin Fetchit negroid and a puppet for the klan party. Allen West, who continues to apologize to caucasoids, when he tells the TRUTH, now he claims to be the Harriet Tubman of the klan party. Can you FOLLOW these slave weak a____ negroids like them?
I am not an Odrama backer, but IF he looses this election coming up, these serpents are going to blame US! They want him to fail! When your OWN PARTY votes against you, what can this mul___o do? Y'all know he can't do shyt for us and ain't gonna do shyt for us, WE MUST DO THAT FOR OURSELVES. Where were these negroids during Raeganomics? Where was the uproar when Nixon fuked up? How come they didn't say shyt about Billy Boy Clinton, sending jobs overseas, during his administration, but these clowns called him the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT!
I will pass this info you posted! A SCARED MAN CAN'T WIN NO MONEY -IWBF
HOW LONG BLACK PEOPLE? I ALREADY TOLD Y'ALL I DON'T GIVE A D____ ABOUT THESE SERPENTS!
BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! Y'ALL SCARED?
I HOPE NEWSFUN DOESN'T ERASE THIS
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No real black is afraid of Hispanic people. We just don't have an extremely prejudice attitude about Hispanic like some other people have. We know the type of people with this extreme hatred of Hispanics and immigration in general (not just illegal immgiration). I don't agree with illegal immigration morally, but immigration is a complex issue. Most black people don't want some knee jerk reaction to the immigration debate as an excuse to scapegoat an ethnicity that never mistreated us in the level of white supremacists. That's fundamentally the principle.jsteeten wrote:In this forum alone, there's a remarkable number of threads by blacks nervously discussing the "scourge" of illegal and legal immigration by Mexicans and other Hispanics.
My general experience is that Hispanic immigrants are very hard-working, law-abiding and place great importance on the traditional family.
Why would they present a threat to blacks? Why are so many AAs afraid of the presence of Hispanic immigrants in the US?
Some bigots use immigration as an excuse to cause more divisions among blacks and Hispanic people when white supremacists (and pro-eugenicists) fund many anti-immigration movements here in America. Conspiracy Archive.com have documented the pro-eugenics ties of some of these anti-immigration groups. We aren't afraid of the social demographics of America changing. We blacks are mostly concerned with building up our communities, growing up population growth, and believing real POWER for our people. It's easy to scapegoat Hispanics, but it's more realistic to not follow abhorent distractions. It's vitally essential for my people to focus all of our efforts in growing and developing our own black community, loving our own black people, and living the life of fighting for authentic justice.
Also, many Hispanic people have African blood. Some Hispanics (not all) are cousins to black people. I'm not hating on my cousin for anybody. If immigration needs to be resolved here in America, it should be a comprehensive, rational solution without fear mongering.
-By Timothy (Me)
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John Henry1 day agoin reply to SimplyComplex_87
They known very well what is offensive. They just dont care. This add is highly offensive. This mess will continue because Black People are too busy trying to make believe racism doesnt exist any more. They will not stand together and protest this bull. No Black Person ever should buy Nivea products, but many will say...."they weren't talking about me" or the will justify the add cus they are too busy trying to assimilate into white culture and reject what is naturally black/ african.
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crammasters1 month ago
those who think racism is "going away" or believe all we have to do is strive for "tolerance" and "understanding" do NOT KNOW THE HISTORY of white supremacy and white domination/colonization/imperialism here and abroad
Not do they understand the system that dominates the LIVES of every non-white person on the planet.
White supremacy is a GLOBAL SYSTEM that is thousands of years old --
Until its non-white victims GET OUT OF DENIAL and stop cooperating with it (by treating whites as if they superior) it will continue for another THOUSAND YEARS
check out racismdaily_com
Neely Fuller, Jr (on youtube)
Dr. Frances Cress Welsing (on youtube)
and you'll learn that racism IS white supremacy -- and that it is a GLOBAL system NOT the acts of a few "dumb white people"
Not do they understand the system that dominates the LIVES of every non-white person on the planet.
White supremacy is a GLOBAL SYSTEM that is thousands of years old --
Until its non-white victims GET OUT OF DENIAL and stop cooperating with it (by treating whites as if they superior) it will continue for another THOUSAND YEARS
check out racismdaily_com
Neely Fuller, Jr (on youtube)
Dr. Frances Cress Welsing (on youtube)
and you'll learn that racism IS white supremacy -- and that it is a GLOBAL system NOT the acts of a few "dumb white people"
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Shoutout131 day agoin reply to cocoa09
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Note by Me: Brueh is mostly right on this even though I don't agree with him on every issue. I do believe that a black man should have kids in their 20s though if he is ready for that responsibility. Also, I disagree with Kastha with a BM dominating a BW in a dictator-like fashion since a black woman has the right to have employment and live her life in a real, independent fashion.
By Timothy
This is why it is so important for Black fathers to GROOM their sons, not just raise them. Too many Black fathers either don't raise their sons or they half ass it, allowing Whites to teach their sons history when Black fathers should be doing it themselves! Black men as a group seem to think that they are doing a good job by just being there with their children.......... this couldn't be further from the truth. Black men have to do a lot more than just be there, we need to take an active role in raising and grooming our sons and preparing them for the long struggle that is called LIFE. Black fathers must be teachers, period, and the primary things that should be taught are a mastery of finance AND how to deal with Whites and people in general. The trouble is, no Black father can teach his son these things if he himself is ignorant of them. This is why I encourage Black men from backgrounds like mine to wait until they are in their mid 30s to have kids. The twenties/early thirties should be spent building wealth/financial independence so that when the children are born the father can focus on raising them rather than working at some job. Plus, once the Black man masters finance he can use his wealth to dominate and control the Black woman, blocking her from seeking employment outside the home, ensuring her dependence on him, and ensuring the longevity of the marriage!
-Kastha Brueh
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BW HAVE BEEN VERY FAITHFUL TO BM...YES SOME BW HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH WHITE MEN....BUT THIS WAS A RARE THING...HELL IT'S ONLY GROWING NOW....BW OF THE PAST DIDN'T EVEN COME INTO CLOSE QUARTERS WITH WM BEFORE A CERTAIN TIME AND IF THEY DID....THEY SURE AS HELL DIDN'T DATE THEM...NOW BEWING SEXUALLY HARASSED AND GIVING IN TO WM DESIRES IS NOT THE SAME AS WILLINGLY DATING WM...WHO IN THE PAST WOULD NEVER HAVE DATED BW....(BUT WM HAVE ALWAYS WANTED BW TO GIVE IN TO THEM)....
SO WHEN AND WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GROW UP...SOMEWHERE THAT ONLY HAD LIKE ONE HALF A PERCENT OF BLACKS....IF THAT WAS THE CASE...THEN WHO THE HELL ELSE WOULD THESE GIRLS DATE...ESPECIALLY IF THEY OUTNUMBER BM THERE.
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I believe in equality as it’s fundamentally true. Equality doesn’t mean everyone is identical. A man is not identical to a woman since on average a man is physically bigger and stronger than a female is. Also, males and females have different genetics, phenotypes, hormonal changes, organ differences, and other differences. We men created a whole list of inventions, but women have had their contributions in the world stage as well in numerous areas. Without a woman, we men wouldn’t be here since we owe a lot to women. We were born from women, so by that alone, women have a special place in my heart. Sometimes, women give men inspiration to carry on. Also, females can give a man an unique perspective on life in general. Equality does mean all humans have equal value. This means that my life is worth the same as a woman’s life or my value in the world is equal to a woman’s right (including the fact that men and women should be treated the same and afford basic human rights).
As for who will be on top, each relationship is different. Some relationships work when the man is the leader (other relations in that fashion has experienced divorces) and some relationships work when there is a partnership among males & females (some of these relationships have ended in divorce too). So, the best relationship for a male and female may be difference in numerous cases since not all relationships are monolithic or exactly the same in every circumstance. The 65 percent divorce rates in Black marriages exist because of many reasons like socioeconomic factors, the recession, etc. At the bare minimum, a man should be a man and have a voice in the relationship. We agree that a man shouldn’t be dominated by a woman or a man should never be a mime. I prefer to be a man in the relationship, while treating a woman with respect. You can that view this view as you wish.
Napoleon is an example that’s easily refutable. His Empire was temporary in its existence. He was defeated by a collaboration of European forces and his over extension of resources in the Russian winter snow. He tried to over extend his Empire into of course Haiti and failed. Tolerable, pro-democratic societies have existed for centuries that maintained strength, modernity, and progressive policies like in the America, parts of Africa, parts of Europe, parts of Asia, and other places. You can have high standards of living without an Empire. Even if Empires last for centuries, they still have had a chance of crumbling, because of internal disputes & rebel movements (in the Ottoman Empire, etc.). Also, Afghanistan is having wars over tribal matters and many Arabic nations are having revolutions because of the suppression of basic human freedoms. So, totalitarianism and misogyny against females don’t equate into the Utopian golden paradise. We don’t have to be like Napoleon to be men. We just need to be ourselves with confidence, learning self defense, and building real Power to protect our interests (and preserve black unity globally among brothers and sisters. We are all in this together).
-By Timothy
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WOMEN ARE WOMEN...ANY INTELLIGENT,MATURE AND SANE MAN WHO BRINGS SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO THE TABLE AND WHO IS SAVVY ENOUGH TO SHOP AROUND FOR THE BEST OF THE BEST....OF WOMEN OF ANY RACE...STARTING WITH HIS VERY OWN...KNOWS THIS....
ONE: YOU ARE NOT A BM....WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE...SO STOP COMING HERE AND SPEAKING OUT ABOUT ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT PERTAIN TO AA....AS IF YOU ARE!
TWO: I NEVER TYPED THAT MANY BW IN AMERICA ARE THIS OR THAT..I DID HOWEVER STATE THAT WITH "SOME" BW WE BM CAN'T WIN...HOWEVER....THIS VERY SAME STATEMENT COULD BE MADE BY ANY OTHER TYPE OF MAN...ABOUT THE WOMEN OF THEIR RACE....AND WM DO MAKE SUCH STATEMENTS..CONTRARY TO ALL OF THE BLINDLESS PRO WM NOISE COMING OUT OF IRBW MOUTHS AND MINDS.....WHICH WE ALL CAN CLEARLY SEE AND HEAR WITH OUR VERY OWN EYES AND EARS!
THREE: I AM MARRIED TO THE MOST FANTASTIC BW ON THE PLANET...SHE'S AMAZING....SHE IS IN FACT THE WOMAN OF MY DREAMS...AND TRUST ME...I'M VERY TEMPERAMENTAL AND PARTICULAR....I DON'T LIKE EVERYTHING....BUT I COULDN'T DO ANY BETTER THAN HER IN THREE MORE LIFETIMES....AND I'M NOT TRYING....MY EXPERIENCES WITH BW...WHILE NOT 100% PERFECT(HELL WHOSE IS?)HAVE FOR THE MAJORITY OF TIMES BEEN INCREDIBLE....SO NO NEED FOR ME TO BUY A BOAT OR PLANE TICKET JUST TO FIND A DATE WITH ANYTHING NONBLACK!
PERHAPS YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR....AND FIND OUT WHAT DON'T BW IN AMERICA SEE IN ME...I'M GOOD...BUT THANKS SPORT!
*YOU SOUND JUST LIKE ALL OF THE MINDLESS AND BRAINWASHED BW WHO CLAIM THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY THEN YOU HAVE TO DATE NONBM....PSSSHT...HOW RETARDED DO YOU SOUND?
-The Moor
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Some Hispanics (not all) have black blood. That’s the fact that you must accept. People that are related to me are my brothers and sisters worldwide since all of my ancestors originally came from Africa. If you’re black, that’s some House Negro, slave minded tripe to refuse to believe that all black people are related to each other (since these black people are our brothers and our sisters for real). That opinion that you hold is a disgrace. Yet, anyway, the truth will prevail, hatred will end, and obsession with Mexicans in a bigoted tone isn’t in my agenda. A rational, comprehensive solution to immigration is better than extremism.
By Timothy
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1. Black men should stop putting us down and thinking we should be made like the white woman, we are not built like white women so that will never happen.
2. Stop complaining that all black women are the same because we are not.
3. Show some appreciation to the sistas we love you guys but you guys need to start putting us on the pedestal too.
4. Stop showing your hate for women of color and stop uplifting another race of women who ate your women in general. That makes you look weak big time!
5. Stop acting like everything is black womens fault you make your own choices in life and who you want to sleep with.
5. We need just as much love as you need please understand that.
-beautiful black woman
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crammasters on 5/02/2010 1:38PM
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crammasters on 5/02/2010 1:51PM
Already posted to every major occurence and misuse of the term "flash mob" on the root.
Also posted to somewhat related articles in The Grio and Black Voices.
By the way, back in the day, before Black Voices was on AOL and then relocated again (in other words when it was its own website) there was already an infiltration attempt.
I'd be on Black Voices chat as Shoutout13 and suddenly someone with the same username would appear and make some ignorant anti-black comment which would look as if it came from me. Luckily (actually more unlukily), others had the same thing happen to them and realized that someone was in the chatroom trying to "pose".
Very telling how long this organized technological stalking/harassment is still going on
and targeting specific black men and women but making it look random or like strange or bad luck:
http://newsone.com/nation/theg...
or is it still just my imagination as friends used to say before I pointed out and they started noticing way too many specifically negative "co-incidences" happening around me with so called "random" people?
Thanks for the suggestions cocoa09
Also posted to somewhat related articles in The Grio and Black Voices.
By the way, back in the day, before Black Voices was on AOL and then relocated again (in other words when it was its own website) there was already an infiltration attempt.
I'd be on Black Voices chat as Shoutout13 and suddenly someone with the same username would appear and make some ignorant anti-black comment which would look as if it came from me. Luckily (actually more unlukily), others had the same thing happen to them and realized that someone was in the chatroom trying to "pose".
Very telling how long this organized technological stalking/harassment is still going on
and targeting specific black men and women but making it look random or like strange or bad luck:
http://newsone.com/nation/theg...
or is it still just my imagination as friends used to say before I pointed out and they started noticing way too many specifically negative "co-incidences" happening around me with so called "random" people?
Thanks for the suggestions cocoa09
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BakkByPopularDemand1 day agoin reply to Arlene
Well in MY case, no one else can signal to my daughters about anything. I SET THE STANDARD for womanhood in my home, not beyonce, rihanna or any other media B___....My girls get their que from ME.....Other mothers should do the same....
Once again i say, thats why i dont bother with the entertainment industry on this level...I watch my sports and thats about it.....
Once again i say, thats why i dont bother with the entertainment industry on this level...I watch my sports and thats about it.....
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Peoples4251 day agoin reply to missx
Actually your facts are off in numerous ways that would be actually laughable if it wasn't so sad. Blacks were not buying and selling each other from the beginning and as a matter of fact there was a system in place very similar to the indentured servitude in which one would serve off their debt as opposed to the chattel slavery that was instituted in the western hemisphere after the arrival in Africa only to manipulate tribes into handing over servants.
As per the disproportionate amount of rapes and murders... this is quite the opposite actually. Checking the statistics would show that the only difference is that Blacks are arrested and imprisoned on a higher rate than others for the same crimes including rape, murder and drug use. Further research would illustrate that the rates are actually on par and sometimes lower than others. I would advise you to make certain of your facts before you start spouting the same stuff that the news media repeats on regular intervals.
As per the disproportionate amount of rapes and murders... this is quite the opposite actually. Checking the statistics would show that the only difference is that Blacks are arrested and imprisoned on a higher rate than others for the same crimes including rape, murder and drug use. Further research would illustrate that the rates are actually on par and sometimes lower than others. I would advise you to make certain of your facts before you start spouting the same stuff that the news media repeats on regular intervals.
Excellent post!!!!!!!
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Iwillbfree11 hours agoin reply to 2Queens11434
"...the SEC has kept an entire generation of federal investigators in the dark about past inquiries into insider trading, fraud and market manipulation against companies like Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank and AIG."
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These three greedy, rich white organizations and companies are the very people, who are stealing from Afrika! Rememer, that white boy that raped that sister was a member of the IMF, who are also usurping the MOTHER LAND!
WE ARE DEALING WITH THE REAL GANGSTERS IN SUIT AND TIES; NOT THESE WANGSTERS, IN SAGGIN' BLUE JEANS AND T-SHIRTS!
These caucasoid gangsters are ripping us off our money, while these negroid wangsters are killing us off from living!
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These three greedy, rich white organizations and companies are the very people, who are stealing from Afrika! Rememer, that white boy that raped that sister was a member of the IMF, who are also usurping the MOTHER LAND!
WE ARE DEALING WITH THE REAL GANGSTERS IN SUIT AND TIES; NOT THESE WANGSTERS, IN SAGGIN' BLUE JEANS AND T-SHIRTS!
These caucasoid gangsters are ripping us off our money, while these negroid wangsters are killing us off from living!
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BakkByPopularDemand1 month agoin reply to Shakka
"what will it take to get folks to understand that when you instill independence in a people...you create a better Man/Woman..."
That's it right there.....very well said....
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Gerald Jones1 day ago
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Iwillbfree3 days ago
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soultry-soul3 days agoin reply to Zeru25
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ackerlinepsmith1 day agoin reply to Iwillbfree
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soultry-soul2 days agoin reply to Stanley__Steema
That's it right there.....very well said....
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Gerald Jones1 day ago
Laurel Ingram is apparently using her position as a host to dominate the conversation, and capitalize on an ignorant remark by an irrelevant republican representative.( R-West)
I applaud Rep. Rangel for keeping his composure during this attack on his intelligence, and character. The host was being a complete a___, and appeared to enjoy her role at that moment thinking that she had the upper hand . With no disrespect to Rep. Rangler, I would love to see her question Al Sharpton, or Roland Martin in the same manner that she had to Rep. Rangel.
I applaud Rep. Rangel for keeping his composure during this attack on his intelligence, and character. The host was being a complete a___, and appeared to enjoy her role at that moment thinking that she had the upper hand . With no disrespect to Rep. Rangler, I would love to see her question Al Sharpton, or Roland Martin in the same manner that she had to Rep. Rangel.
ANTHONY2442 days agoin reply to ANTHONY244
btw,
Michele Bachmann’s is still crazy as h____________--!!!!!
she talk about reducing federal spending yet her family have benefited personally from government aid,
her record and finances shows. A counseling clinic run by her husband has received nearly $30,000 from the state ofMinnesota in the last five years,
money that in part that came from the federal government.
A family farm in Wisconsin received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies..
Michele Bachmann’s is still crazy as h____________--!!!!!
she talk about reducing federal spending yet her family have benefited personally from government aid,
her record and finances shows. A counseling clinic run by her husband has received nearly $30,000 from the state ofMinnesota in the last five years,
money that in part that came from the federal government.
A family farm in Wisconsin received nearly $260,000 in federal farm subsidies..
Iwillbfree3 days ago
It's amazing how caucasoids still CONTROL negroids! This cartoon character is being paid by the klan party aka tea party to divide Black people.
Just think, this is how negroid slaves were turning on each other, to get some of the white boy's crumbs. You have Tavis, West, Farrakhan, Steve Harvey, now this clown, who are REALLY DIVIDING us!
NOW, I SEE WHAT THE ELDERS WENT THROUGH, WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO "FREE" OUR PEOPLE! HARRIET TUBMAN, HAD TO PUT A GUN TO A NEGROID SLAVE'S HEAD BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GO BACK TO HIS MASTER, WHEN THEY WERE ESCAPING FOR THEIR FREEDOM. She told him, "you will be free or die."
"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."
THESE NEW AGE SLAVES STILL AIN'T FREE!
Just think, this is how negroid slaves were turning on each other, to get some of the white boy's crumbs. You have Tavis, West, Farrakhan, Steve Harvey, now this clown, who are REALLY DIVIDING us!
NOW, I SEE WHAT THE ELDERS WENT THROUGH, WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO "FREE" OUR PEOPLE! HARRIET TUBMAN, HAD TO PUT A GUN TO A NEGROID SLAVE'S HEAD BECAUSE HE WANTED TO GO BACK TO HIS MASTER, WHEN THEY WERE ESCAPING FOR THEIR FREEDOM. She told him, "you will be free or die."
"I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."
THESE NEW AGE SLAVES STILL AIN'T FREE!
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Thor has it wrong. The rich are not the biggest employers, small businesses and governments are. In the 1950s the top tax rate was around 80% - imagine that. And we had a strong economy and no problems with the budget.
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soultry-soul3 days agoin reply to Zeru25
I will take that and run:)
However, you must understand that although no Sistah wants to hear a Brutha call himself sexy...there are so many outstanding, wonderful qualities in a man and the things he might display that makes us say, "D______ - That's Sexy".
Example...intelligence, well spoken, strong mind....these are just a few - I will be the first Sistah to say, "D____ - That's Sexy". Acknowledging that a Brutha is sexy - does not equate that she wants to get down. I think you're sexy:)
However, you must understand that although no Sistah wants to hear a Brutha call himself sexy...there are so many outstanding, wonderful qualities in a man and the things he might display that makes us say, "D______ - That's Sexy".
Example...intelligence, well spoken, strong mind....these are just a few - I will be the first Sistah to say, "D____ - That's Sexy". Acknowledging that a Brutha is sexy - does not equate that she wants to get down. I think you're sexy:)
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ackerlinepsmith1 day agoin reply to Iwillbfree
You are so right! Most haven't read the book to understand that Uncle Tom was actually the good dude and Sambo was the sell out.
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soultry-soul2 days agoin reply to Stanley__Steema
Here we go...yet another definition of the "B".
Look, I do not know any grown MEN/Brutha walking around here calling a WOMAN/Sistah the "B"word in reference to saying, "she's a bad one, a fox or a dime." Hell, I don't hear MEN call their women any of those words.
Look, I do not know any grown MEN/Brutha walking around here calling a WOMAN/Sistah the "B"word in reference to saying, "she's a bad one, a fox or a dime." Hell, I don't hear MEN call their women any of those words.
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Note by Me: Brueh is mostly right on this even though I don't agree with him on every issue. I do believe that a black man should have kids in their 20s though if he is ready for that responsibility. Also, I disagree with Kastha with a BM dominating a BW in a dictator-like fashion since a black woman has the right to have employment and live her life in a real, independent fashion.
By Timothy
This is why it is so important for Black fathers to GROOM their sons, not just raise them. Too many Black fathers either don't raise their sons or they half ass it, allowing Whites to teach their sons history when Black fathers should be doing it themselves! Black men as a group seem to think that they are doing a good job by just being there with their children.......... this couldn't be further from the truth. Black men have to do a lot more than just be there, we need to take an active role in raising and grooming our sons and preparing them for the long struggle that is called LIFE. Black fathers must be teachers, period, and the primary things that should be taught are a mastery of finance AND how to deal with Whites and people in general. The trouble is, no Black father can teach his son these things if he himself is ignorant of them. This is why I encourage Black men from backgrounds like mine to wait until they are in their mid 30s to have kids. The twenties/early thirties should be spent building wealth/financial independence so that when the children are born the father can focus on raising them rather than working at some job. Plus, once the Black man masters finance he can use his wealth to dominate and control the Black woman, blocking her from seeking employment outside the home, ensuring her dependence on him, and ensuring the longevity of the marriage!
-Kastha Brueh
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NO...THE VAST MAJORITY OF BW HAVE BEEN VERY LOYAL TO BM....THIS IS NO FAIRYTALE....IT IS TRUTH....BW ARE TO THIS VERY DAY...THE ONE GROUP OF WOMEN(BESIDES ARABS WHO HAVE NO CHOICE)THAT ARE THE LEAST LIKELY TO DATE OUT....THUS THE BIG ASS CAMPAIGN TO GET BW TO OPEN UP TO WM DESIRE TO DATE THEM....WHERE YOU INSECURE AND SCARED BM GET THIS IDEA THAT BW HAVE ALWAYS DATED NONBM IN HIGH NUMBERS IS BEYOND ME AND ALL LOGIC....trigga wrote:
Black women were never loyal to black men nor should they be. Everyone is loyal to themselves, period. When I was growing up I use to hear black girls talk about their attraction to non black men and date them. From what I've seen any non black man who express any interest in black women can easily get one. This is how it has been all my life. I think black women use this whole(we've been loyal to black men) line is nothing more than slogan.
BW HAVE BEEN VERY FAITHFUL TO BM...YES SOME BW HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH WHITE MEN....BUT THIS WAS A RARE THING...HELL IT'S ONLY GROWING NOW....BW OF THE PAST DIDN'T EVEN COME INTO CLOSE QUARTERS WITH WM BEFORE A CERTAIN TIME AND IF THEY DID....THEY SURE AS HELL DIDN'T DATE THEM...NOW BEWING SEXUALLY HARASSED AND GIVING IN TO WM DESIRES IS NOT THE SAME AS WILLINGLY DATING WM...WHO IN THE PAST WOULD NEVER HAVE DATED BW....(BUT WM HAVE ALWAYS WANTED BW TO GIVE IN TO THEM)....
SO WHEN AND WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GROW UP...SOMEWHERE THAT ONLY HAD LIKE ONE HALF A PERCENT OF BLACKS....IF THAT WAS THE CASE...THEN WHO THE HELL ELSE WOULD THESE GIRLS DATE...ESPECIALLY IF THEY OUTNUMBER BM THERE.
-The Moor
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Tim, in any relationship, somebody is going to have to be on top. So, will you be on top in your relationship with a female, or will she? Because if she is, I'm promising you your relationship will end, just like 65% of Black marriages.
Black men like you believe you can be "equal" to a woman. This is the dumbest mistake a man can make, this idea of equality. Women are not equal to us by any means. They are weaker physically and as a matter of fact mentally to, most of mankind's greatest inventions were made by men. So, as a man do you really believe in being on top in a relationship, or will you cede that to your women?
You used Napoleon as a reference; Napoleon was a great men. Hell, if Black men were like Bonaparte our ancestors wouldn't have been slaves working on plantations! This belief Black men like you have in being "equal" to Black women is one of the reasons why our women don't respect us. Iranian or Afghan or Arab women don't see themselves as being equal to their men. They see themselves as being what they are, which is subordinates.
I believe in equality as it’s fundamentally true. Equality doesn’t mean everyone is identical. A man is not identical to a woman since on average a man is physically bigger and stronger than a female is. Also, males and females have different genetics, phenotypes, hormonal changes, organ differences, and other differences. We men created a whole list of inventions, but women have had their contributions in the world stage as well in numerous areas. Without a woman, we men wouldn’t be here since we owe a lot to women. We were born from women, so by that alone, women have a special place in my heart. Sometimes, women give men inspiration to carry on. Also, females can give a man an unique perspective on life in general. Equality does mean all humans have equal value. This means that my life is worth the same as a woman’s life or my value in the world is equal to a woman’s right (including the fact that men and women should be treated the same and afford basic human rights).
As for who will be on top, each relationship is different. Some relationships work when the man is the leader (other relations in that fashion has experienced divorces) and some relationships work when there is a partnership among males & females (some of these relationships have ended in divorce too). So, the best relationship for a male and female may be difference in numerous cases since not all relationships are monolithic or exactly the same in every circumstance. The 65 percent divorce rates in Black marriages exist because of many reasons like socioeconomic factors, the recession, etc. At the bare minimum, a man should be a man and have a voice in the relationship. We agree that a man shouldn’t be dominated by a woman or a man should never be a mime. I prefer to be a man in the relationship, while treating a woman with respect. You can that view this view as you wish.
Napoleon is an example that’s easily refutable. His Empire was temporary in its existence. He was defeated by a collaboration of European forces and his over extension of resources in the Russian winter snow. He tried to over extend his Empire into of course Haiti and failed. Tolerable, pro-democratic societies have existed for centuries that maintained strength, modernity, and progressive policies like in the America, parts of Africa, parts of Europe, parts of Asia, and other places. You can have high standards of living without an Empire. Even if Empires last for centuries, they still have had a chance of crumbling, because of internal disputes & rebel movements (in the Ottoman Empire, etc.). Also, Afghanistan is having wars over tribal matters and many Arabic nations are having revolutions because of the suppression of basic human freedoms. So, totalitarianism and misogyny against females don’t equate into the Utopian golden paradise. We don’t have to be like Napoleon to be men. We just need to be ourselves with confidence, learning self defense, and building real Power to protect our interests (and preserve black unity globally among brothers and sisters. We are all in this together).
-By Timothy
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STOP....BEFORE YOU EVEN GET STARTED....AND LET ME GUESS...WHEN BM GET A FLAT TIRE...SHOULD WE JUST BUY A NEW CAR....AND NOT PUT IN THE WORK?.....MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL....RELATIONSHIPS ARE ALL ABOUT UNDERSTANDING,SUPPORT AND SACRIFICE...OR THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP TO AT ALL.....Kashta_Bureh wrote:
This is true with many Black American women, which is precisely why I've given up on them. Hell, I won't even talk to my mother on the damn phone, I will only write letters to her, that is how bad these women are.
I'm telling you, Black American women as a group suck. I ought to know, my grand parents had 8 kids, 6 of which are girls. Out of these 5 aunts I have, 4 have been divorced. Only my second youngest aunt is still married.
So for people to sit here and tell me that these women are normal, is absolutely asinine. Any Black man who has had any experience with foreign women will tell you that Black American women are far from being normal. If you want real women go to the Philippines or Colombia, because our women ain't it.
WOMEN ARE WOMEN...ANY INTELLIGENT,MATURE AND SANE MAN WHO BRINGS SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO THE TABLE AND WHO IS SAVVY ENOUGH TO SHOP AROUND FOR THE BEST OF THE BEST....OF WOMEN OF ANY RACE...STARTING WITH HIS VERY OWN...KNOWS THIS....
ONE: YOU ARE NOT A BM....WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE...SO STOP COMING HERE AND SPEAKING OUT ABOUT ISSUES AND CONCERNS THAT PERTAIN TO AA....AS IF YOU ARE!
TWO: I NEVER TYPED THAT MANY BW IN AMERICA ARE THIS OR THAT..I DID HOWEVER STATE THAT WITH "SOME" BW WE BM CAN'T WIN...HOWEVER....THIS VERY SAME STATEMENT COULD BE MADE BY ANY OTHER TYPE OF MAN...ABOUT THE WOMEN OF THEIR RACE....AND WM DO MAKE SUCH STATEMENTS..CONTRARY TO ALL OF THE BLINDLESS PRO WM NOISE COMING OUT OF IRBW MOUTHS AND MINDS.....WHICH WE ALL CAN CLEARLY SEE AND HEAR WITH OUR VERY OWN EYES AND EARS!
THREE: I AM MARRIED TO THE MOST FANTASTIC BW ON THE PLANET...SHE'S AMAZING....SHE IS IN FACT THE WOMAN OF MY DREAMS...AND TRUST ME...I'M VERY TEMPERAMENTAL AND PARTICULAR....I DON'T LIKE EVERYTHING....BUT I COULDN'T DO ANY BETTER THAN HER IN THREE MORE LIFETIMES....AND I'M NOT TRYING....MY EXPERIENCES WITH BW...WHILE NOT 100% PERFECT(HELL WHOSE IS?)HAVE FOR THE MAJORITY OF TIMES BEEN INCREDIBLE....SO NO NEED FOR ME TO BUY A BOAT OR PLANE TICKET JUST TO FIND A DATE WITH ANYTHING NONBLACK!
PERHAPS YOU NEED TO DEAL WITH THE MAN IN THE MIRROR....AND FIND OUT WHAT DON'T BW IN AMERICA SEE IN ME...I'M GOOD...BUT THANKS SPORT!
*YOU SOUND JUST LIKE ALL OF THE MINDLESS AND BRAINWASHED BW WHO CLAIM THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY THEN YOU HAVE TO DATE NONBM....PSSSHT...HOW RETARDED DO YOU SOUND?
-The Moor
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I knew you would respond in that fashion since that is how your type operates. Here’s some truth: There are many black Mexicans living in Mexico today. This population is of course small. There are tons of Afro-Latinos in Latin America South America (even Brueh talks about this all of the time). People who are of black African descent therefore number in far more than 40 million indeed in the Western Hemisphere. Being related to black people is very relevant since in black culture all black people are brothers and sisters. You can disagree with that view and that is your right. I accept my brothers and sisters worldwide and I respect my own black identity. I don’t need to scapegoat people of color to get my kicks. I don’t need to ignore racist white reactionaries (with ties to eugenics and the white supremacist system) that don’t give an inch of concern of my people either. I do base people’s actions on their behavior not on their skin color. I just don’t ignore the actions of people of a certain color (not all people of this color) causing police brutality, GMO food poisoning, immoral wars, eugenics, international population control, imperialism, corporatize corruption, and other evils beyond what illegal immigrants did in America. I don't ally with devils (or a select number of reactionaries) to be a saint.Hayden wrote:
Hispanics from mexico aren't related to black people and whether they are or not is irrelevant. You should base your opinions of people and situations on their actions not their skin color. If illegal immigration is wrong it's wrong regardless of who's doing it or what color their skin is.
LOL @ they have black blood so such and such. The only people related to you are your family. Other black people aren't even your family. You're not my brother because we both have brown skin. I don't know you.
Some Hispanics (not all) have black blood. That’s the fact that you must accept. People that are related to me are my brothers and sisters worldwide since all of my ancestors originally came from Africa. If you’re black, that’s some House Negro, slave minded tripe to refuse to believe that all black people are related to each other (since these black people are our brothers and our sisters for real). That opinion that you hold is a disgrace. Yet, anyway, the truth will prevail, hatred will end, and obsession with Mexicans in a bigoted tone isn’t in my agenda. A rational, comprehensive solution to immigration is better than extremism.
By Timothy
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Kashta_Bureh wrote:
Foreign Black women are totally better, as a group. Sure, there are exceptional Black American women, but they are extremely rare. Most of them are taken. I know Black guys who have been trying to get with AA women for years, I keep telling these dudes to just give up.
Every guy I know with a South American woman is happy. American women in general have a high divorce rate. Do you really think I want to risk a marriage with an "African American" woman? I would rather go play roulette in a casino. Yeah, there will be problems with a foreign Black woman, but those problems can be managed.
Its pretty simple: do what I say or I put your ass on a plane and send you back home and replace you with a new model.......see how that works? When you control all the money and power problems are minimized. I believe in control, and Black American women are difficult to control.
I have no issue with going out with foreign black women. Let’s just say, I’ve seen foreign black women and my goodness. Yet, I don’t view them as superior to AAW since all of these women are our sisters. All brothers and sisters have equal value irrespective of nationality. WE ARE ALL BLACK AND WE ARE ALL ONE. For cultural reasons & other reasons, 9 times out of 10, I will go out with AAW. Yet, I wouldn’t have an issue at all with dating or marrying a foreign black woman. We agree on many things and I respect your intellectual strength. You are a worthy debater even when we don’t see eye to eye on every specific issue. I sympathize with many brothers that have dating woes. Typically, the solutions for brothers in that position are to associate with a wider spectrum of black women (if they want to go out with sisters), build more confidence building techniques, go out with the sisters with similar occupations or interests that you have, and other methods. Some brothers with these issues desire the trophy wife or set up unrealistic expectations in a partner. That’s real. Giving up isn’t in my vocabulary since you realize that historically many black movements in America didn’t give up when they were fighting against Jim Crow oppression. Sometimes real love takes time and if a brother feels like dating foreign black women, that is cool. Yet, that brother shouldn’t issue blanket, false statements against AAW in the process though. The divorce rate generally in Western society (yes, it's high among white people too) is high across socioeconomic and racial backgroundsa because of various reasons. A man is a man. I do believe in power and control.
Yet, this control is mine over my body and my mind. I don’t believe in unfairly dominating a woman in a harsh manner in an immoral form of control. Power is fine if used correctly. Yet, if power is foolishly presented in a society, then instability and destruction will surely come. I don’t want Black American women to be brutalized or controlled by me immorally at all. If we men desire more harmony with sisters in America, we have to communicate with sisters in the USA honestly in how we feel, stand up for ourselves, present our true dignity to the world, and love these sisters as we love our people. I’m not saying live in a fantasy, but it is a great virtue to fight for justice and fight for unity with sisters in the States. Sisters should work together with men to control our own destinies, communities, lives, and power base. I know tons of sisters in the States personally that are real, down to Earth, cordial, and responsive to authentic conversations (even in the ghetto). Real power is the unity between AAW and AAM including unity among black people worldwide too. That’s power and that’s true control over our powerbase. WE ARE ALL BLACK PEROID.
By Timothy (Me)_________
This is very true, black people are the only race who are criticized for not dating out. I think that's why so many blacks do date out, because they're scared of being called "racist" if they don't.LouisianaEmperor7 wrote:Well obviously you the view the almighty's creation of various races to be beautiful or else you wouldn't be advocating the entire world mix it out and look like one people. Unfortunately for you, most people oppose interracial, so this fantasy of your will never ever ever come to be. There are millions of whites who don't date out, there are millions of blacks that don't date out, there are millions of Asians that don't date out. So this notion about us all being one people will never happen. But the poster Dreams is right, only blacks are deemed as racist for not wanting to mix out or give other races a chance. Meanwhile any other race that's not into dating other races are respected for their decision. It's almost like we're the world's sex toys and too many of you blacks just ride the wave without looking at it from various angles.
-TruthbknownLDN
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1. Black men should stop putting us down and thinking we should be made like the white woman, we are not built like white women so that will never happen.
2. Stop complaining that all black women are the same because we are not.
3. Show some appreciation to the sistas we love you guys but you guys need to start putting us on the pedestal too.
4. Stop showing your hate for women of color and stop uplifting another race of women who ate your women in general. That makes you look weak big time!
5. Stop acting like everything is black womens fault you make your own choices in life and who you want to sleep with.
5. We need just as much love as you need please understand that.
-beautiful black woman
crammasters on 5/02/2010 1:38PM
You raise an interesting point, one I've never heard before. Perhaps, that's part of it, the attack on the independent farmers.
I believe it is also an attempt to CLOSE THE DOOR on black reparations. Isn't paying the black farmers their due a form of black reparations? Then who will come knocking at the door next?
Because blacks who descended from slavery are owed TRILLIONS of dollars, and our slave labor made America AND Europe the powerfully rich nations they are today - and they know it
For those with short memories, when the UN Conference on Racism was held in Durban in April 2009, not only did Obama and his administration BOYCOTT the conference on "racism!", they removed the language talking about black reparations!
I don't know HOW or WHY black people were willing to overlook something this major, but once again, it speaks to our desire to have more show than substance when it comes to our "leaders."
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The military in various European nations may have a relationship with those nations, but this isn’t the real reason or total for their prosperity. The real reason is that public services and other unique solutions can be used in the right way to develop these nation’s services. The Netherlands is having economic growth without austerity as well. Greece is failing by IMF intervention and other privatization actions according to scholar Michael Hudson. EU intervention has caused issues in Portugal as well. The British Empire has been gone for decades. Cameron’s austerity conservative measures have done little to improve that nation's finances (and riots have occurred there). I’m an Independent, so Democrats aren’t gods. The Tea Party people have a right to express their views of austerity and war mongering. People like me have the right to disagree with those views. Taxation is found in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and it isn’t theft. You need revenues to build things. Cutting alone doesn’t work to have radical economic development.
Social Security isn’t an entitlement since people work to receive the benefits. Other services are used to help people as well. I comprehend a lot of information. I’ve refuted your type before (we know your type. Isn’t it obvious? You are a slick SNAKE). Tax increases have been higher in times past (from 1945-1975) causing great economic boon via progressive taxation. Taxation in the right way can be beneficial, but massive tax cuts for the wealthy have increased our deficit. We have record low taxation to the super rich in over 50 years and we still have unemployment in over 9 percent. Trickled down economics doesn’t work plainly speaking. Cutting out waste is fine, but stripping real services is foolishness. You hypocrites worship Ayn Rand and neoliberalism (when super banks have had speculations, participated in evil derivatives, etc.), but that snake oil doesn’t work anymore. You are a hypocrite by yelling about entitlements, but omit the reality that the big banks received trillions of dollars in handouts, loans, and other funds from the government. This didn’t work to move me into loving Austerity 101. I have love Jones for truth including sisters not wishful thinking or archaic economic philosophies in the 21st century.
-By Timothy
I believe it is also an attempt to CLOSE THE DOOR on black reparations. Isn't paying the black farmers their due a form of black reparations? Then who will come knocking at the door next?
Because blacks who descended from slavery are owed TRILLIONS of dollars, and our slave labor made America AND Europe the powerfully rich nations they are today - and they know it
For those with short memories, when the UN Conference on Racism was held in Durban in April 2009, not only did Obama and his administration BOYCOTT the conference on "racism!", they removed the language talking about black reparations!
I don't know HOW or WHY black people were willing to overlook something this major, but once again, it speaks to our desire to have more show than substance when it comes to our "leaders."
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The question is what are you talking about? Megabanks are hoarding trillions of dollars in cash as documented by Krugman and other scholars. We can solve the deficit crisis by doing a lot of things. We can grow the economy first and then have enough resources to handle the deficit long term. You want the opposite when we have record people in food stamps. Cutting massively when poverty is increasing is foolishness and it will cause more poverty. No real person is advocating the government to take all profits from millionaires and billionaires. People are just saying have populist solutions like an infrastructure bank, end the war on terror, have higher tax brackets for taxation, have a real jobs plan to decrease the unemployment rate, have investments in building our country, promote incentives for economic growth, and rebuild our infrastructure in America.zZZzz wrote:
What the hell are you talking about? The fundamental point is the USA is spending 1.65 TRILLION dollars per year it does not have. It has racked up a 15 TRILLION dollar deficit that is growing each day.
"[lol] it in in a far less efficient way, many times it is outright wasted.
The military in various European nations may have a relationship with those nations, but this isn’t the real reason or total for their prosperity. The real reason is that public services and other unique solutions can be used in the right way to develop these nation’s services. The Netherlands is having economic growth without austerity as well. Greece is failing by IMF intervention and other privatization actions according to scholar Michael Hudson. EU intervention has caused issues in Portugal as well. The British Empire has been gone for decades. Cameron’s austerity conservative measures have done little to improve that nation's finances (and riots have occurred there). I’m an Independent, so Democrats aren’t gods. The Tea Party people have a right to express their views of austerity and war mongering. People like me have the right to disagree with those views. Taxation is found in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution and it isn’t theft. You need revenues to build things. Cutting alone doesn’t work to have radical economic development.
Social Security isn’t an entitlement since people work to receive the benefits. Other services are used to help people as well. I comprehend a lot of information. I’ve refuted your type before (we know your type. Isn’t it obvious? You are a slick SNAKE). Tax increases have been higher in times past (from 1945-1975) causing great economic boon via progressive taxation. Taxation in the right way can be beneficial, but massive tax cuts for the wealthy have increased our deficit. We have record low taxation to the super rich in over 50 years and we still have unemployment in over 9 percent. Trickled down economics doesn’t work plainly speaking. Cutting out waste is fine, but stripping real services is foolishness. You hypocrites worship Ayn Rand and neoliberalism (when super banks have had speculations, participated in evil derivatives, etc.), but that snake oil doesn’t work anymore. You are a hypocrite by yelling about entitlements, but omit the reality that the big banks received trillions of dollars in handouts, loans, and other funds from the government. This didn’t work to move me into loving Austerity 101. I have love Jones for truth including sisters not wishful thinking or archaic economic philosophies in the 21st century.
-By Timothy
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crammasters on 5/02/2010 1:51PM
That's beside the point. It makes no sense NOT to hold him just as accountable as you would any other president.
This double standard suggests that some of you didn't vote for the right reasons, but simply cast a vote in the political equivalent of American Idol.
An election is NOT a popularity contest. It is about choosing a "leader" who is supposed to serve the interests of those who elected him.
Believe me, Linda, the day will come when you will need some relief from the Obama administration, and I doubt you'll take comfort in someone telling you to just "get over it."
This double standard suggests that some of you didn't vote for the right reasons, but simply cast a vote in the political equivalent of American Idol.
An election is NOT a popularity contest. It is about choosing a "leader" who is supposed to serve the interests of those who elected him.
Believe me, Linda, the day will come when you will need some relief from the Obama administration, and I doubt you'll take comfort in someone telling you to just "get over it."
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zZZzz wrote:
What is obvious to folks inside the USA and around the world is that France is well on the way to losing her character and becoming an insolvent, third world cesspool, due to the socialist policies she is pursuing.
Ironically these are the same policies Maxine Waters subscribes to.
That is why she and most of her party will be sent home in 2012.
Where has austerity worked long term? The fundamental point is that megabanks are hoarding trillions of dollars and they aren't spending it to even seek to create job growth. Many corporations are using outsourcing overseas and these issues are exacerbated by unfair trade deals and the excesses of globalization. Why are you talking about France? Sarkozy isn’t progressive on every issue. French President Nicolas Sarkozy has announced a series of deeply anti-democratic measures, including the persecution and deportation of Roma, the prosecution of the parents of young ‘offenders,’ and a proposed law enabling to government to strip immigrants of their French nationality. France wants a balanced budget rule in their constitution too. France’s economic problems existed because of complex reasons. Denmark, Norway, Sweden, etc. have strong public works systems and follow policies opposite of the Tea Party’s fiscal agenda. Yet, they aren’t experiencing extreme insolvency issues at all.
The false god of neoliberal economic ideology doesn’t work to create economic growth. You need some spending and some investments (from both the private and public sectors) to create economic growth. That isn’t a sin and it’s found even in the Constitution that the Tea partiers claim to love so much. Economic issues have been caused by privatization, corporate corruption, Wall Street speculation in the derivatives market, and other reactionary policies. Maxine Waters’ anger is directed to the Tea Party. The Tea Party hypocritically abhor government spending, but many of them rely on Social Security, Medicare, and other government program to help their existence. They hypocritically hate government intrusion yet Bachmann has been found to receive tons of government funds in her daily life. The policies of ending the war on terror, having populist economic policies, and defending the civil liberties of human rights can work wonders for human beings in general.
-By Timothy
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zZZzz wrote:
The reality is the massive military buildup under Reagan and the American bases all over Europe and Asia, providing for national defense of those nations on the US taxpayers dime, allowed all of these socialist Utopian dreams to come true all about Europe.
A small bump in the US economy causes your entire house of cards to fall down. If you lot were actually self dependant we would not be an issue, instead you riot when the government can no longer pay the bills.
You of course are an American pretending to be in France. Probably Savant.
you're generous in giving me an honorary US citizenship and believing i could be sir Savant ; maybe I'm more aware of US economy, politics and social realities than some, like the tea-partiers for example. For ex. there was no "massive military buildup" in Europe during the Reagan mandate and btw there was not a single NATO base in my country due to De Gaulle decision.
I'm a descendant of those, the French army and navy, that helped the real tea-partiers of the XVIIIth to fight for a real freedom not the racist, incompetent caricature of today.
I'm a descendant of those, the French army and navy, that helped the real tea-partiers of the XVIIIth to fight for a real freedom not the racist, incompetent caricature of today.
have you heard about "globalization" or "humanity" ?
Due to your US banksters and reaganite politicians, we, in Europe, got hit by YOUR subprimes and foreclosures. So i would worried at the perspective of total lunatics moving from Congress to the White House and put the whole world in danger like W already did.
Besides I have close US friends in particular among Black people and i don't want them in a Bachmann KKK hell or a Boehner inferno.
i hope this answers your question, a typically tea-party selfishness type of question btw.
Due to your US banksters and reaganite politicians, we, in Europe, got hit by YOUR subprimes and foreclosures. So i would worried at the perspective of total lunatics moving from Congress to the White House and put the whole world in danger like W already did.
Besides I have close US friends in particular among Black people and i don't want them in a Bachmann KKK hell or a Boehner inferno.
i hope this answers your question, a typically tea-party selfishness type of question btw.
a whiteboi
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Laura Ingram is a big-mouth hypocrite. She has the audacity to play the "holier than thou" card by calling out NBC's Today show for having Chris Brown on their show when she readily embraces a sexist, racist draft dodger such as Ted Nugent. Hey Laura, have you ever took the time to read Teddy boy's lyrics demeaning women? Not to mention his statements to the press. I guess it is okay to spew that hateful bile when you are conservative and white. So you go ahead and wrap yourself in the American flag and continue to show the world how much of a fraud and idiot you are.
-jdenny
C/S....And if thats the case what do Casey Anthony, Jared Lee Loughner, Charlie Sheen and Anders Breivik give white people?....LOL!!!
-Cal
and how does chris brown give aa a bad rap? why do some whites like to association the negatives of an individual with an entire race - except when its their own race of course??
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Do you mean the Homestead Act, the GI Bill, and Pell Grant system. Frankily, these items aren't private services at all (or folks getting up by their own bootstraps alone). The Homestead Act gave Western settlers a lot of free goodies to settle west, it gave people land, and give people less of an tax burden on acquiring access to colleges. Also, straight up explicit, racial quotas alone are banned by the Supreme Court. Many black people have risen to the top of their professions via hard work and determination not racial quotas. It's hypocritical for your type to obsess with affirmative action, but you won't say a syllable about the tax breaks for the wealthy, bailouts for Wall Street, or other forms of corporate pirating by the elite. Corporate corruption harming people across continents is far worst than affirmative action (and I agree with affirmative action for the poor and minorities in certain circumstances).CaptainBliss wrote:
Thanks to government enforced racial quotas.
So to use that race card as an excuse to imply black inferiority doesn't cut it since geniuses exist in the black race (in America plus worldwide too). You slick language can never inhibit black progress and your words will never deny the true black legacy. See, the black legacy is strong and it's about overcoming obstacles. It's about refuting nefarious stereotypes and it's about the promotion of true unity among black men and black women. That's Power and an authentic form of real black power is what you hate since you want division and you are afraid of radical improvements of the black community. Black heroes and great black professionals were here long before affirmative action existed and they continue to exist today.
-By Timothy (Me)
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WEB Dubois didn't use affirmative action and Booker T. Washington didn't use it. The late Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall didn't use it and black people worldwide don't use it either presently. I have no problem with it if it's utilized for a legitimate reason. Some of the wealthy are doing nothing to improve the economy. Some of them are hoarding wealth, having tax breaks, promoting unfair trade agreements, promoting eugenics, and promoting immoral wars worldwide. Also, jobs can be created by small business and public revenues without assistance by the super wealthy anyway. We need private and yes public assistance (in investments, infrastructure development, etc.) in order to acheive financial development. Also, many Hispanics and Asians have experienced affirmative action programs for decades. Your neo-con talking points don't work on a real smart brother. We brothers and sisters are on to your deceptive game. We don't believe in your distorted, bigoted precepts. We want justice and liberty not reactionary rhetoric.CaptainBliss wrote:
The wealthy are putting something into this country. Like jobs and enormous taxes. And if you have so many black heroes (O.J.?) then you don't need affirmative action. Asians don't. Hispanics don't. Why do you?
-By Timothy
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I'm not giving in into sucking up to a white supremacist system. I will strive to improve myself and my life without blanket stereotypes against my people. There are plenty of black women that are kind, that are tolerant, and are intellectually mature to incorporate real, lasting relationships. There is nothing wrong with calling Black women Queens since a black woman has every right to stand up with her head held high and exist with strength like royalty. A real man has no issue with a real black woman being strong. Many black women wear their hair natural, tons of black women respect their African features like the artist Erykah Badu including India Arie, and most black women are honorable folks. So, this old slander against BW is Uncle Tomish, it's cowardly, and it's nothing more than a white supremacist tactic in order to divide black unity. Black Unity, real solutions, and real cooperation are needed to fight back against the slander of BM and BW.
By Timothy
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Many black people have made errors and I give you that. Yet, there are tons of black people worldwide that oppose imperialism and oppression. I’m not concerned with what the doubters mention. We blacks have overcome odds before despite the claim of black Americans needing 1,661 years to catch up in terms of home ownership. That’s all the more reason to advocate a radical economic solutions to our problems that isn’t related to the status quo (the status quo brought us the recession we witness in the first place). I understand you anger at some traitorous Africans, but there were black Africans centuries ago who fought in anti-slavery efforts and revolts against European imperialists. Overt colonialism was defeated by activists like Kwame Nkrumah. The problem now is that we have neo-colonialism, which is a slicker via the influence of the IMF and the Western elite. Africans have many resources, but black people should work with the Africans to develop massive infrastructure in a higher levels (without imperialists trying to control it. Africans should develop futuristic plants, dams, and other resources themselves).
I don’t blame Africans for my issues or why the way things are totally. They or the people from Africa didn’t lynch my ancestors, they didn’t create the Maafa directly, they didn’t create Jim Crow, they didn’t cause police brutality, they didn’t divide families in America, and they didn’t promote psychological warfare against my own people (these realities are a product of a white supremacist system). They aren’t responsible for it. We want the similar goal of black cultural liberation. We should have responsibility individually, but ignoring white supremacy is not a battle tactic. It’s an omission when fighting a war. We just disagree on the methods to achieve the prize and the originators of this state that we witness today.
-By Timothy
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Here we go again. Stereotyping. When Truthslayer wrote: "Anyone ever ask themselves just WHAT turns a man away from women, especially those of his own race?
Is it the media?
Is it society?
Or is it personal experiences?
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Maybe, it's a combination of all the above, but let me say this. A mature person puts his or her own experiences in perspective, meaning the HANDFUL of men or women they PICKED have as much to say about THEM and their CHOICES (i.e., judgments) as it does about the other people. Surely, as reasonable, mature, intelligent people, we have to admit that NONE of us have dated enough people to say anything about the majority of MEN or WOMEN because we haven't DATED them.
For a BM to turn away from his entire race of women (bizarre) makes me wonder what his reaction is when an white employer "turns away" from him as a potential employee because of a few bad BM employees. Or a white policeman who "turns away" from treating them fairly because he just arrested five BM who were involved in criminal behavior. Guess he chalks that up to "normal" behavior, huh?
Sometimes, the logic of certain argument sounds like these individuals walked in the DOOR with issues that had NOTHING to do with the women they dated. No reasonable BM would say it was right for BW to judge all BM by their own personal experiences. Then, he would see the logic and necessity as judging people as "individuals". Funny thing is, he never remembers any of the BW he dogged out or any BW that were good to him. What do you call that? Selective amnesia.
And we BM have the nerve to wonder why we have to FIGHT for respect? What the hell kind of men take so much enjoyment in putting down their own race of women? Women who represent their mothers, sisters, daughters, cousins, nieces? All I can say is either one of three things are true:
(1) either he's got a f*cked up family, or
(2) he's f*cked up.
(3) or BOTH
I say, let the white folks (WW, too) have his a___. Who gives a damn? What good is a BM to a BW when he doesn't like BW? (strange, since his a___ came from a BW's womb)
We BM got as many flaws than our women. What if nobody wanted our less than perfect azzes? Where would we be? Where would WW be if a WM had some bad relationships and decided WW ain't shyt? Wouldn't you think he was a fool?
Even more evidence of dislike of women: Check out the end of Truthslayer's post:
"How to succeed with women - Succeed without them." (definitely hostile)
"Start shoveling the gravel." (WTF?)
"Little girls, you're outta AMMMMMMMOOOOOOOO!!!"
Sister, some men just don't like women. Period. Some find it perversely satisfying to taunt BW. I suspect they have problems with themselves and BW are just more acceptable to pick on. Kinda like the school yard bully picking on the smaller kids.
Some men don't like women. Some have mental issues. Childhood was all tore up. Some don't grow up and learn from their relationships, instead they continue to blame everybody but themselves. Some have SEXUAL issues (remember the D/L factor?)Never met a normal BM who spends a lot of time putting BW down. Never. Always something else going on...
Men like this have self-hatred problems. That type will f*ck over people just because they're black. See it all the time. Can't respect other blacks to save their lives, especially women. That type, however, will be as SWEET (key word) as PIE to a WW and then will claim WW are nicer than BW. Then will turn right around and give a BW hell then will claim BW are mean and evil. :-)
All the enemies the BM got out here, we and got time to pick on our women? Sick azz shyt. We are racking up some bad azz karma, cause God don't like ugly and he damn sure don't like men who don't honor and protect their own women.
I can't stand these damn posts and I don't give a damn if Truthslayer fires back or or anybody else doesn't like what I posted. This is some UNMANLY SHYT, stereotyping your own race of women and acting like non-black women's shyt don't stink.
Bottom line--YOU DON'T NEED A MAN LIKE THIS. LET THE WW HAVE HIS AZZ. BELIEVE ME, THEY'RE GETTING THE RAW END OF THE DEAL. :-)
Signed: a brotha who LOVES BW.
(no, i'm not posting this trolling for p___y. Got a woman. :-)
peace!
crammasters
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Thank you crammaster for bringing some sanity to this board.
teamplayer[/quote]
You're welcome, but let me say this. I didn't come on this board to win or put other BM down. I'm bothered by the EASE by which che WHITE MEDIA has succeeded in turning BM & BW against each other.
I predicted this years ago when I saw how the media CONSTANTLY portrayed IR (mostly BM/WW) couples on TV Talk shows, Court Shows, movies and television programs). I noticed the way they made damn near EVERY BW look evil, unstable and generally UNDESIRABLE.
Over the last several years, the media has tried to convince BM that the WW is his best friend. They show NOTHING BUT positive interactions between BM & WW and nothing BUT negative interactions between BM & BW.
Some of us BM SAW through the MADNESS but some have fallen for it. (not many, thank God). Of course, it's madness. WW--as a group -- aren't againt racism, they're against SEXISM. Their biggest gripe with this racist and sexist system is they are not getting their fair share of the spoils. I see the way many WW deal with BW. They are the FLIP SIDE of the WM dealing with the BM.
I had this WW at work come up to me and start bad-mouthing BW out of the blue, about their sexual easiness. I'm like, WTF, does this fool know who she's talking to? So, I happily reminded her azz about the pornography industry (mostly White) and those "Girls Gone Wild" videos. That ended that conversation because I guess she was feeling me out to see what kind of fool I WAS. We haven't talked since -- a good deal for my azz.
Bottom line, BM and BW are being MANIPULATED. Can't we see the strategy of divide and conquer? Don't we know this system is trying to destroy us? If you agree with that, how the hell can we pretend we don't need each other? Why aren't we seeing through the hype and asking oursevles why our relationships are always being portrayed through a negative lens? Of course, we need to hear all viewpoints but we should do that in the spirit of trying to understand each other, not to condemn each other.
Even if we don't date or marry IR we are still bringing this crazy azz hateful shyt to our BLACK relationships.
We gotta wise up, folks. The BIG GAME is being run on us. Aren't we tired of being played by now?
peace!
crammasters
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I'm with you. I'm sick of BW and BM bashing. I'm damn sick of hearing some BW or BM claim how "great" some WW or WM is. Bullshyt. If WW or WM were so great the white divorce rate wouldn't be over 50% (and it would be a lot higher if it wasn't for money, kids, and other complications).
Blacks gotta stop acting like we the only ones with relationship problems. We gotta stop buying into the HYPE. Relationships are TOUGH--period, no matter what color you are. We gotta see the BIG picture as to why our relationships are failing, starting with the trauma of slavery, then Jim Crow, then segregation, and the systematic attack on the black family which has never stopped since we've been here. More than anything, BM & BW gotta start looking in the mirror and ADMIT what we are doing wrong so we can make things better.
Regardless, there are BM like myself who ain't falling for the divide and conquer programming. IR-dating is NOT an option for me--period. There are too many BW out here in all shapes, sizes, colors and personalities for me to look elsewhere.
D___ divesity--I want somebody who shares my reality--the good and the bad--and understands it. I don't want a woman who doesn't have a clue what I go through as a BM or a black person. I don't want people looking at me thinking I THINK white women (people) are better than black women (people). I damn sure don't want a woman who does not understand my PASSION for a good pot of collard greens! Now, that's me. Might sound intolerant. Too bad. Just being honest, here. In saying this, I can't speak for no other BM but myself and let me go one further: I LOVE YOU, TOO, SIS.
Keep the faith--it ain't over until it's over.
peace!
-crammasters
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NoniJuice
I wrote my last post in haste. I'm retracting all that "suspicious" and D/L nation sh___. I ain't here to question anybody's sexuality. I don't know nobody on this board personally, so that was way out of order. Definitely didn't mean to drag you into the shyt.
I decided to ask an older head (BM) i knew why would a man spend a lot of time putting down all women. He said that man had probably been hurt. Maybe, tthe dude had a bad divorce or breakup and he can't let go of those hurt feelings. Even if the man was at fault, he still can't admit it. He just stays p____d off. He said the only way a man can get past that is he's gotta be able to not only forgive, he has to be able to forget.
He said the man's gotta stop dwelling on all that past bad s____ so he won't make the mistake of transferring all that old s____ to the next woman he meets. After he told me that, I was like, d____, alright... I understand how some dudes get totally bent out of shape about women because they been hurt and haven't got over it. Still, he's got only two choices. Stay stuck in hate mode or work on dealing with his feelings so he can move on.
One of my best partners just went through a bad divorce. He told me out of the blue that he was seeing a therapist and how he doesn't feel as bitter as he did before. I was shocked at first, 'cause he's the strong, silent type, but then I had to admire the dude for having the balls to admit he needed some outside help to get over the anger he was feeling toward his ex.
The point it, do whatever you gotta do to make life better. Shyt, life is too d_____ short as it is to waste it being p____d off.
peace!
crammasters
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Sorry you think like that. I can't exclusively white women since I love sisters too much. I like cholocate. Of course, I disagree with you on many levels. Black women are Queens for many reasons. One of the vital reasons is that they gave birth to us brothers and have been the greatest support system to us brothers. I haven't seen the white women, the Asian women, The Latina women, the Indian women, and all non-black women support the black man as the black woman has historically. It was the sisters or black women that constantly support BM in college, they were with us to oppose slavery, that fought with us valiantly against Jim Crow oppression, that worked with us in kindness and inspiration, and defended our cherish human rights (against police brutality, against torture, and against corporate corruption). So, yes, we owe black women a hell of a lot. Of course, vindicative people exist in some black people. Yet, these types of people exist in every race. What should be our response to our troubles in life, brother. Should it be the refusal to have unity with sisters in order to fight against white supremacy? No. The answer is to look ourselves in the mirror, admit our errors, hold our head up high, stand up for ourselves, speak up with authority & power, stand up for sisters, and stand up for our people. We have the right to respond courageously against anyone that verbally or emotionally mistreats us. We have the right to defend the honor of black women and we have the right to continue to defend the truth of black liberation. Not all sisters are monolithic in their personalities or attributes, so to assume that all black women act like a diva or possess egoism is a lie. If a man has confidence, true grit, and a real character, he wouldn't have a problem going out with a real sister. The most strong golddiggers and folks with the diva complex in the West aren't sisters. We know who they are.tellitstr8 wrote:I am a professional black male. Not a bum, hoodlum, drug dealer, none of that. I refuse to deal with ANY black women. The all have either a "diva" mentality or at the very least, a false sense of entitlement. I exclusively date white women. Black women walk around thinking that they are queens. Queens of what? If you have dealt with, or are tired of, lazy black men then change your selection process. I have no problem looking down my nose at. ANY black woman. We don't owe the black woman ANYTHING. You black women purchase insane amounts of fake hair trying to look European, when it comes naturally for the beautiful white woman. I have absolutely no respect, tolerance, or patience for ANY black woman. Black women deserve every bit of hardship and pain that they go through.
I'm not giving in into sucking up to a white supremacist system. I will strive to improve myself and my life without blanket stereotypes against my people. There are plenty of black women that are kind, that are tolerant, and are intellectually mature to incorporate real, lasting relationships. There is nothing wrong with calling Black women Queens since a black woman has every right to stand up with her head held high and exist with strength like royalty. A real man has no issue with a real black woman being strong. Many black women wear their hair natural, tons of black women respect their African features like the artist Erykah Badu including India Arie, and most black women are honorable folks. So, this old slander against BW is Uncle Tomish, it's cowardly, and it's nothing more than a white supremacist tactic in order to divide black unity. Black Unity, real solutions, and real cooperation are needed to fight back against the slander of BM and BW.
By Timothy
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I don’t subscribe to the pessimistic notion that every single black man and black women deserved to be bashed. The reason is that many blacks in America and worldwide are doing the right thing despite some black people acting as enemies (we know who they are). There are many black women I know personally (other than my relatives) that are intelligent, sweet, nice, outgoing, and with positive dispositions. Many blacks aren’t weak and have been fighting for centuries for our liberation. It’s just that all of us who are black should strive and fight even harder to make sure that our previous errors won’t repeat themselves. Every race suffered slavery even for centuries. Our experience is unique. Yet, one important lesson to learn from our experiences is that we fought back though in spite of our oppression. Frederick Douglas, Harriet Tubman, and other black leaders fought back to win battles in our struggle for social liberation. Today, we are in a crossroads in history since the real, hardcore knowledge exists in this technological, information age. The truth is in our face and now we (who are able bodied) differently have no excuses whatsoever to reach for our prize. I don’t believe that black people are in the bottom in the socioeconomic totem pole worldwide since I can name other peoples collectively suffering worst than us.Kashta Brueh wrote:Black men and women deserve to be bashed........because they are weak. The Black race is a weak race, how else could we have been enslaved for centuries on end? Whats more, we continue to suffer from slavery today Tim! Blacks are not conquerors, we are the conquered. We should have conquered the Europeans, not the other way around! Blacks are like..........we are like crash test dummies, a punching bag, a f*cking pinata!
I'm reading a book which says it will take Black Americans 1,661 years to catch up with Whites in terms of home ownership, can you believe that!? OVER ONE THOUSAND YEARS! Good lord, our ancestors f*cked us, West Africans really f*cked us. They f8ckd us so bad that it is damn near mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to ever catch up with Europeans.
That is why I will never, ever, forgive Africans. They deserve misery and death, no Diaspora Black should show mercy to them. Those bastards! They deserve to rot in hell! Their mental retardation has put our entire race behind the whole goddamn world!!!!!!! For centuries the White man has gotten ahead of us, for Christ sakes, they are about to build bases on the Moon! Blacks have nothing, absolutely nothing! We have no nuclear weapons, no satellites, no multi-national corporations, no stealth aircraft, no aircraft carriers, the Black race has nothing!
Many black people have made errors and I give you that. Yet, there are tons of black people worldwide that oppose imperialism and oppression. I’m not concerned with what the doubters mention. We blacks have overcome odds before despite the claim of black Americans needing 1,661 years to catch up in terms of home ownership. That’s all the more reason to advocate a radical economic solutions to our problems that isn’t related to the status quo (the status quo brought us the recession we witness in the first place). I understand you anger at some traitorous Africans, but there were black Africans centuries ago who fought in anti-slavery efforts and revolts against European imperialists. Overt colonialism was defeated by activists like Kwame Nkrumah. The problem now is that we have neo-colonialism, which is a slicker via the influence of the IMF and the Western elite. Africans have many resources, but black people should work with the Africans to develop massive infrastructure in a higher levels (without imperialists trying to control it. Africans should develop futuristic plants, dams, and other resources themselves).
I don’t blame Africans for my issues or why the way things are totally. They or the people from Africa didn’t lynch my ancestors, they didn’t create the Maafa directly, they didn’t create Jim Crow, they didn’t cause police brutality, they didn’t divide families in America, and they didn’t promote psychological warfare against my own people (these realities are a product of a white supremacist system). They aren’t responsible for it. We want the similar goal of black cultural liberation. We should have responsibility individually, but ignoring white supremacy is not a battle tactic. It’s an omission when fighting a war. We just disagree on the methods to achieve the prize and the originators of this state that we witness today.
-By Timothy
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Here we go again. Stereotyping. When Truthslayer wrote: "Anyone ever ask themselves just WHAT turns a man away from women, especially those of his own race?
Is it the media?
Is it society?
Or is it personal experiences?
------
Maybe, it's a combination of all the above, but let me say this. A mature person puts his or her own experiences in perspective, meaning the HANDFUL of men or women they PICKED have as much to say about THEM and their CHOICES (i.e., judgments) as it does about the other people. Surely, as reasonable, mature, intelligent people, we have to admit that NONE of us have dated enough people to say anything about the majority of MEN or WOMEN because we haven't DATED them.
For a BM to turn away from his entire race of women (bizarre) makes me wonder what his reaction is when an white employer "turns away" from him as a potential employee because of a few bad BM employees. Or a white policeman who "turns away" from treating them fairly because he just arrested five BM who were involved in criminal behavior. Guess he chalks that up to "normal" behavior, huh?
Sometimes, the logic of certain argument sounds like these individuals walked in the DOOR with issues that had NOTHING to do with the women they dated. No reasonable BM would say it was right for BW to judge all BM by their own personal experiences. Then, he would see the logic and necessity as judging people as "individuals". Funny thing is, he never remembers any of the BW he dogged out or any BW that were good to him. What do you call that? Selective amnesia.
And we BM have the nerve to wonder why we have to FIGHT for respect? What the hell kind of men take so much enjoyment in putting down their own race of women? Women who represent their mothers, sisters, daughters, cousins, nieces? All I can say is either one of three things are true:
(1) either he's got a f*cked up family, or
(2) he's f*cked up.
(3) or BOTH
I say, let the white folks (WW, too) have his a___. Who gives a damn? What good is a BM to a BW when he doesn't like BW? (strange, since his a___ came from a BW's womb)
We BM got as many flaws than our women. What if nobody wanted our less than perfect azzes? Where would we be? Where would WW be if a WM had some bad relationships and decided WW ain't shyt? Wouldn't you think he was a fool?
Even more evidence of dislike of women: Check out the end of Truthslayer's post:
"How to succeed with women - Succeed without them." (definitely hostile)
"Start shoveling the gravel." (WTF?)
"Little girls, you're outta AMMMMMMMOOOOOOOO!!!"
Sister, some men just don't like women. Period. Some find it perversely satisfying to taunt BW. I suspect they have problems with themselves and BW are just more acceptable to pick on. Kinda like the school yard bully picking on the smaller kids.
Some men don't like women. Some have mental issues. Childhood was all tore up. Some don't grow up and learn from their relationships, instead they continue to blame everybody but themselves. Some have SEXUAL issues (remember the D/L factor?)Never met a normal BM who spends a lot of time putting BW down. Never. Always something else going on...
Men like this have self-hatred problems. That type will f*ck over people just because they're black. See it all the time. Can't respect other blacks to save their lives, especially women. That type, however, will be as SWEET (key word) as PIE to a WW and then will claim WW are nicer than BW. Then will turn right around and give a BW hell then will claim BW are mean and evil. :-)
All the enemies the BM got out here, we and got time to pick on our women? Sick azz shyt. We are racking up some bad azz karma, cause God don't like ugly and he damn sure don't like men who don't honor and protect their own women.
I can't stand these damn posts and I don't give a damn if Truthslayer fires back or or anybody else doesn't like what I posted. This is some UNMANLY SHYT, stereotyping your own race of women and acting like non-black women's shyt don't stink.
Bottom line--YOU DON'T NEED A MAN LIKE THIS. LET THE WW HAVE HIS AZZ. BELIEVE ME, THEY'RE GETTING THE RAW END OF THE DEAL. :-)
Signed: a brotha who LOVES BW.
(no, i'm not posting this trolling for p___y. Got a woman. :-)
peace!
crammasters
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Thank you crammaster for bringing some sanity to this board.
teamplayer[/quote]
You're welcome, but let me say this. I didn't come on this board to win or put other BM down. I'm bothered by the EASE by which che WHITE MEDIA has succeeded in turning BM & BW against each other.
I predicted this years ago when I saw how the media CONSTANTLY portrayed IR (mostly BM/WW) couples on TV Talk shows, Court Shows, movies and television programs). I noticed the way they made damn near EVERY BW look evil, unstable and generally UNDESIRABLE.
Over the last several years, the media has tried to convince BM that the WW is his best friend. They show NOTHING BUT positive interactions between BM & WW and nothing BUT negative interactions between BM & BW.
Some of us BM SAW through the MADNESS but some have fallen for it. (not many, thank God). Of course, it's madness. WW--as a group -- aren't againt racism, they're against SEXISM. Their biggest gripe with this racist and sexist system is they are not getting their fair share of the spoils. I see the way many WW deal with BW. They are the FLIP SIDE of the WM dealing with the BM.
I had this WW at work come up to me and start bad-mouthing BW out of the blue, about their sexual easiness. I'm like, WTF, does this fool know who she's talking to? So, I happily reminded her azz about the pornography industry (mostly White) and those "Girls Gone Wild" videos. That ended that conversation because I guess she was feeling me out to see what kind of fool I WAS. We haven't talked since -- a good deal for my azz.
Bottom line, BM and BW are being MANIPULATED. Can't we see the strategy of divide and conquer? Don't we know this system is trying to destroy us? If you agree with that, how the hell can we pretend we don't need each other? Why aren't we seeing through the hype and asking oursevles why our relationships are always being portrayed through a negative lens? Of course, we need to hear all viewpoints but we should do that in the spirit of trying to understand each other, not to condemn each other.
Even if we don't date or marry IR we are still bringing this crazy azz hateful shyt to our BLACK relationships.
We gotta wise up, folks. The BIG GAME is being run on us. Aren't we tired of being played by now?
peace!
crammasters
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Why? Wrote:
I don't feel it is an honest portrait of what is going on. I am so sick and tired of these one sided movies that bash the black man or the black women. In one movie black men aren't sh*t but womanizers, jigalos,ex-convicts,absentee fathers etc, etc and in another movie black women are the overbearing, insensitive, angry, golddiggers who have yet to comprehend the term compromise. And we (both black men and women) feed into this like were idiots. Instead of taking responsibility for the way we treat each other and hurt each other we blame the opposite gender for all of our problems. And these types of movies only perpetuate those attitudes. Until we look at ourselves honestly and work collectively to be better husbands, wives, girlfriends, boyfriends, mothers, fathers and all the other roles we play in each others lives these types of movies will continue to have an audience. What's worse than that, is that we continue to treat relationships with people outside of our race better than those we have in our race. This is just another divide and destroy movie. I still love my black men and I hope they still love me.
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I'm with you. I'm sick of BW and BM bashing. I'm damn sick of hearing some BW or BM claim how "great" some WW or WM is. Bullshyt. If WW or WM were so great the white divorce rate wouldn't be over 50% (and it would be a lot higher if it wasn't for money, kids, and other complications).
Blacks gotta stop acting like we the only ones with relationship problems. We gotta stop buying into the HYPE. Relationships are TOUGH--period, no matter what color you are. We gotta see the BIG picture as to why our relationships are failing, starting with the trauma of slavery, then Jim Crow, then segregation, and the systematic attack on the black family which has never stopped since we've been here. More than anything, BM & BW gotta start looking in the mirror and ADMIT what we are doing wrong so we can make things better.
Regardless, there are BM like myself who ain't falling for the divide and conquer programming. IR-dating is NOT an option for me--period. There are too many BW out here in all shapes, sizes, colors and personalities for me to look elsewhere.
D___ divesity--I want somebody who shares my reality--the good and the bad--and understands it. I don't want a woman who doesn't have a clue what I go through as a BM or a black person. I don't want people looking at me thinking I THINK white women (people) are better than black women (people). I damn sure don't want a woman who does not understand my PASSION for a good pot of collard greens! Now, that's me. Might sound intolerant. Too bad. Just being honest, here. In saying this, I can't speak for no other BM but myself and let me go one further: I LOVE YOU, TOO, SIS.
Keep the faith--it ain't over until it's over.
peace!
-crammasters
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NoniJuice
I wrote my last post in haste. I'm retracting all that "suspicious" and D/L nation sh___. I ain't here to question anybody's sexuality. I don't know nobody on this board personally, so that was way out of order. Definitely didn't mean to drag you into the shyt.
I decided to ask an older head (BM) i knew why would a man spend a lot of time putting down all women. He said that man had probably been hurt. Maybe, tthe dude had a bad divorce or breakup and he can't let go of those hurt feelings. Even if the man was at fault, he still can't admit it. He just stays p____d off. He said the only way a man can get past that is he's gotta be able to not only forgive, he has to be able to forget.
He said the man's gotta stop dwelling on all that past bad s____ so he won't make the mistake of transferring all that old s____ to the next woman he meets. After he told me that, I was like, d____, alright... I understand how some dudes get totally bent out of shape about women because they been hurt and haven't got over it. Still, he's got only two choices. Stay stuck in hate mode or work on dealing with his feelings so he can move on.
One of my best partners just went through a bad divorce. He told me out of the blue that he was seeing a therapist and how he doesn't feel as bitter as he did before. I was shocked at first, 'cause he's the strong, silent type, but then I had to admire the dude for having the balls to admit he needed some outside help to get over the anger he was feeling toward his ex.
The point it, do whatever you gotta do to make life better. Shyt, life is too d_____ short as it is to waste it being p____d off.
peace!
crammasters
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The debt ceiling was raised in order to pay for already existing expenditures. I love the way folks keep saying that liberals only spend, because conservatives do as well--only on different things. At any rate, there are times when we have to spend in the short run in order to save money in the long run. That is just as true in governments as in the everyday lives of individuals.see the light wrote:They were against raising because we would only get deeper and deeper in debt. Liberals know only of spending money, never trying to save any. Why is it, none of you can see that?
-Anne
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Since the end of the extreme Saharan desiccation, lasting from before 25,000 years ago up to about 15,000 years ago, the Sahara has had post- and pre-Holocene cyclical climatic changes (Street and Grove 1976), and corresponding increases and decreases in population are probable. Wetter phases with better habitats perhaps allowed for increased colonization and gene and cultural exchange. Desiccation would have encouraged the emigration and segmentation of populations, with resultant genetic consequences secondary to drift producing more variation. During the last glacial period, the Sahara was even bigger than it is today, extending south beyond its current boundaries (Ehret 2002). About 13,000 years ago, large parts of the Sahara were as dry as the desert is now (White and Mattingly 2006). The end of the glacial period brought more rain to the Sahara, especially from about 8500 to 6000 BC (Fezzan Project 2006). By around 3400 BC, the monsoon retreated south to approximately where it is today, leading to the gradual desertification of the region (Kröpelin 2008). Thus the Sahara, through its cyclical environmental changes, might be seen as a microevolutionary “processor” and/or “pump” of African people that “ejected” groups to the circum-Saharan regions in times of increasing aridity..
Specific sub-Saharan lineages appeared mainly restricted to southern Portugal, and could be attributed to historic Black slave trade in the area and to a probable Saharan Neolithic influence. In fact,(U6 haplotypes of specific)
->North African origin<- have only been detected in the Iberian peninsula northwards from central Portugal. Based on this peculiar distribution and the high diversity pi value (0.014 +/- 0.001) in this area compared to North Africa -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12627534
-SEXYBLKWOMAN
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