Sunday, October 30, 2011

The Poor

The redistribution of wealth from the 1% who have control of most of it to the other 99% who had the biggest share in creating it will benefit the dispossessed across racial lines. If poverty is eliminated, poor people (who come in all colors) with be liberated from deprivation. Only insofar as proportionately ore Blacks than whites are in poverty will it benefit blacks more. But hunger is hunger. How many poor whites would agree to see their children suffer only because to end this suffering means that Black children are also delivered from this suffering. If redistribution of wealth in a cooperative society means the end of unemployment, how many poor and unemployed white workers are going to say "Well if you're going to find work for those blacks too, then I'd prefer to stay uenployed"? Moreover, since progressive reforss will end the tyranny of the 1% over many of the 99% who are educated and middle class, one could argue that here it benefits whites more than blacks. Proportionately, there are fewer educated middle class Blacks like me than there are educated middle class whites. Do you think that I will object to what will improve the lives even of the middle classes just because ore whites--generally being more affluent---will benefit? Providing racial discrimination doesn't come into the picture, I have no objections. Frnakly, I want ot see a lessening of both RACE and CLASS inequality. Any progressive refors leading toward that end will get my vote.


-Savant

http://www.scribd.com/doc/56171770/Encyclopedia-of-African-History


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THosr "segments of the left' include students, nurses, hospital workers, teachers, firemen,public employees, employess of Verizon, vets of the Iraq War, Churchmen, etc. The 99% movement that has taken hold in Baltimore is now spreading to Annapolis A pretty broad section of the American people. Oh, the the level of public approval for the 99% movement is HIGHER than for the Tea Party. Perhaps the "left" is the FUTURE of America. P.S. Don't be so sure that the protests will fail. "Left" protests were thought defeated after the dispersal of the bonus army. But those protests, in the form of militant labor activism, actually triumphed in the 1930s. Protests in the 1960s were quite effective also. FoxNews and Right are not frantically trying to smear the movement with labels like "Communist, " "nazi", "unwashed hippies" or what have you without a reasons. Your indoctrinators are wll aware of the potential power of thie movement. And they're scared s____ ! The end of plutocracy? FREEDOM RISING!

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MmCarthy was WRONG, and should have himself been punished for subverting the Republic. Another thing comes to mind: Reactionaries screma about BIG GOVERNMENT tyranny whenever it comes to social justice issues like civil rights, universal health care, education, rights of workers,etc. Yet they DEFEND and CELEBRATE real government tyranny such as McCarthyism or the Patriot Act. And I don't recall that many rightwingers were all that upset about COINTELPRO either. Now those were REAL governmental oppressions.s That's ok with the reactionaries. But don't try to use Government to aid the poor, the elderly, working people, those lacking health car. Any governmental action aimed toward SOCIAL JUSTICE, the rightwing loons call big government tyrannny. But McCarthyist witchhunts are ok with the right. Frankly, I suspect most conservatives nowadays to be more like FASCISTS than traditional conservatives. 

Probably even a few of the people whom Joseph Stalin accused of being spies really were, but terror tactics injure more innocent people than guilty ones. The same for the McCarthyist witchhunt. MAINLY innocent people were injured, though the witch hunting Inquisitor McCarthy may have also lucked out an bagged a few real spies. You know, it's kind of like fortune tellers. They don't REALL7 know the future; but if you make enough predictions, they get a few of them right just by chance. Then then they ADVERTISE their few successes while ignoring or hiding their INNUMERABLE failures and errors. Such was the casew with McCarthy. The difference between him and Joe Stalin is that most of McCarthy's victims were not shot or imprisoned in camps (though their were some wrongful imprisonments). And we have some Constitutional protections--thoug h DAMAGED by McCarthyism---whic h prevented the Inquisitor McCarthy from creating a murderous totalitarian nightmare in America.


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Shoutout13Moderator4 hours ago
I'm sure that if this hadn't come out in the news, it would have been used against him in the unlikely event of his election so they could switch him out with the white candidate that they had planned to stop the ongoing progress of minority office holders.

Conservatives have the nerve to say people voted for our current President because he's black but have nerve to insult us further by arguing with our rejection of a candidate who is black.

Don't you get it? It's about more than skin color and at one time, there was no alternative but white candidates. So does that mean whites voted for their candidates because they are white? With this recent, revealing insult, it would seem so.

Herman Cain is an Afro-puppet controlled by the Koch brothers:
http://newsone.com/nation/asso...

And below is an article that most brothaz and sistahs are not aware of:

http://www.newyorker.com/repor...

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I knew the 'dirt' would come out on this guy, if this is true. He's been the only candidate, who had a 'clean' record that has been running for the klan party...now this!

Let's face it my negroid people...the Black man cannot make it in the white boy's political arena!

BOYCOTT BOTH PARTIES; THEY MEAN US NO GOOD!


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DimePiece" on 3/24/2009 10:48AM (in reference to the racist Tammy Bruce)
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What a IGNORANT, DISRESPECTFUL, and HATEFUL individual she is! For her to call the FIRST LADY "TRASH" how disrespectful and ugly she is! First Lady Obama has a lot of "CLASS". She is the one that is "TRASH". How dare she! She is just jealous because, Michelle Obama is First Lady, is married to President Barack Obama, and has it GOING ON! I hope her A__ gets fired! First Lady Obama and the public deserves an apology! People that do or say evil, disrespectful, ignorant, and hateful things to other people something bad will always come back DOUBLE and you will not be BLESSED! Believe that!!!!!

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Shoutout13Moderator1 hour ago
The way they formed that spin-off Tea Party and used it as a way to attack blacks without it seeming to come from them shows that this is untrue.

Where were these "concerned" people to call Bush Hitler when he started the trend of bailouts at the expense of roads, bridges and our country's infrastructure and without a taxpayer vote?

The GOP mostly uses blacks to attack other blacks and to mask their often racist and obstructionist policies.

http://newsone.com/nation/case...

http://newsone.com/nation/news...

http://newsone.com/nation/news...

http://newsone.com/nation/news...

One of the fake people's movement's founders (the Koch brothers) is not only against blacks but against workers' rights in general and secretly funds campaigns to undermine them the same way Rupert Murdoch instigated the Patriot act and illegal wiretaps for which he is still not being held accountable by the very media that he controls most of (what's that tell you about the "real intention" of the patriot act?).

http://newsone.com/nation/case...

The GOP is the new black like a noose would be a new necktie.

http://www.newyorker.com/repor...

I'm still not drinking the Kool-Aide.

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HelloWorld3 wrote:
I did not need to hear all of this bs. I clearly said they must not be smart then. Dr king and malcom x wtf mention someone else. Who obama ? The mixed bm ? I was saying MAJORITY of successful bm aren't with bw. Therefor they aren't so "smart" as kashta was saying. If they were smart they would be with some type of black women. Foreign american something. But not all successful bm who aren't with bw are dump or stupid for being with a nb women. Love has no color. But for the majority they CHOOSE to be with a certain woman it doesn't "just happen" like ir relationships should.
You don't have to listen or read my words. It's part of the freedom of speech for me to express myself. Most black men are with or married to black women. Even most so-called successful black men are married with sisters, so that white supremacist lie doesn't work on me. I can name more than Dr. King and Malcolm X. I can name Denzel, Kwame Ture, Michael Vick, Forest Whitaker, I can name Bill Cosby, I can list Dr. Claud Anderson, brothers in my family, etc. These people are smart and strong with sisters. You have the right to go out with who you want. Yet, if a person does cross that line, that person shouldn't on some pro-black family stuff (or some bash BM mentality) if you cross that line. If someone crosses that line, that person shouldn't stereotype their own people in the opposite gender. People will make choices. Only a minority of black men are with non-black women (and vice versa) and you know this. White people have higher rates of IR than black people do. Love has no color, but color is a reality. Racial matters didn't end in 2008 and self hatred should be fought against. Gender unity among males and females is more important than seeking approval from vanilla to be P.C. We don't live in some Kumbaya Utopia since Sean Bell, the 6 year old girl murdered by crooked police in Detroit, and other recent events proved that we don't live in some post-racial society. Why are some of the "love has no color" types are some of the most admamant haters of Black Unity and Black Power?

It makes me wonder. Well, we know the reason why.


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my hat's off to jmarie and all the lovely black ladies on this thread!!

finally, I'm hearing what I've been promoting for years.

STOP SUPPORTING BM WHO DO NOT SUPPORT YOU. Do not see their movies, watch their TV shows, buy their music CDs, books, magazine articles, or sing their praises.

You are right when you say these Latina, Asian and white females will NOT support BM entertainers financially -- only YOU will so the question is, when will black women stop allowing US to disrespect you?

Because, believe me WE won't support any BW who disses us publicly. Anytime a BW does that, the average brother is THROUGH...

Also, let me add one last ingredient to this pot called "HYPE." The mainstream media DELIBERATELY promotes and provokes these "wars" between BM and BW to divide and conquer us, to demoralize you, and to get YOU to blame all of US.

These "producers" script all these so-called "reality" dating shows, and the black participants are TOLD to pick non-blacks, especially as the winners.

The fact that they do it willingly and eagerly is a whole another story (because they are sick and self-hating), but don't fall for the hype, most BROTHERS prefer you (and that includes me, obviously).

And after the cameras stop rolling, these mixed-up couples go their separate ways, paychecks in hand. It's all about the MONEY for them and DIVIDE and CONQUER and promoting WHITE SUPREMACY for the white media.

DON'T FALL FOR THE HYPE, LADIES!


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Jeter gives a word of wisdom and encouragement to the ladies of the Long Beach Poly Track team. Very good advice given...listen up.
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Tuesday, October 25, 2011

The Occupy Movement, etc.



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Great Summary of Choices...



The SAD American Meat Centered Diet is not only unnaturally cruel to animals [google CAFO Animal Factory Farms] & unhealthy for humans, but is also very destructive to the ecosphere. Moving away from the SAD Diet, GMO crops & industrialized farming- along w conservation & efficiency- must be considered if people are serious about preseving ecosphere & their own health & well-being.
Solar power can be used for more than just generating electricity - in many regions sunlite can be directly used to heat water & for cooking also.
For tidal power google 'Salters Duck'- Back in the 1980s its prototype converted ocean wave energy to mechanical energy at a max efficiency of 90% & then mechanical to electricity again at a max efficiency of 90% - thus total max efficiency = 81%. Even if only about half that efficiency can be attained in practice [IE: 40% - 45%] that = the efficiency of a hi-efficiency diesel engine. But like the GM's electric car they've suppressed this technology.
Bio-gas produces methane gas, the cleanest burning hydro-carbon, & organic fertilizer [so we can move away from environmetally degrading petro-chem based fertilizers] from organic waste - so bio-gas addresses 3 issues [waste management, organic fertilizer & clean burning methane gas production {without poisonous hydro-fracking] using one simple technology. Plus bio-gas digesters & solar- panels / water-heaters / cookers -&- even wind turbines - are very scalable from the industrial- to the farm- to the neighborhood- to the home. Scalabity is important in order to get off of their grid & meter.

In order the radically [but non-violently] change or even bring down this system, we're going to have to seize power & control but NOT Necessarily Political Power! The current poly-trickal system is rigged - we've got about as much chance of making substantive changes via this rigged corp-controlled 2 party system [Corp Dims vis-a-vis Corp Repugs] as we've got at beating the house in a Vegas gambling casino! Thus- If the main Bankster banks are Citi-Bank, BoA Bank, Well Fargo Bank, etc - then we need to move our money out of these so-called 'Too Big to Fail' Bankster Banks- into local community banks & credit unions. They want us plugged into their {control}grid & meter which keeps us hooked on coal, oil, mined gas & nuke power- insuring they continue to get more profits & maintain control- thus we need to move toward more localized power via solar, bio-gas, wind, etc- which makes us less dependent on their control grid - as well as preserving the environment. Like-wise for food, we need to seize more of our power by growing more / most of our own food [or at-least buy from more local food producers] - making us less dependent on their adulterated industrialized food control chains [plus it would be healthier for us]. If enough people do this we can break their power- & it doesn't require voting in rigged elections either!


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hassanhussein wrote:
America is a trap. You pay so much to go to University to hear a professor tell you that you will not get a job because you are black. And then all of a sudden we have a black president. It is a land of hypocrisy. They want you to feel bad because you are black. They say that black men are the majority in prison, yet the prisons are packed with white Nazis and Latino Cartels. They say that black men are drug dealers, yet the Cocaine, Heroin and even marijuana & extacy cultivation farms are financed by whites.
Fact. Whites are more likely to engage in drug related activity & yet black & brown men are incarcerated at higher rates for such crimes.

-NYChoney
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The Time For Choice




"People can choose to be ruled by rich men who call themselves “markets” or they can trust themselves to erect public institutions that are responsive to human needs."
This is the stark choice facing citizens at this point in time. Do we choose to submit to High Tech Feudalism or do we choose to struggle and create participatory democracies built on shared work, responsibility and rewards?
Many of us have been angry and resigned to a dystopian future of submission to corporate oligarchs for some time now. Some people are resigned because they believe they have no choice in dealing with devastating job loss, home foreclosure and loan shark style student debt. Others are waiting for Hope and Change to set things right.
All of us are told daily by the mouth of the beast (the media, movies and television) that we have no rights that the oligarchs are bound to respect. ‘Resistance is futile’ they whisper with nearly every television show, book and news article.
As far as the oligarchs and their lackeys are concerned, the majority of citizens are in the same position as free African-Americans in America in 1837. On the flimsiest of pretexts, a citizen’s "free papers" (Constitution and Bill of Rights) can be confiscated, shredded or burned at any time with the citizen shoved into bondage with little or no recourse.
At this moment, we still have the ability to choose, and choice is powerful. We can choose between:
A private banking system that exists only to steal money from working people or a system of publicly owned state and municipal banks that recycles tax dollars back to Main Street, in the form of low interest small business loans, schools, parks, mass transit, health, housing and neighborhood services.
An industrial food system that saturates our soil, water and air with poison, tortures the animals we eat and contaminates the food supply with genetically engineered organisms or public and transparent citizen institutions that protect and maintain vital natural systems such as water, food and seeds, mountains, forests, rivers and oceans.
An outdated and highly concentrated energy system that pollutes rivers and oceans with oil and toxic dispersants, blows off the tops of mountains for dirty coal and “fracks up” fresh water supplies or clean, decentralized, renewable energy from the sun, wind, waves, geothermal and biodigestion.
This window of choice will not last long. It has been creeping ever downward for thirty-five years. Only determined, long-term action by citizens can make a difference. The newborn Occupy movement and parallel movements like Peoples Organization for Progress seem to instinctively know this and have made a choice to act. What will the rest of us choose?

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phazex_femaleModerator1 day agoin reply to randymoo05w
D___ right. Some of our black people operate as though they were afraid to step out and take care of their own. Other races are in ya face with this. And you are correct in your assertion--Cali is experiencing the very same problem, even at the professional level. There is so much "bogus" paper-work out there qualifying illegal aliens as legitimate. You are right, it is LONG over-due that we as black people stop contending over "stupid chit" and take care of our OWN. This race and others? Do NOT give a rat's a___ about YOU. Believe that. Do what you KNOW needs to be done to propel our BLACK race FORWARD. Peace.
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Note by Me: Pat Buchanan is dead wrong. I mention these word since I agree with the writer on blacks organizing their own community and being able to create more businesses for black people. Pat is wrong since illegal immigration is morally wrong, but immigrants collectively haven't caused Jim Crow, inequalities, and other serious problems in our nation. Supremacists have and corporate power have caused immigration issues also. Also, Pat doesn't just oppose illegal immigration. He want all immigration to stop, which is morally wrong since humans have the right to migrate to any nation period within the framework of moral means.

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MsObsidianModerator10 hours agoin reply to Harvey33
I agree with you 100% White women, gays (white gays), and every other ethnic groups besides Black Americans are riding on the coat tails of what your and my forefathers fought, were lynched, and sprayed down with water hoses for. I am sick of it. We as Black Americans need to have an insular attitude like everyone else. We need to pull our resources, stop wasting our money on weaves, rims, and other mess that depreciate and start investing in the guns. Give up the butter folks! We need to start owning businesses in our community, we need to stop patronizing foreign owned businesses in our community. The things we blow our money on, we need to corner the market (i.e. owning and distributing what we spend money on). Yes, all people of color have been victim of white privilege via colonialism and imperialism. However, that has not stopped Asians, Middle Easterners, Black Africans and Caribbeans, and Latin Americans for having a pompous attitude towards Black Americans. As a result of this behavior, we as Black Americans need to stop trying to include everyone in our struggle because our struggle is by no means equal. The inequities are blatant. How is it immigrants can come here and open up businesses in our community? All of that is by design. Look at it ... liquor stores, corner stores, hair stores, dollar stores, ghetto flea markets - most of these institutions are foreign owned. Hell, most of the time they won't even hire us but we spend our money with them. Isn't that ironic, and quite pathetic! Black Americans need to be against illegal immigration. Americans period- need to be against illegal immigration! It is not fair how they can come in this country, breed kids left and right and get American benefits. If it was the other way around, they will go hell and high water to get us out of their country. I feel and the law states to be an American citizen, one must go through the naturalization process like everyone. In the case of Black Americans, we are even more America because we didn't voluntarily come here, our ancestors were brought here. So that makes us unique. Claude Anderson stated in Black Labor, White Wealth that we need to stop calling ourselves immigrants. The American media loves to push that down our throats. WE ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS! We are indigenous to this country because we survived and adapted here. I would like for all Blacks (including Afro-Caribbeans, Afro-Latin Americans, and Africans) to come together, but they do get caught up in the incessant and ridiculous racial dynamics of this country. They come here already with a mindset or later adapt a mindset where they look down on Black Americans, but is quick to shot kumbaya when the s___ hit the fan. For example, after 9/11 Middle Easterners had their n___ moment and was petitioning the NAACP. But prior to 9/11 they were and still are quick to pull out a bat and be quick to be the same Negroes down who patronize their businesses. This is the type of mess that pisses me off. Like Paul Mooney said "everybody wanna be a n____________, don't wanna be a n________". Pat Buchanan is right, but he words alone shouldn't be the wake up call that Black Americans need. What he said is already known. It shouldn't take someone like Pat Buchanan to make us realize that illegal immigration pose a threat to our economic viability.
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Peoples425Moderator22 hours ago
Okay... let's get this straight, basically the idea is that get rid of the people taking the jobs that most "Americans" wouldn't take regardless and expect Black people to take those very same jobs?
Let's not even address the fact that jobs are being shipped overseas with no ramifications and recording record breaking profits while our economy is slumping and our own people are suffering without jobs to support themselves. Immigration may be an issue in a few states, but it's not as big an issue as the corporations that refuse to pay taxes or the ones sending jobs out of the country.
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cocoa09Moderator1 day agoin reply to J.R.
White people have stolen from every corner of the inhabited earth. The British amassed great wealth by enslaving West Africans and proceeded to steal America from the indigenous people. The Spaniards, Portuguese, French and the Anglos colonized South and Central America and the Caribbean islands. They stole the sugar, rum, tropical fruit, coffee and anything else they could get their hands on, while using Africans for free labor. The British, French, Spaniards, Dutch, Italians and Portuguese colonized Africa for the purpose of robbing it of its gold, diamonds, coffee, cocoa, salt, oil, precious artifacts, written knowledge, etc., etc. The British stole tea from China, emeralds from Afghanistan, books from Egypt... Need I continue? White people have stolen people, land, priceless artifacts, precious gems, food, the knowledge of horticulture, medicine, monotheism, beverage making (wine, beer, coffee, tea, liquor), and architecture from Africans, Indigenous Americans, Asians and Arabs. White people perfected the art of exploitation. They have grown wealthy and built nations based on the labor of African men, and the ingenuity of people of color. You have nothing to be proud of. You have a disgraceful legacy. So don't talk to us about food stamps, WIC and 'set asides'. White people have never believed in the principle of hard work. You've stolen everything you have. The labor of African men and women provided the basis for what has become the wealthiest nation the world has ever known. Without the presence of Africans the British would have perished in the colonies. And how did they repay us? They raped our women. They murdered an estimated 150,000,000 of us. So don't get it twisted. No social welfare programs could possibly repay the debt you owe. Let me know if you need another history lesson.
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None of Your BModerator1 day agoin reply to J.R.
No J.R., its 2011 the year that 50.3% of EBT, WIC and food stamp handouts in America went to WHITE people. It's 2011 the 235th year in a row that there were MORE White folks living in poverty than Blacks, more White folks having children out of wedlock than Blacks and more Whites using and abusing children, drugs and alcohol than Blacks.

The difference? White folks are sitting in those police cars and in the courts to help your worthless a___s beat the rap.

Move along? You first.
And take your half-White president with you.
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LexeModerator2 weeks ago
This incident reveals the dangerous mentality behind this largely white mob. People who have survived civil wars, like Bosnia, stress the importance of being around people who look lime you, during violent uprisings. It can easily become an us versus them scenario, with deadly results. Consider the recent incidents where Black men were viciously beaten while hanging out in all white bars...
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Probably even a few of the people whom Joseph Stalin accused of being spies really were, but terror tactics injure more innocent people than guilty ones. The same for the McCarthyist witchhunt. MAINLY innocent people were injured, though the witch hunting Inquisitor McCarthy may have also lucked out an bagged a few real spies. You know, it's kind of like fortune tellers. They don't REALL7 know the future; but if you make enough predictions, they get a few of them right just by chance. Then then they ADVERTISE their few successes while ignoring or hiding their INNUMERABLE failures and errors. Such was the casew with McCarthy. The difference between him and Joe Stalin is that most of McCarthy's victims were not shot or imprisoned in camps (though their were some wrongful imprisonments). And we have some Constitutional protections--thoug h DAMAGED by McCarthyism---whic h prevented the Inquisitor McCarthy from creating a murderous totalitarian nightmare in America.
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Skii that is true Americans voted for George W. Bush, he is greatest example of the anti-intellectualism in politics. Its clear that Americans in general don't like smart intellectual people especially when they happen to be people of color like Obama. Its obvious that white conservatives have had enough of this slick talking socialist. Huckabee claimed Mr. Obama is " sharp enough to talk a dog out of a meat truck ". Racist white conservatives don't like these uppity negros, their unconscious biases only manifest themselves in the form of anti-intellectualism.

This is precisely why black people shouldn't confuse themselves and view black conservatism as being identical to white conservatism. Looking closer you realize anti-intellectualism is actually the overt chauvinism of the blissfully ignorant. McCain's appeal to anti-intellectualism via Joe The Plumber propaganda, ended up causing more embarassment than actual gains during his campaign. Recruiting a dingbat like Sarah Palin was genius, because her anti-rationalism and pure emotional bigotry, would appeal to working class whites who reside in the red states.

Anti-intellectualism is an American problem in general, however black people must not pretend like we have no desire for ideological/cultural homogeniety. This type of anti-intellectual populism keeps white racism alive, denying there is such sentiments amongst blacks is the literal equivalent of saying you never heard of Gucci Mane and Waka Flocka. These attitudes prevent racial equality in society, because they undermine African American merit, a black embrace of anti-intellectualism is essentially collaboration with the enemy.

-Humbleguy

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Note by Me: BET is never, ever equivalent to the KKK, but I get this guy's other points.

By Timothy


I just spent the week in New Orleans, the powerbase for one of the most talented, powerful and destructive forces in the history of music: Lil Wayne. I’ve admittedly bopped my head to the tunes of Lil Wayne in the past, feeling the same guilt that any man might feel if he were to enjoy a crack pipe or shot of heroine, knowing how these drugs destroy families, individuals and communities. In other words, I consider myself to be a Hip-Hop insider, and I simply hate the idea of being labeled as a hater. But as a father and Black man who has seen too much death and devastation in my family and so many others, I had to say that “enough is enough,” leading me to candidly discuss my decision to walk away from certain styles of Hip-Hop music.

BET, the media company that targets Black consumers, but is ultimately controlled by a predominantly white organization called Viacom, is not exactly on the same page when it comes to their assessment of Lil Wayne or any other artist (i.e. R. Kelly) who can be directly linked to the holocaust occurring within Black America today. Given that models of profit maximization rarely call for any assessment of the negative externalities that result from unethical corporate behavior, the executive committee for the BET Awards made the interesting decision to give the greatest number of award nominations to Lil Wayne, the man who said that he would (among other things) love to turn a woman out, murder her and send her dead body back to her boyfriend. Oh yea, he also said that he would kill little babies, have sex with every girl in the world, carry a gun on his hip and “leave a ni**a’s brains on the street.”

It might be almost feasible to overlook the “kill little babies comment” were it not for the innocent three-year old boy who was shot in the head by a 21-year old Black male in my hometown just a couple of weeks ago – these atrocities are all too common in quite a few neighborhoods across America. Also, the music might be considered simple entertainment were it not for the fact that millions of Black youth who had their history stolen during slavery actually look to Hip-Hop music to tell them how to dress, talk, think, act and live. There is no high school speaker more popular than a Hip-Hop star.

The Ku Klux Klan has been regularly criticized for encouraging violence against African Americans and terrorizing our community. But the truth is that the Klan doesn’t have much power anymore, and their thirst for African American blood seems to have waned a bit. At the same time, Lil Wayne and artists like him have made a habit of encouraging Black men to shoot one another, to abuse or murder women, to consume suicidal amounts of drugs and alcohol and to engage in irresponsible, deadly sexual behavior.

As a result, Black men are the most likely to die of gun violence, mass incarceration continues to decimate Black families, drug addiction and possession ruins Black lives in droves, and HIV is the leading killer of Black women. So, the truth is that Lil Wayne-like artists and the corporate armies producing this weaponized genocide have killed more Black people than the KKK ever could. So, by accelerating, financing and supporting the “Lil Wayne gospel” to a community that is already dying, BET has effectively positioned itself as a new and improved version of the KKK.

It’s one thing if BET reports on the activities of Lil Wayne or even has him as a guest on their network; we all know that celebrities increase ratings, and as a Business School Professor, I understand the need to pay the bills. But by publicly rewarding his behavior, they are encouraging every record company executive and Lil Wayne wannabe to go to the lab and manufacture more musical poison. As a result, there is some 10-year old boy putting down his textbook to watch the BET Awards, and effectively attending the Lil Wayne School of Black Male behavior. Years later, when this boy shoots another Black man in the face, infects one of his many “hoes” with HIV, ends up in a prison cell, dies from a drug overdose or beats his girlfriend to death, we will be able to link his behavior directly to his formative years, when we cashed in this child’s future for higher shareholder returns at Viacom.

Perhaps a day will come when those of us who know destructive music when we hear it – will actually have the discipline to draw lines and seek accountability – rather than look the other way. It’s not as if you can argue that Lil Wayne is actually GOOD for Black America, and it’s small-minded to justify a man’s reckless behavior just because he’s wealthy.

Charles Manson is considered one of the most vicious killers in history, yet he never actually murdered a soul. He has been in prison for 40 years because he convinced others to commit murder, controlling their minds through comfortable words and charisma. If Manson had been given the platform supplied by BET and the rest of corporate America and a license to share his rhetoric without restraint, he could have caused the deaths of millions more. So, by publicly rewarding and applauding the words of Lil Wayne, BET is giving his beloved message a level of power and penetration that is fit for a king – most interesting is that Wayne’s endorsement of killing women and children is far more vicious than anything Manson ever said.

So, the next time we turn to the KKK, Tea Partiers or the Republicans as the greatest enemies of Black people, we might want to take a look in the mirror. By cheering for those who recite lyrics that encourage us to kill our babies, we are effectively sleeping with and protecting the enemy.

-Humble Guy
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IwillbfreeModerator2 hours ago
This is what I'm talking about! The hell with wearing your pants below your a___!!! We need to instill this program all over the u___d snakes, so our young boys can become MEN!

CHURCHES IT'S YOUR TURN, INSTEAD OF ALL THIS SINGING, DANCING AND SHOUTING BULL____, LET'S PUT SOME PRIDE IN OUR STRIDE! OUR CHILDREN ARE WAITING
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Co-opting activists has worked well since '60s but can't buy all

I've been an observer of activists being co-opted since the 1960s. It works well to peel off some of the leaders, but enough people didn't rationalize and get co-opted so the various movements kept on: civil rights in South, women's movement, teachers' union start in early 1960s in NYC, antiwar movement (also had Dem pols scared in the 1960s as the antipoverty program died in the War on vietnam), and disability rights movements and the movement to stop police brutality. The warning is perfect, Glen Ford.
Also, Paul Street has a good breakdown of the 1% and $ with footnotes, new article, on Znet: www.zcommunications.org/znet
Update: HuffPo sub-headline top of home page, Sat. 10/15, 5pm is How Obama will use Occupy Wall Street Against Republicans in 2012. The Occupy Wall Street folks will not be used.
And I'm happy to say that Disabled in Action (The url is)* .disabledinaction.org is going as a group to join the Occupation event in Manhattan tomorrow. I'm too ill to go, but there in spirit.
*I did not get to the site with www.disabledinaction.org from here but was able to via google, typing in Disabled in Action.

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Interested11342 wrote:

And the dems founded the kkk, so? What about now? If you believe that the democratic party is better for you, you're lost.
The Democratic Party did not found the KKK. The KKK was founded by former officer in the Confederate army. Probably the founder was a member of the southern branch of the KKK. But the Democratic Party, like the Republicans, was divided into into right wing, centrist and left leaning elements.
The KKK members would belonged to the right wing, segregationist wing of the Democrats. However, you also found (and still find) KKK among right wing Republicans. And this especially so after the Civil Rights movement triumphed under liberal Democrat administraions of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. Not surprising, LBJ stated that with the passing of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the South would probably be lost to the Republican Party. It was, especially with the "southern strategy" of Richard NIxon (and later Reagan) of appealing to white racist resentments to win over formerly Democratic white voters. Dixicrats became Republicans. Some started moving in that direction with Republican rightist Barry Goldwater, an stauch foe of the Civil Rights Act..
The fact of the matter is that the RIGHT, both Democrat and Republican, have been opponents of civil rights and racial equality.
But there used to be moderates and liberal left in BOTH parites.
There still are right, center and left among Democrats. Republican Party has been hijacked by the Right. And the most deepseated, stubborn and adamant forms of racism have nearly always come from the Right.
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Sam its true white people pay good money to see n_____ act like this. This is exactly why the worst kinds of hiphop sell the most records. Black people continue to look pass this ignorance because of the millions of dollars being made from it. But the sole reason we avoid speaking out against someone who is making tons of cash, is because it only results in accusations of being jealous of the wealthy- meaning the argument is rendered futile automatically. The old Jewish white guys that control mainstream rap music, determine what the records are going to sound like, and if the record isn't radio friendly ( Dumbed Down ), its not going to get any promotion.

The profits are too large to be concerned with, how this degrading representation makes black people look. In a materialistic society like ours objective measures are held in higher esteem than subjective measures, this is why we can look pass ignorant shit. But if white people didn't consume so much of this ignorance, don't you think rappers would have to stop dumbing down lyrics and start emulating the intelligent wordplay of rappers who have intellectual prowess like Andre 3000, Jay Electronica, Common and Lupe Fiasco.

These intellectual rappers don't necessarily give white americans confirmation about black intellectual inferiority, so their creative artistry suppposedly isn't a true representation of black people in racist white peoples eyes. Whats even worse is that black fans of commercial rap music even believe socially conscious rappers are square and uppity and their complex lyrics alienate the black people who identify with the anti-intellectual redneck culture of machismo called "The streets" . This black redneck culture has been commodified via mainstream rap music, thus the black inferiority complex has been commercialized in this racist society.

Unconscious racism is prevalent, and white americas unconscious racism is exactly what killed hip hop culture, and black peoples own internalized racism only adds fuel to the fire. Mainstream rappers use their wits only to brag about how many hoes they have, these men use their intellectual prowess for self dramatization, hell even use their vocabularies to downplay educational attainment. A genius way to put ones intellect to use allegedly.Icon_eek

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BLACKstarPAYNEModerator23 hours agoin reply to RACISTIwbfreeASmitty
"You can't be that much educated when you get everything you say from books "

Are you kidding me? Reading is the cornerstone of education. And as far as i can tell, most of us that graduated from high school, and went on colleges and other places of higher learning were taught out of BOOKS written by mostly WHITE people. So i would say that most people that grow up in the USA have been very well schooled on ALL of the GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS of white people. Which makes us more than aware of what anglo-saxons are able to do.

It is because you have filled all of your books with open racism and white supremecy that many SELF AWARE black people choose to REJECT you as decent people. Many of us simply do not find you to be agreeable to exist with us in peace. YOUR HISTORY in YOUR BOOKS, has taught us this. So this may be why many self aware black people choose not to discus OUR issues with white people.




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Interested11342 wrote:

And the dems founded the kkk, so? What about now? If you believe that the democratic party is better for you, you're lost.
At some point, at least some of those Democratic KKK members became Republicans. While there were undeniably Republicans who
took part in the Civil Rights movement or aided it, there were also Democrats who did so. By the same token, there have been both Democrats and Republicans who have worked to hinder it. The GOP's record of 2011 has been about cozying up to the corporate class at everyone else's expense, and that overshadows the good they did in the past. I love the way people harp on the honorable past of the GOP and the dishonorable one of the Democratic Party, while apparently ignoring the fact that their roles have been reversed. By that logic, blacks may as well not be part of the American system, since the system once tolerated slavery. Apparently, people who harp on the past believe there is no possibility of change, which causes them to ignore what the GOP has become.

As a black woman, I see nothing in the GOP of today that would induce me to vote for them. While they decry welfare for the poor, they have no problem with corporate welfare. There are Democrats who think the same way, AKA Blue Dogs, but the party as a whole is much more inclusive. They are far from perfect but they are indeed the "lesser of two evils." If we ever do again vote Republican, Herman Cain is not someone who would induce us to do so. He is a success as a businessman, but politically, he is as dumb as a box of rocks with all the crazy things coming out of his mouth. Furthermore, he seems indifferent to things that are about progress, including the very Civil Rights movement that has been instrumental in the success of him and other African-Americans.
He is affiliated with the empathy-and-ethics-challenged Koch brothers, which is another big mark against him.


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whowantz2knoModerator1 day agoin reply to Scapegoat4URLife
"There are plenty of people with the mindset just like yours saying that whites are trying to emulate black folks"

Wait, I have the extra chromosome, yet I JUST told you that I don't think whites are trying to emulate blacks? I just smashed that comment of yours and explained exactly where my mindset is at, but you chose to ignore that in order to make your failed point? Ahhhhh gotcha! You're one of THOSE types!

How am I just as a nazi or KKK member when I am not at all interested in exterminating any others? See YOUR brethren can't just leave blacks alone, they MUST interfere, kill, rape, maim and murder instead of just falling back. That is not my mindset. As for my being a 'hypocrite sinner', again, you are wrong, (like most whites!). I don't go around blasting people's actions or words then turn right around and do just as they are doing. When you can PROVE to me that I've done that, as a grown woman, I shall concede and consider myself corrected. But I can tell you son, you will not ever find me back peddling or stammering in my POV. Anyone on this site that really knows me can tell you when I'm set, that's it, I'm done.

And being is that I do not practice any faith or religion, I don't play into the 'sinner' thing. That would mean I have to go back over everything I've ever done that was 'wrong' according to someone else's standards, and apologize or repent for it. "Not I", says this black p____y cat. Whatever I've done, trust me I wanted to, loved it, would do it again, and never apologize for it.

My theory of white genetics isn't absurd at all. Get cha pen and paper out homie, school is in since you wanna go there! Whites are WEAKER genetically than blacks. You wrinkle faster, you can't absorb the sun like we can, your skin is thinner, y'all age like a m_____ too mayne! I mean a woman of color can be 5'6 at 175lbs and be all a___, hips, thighs and breasts, but let one of YOUR women go beyond 100lbs and she looks like a STOP sign about the body. Where did Multiple Sclerosis form? In WHITE genes, where did bone density deterioration find it's first and MOST cases? In WHITE genes. Do you see my pattern here? Deterioration is prevalent in white folks. Not to mention the FACT that you all can only produce WHITE people which goes to show that your genes are on one track and can't reach past a certain point of productivity for yourselves. But ohhhhh black folks can produce EVERYONE, always have and always will. There is a reason why WE are the original man and woman on the planet, and we are STILL HERE. That's genes baby, white folks just can't do that.

I'm sorry if you find my post offensive for speaking on the NATURE of your people. And far be it from me to hunt, search and dig to find the 'good ones' out of all of you. A friend of mine used a great analogy in regards to white folks.....If you have 10 mice in your home and you know there are 10 of them. But you only ever see 8 mice. Do you try to save those 2 that you never see OR do you just get rid of all 10? White folks have been and are COLLECTIVELY devious ass people and one or two 'good ones' doesn't make a difference to me. Furthermore, white people are NEVER objective when it comes to blacks. If you all see ONE young black male with his pants saggin and he had a gun, then guess what? EVERY other black male you see with baggy jeans on gets harassed regardless. As for your comment about whites annihilating blacks IF they felt like this dude does.....NIZ! Whites would never get rid of all blacks because you get too much from us! You have learned from us, we are responsible for OVER 3/4 of the very inventions you use right today from washing your asses properly to flipping on a light switch in your home, to having a stop light on your city streets. I wouldn't get rid of people I have been using forcefully for decades that I have now talked into WILLINGLY working for me. I said whites are weak, not dumb. Why should they get rid of the very people that have always taken very good care of them....

Once again, I am black so therefore I have no POWER to be racist nor practice racism. Racism is a SYSTEM in place that operates the ideology of white supremacy. And I also have no intention of making YOU or any other white person take me seriously. Frankly, you don't have to. I don't need your allegiance, acceptance, open arms, embracing, approval nor understanding in this world in order for MY life to operate smoothly as it does.....Again, go tell that to some shufflin negro who cares.....
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soultry-soulModerator1 day agoin reply to Scapegoat4URLife
I would like to share with that my company has a Race & Social Justice Initative and every department has been required to watch as a department & discuss a three part video series... "Racism: The Power of an Illusion".

In this video there are numerous world reknown scientist that places their reputation on the line with substantial evidence that Blacks are genetically superior than that of other races on so many levels - especially physical, and DNA.

One thing I got out of this: Yt folks do not like to discuss racism, they do not want to be confronted with any thing other races view as racism. A lot of yt folks believe there is no racism, and that other races are being too sensitive regarding whatever the situation is at hand.

I suggest that you locate the video series - I'm not typing any lies to you - all truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN1VR9dj90c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ICM3qhzrIc&feature=related


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whowantz2knoModerator17 hours agoin reply to soultry-soul
If he can close his eyes and not be able to tell the difference between a white supremacist and CONSCIOUS black person, then he knows not what he speaks of Soultry.

I dare him to show us just 3 cases of where mobs of blacks have LYNCHED any whites and threw a d___ party to celebrate it! I mean brought out their kids and family like it was a d___ Sunday at the park! That is what cave supremacists do, not us!

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Mark says:
Yes. Read Donald Dewey’s excellent 1996 biography where it says:
NBC producer Hal Kanter was shocked when Stewart insisted on firing black actor Hal Williams from The Jimmy Stewart Show. Kanter recalled, “One day somebody comes running into my office and says you better get down and see Jimmy, he is absolutely furious. I go down to his dressing room, and he’s really hot. The problem was he had just found out that we were casting Hal Williams and he related that to a script for a show in which there was a cop lashing into the professor character. ‘Blacks are bossing white people all over the country,’ he says to me angrily, ‘and now we’re going to have the same damn thing on prime time television? A black is going to be lecturing me with millions of people watching? No way. I get casting approval and Williams is out.’ I couldn’t believe it. Aside from everything else, he’d screwed up the shows, because Williams had been hired to play an FBI agent on another episode. But his anger about the thing was frightening. He acted chagrined when I told him about the mix up he’d made, but both of us knew that he’d let one cat out of the bag that he would have preferred not to. He didn’t have an easy relationship with blacks even as fictional characters.” Others had seen the cat at least in the bag for some time. Director John Ford had picked on Stewart’s Achilles heel during the filming of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Readers of interviews over the years may have been struck by everything from his descriptions of the antics of “dusky” housekeepers before World War II, to his complaints during the 1960s and 1970s that motion pictures had fallen under the influence of special interest audiences, among them “teenagers and colored people.” Beverly Hills friend Leonard Gershe recalled, “I don’t think there’s any question that Jimmy was uncomfortable with black people. But I wouldn’t lay it all on Indiana, either. This is Beverly Hills, USA. It is possible to go to dinner parties for years and, except for maybe Gregory Peck’s home, never run into a black person, even the rich ones like Sidney Poitier and Quincy Jones. When you consider that Jimmy has spent almost his entire life in either Indiana or Beverly Hills, and is of a certain generation, you’re not talking about someone who figures to be particularly sensitive to race. Like a lot of people with his kind of mentality, any kind of militancy, like the civil rights demonstrations in the 1960s, made him very uneasy, were just another threat to the way he was used to living, like admitting women to Princeton.”
Stewart’s problems with black people are also described in the more recent biographies by Michael Munn and Marc Eliot.


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whowantz2knoModerator1 day agoin reply to Adonis
I couldn't respond to you up top.....about your 'becky psyche' thing....

There is no 'becky' in my psyche. As I stated before, I'm too well planted in my mindset to ever be bothered by what some of you black males do. I have a friend, black guy, been cool with him for almost 9 years now and he only dates and married a white woman.

But who does he call when she puts him out the house? Who does he call when she wont let him see his son? Who does he call when she hacks into his emails and text messages because she's insecure, over weight and doesn't trust her token black stallion husband? ME...I'm the BLACK woman he calls every time, with every nuance and COMPLAINT about his coveted "Becky". So no sir, a black guy with a white chick doesn't bother me at all because I know too many black guys who catch HELL when dealing with them. I don't know collectively which race of women is the better or 'best' one, but I sure in hell know it's not the white one.....

Now you have a goodurn.... :)


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the black community has beaten racism to the point where they can start and we all of us can start attacking economic inequality. we must redistribute the wealth. and today with people like lil wayne and jay -z at the fore front of black culture we stand no chance. they perpetuate the abundance of oppulence and materialism that keeps us subservient to the capitalist fat cats. VIVA CUBA LIBRE. VIVA LA REVOLUCION























Brother Kwame Ture is a hero who uplifted African people in the world.
Brother Kwame Ture inspired us and he wasn't scared to die for our struggles in this earth.
Brother Kwame Ture was full of heart and he brought a change in our lives and African people, shouldn't forget this great king, leader, soilder, father, scholar and hero of our culture, our history and our families.
You are my hero and soilder in our struggles, Brother Kwame Ture, 1941-98.





Thursday, October 20, 2011

Human rights and Political News

being granted civil rights by goverment, is not freedom.. you people need to get a grip on reality and realize some things.. slaves are granted rights from their governors.. civil rights are rights the goverment decides its citizens will have.. you people need to stand up for your human rights.. if youre going to submit to the rule of goverment, stop calling yourselves free -longfootbuddy 4 days ago




Civil rights granted by the government is related to freedom since for centuries private institutions enacted corrupt avenues to suppress the God-given rights of blacks and others. So, the people (making up the government) had no choice, but to add new laws to make freedom more avaliable for all citizens. Making new laws to help human beings via Congress is constitutional.

TruthSeeker24 1 second ago






Freedom is granted in an unalienable fashion, but that isn't an excuse to withhold public services to help the poor or anyone suffering in society. 

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The government is of and by the people. The government granting people legal protections isn't immoral. It's immoral if the government violates human rights or acts in corruption. That is why we use policies to make government protect our and our safety net, while trying our best to prevent the government from acting totalitarian. If the government is by and for the people, it should be eliminated of corporate infiltration.

TruthSeeker24 1 minute ago

http://www.scribd.com/doc/27519123/27485346-Organization-of-Afro-American-Unity-Malcolm-X-and-the-OAAU-Aims-and-Objectives-Mp3s-Included



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soultry-soulModerator7 hours ago
This is one day I've never celebrated (Momma did not allow it). Who takes pride/joy in celebrating witches and demons.

I strongly believe this year is going to be an extremely pleasant one for yt folks - they've been very expressive about being racist.

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JustdroppedIN wrote:
216 AKA Tha Realist!
Nothing but Love 4Ya!
hats good sister JDI, i'm glad to see you post, i hadn't viewed yours in awhile, but i'm on another beautiful site that embodies and shows REALITY, so i probably have missed some of your posts....

But thanks for the mention and add to this thread, sisters need to know that in the REAL world there are plenty of brothers old and young coming up that adore and cherish black women from dark to caramel, and thats just REALITY....i don't know wtf topix and this pitiful forum is on, but it ain't reality!

I'll see you!

-216 Elite

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reality.chek
November 10th, 2011
8:11 pm
To add: it’s so easy for white women/black males to scream @ black women “get over it, each his own, stop hatin’ etc., when black women voice their opposition to the genocide that’s being perpetrated on black, attractive actresses in TV and movies. I can’t remember when I’ve seen a beautiful black woman cast as the love interest for the black actor. Instead, the tv is bombarded by intense love sessions between black males/white women, as if black women don’t even exist!. When show credits are flashed, no surprise to me that white females are the ones doing the casting (pairing white women with black males) and that this pair are the main ones singing “kumbaya”, all is well, deal with it. They finally get to live out their Mandingo/slave fantasies onscreen, all the while training young little black boys watching this scenario to aspire do the same.

training little black boys to do the same in real life…. SHUN THE BLACK WOMAN, WORSHIP THE WHITE WOMAN… the power of the media!


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TheHardTruths wrote:

C/S 100%. I believe you may be only the second person on here to understand completely where I'm coming from....And what you just posted is the sad reality blacks face. But there's a silver lining in this dark cloud. In the end, good ALWAYS overcomes evil, no matter how dismal things may seem. And VICTORY is what the NON SLAVE has to look forward to.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. It is a sad reality BUT knowing that the UNIVERSE (AND MY GOD) is in charge, that's what keeps me my head up and keeps me "hopeful" (hate that word since the last presidential (s)election).

Every corrupt nation eventually self-destructs from within and this system will be no different. In fact, "they" know this, that the clock is running out on their reign of terror, and that's why they are stepping UP THE GAME,

trying to re-colonize nations of color, attacking and demonizing blacks in america in movies, news, using these negro entertainer/advocates to corrupt our children, promoting homosexuality among BM, instigating cold wars between BM and BW by pushing us into each other in the schoolyard and getting us to fight each other because we don't understand what we are dealing with...and that we are still being victimized by the same system that enslaved us...500 years ago...

"they" know that ONCE the BM and BW UNITE, the mind games and control over us will END...because we will get our sanity back (is black unity just a pipe dream?)

Of course, it's unwise to underestimate our adversaries. They are extremely clever, bloodthirsty, and merciless...no respect for life, or the planet..as witnessed by the BP oil spills...

i'd like to recommend a book, Trojan Horse: Death of a Dark Nation
I would leave the link, but I don't know if they would let that go thru, but you can find it on Amazon

-crammasters

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TQRAK6D6A037FEG5L/p29

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soultry-soulModerator8 hours agoin reply to whowantz2kno
some of THEE most racist whites are the ones sleeping with blacks....

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Control and dominance...supremacy!
Twisted minded bastirds...
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WeElectedABunchOfIdiots wrote:

The OWS protestors have no direction, no leadership, not real purpose... they just want to complain about their lives...
take a shower, get a job and contribute to society...
If the news outlets weren't so desperate for a story, they would be no story.
Maybe they should dig up Anna Nicole and she how she's doing...
It would be a far more interesting story.
Have you BEEN to any of their gathering? Is there literature by the movement that you've read? If not, how do you know they have no direction or only want to "complain."? And how do you know that their complaints aren't legitimate?
As for how "interesting" a story the Occupy movement is, it has apparently aroused the support of people throughout the nation and the WORLD. People throughout Europe, parts of Asia, Africa and Latin America are inspired by (often emulatiing) our Occupy Wall Street Movement. So much so that even the original protestors, who didn't expect it to last this long, are astounded by its wide appeal and apparent longevity.
The fact that YOU are not interested is not evidence that the movement is uninteresting.
-Savant
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moonrose4meModerator14 hours ago
@3whiteman3

Your really portraying yourself as the typical white racist most minorities already know and hate. Stop being so naive and look around. Blacks and other minorities have to work 2x harder to achieve what a average white person would have bcuz white society automatically assumes who we are the first time they see us. Thugs, H___, criminals, ghetto, welfare collecting, lazy etc/ Therefore we have to work HARDER to disprove those assumptions.

Whites will not and can not understand this, so they just deny it exists.

Whites can be very very predictable. There were polls done in the 1940's to the 1950's asking white people if they thought blacks were treated unfairly guess what they said......NO
Now remember this is before the Civil Rights movement, there was many things blacks and other minorities weren't allowed to do or go. Now, fast-forward to 2011 whites still believe blacks are treated fairly..oh..and now they believe whites are the ones receiving the worst treatment (the reverse racism bullshyt)

Sometimes I don't know if white people are blind or just insane.
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AngilixModerator10 minutes agoin reply to Scapegoat4URLife
You can work as hard a dog and die of a heart attack tomorrow. That's bad fortune right? You can work hard as a dog and be successful. That by the same token is good fortune. Belafonte has seen blacks like Cain his whole life. He recognizes him. They hid in safety while others fought, and now they're reaping the benefits, the rights, the opportunities, the privileges, but they are without honor, because they refuse to give credit where credit is due. Instead they credit it all to their hard work.
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MDHOTCOFFEEModerator23 hours ago
My roots?
what in the world does a black man dressing in drag have to do with being african american.
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freelancepimpModerator23 hours ago
Make no bones about it, white folks are very much aware of white privilege.
Shoutout13Moderator23 hours agoin reply to MDHOTCOFFEE
Exactly what I have a problem with as well as racist infiltrators on this site who try to force this issue of modern post "formal" slavery emasculating of black men by putting them in a dress or hinting that they should to be be in a dress. This should not be treated as if it's acceptable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

As for the attempt to discourage by using the term being "proper"........

For generations we were intentionally artificially not allowed access to educational resources or allowed to even speak or act in a dignified manner because it "offended" racists who were trying to maintain their false advantage.

It's not how articulate and intelligent a brotha or sistah is, it's how the brotha or sistah expresses their intellectual abilities. Do you know where you came from? What your people are going through and continue to struggle with? (You hear that Herman Cain?) Are you passing on insight and information to your brothaz or sistahs?

As an articulate brotha, I have had the problem of people jumping to conclusions until they actually notice not only how I say something but what I say and what I actually do.
I don't blame brothaz and sistahs because I have been frustrated and often disgusted with the fact that many articulate, intelligent often "bougie" brothaz and sistahs end up letting secretly resentful racists flatter and "detour" their ambition, talents and knowledge for their own advantage at the expense of our people.

It is frustrating because I know this doesn't have to be "the way things are". Like so many things in society (and as racist infiltrators prove in their provocative, meddling, intentionally discouraging posts) this is the way things have been artificially "made to be".

In the meantime, Fox recruits articulate brothaz to Trojan horse attack the black community as a racist surrogate while brothaz like myself get stalked, censored and verbally attacked by racists and offline by racists as well as brothaz and sistahs that don't realize what I stand for but are often intercepted by racists who intentionally feed them misinformation.

The practice is more widespread than most people realize.

For as much as we have been mocked and given little recourse in the past (my own mother and father for as intelligent as she is and he was before passing away, as recently as their generation, literally were not allowed into the "public library" because of the laws of the time) it is unfair to paint being "proper" i.e. usually articulate and intelligent as a "problem" when it is applied specifically to black men and women. Why should we have to be an exception when it comes to potentially positive social and intellectual attributes?

This reminds me of the recent article that tried to hint that blacks who dressed well looked "white".

http://newsone.com/nation/news...

Obviously a backhanded compliment which is of course a disguised insult.

In addition I consider that there is no "substitute' for a real black woman but I see so many brothaz falling for the lie whether it is NewsOne's encouraged interracial articles or population limiting same sex practices that would allow racists to flourish at our expense.

Have we been attacked by racist mindgames for so long that we are now desensitized to artificially playing them on each other in order to forward someone else's agenda?
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ASKARIModerator3 hours agoin reply to Shoutout13
Shoutout13 - You and many other intelligent, progressive brothas and sistas are why I joined this site...To read and exchange our ideas on current day affairs..

Thank you and everyone on this site who share the vision of bringing clarity and insight to the events shaping our lives....

Let's not get discouraged nor respond to the infiltrators who attempt to get us to waste energy or intellect responding to their ignorance or hate.
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Shabaka TecumsehModerator10 hours agoin reply to Noba Q
lol Noba tell me, if not for the white man, would Tyler Perry still be hustling videos out of the back of his car? Hint: he made the majority of his money AFTER he went "mainstream" in the movie theaters. Does he have a "pre approved" contract with the white studios? Meaning they have to approve what he puts on the screen. I know a lot of "brothas" who worked out of the back of their cars, but they didn't get very far because they had nothing to sell to the white man for his twenty pieces of silver. A white culture will always buy a black man in drag or a fat black clown or a process head. As for his "community" business..he sold his wears to what I believe are people lost in supersition and ignorance. I don't think that's anything to be really proud of..

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big mike M wrote:
On top of that, couldn't the Africans just use guerrilla warfare?
Absolutely Big Mike. I've spent a considerable amount of time thinking about how the West Africans could have won. Okay, let me say this. In addition to the Musket taking forever to reload, when you fired it, the Musket produced a bunch of smoke. What does this mean?

It means each time you fire you give away your position! The Europeans didn't invent smokeless gun powder until decades after they first arrived in Africa. This means a skilled African bowman, or group of them, could have sent a barrage of arrows right into the area where smoke was being emitted, and they would have killed a bunch of White soldiers each time. In contrast, a bow is almost completely silent and releases no smoke, meaning your position is not compromised. It is almost like being a sniper.

Oh, one more thing. African warriors like Samori Ture, Bai Bureh, and Shaka Zulu won battles against Whites. The reason these guys lost the war is because they were often betrayed by their own people(Blacks have a long history of stabbing each other in the back, just look at Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson), so in many cases the Africans would side with the Europeans against other Africans. If guys like Bai Bureh, Samori Ture, Shaka Zulu, and Menelik II had all teamed up, forming a unified continental front, the Europeans could have been pulverized and forced back to Europe. Had the Africans combined this with capturing and reverse engineering European technology, there is no telling what Africa would look like today!

-Kashta Bureh (I don't agree with him on every issue, but he's right on this issue)
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SimplyComplex_87Moderator4 hours ago
so now my "roots" include being a miserable, broken, abused, lost woman who is waiting on a man to swoop in and save me? oh, and having a looney loudmouth for a grandmother?

how insulting that Al Sharpton would place all AAs in such a shameful box like that...
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pantherg08Moderator20 hours ago
What the h___ is regular black folk? I dont like his movies and shows because they are poorly written, acted and is just plain coonery and childish to me. I tried watching his shows, they just suck!

I guess my proper a___  will just stick to Spike Lee movies..

http://www.scribd.com/doc/64749174/Debates-and-Discussions

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KodyakModerator16 hours ago
I agree he should be honored. He's shown that black movies can be big box office. But his movies are slapstick, one dimensional and embarrassing. Just because he gives black actors jobs, that's supposed to excuse the blatant mammy and minstrel stereotypes Perry supports and portrays in his movies? And Sharpton attacking Perry's critics is like saying black people shouldn't be allowed to disagree with each other or have our own separate opinions. Not every black person identifies with the characters in these movies. I didn't grow up rich but I certainly didn't come from some of the backward acting folks in Perry's movies either. Don't try to lump us all together.
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MrAnderson9 wrote:
I'm sorry black women, but your attitudes have taken it's toll on your worth in terms of relationship material, and even casual sex material.
The Modern day black woman is such a washout that even black lesbians have made it clear that they too prefer non black women. Wanda sikes for example, and many others.
It's sad to see the value of black women be at an all time low like it is now, black women aren't even being featured in movies anymore, and aren't even leading the charts in R&B and Soul music.
Back in the 70's/ 80's, and even early 90's black women were thought of as exotic, strong, and loyal. Now that's how men feel more so about white women.
Most of these black women have the mentality of racist wm, and they may be fun for them on the internet and bashing places, but at the end of the day, it's everyone's choice what they let into their actual lives, and nobody wants these black women around.
Black women are 70% single and rising, and the least chosen for IR. Even immigrant women are chosen in higher numbers than these women are.
All the new commercials and sitcoms don't have black women, but have bm and non black women. The music industry too.
Black women are officially the least desired women by all groups of men.
I can answer in many ways and here’s one. Black women collectively don’t have bad attitudes, they just keep it real. I rather deal with a person that’s honest and keep it real than a plastic, Barbie looking person that only wants me for sex or money. The reality is regardless of your lies, most BW are with BM and vice versa. There are issues in the black community, but the black community still exists very strong in numerous arenas. The value of black women is always high. Racists and white supremacists may view black women low, but a real black man will view black women’s value as very high (since without a black woman, I wouldn’t be here). Black women have the most reliable and decent group of people I have been around. Also, even Wanda Sykes would disagree with your views on black women too. Black women are in tons of movies and what does Hollywood have to do with black value? Nothing. Many black women are leading the charts today like Beyonce, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, etc. Now, what does this have to do with the worth and value of black women? The answer is not a single thing. Most black men love black women more than white women. For you to place white women as some stable of beauty and power is embracing a slave mentality. I will research to see if your 70 percent stat is accurate since I don’t believe you. Even if that stat is real, does this have to do with the value of black women? Nothing, since the value of black women is still strong since all people are equal with dignity.Why are you using IR for some arguments for? The fact is that the highest divorce rates among blacks who go IR are BM and WW. It’s a fact that many IR relationships (not all) consume of self hatred, lust after non-black flesh, low self esteem, and ulterior motives (look at Tiger, Toomer, Tiki, OJ Simpson, and others to see the files). In those relations, the non-black spouse viewed the black person as having low value or a financial coup. Many commercials and sitcoms show black women like Jada Pinkett Smith, Queen Latifah, Monique, of course Jennifer Hudson, and tons of other sisters. Black women are the least desired women of racists. Black women are the most desired among black men and other real men who view black sisters as not inferior to vanilla. Also, black women have been the most strongest supporter of black men (during the Maafa, slavery, Jim Crow, the civil rights movement, the post-modern world, fights against police brutality, fights against stereotypes, and the battle now for Black Unity) not white women, Asian women, Latina women, or any other woman. It’s a disgrace for a man to stereotype women of their own people to get some social kick. Black women are always Queens, they are true original women, and they are forever beautiful.
-By Timothy
 
 
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MrAnderson9 wrote:

Little Timmy's doing exactly what i want him to do. It's good to show the contrast between Good BM vs Good BW.
Notice how none of the BW challenge the BS from bad bw like you...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T3SIAQL9R6QLM...
Thus proving my point even further about BW.
If you want to believe in offensive stereotypes about BW, why do you care. You obviously have an obsession with hating women of your ethnicity. Also, immoral people exist in non-black people. There are non-black people that lust after wealth and are golddigers as well. You don't mention this and you don't mention the problems in other communities. No one said that all black people are perfect. No one is perfect. People are just saying that you are in error to believe that no black women are in Hollywood, TV, commericals, no black women have the capacity to have an intellectual stimulating conversation, or black women lack doing anything of value.

This good vs. bad thing is a distraction. The real issue is about making solutions, building a better community, and having true black unity based on interaction not assimilation (including love without malice). If a man doesn't have love for women that gave him birth, then that man is a disgrace. I do what I want to do without being down with an anti-woman men's movement. You can believe and follow that anti-BW all male "brotherhood."

I decline the invitation to join that women hating "brotherhood." I rather be a sucker for love for justice than a sucker for death of my people.

I wear the label proudly.
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Umm you are incorrect when you say that Africans sold their own people into slavery. That is a Eurocentric cover up. When the Europeans entered Africa, they purposely started wars between different groups as a way of getting slaves. So when these Africans sold other Africans, they weren't selling what they considered to be their own people, rather they were selling captives from war or people from other groups. Just because they were black doesn't mean they considered themselves one people.